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yok70
post Sep 13 2010, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 13 2010, 11:22 AM)
Incorrect.
BI won't decrease the cash, there is still same 15mil cash in the bank.

You only can issue BI when you have sufficient shareholder fund, aka retained profit or from share premium account. (share premium account arised from when you IPO time, let say your IPO price is Rm1.50, but you par value is Rm1, so you have RM0.50 registered into share premium account)

Company NTA = Company shareholder fund = Paid up capital + share premium account + retained profit.

So when you issued BI time, you deduct the retained profit or transfer the retain profit part become paid up capital only.

X = Market cap.
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Thanks Cherroy! notworthy.gif

Please allow me for further exploration on this.

1. So BI's expenses derive from retained profit, the same case as when offering cash dividend?

2. When BI time, the company need to pay for per par value(1.00 in my example) or market value(1.50 in my example)?

3. In Balance Sheet, the retained profit does not sit under Cash column?

4. When a company IPO, is it possible that not all shares were purchased by investors? If that happened, what will happened to the rest of the shares?


Thank you!

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post Sep 13 2010, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 13 2010, 02:15 PM)
Please allow me for further exploration on this.
1. So BI's expenses derive from retained profit, the same case as when offering cash dividend?
2. When BI time, the company need to pay for per par value(1.00 in my example) or market value(1.50 in my example)?
3. In Balance Sheet, the retained profit does not sit under Cash column?
4. When a company IPO, is it possible that not all shares were purchased by investors? If that happened, what will happened to the rest of the shares?
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Since it has nothing to do with reit, I post comment at here. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...620&p=36274512&
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post Sep 14 2010, 02:13 PM

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Newbie.. here..

Looking buying some REITs in Malaysia..

Anyone care to share some good ones to invest for some years..?
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post Sep 14 2010, 07:37 PM

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axis private placement issue price per unit is RM1.97

wah...early2 sudah untung..
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post Sep 14 2010, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(asambuffett @ Sep 14 2010, 07:37 PM)
axis private placement  issue price per unit is RM1.97

wah...early2 sudah untung..
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what that means? mind tell more? thanks! biggrin.gif


Added on September 14, 2010, 9:58 pm
QUOTE(kc26 @ Sep 14 2010, 02:13 PM)
Newbie.. here..

Looking buying some REITs in Malaysia..

Anyone care to share some good ones to invest for some years..?
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Here's a reit website that you can look into their financial reports and properties own through links from there.
http://mreit.reitdata.com/

I like Arreit and Hektar.
I also like Cmmt. But it's new and without any historical numbers to reference, and it's also the lowest yield reit at current price. But I see many people buying it. Maybe they are long for its growth potential.
If you are looking for growth potential, you may look into Axreit too. They grow all the time.

good luck! cool.gif





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post Sep 15 2010, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 14 2010, 09:43 PM)
what that means? mind tell more? thanks!  biggrin.gif


Added on September 14, 2010, 9:58 pm

here's a link,

http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/20100901164755/Article/

btw, the closing price as of 14/9/2010 was RM2.12
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post Sep 15 2010, 03:39 AM

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icon_rolleyes.gif Does anyone here know of the impending or proposed date for dividend of CapitaMalls Malaysia Trust (CMMT) since it's listing in July 2010....thank you all. notworthy.gif


hmm.gif Is the CMMT forecast distribution per unit of 7.16 sen and 7.45 sen for FY10 and FY11? whistling.gif


hmm.gif Could it be around the dates of Al-AQAR KPJ, Bsdreit, Qcapita, Stareit, Twrreit, Uoareit distribution?



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post Sep 15 2010, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Sep 15 2010, 03:39 AM)
icon_rolleyes.gif Does anyone here know of the impending or proposed date for dividend of CapitaMalls Malaysia Trust (CMMT) since it's listing in July 2010....thank you all. notworthy.gif
hmm.gif Is the CMMT forecast distribution per unit of 7.16 sen and 7.45 sen for FY10 and FY11? whistling.gif
hmm.gif Could it be around the dates of Al-AQAR KPJ, Bsdreit, Qcapita, Stareit, Twrreit, Uoareit distribution?
wub.gif Cheers to all. wub.gif
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I don't know what date. Sorry.

I'm here to ask(curious to know), for you, do you mind to buy it with 6.8% yield as for today's price?
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 14 2010, 09:43 PM)
what that means? mind tell more? thanks!  biggrin.gif


Added on September 14, 2010, 9:58 pm

Here's a reit website that you can look into their financial reports and properties own through links from there.
http://mreit.reitdata.com/

I like Arreit and Hektar.
I also like Cmmt. But it's new and without any historical numbers to reference, and it's also the lowest yield reit at current price. But I see many people buying it. Maybe they are long for its growth potential.
If you are looking for growth potential, you may look into Axreit too. They grow all the time.

good luck!  cool.gif
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Thanks. man

Anyone can explain what is DPU?
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post Sep 15 2010, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 15 2010, 01:33 PM)
I don't know what date. Sorry.

