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post Apr 29 2010, 02:26 AM

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thumbup.gif SOME VERY GOOD COMMENTS & GOOD REPLIES TOO TO THIS TOPIC...THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. rclxms.gif



icon_rolleyes.gif AM NEW TO REITS & THOUGHT THAT I NEED SOME MORE INFORMATION & CLARIFICATION ON Stareit BEFORE I DIVE IN......LATEST INFORMATION IS THAT IT IS SELLING IT'S 2 MOST VALUABLE PROPERTIES [ Starhill Gallery & Lot 10 ] TO A SINGAPORE REIT FOR MORE THAN A BILLION RINGGIT & LATER INJECTING SOME HOTELS INTO Stareit AS WELL. rclxub.gif NOW, IS THERE SOME UNCERTAINTIES & RISK INVOLVE IN THIS.....FRANKLY I FEEL THAT HOTELS DOES NOT MAKE AS MUCH MONEY THAN Starhill Gallery & Lot 10. cry.gif


notworthy.gif JUST THIS....IS IT WORTH TO BUY STAREIT NOW OR JUST IGNORE IT?


icon_rolleyes.gif I SEE THAT A NUMBER OF MEMBERS RECOMMEND AmFirst & Axis........WHAT ABOUT QCAPITA, TWREIT, BSDREIT & AREIT......ARE THESE 4 REITS SHARES WORTH TO PICK UP AS WELL....COMMENTS ARE WELCOME PLEASE...APPRECIATE IT. notworthy.gif
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post Apr 29 2010, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 29 2010, 03:54 PM)
Please refrain using capital letter, kind of annoying to others, and capital letter in forum means shouting at others.  smile.gif

You need to look at the structure of reit itself in term of hotelier business.
Reit might not and generally not involve in hotel business. They just own the hotel as properties which being rent out to the hotel management company.

Uncertainty about Stareit, which and yield of properties is not totally known. There are a few name like Japan Ski Resort which has signed some MoU for the acquisition.
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rclxms.gif Thank you brother cherroy for your comments...greatly appreciate it. notworthy.gif Didn't know that using CAPITAL letters means shouting at others....didn't have any intention of doing this.....my apologies to all. icon_rolleyes.gif


biggrin.gif If STAREIT buys the hotel property & later rent it out then that's a positive note otherwise running a hotel business is a bit risky as there is always an element of loss & no profits.


sweat.gif My only worry now is that they may rent out the hotel property cheaply. whistling.gif


cheers.gif Cheers brother cherroy...you have a great day too. rclxm9.gif
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post Jun 2 2010, 07:59 PM

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thumbup.gif thumbup.gif Some REIT news worth reading......take a look please.....




whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif Starhill REIT Unitholders Approve Disposal Of Starhill Gallery and Lot 10 Shopping Centre
Starhill REIT unitholders yesterday approved the disposal of Starhill Gallery and Lot 10 shopping centre in Kuala Lumpur for RM1.03b.The disposal of the two properties to Ara Bintang is part of a rationalisation exercise to reposition Starhill REIT as a hospitality REIT, the first of its kind in Malaysia. The sales exercise, is to be completed by 3Q10, will be satisfied by both RM625m cash and Singapore dollar denominated convertible preference units in Starhill Global REIT worth RM405m.



rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif Sunway REIT To Sell 1.65b Units In IPO
Sunway Real Estate Investment Trust (Sunway REIT) plans to sell 1.65b units in its initial public offering at an indicative offer price of RM1.00, according to a draft prospectus released Wednesday. The IPO will be the largest so far this year in Malaysia and will make Sunway REIT the country’s biggest REIT with an estimated market capitalization of RM2.6b, well ahead of the current leader Starhill REIT, which has a market value around RM1b. 1.52b units will be sold to Malaysian and foreign institutional investors at an indicative offer price of RM1.00, with the final price to be determined after a bookbuilding exercise. The remaining 134m units will be offered to retail investors at RM0.97, or 97% of the final institutional price, whichever is lower. Bookbuilding is targeted to start June 10, while the retail offering is expected to open June 15. The final pricing will be determined on June 24. Sunway REIT is then expected to make its Bursa Malaysia debut on July 8.



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post Jun 10 2010, 08:28 PM

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Sunway Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT)


rclxub.gif Fund size of 2.78 billion units.



whistling.gif Based on the Sunway REIT’s net asset value per unit (NAV/unit) of 97 sen upon listing, its price over NAV (P/NAV) was estimated to be at about 1x (based on the assumed IPO price of RM1/unit for the institutional offering).



cry.gif cry.gif The REITs’ dividend yield was only expected at about 6.7% (based on forecast dividend per unit (DPU) of 6.7 sen), which was below the average 8.5% for other REITs........YES, A MISERABLE 6.7% DIVIDEND WHICH IS VERY MUCH LOWER THAN THE PRESENT LISTED REITS......IN FACT, IT'S THE LOWEST. shocking.gif shocking.gif


brows.gif I think I will skip this Sunway REIT & concentrated on the other Malaysian listed REITS. icon_rolleyes.gif thumbup.gif














monkeyking
post Jun 11 2010, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 11 2010, 05:33 PM)
In reit, we expect some yield for 7-8% which is 2x FD rate can offer, with any capital appreciation side is a bonus, and not something take for granted.
If FD is offering 7-8%, I/we might dump reit as well.

