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jitbeng
post Apr 22 2010, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(b48753 @ Apr 22 2010, 10:50 AM)
Yup..conform 1080p,only the 42" is 720p
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post Apr 22 2010, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(moon* @ Apr 22 2010, 11:43 AM)
ehm..

was at equine jusco home depot.

spotted a THP42S10K model there.. but selling at rm3,999 sweat.gif
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No 10% discount? Somebody better grab it.

Little bird told me there will not be a replacement model for the FullHD TH-P42S10K, in fact for the whole S series for 2010.

The only FullHD 42" model for 2010 will be the P42V20K with enhanced features (NeoPDP panel, etc) & will cost about RM5K & will be out end of next month.

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post Apr 22 2010, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(cyanide @ Apr 22 2010, 02:18 PM)
panasonics always make ppl very confuse one.

X28 lah
i see someone put as X20 also got. is it same or different compare to X28?

later come A28 or maybe C28? Like lasttime the X10 - A10 - C10 - X18
any different?
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Click below & scroll to almost the last page & the cloud will clear.

http://www.pmpressroom.com/products/press%...eng%20final.pdf

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post Apr 23 2010, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(michaeltan1943 @ Apr 23 2010, 06:50 AM)
Of course have to worry. Most consumers make informed decisions and after that, they are stuck with the product whether it has flaws or not for a long time.

The product is bought with hard earned money and not given free, so people expect their product to conform to the initial description of the sales person and the initial inspection before purchase.

If you knew a particular car being sold often blew up or exploded, you would be scared to buy it, whether it happens or not.

As you say, "Might or might not happen".

It would be unfair to the consumer. To make matters worse, most people are not informed consumers, ie they are not techy and read reviews. Few months down the road, they get disappointed.


Added on April 23, 2010, 6:52 am
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The decision to buy or not is ultimately left to the consumer. After researching, observing, hearing, learning from others mistake etc etc he/she makes a informed decision to buy.

So if it happens, then report to the Consumer Tribunal, all the relevant gov departments, sue the fellow, even report to the police if applicable. I will do that if it happens to me & I have done it in the past a couple of times.

So if it does not happens, then sit back & enjoy lah"

It is the Consumer decision as I write in para 1. No one is force to buy. It is the Consumer who makes the FINAL decision & whether that decision is a good one or not, he/she is the one who makes the FINAL decision.

If you knew a particular car being sold often blew up or exploded, you would be scared to buy it, whether it happens or not.


Off course not. Like the girl will not cross the bridge knowing the dangers.

By the way bro, I think you may have contradicted yourself. In the first para you said "most consumers make informed decisions" & in the last para you said "most people are not informed consumers".

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post Apr 24 2010, 12:41 AM

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[quote=michaeltan1943,Apr 23 2010, 11:14 AM]
[quote=jitbeng,Apr 23 2010, 10:38 AM]
The decision to buy or not is ultimately left to the consumer. After researching, observing, hearing, learning from others mistake etc etc he/she makes a informed decision to buy.
By the way bro, I think you may have contradicted yourself. In the first para you said "most consumers make informed decisions" & in the last para you said "most people are not informed consumers".

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Most consumers do not have the privilege of talking in forums, thus, not informed. That is not contradicting.

So, when the average consumer hears from the sales man everything he needs to know and is happy with it, what to do few months down the road, the black becomes grey?

How can the aveage consumer "see the future"?
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I said "may have contradicted" not "have contradicted".

Anyway now I think you have contradicted yourself.

Who can "see the future" bro.

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post Apr 24 2010, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(Serpentarius @ Apr 23 2010, 01:36 PM)
Hello everybody!
I'm new to the Plasma TV. I've been using CRT TV up till now. Had LCD monitors for computer. I would like to get a Plasma TV for my parents.
I've been reading on Panasonic models and had been interested on P42S10, but sadly, i come to know it's discontinued. Then came P42S28K

Where do i start from? What do i need to know?
Could you guys kindly give some advice?

Thanks in advance smile.gif
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There is no P42S28K for 2010. For that matter there is no S models for 2010.

If you are looking for a HD Ready model, take a look at the A & X series.

If you are looking for a FullHD model, take a look at the V series. The V series have a 42" FullHD.

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post Apr 24 2010, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(michaeltan1943 @ Apr 24 2010, 07:09 AM)
Huh? How did I contradict myself? Cannot understand your feeble explanation.

Or shall we, as you say, cross the bridge when we reach it?
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Bro I think your power of comprehension is a bit weak.

In this discussion, cross the bridge means:-
you have crossed it & finds that TV is turning Grey.

So what you do. Find a solution. This is what I said in my Post No:349 below:-

I think what "reddevil04" meant was why worry over a thing that might or might not happen. Only when it does happened then cross the bridge to find the [B]solution.
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What's the solution? What I said in Post No: 357 below:-

{The decision to buy or not is ultimately left to the consumer. After researching, observing, hearing, learning from others mistake etc etc he/she makes a informed decision to buy.