I'm here to ask(curious to know), for you, do you mind to buy it with 6.8% yield as for today's price?
hmm.gif
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hmm.gif At 6.8% yield, it's definately the 2nd lowest yield among all Malaysia Reits.......the lowest being Al-Hadharah Reit at around 5.8%. Moreover CMMT is now trading at $1.07.....so definately the yield is going to be much lower than 6.8%......if the price keeps going up, then I am confident it will fall to the bottom of the yield list. doh.gif doh.gif So, in my honest opinion, it's not worthwhile to pick up CMMT shares. whistling.gif


thumbup.gif For me, I still love my StarHill, QCapita, AmFirst & Arreit........& not forgetting AlAqar Reits too. rclxm9.gif



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QUOTE(kc26 @ Sep 15 2010, 01:45 PM)
Thanks. man

Anyone can explain what is DPU?
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dividend per unit.


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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Sep 15 2010, 06:07 PM)
hmm.gif At 6.8% yield, it's definately the 2nd lowest yield among all Malaysia Reits.......the lowest being Al-Hadharah Reit at around 5.8%. Moreover  CMMT is now trading at $1.07.....so definately the yield is going to be much lower than 6.8%......if the price keeps going up, then I am confident it will fall to the bottom of the yield list. doh.gif  doh.gif  So, in my honest opinion, it's not worthwhile to pick up CMMT shares. whistling.gif
thumbup.gif For me, I still love my StarHill, QCapita, AmFirst & Arreit........& not forgetting AlAqar Reits too. rclxm9.gif
wub.gif Cheers to all. wub.gif
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ya. so expensive, hesitate to buy even though got high hope for their management.
however, i think very difficult to drop big in price though. Since for institutions, they need to buy big lots, which other small reits tak ada enough quantity. hmm.gif






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Any one of you here received your Q-Capita divvy with payment date of 30 Aug? I have not received mine... blink.gif
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post Sep 16 2010, 02:48 AM

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QUOTE(protonw @ Sep 15 2010, 11:24 PM)
Any one of you here received your Q-Capita divvy with payment date of 30 Aug?  I have not received mine...  blink.gif
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icon_rolleyes.gif Yes, brother protonw, I had received my QCapita dividend around the first week of September through Public Bank share investment. rclxm9.gif



thumbup.gif BTW, the dividend from QCapital gave me days & days of KFC drumstick. laugh.gif



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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 15 2010, 11:07 PM)


ya. so expensive, hesitate to buy even though got high hope for their management.
however, i think very difficult to drop big in price though. Since for institutions, they need to buy big lots, which other small reits tak ada enough quantity.  hmm.gif
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icon_rolleyes.gif Yes, I will ignore this CMMT for the moment......surely got good management [ just look at the way they managed SINGAPORE CapitaMall, THE 1ST & THE BIGGEST REIT IN SINGAPORE] ] but we Reits holders definately look forward to high yield indeed....for me anything less than 7% yield in not worthwhile. whistling.gif


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QUOTE(protonw @ Sep 15 2010, 10:24 PM)
Any one of you here received your Q-Capita divvy with payment date of 30 Aug?  I have not received mine...  blink.gif
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Received already.


Added on September 16, 2010, 10:44 amFor CMMT, I like it very much.
But 6.8% gross yield, somehow very difficult and little non-attractive, as we need to take the net yield as real yield.
Unless the witholding is scrapped in next month budget, which has been lobbying by reits industry for years (which I don't think have high chance), then 6.8% net yield seems attractive.

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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Sep 15 2010, 06:07 PM)
hmm.gif At 6.8% yield, it's definately the 2nd lowest yield among all Malaysia Reits.......the lowest being Al-Hadharah Reit at around 5.8%.
Bsdreit 5.8%...i thought its about 6.9% before tax. did i count it wrongly?.. cry.gif

(Div 2009 9.3 cents)
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 16 2010, 10:41 AM)
Received already.


Added on September 16, 2010, 10:44 amFor CMMT, I like it very much.
But 6.8% gross yield, somehow very difficult and little non-attractive, as we need to take the net yield as real yield.
Unless the witholding is scrapped in next month budget, which has been lobbying by reits industry for years (which I don't think have high chance), then 6.8% net yield seems attractive.
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IMHO, I think another plus for stocks like CMMT/SUNREIT would be its comparatively higher trade volume because of their size. Means that if one want a more liquid REIT don't mind sacrificing the net yield, these are the ones to go for.
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QUOTE(whizzer @ Sep 16 2010, 11:23 AM)
IMHO, I think another plus for stocks like CMMT/SUNREIT would be its comparatively higher trade volume because of their size. Means that if one want a more liquid REIT don't mind sacrificing the net yield, these are the ones to go for.
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Stareit also is another one has high liqudiity, a forgotten reit recently.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 16 2010, 11:27 AM)
Stareit also is another one has high liqudiity, a forgotten reit recently.
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mind to ask the development of Stareit ?
has everything (RPT) completed ?
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QUOTE(smartly @ Sep 16 2010, 11:29 AM)
mind to ask the development of Stareit ?
has everything (RPT) completed ?
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Sale of Lot 10 and Starhill already completed.
Now we are waiting for new properties injection, which should be not later in this few months time.



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