So if it happens, then report to the Consumer Tribunal, all the relevant gov departments, sue the fellow, even report to the police if applicable. I will do that if it happens to me & I have done it in the past a couple of times.

So if it does not happens, then sit back & enjoy lah"

It is the Consumer decision as I write in para 1. No one is force to buy. It is the Consumer who makes the FINAL decision & whether that decision is a good one or not, he/she is the one who makes the FINAL decision.}

(My interpretation of "informed decision" in the above para in red is "the consumer is informed by researching, observing, hearing, learning from others mistake etc etc")


So "So it happens" in bold in one of the above para means the TV turned Grey.

Bro want to continue this kind of discussion until the cows come home? smile.gif

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post Apr 24 2010, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(b48753 @ Apr 24 2010, 02:04 PM)
Does you means all 600Hz sub-field Plasma TV support 1080p HD?
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The 2009 42S10K is 550Hz sub-field yet it support 1080p.

Check here:- http://www.panasonic.com.my/web/pid/7916/Spec

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post Apr 24 2010, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(michaeltan1943 @ Apr 24 2010, 09:42 PM)
My comprehension is not weak, it is just that I cannot comprehend your bad grammar and spelling. Eg.

you have crossed it & finds that TV is turning Grey

Only when it does happened then cross the bridge to find the [b]solution

makes a informed decision to buy

So if it does not happens, then sit back & enjoy lah

No one is force to buy.
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Now your comprehension is confirmed weak. And I guess you are an English teacher, no?

"you have crossed it & finds that TV is turning Grey"

The above is not meant to be a proper sentence. If it was meant to be a proper sentence I would have properly framed it. So are the others.

I also do not want to repeat again & again.

I was referring to my previous post where if you have to cross the bridge (makes an informed decision & it turns out to be a bad decision). That is you expect the TV black level to be sustainable but after a short period it turns grey.

Looks like you like this kind of discussion to carry on & on until the cows never come home. By all means bro. I have all the time in the world. Everyday is a holiday for me. As long as we keep to within the boundary of not offending each others character.

Anyway it's a good mental exercise for me.

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post Apr 25 2010, 06:14 PM

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OK michaeltan1943. Peace to you also.

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post Apr 25 2010, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(alex@milan @ Apr 25 2010, 07:02 PM)
got my 42" panny yesterday! din expect it to look so big in my living room! hehe smile.gif very happy about it. can't test much about it yet coz i dun have astro installed yet, no blueray player and no gaming console like xbox or ps3... so far juz connect it to my laptop, so far so good and it looks great smile.gif

however one thing that i find a little disappointed to be honest is the warranty part... on the fifth page of the manual... it writes "Do not display a still picture for a long time"... "This causes the image to remain on the plasma screen ("image retention"). "This is NOT considered a malfunction and is NOT covered by the warranty".... this is so disappointing to me... i mean so many have claimed that plasma technology have improved over the years and have resolve the IR/burn-in issue, if so how come panny is reluctant or afraid to provide such warranty?

appart from the warranty disappointment i am very happy and satisfied with the tv that i bought biggrin.gif


Added on April 25, 2010, 7:15 pmby the way, anyone can share wat is the best configuration/settings for P42X28K? Brightness, contrast, Sharpness, color etc...? thanks
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I am glad to hear you are very happy with your TV. Hope you will enjoy it to the fullest.

I am using the P42S10K bought in Dec 2009. What I did was to set the brightness & contrast settings to 50 with eco mode off & watch whatever with these settings for the first 200 hours.

Exceeded 1000 hours already. So far no IR/Burn-In problem whatsoever. And also no deterioration in black level whatsoever. Black is as black as it can be. After watching for the day, will "wash" the screen for 30 mins (timer set) & to auto shut off.

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post Apr 25 2010, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 25 2010, 10:23 PM)
jitbeng,

I'm happy to hear that ur black levels are not elevating. Maybe the Asian non neo-PDPs are not effected. However, how do u determine that? Are u using any reference tools? Or based on some pictures that u snapped or just by eye?
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By eye. Off & on I will freeze the picture & compare the black colour of the picture on the screen with the black frame of the TV. With normal room lighting & dimmed lighting condition I see no difference before & after the 1000 hours. I do not watch in a completely dark environment as it is not practical for me.

After everything is said & done, the bottom line for me is that I am completely 110% satisfied with the performance of my TV.

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post Apr 26 2010, 01:36 PM

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# Hold down the {VOL -} button ON THE PLASMA TV itself. Not Remote
# Press the {RECALL} button on the remote control 5 times.
# The Service Menu will be displayed.

# Use the {2} buttons to select "SRV-TOOL"
and press the {OK} button to access it.

# HIGHLIGHT the box on the right side of the last option: (Navigate by using the arrow buttons on the remote)
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PTCT :00.00.00.00.00 HIGHLIGHT HERE

# Then press and hold the {MUTE} button on the remote for 3 seconds.

TIME = Hours and Minutes of Operation.
COUNT = Times the Plasma was Powered On.

# To exit, press & hold the {POWER} button on the TV for few seconds.


The above for going into the service menu & checking the hour usage. Please be very careful when you go into the service menu.


What I do for "washing" is to press the TV button on the remote. Since I am using Astro, the outside TV aerial is not connected. So if you press the TV button on the remote, there will be no input signal to the TV. The screen will show a snowy picture. Set the Timer (max 90mins).

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QUOTE(reddevil04 @ Apr 26 2010, 10:39 AM)
Hi jitbeng,

My 42X28K settings for HDMI (Astro Byond) and AVI (DVD player) is contrast 48, brightness 50, colour 48 with eco mode always at Off position. I notice that if I set eco mode to ON position, the picture is brighter and richer in bright surroundings, in this case usually daytime. But at night, if the eco mode is turned on, the picture is dimmer. But when the eco mode is turned Off, the picture is similar to the ON mode at daytime.

So, I've decided to permanently set the eco mode to OFF position and have the settings for contrast at 48, colour at 50 and brightness at 50, PNR min. Already done approx. 50 + hours.

Appreciate your opinion on the above settings.
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Your settings looks good.

My settings now in Normal mode is, Contrast=Either 70 or 80, Brighness=40(-10), Colour=39, Colour Balance=Cool, Colour Management=Off, Sharpness=80 & PNR=min.
In Setup/Other Settings:- Intelligent Frame Creation=Off & Power Save=On

In the Picture Menu, Normal mode is for watching Astro (non-B'yond). 50% of the time

Cinema mode for watching DVD/BR. 5%

Game mode for Xbox 360. 10%

Dynamic mode for PC (Net surfing). 30%

Dynamic mode for PC (download movies/tv shows). 5%

All the modes above will have their own individual settings.

This is what I read in one review " Eco mode which adjusts the average picture level for max energy efficiency (surprising, it makes the image brighter rather darker)".

Yah! a bit strange the eco setting mode! My interpretation is there is a sensor near the on/off button. When eco mode is on it senses the surrounding lightning conditions in the daytime to be bright & therefore increases the brightness to compensates for it. So it is the reverse in the night.

So turn it off. The brightness will be the same for day & night. In my opinion it is better because you are in control.

Try to vary your viewing content.

I watch Astro, DVD/BR, downloaded movie/tv shows, play Xbox & surfing the Net. Practically all my AV is centered on the TV.

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QUOTE(moon* @ Apr 26 2010, 01:54 PM)
ohhh... so tats washing.. the snowy screen sweat.gif

BTW.. i m ok with getting into the service mode. BUT exiting is the problem. after viewing the hours count.

u mention press & hold the power button on the TV??? i hold awhile also cannot off.. so wat i do is jst press the power button on the tv let it off den on back again. wil this dmg it?? sweat.gif

also if i m doing it wrong, please correct me, tq smile.gif
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It should be OK. I just did it myself to check.

The TV will turn off. Just turn it back on.

So far my hours usage:- 1,202:30

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QUOTE(kayly @ Apr 28 2010, 03:53 PM)
hey jitbeng,

many thanks for the guidance on how to check up the hour of viewing on our plasma....as for me, after 100days of ownership my plasma p42s10k, it showed that my time viewing it was 822 hours and 30 minutes with count 330 times...considering i got this plasma more than 3 months ago which around 100 days, it means i power on my plasma around 8 hours per day with 3 time on it each day...i thought watch it more than that since i'm working from home...

up till now, i'm still enjoying my plasma as it delivered superb PQ and the speaker is decent enough to produce good sound as well...there's no problem at all on my unit....truly satisfied...
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Good for you & enjoy it to the fullest. Don't look back.

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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Apr 29 2010, 02:29 AM)
If you don't mind, what is the price of the 50U20K and P42X28K?
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Remembered I wrote to Panasonic appealing to bring in the replacement model for P42S10K in my previous post no. 265.

Well I got a reply from them. But I have promised them not to post it here because they don't allowed it & it's against their company policy.

There will not be a replacement model for the P42S10K for Asia unlike in USA where the P42S1 was replaced by the P42S2 & best of all, the S2 is cheaper.

Therefore for 2010 the only FullHD 42" Plasma TV will be the V20K with advanced features like the NeoPDP panel etc. Price around RM5K?

The P50U20K is the replacement for the P50S10K & should be around the same price.

Look like Panasonic is not replacing all the models & the replacements is also not cheaper. Maybe Panasonic is preparing the consumers for the 3D model which is expensive now for some consumers if not most of them. Have to wait a couple of years for price to drop.

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QUOTE(cyanide @ Apr 29 2010, 09:23 AM)
jitbeng
what's the secret inside the reply? smile.gif
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special price maybe?

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QUOTE(moon* @ Apr 29 2010, 09:35 AM)
hi all; anyone can answer my question?? sweat.gif

jitbeng? anyone?? is there a way to change the black top / bottom bar to another color when watching movie??
reading somewhere its best to change it to brighter colors.
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I don't think can change.

Better zoom in to avoid IR/BurnIn during breaking period.

But since I already Break-In (about 1,300hrs), no problem for me. Off & on use the Zoom. But when zoom the PQ will degrade slightly.

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