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thumbup.gif thumbup.gif Well said brother cherroy, yes REITS is a long term investment......not a get rich fast scheme. biggrin.gif


rclxm9.gif I only wish that FD is about 10% & then it's goodbye to REITS......but I guess we have to wait a very, very long time before we come to that figure. doh.gif



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post Jun 12 2010, 05:35 PM

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tongue.gif CapitaMalls Asia is offering MR$1.10 per share to institutions.


whistling.gif whistling.gif A source said that the cornerstone size was purposely made smaller than that in the Sunway REIT IPO to give good liquidity in the after market. At M$1.10 per share, the 2011 dividend yield is estimated at 6.8%. The REIT contains three malls valued at M$2.13bn – Gurney Plaza, Sungei Wang Plaza and The Mines.


icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif 2011 dividend yield which is estimated at 6.8%, is it a good buy.....comments please. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif



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post Jun 12 2010, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 12 2010, 09:54 PM)
6.8%?

There are more than 10 more REITs counter listed in KLSE that gives >6.8% yield. I'll pass...

Xuzen
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rclxub.gif rclxub.gif 6.8%? doh.gif doh.gif ......too low to take note off tongue.gif .......will follow too rclxms.gif ...just skip this offer and concentrate on the present REITS that are already listed. thumbup.gif
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post Jun 22 2010, 01:37 PM

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icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif Something for all to digest.



thumbup.gif thumbup.gif AmFIRST To Build Up Assets rclxm9.gif



thumbup.gif thumbup.gif AmFIRST Real Estate Investment Trust (AmFIRST REIT), Malaysia’s second biggest property trust by assets, is out to increase its asset size of more than RM1b and expects a deal to be done in the current financial year. Its performance will also be driven by the expansion of major tenant AmBank Group and progressive upgrading of existing buildings to attract new tenants. Am ARA REIT’s Manager said in an interview with Business Times that for every asset they acquire, they will look at its returns or yield and potential capital appreciation. He also added that they are actively looking at property acquisitions in Malaysia via its private real estate funds, which in turn will serve as a pipeline of properties to boost AmFIRST REIT’s investment portfolio. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif



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post Jun 24 2010, 06:31 PM

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whistling.gif whistling.gif SunREIT would be the largest initial public offering (IPO) to date for 2010, with about RM1.65 billion expected to be raised from the flotation exercise. It would also be the largest and most liquid REIT listed on Bursa Securities.

However, industry observers said SunREIT was expected to face heated competition with another REIT — CapitaMalls Malaysia Trust (CMMT) — that had recently received regulatory approval to float its three mature Malaysian assets on Bursa Securities. The REIT is expected to list on July 16 2010. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

SunREIT had more and better assets compared to CMMT. SunREIT’s jewel in the crown, the Sunway Pyramid Shopping Mall, would enjoy higher rental pricing power, given that it was the prime shopping mall in the Sunway/Subang Jaya area.

Sunway Pyramid’s average monthly rental per square foot had increased to RM8.99 for the eight months ended Feb 28, 2010 from RM7.93 for the year ended June 30, 2007. Sunway Pyramid also boasts an average occupancy rate of 99.3%.

In contrast, CMMT’s jewel in the crown, Sungei Wang Plaza in Kuala Lumpur, was 62.8%-owned by CapitalMalls Asia Ltd (CMA) and thus, it would be more challenging for CMA to dictate rental pricing.

thumbup.gif thumbup.gif However, CMMT should not be underestimated as it had a strong parent in CMA, which is one of Asia’s largest mall owners and managers, with more than 70 malls in Singapore, China, India, Japan and Malaysia. CapitaMalls Asia may have only three properties injected into its Malaysian REIT currently. But given its track record and aggressiveness in acquiring and running retail malls across Asia, it is possible that more properties would be injected into the REIT in the future.

Up to 1.35 billion units would be listed, while a total of 786.52 million units would be offered for sale under the IPO.

CMA would retain a 41.7% stake in CMMT, but there is an over-allotment option of up to 15% of the total units amounting to 117.98 million units, which would mean CMA could retain only a 33% stake in CMMT.



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post Jun 28 2010, 11:08 AM

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icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif Does anyone here knows when the next Starhill REIT dividend payment is due?



whistling.gif whistling.gif Could it be around early August 2010? drool.gif drool.gif


icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif BTW, any new developments at Starhill REIT ......any news appreciated. notworthy.gif



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post Jul 5 2010, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(whizzer @ Jul 5 2010, 06:10 PM)
QCAPITA @ 1.00 !
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hmm.gif hmm.gif Something very wrong or fishy with this price. icon_rolleyes.gif


thumbup.gif QCapita buildings are all rented out ......yes 100% fully occupied.


whistling.gif Now one will wonder how this price is justified......see enclosed picture please.


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post Jul 5 2010, 07:14 PM

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thumbup.gif thumbup.gif And just take a good look at the tenants...yes, all QCapita buildings are 100% rented out. rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif


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post Jul 11 2010, 05:35 AM

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hmm.gif Just some queries........since STAREIT had sold off it's 2 most valuable properties that had given STAREIT good rental income, I wonder if there's any MORE dividend TO BE DECLARED for the coming months. hmm.gif


whistling.gif How is STAREIT going to pay the shareholders the next dividend with these 2 properties gone? Yes, STAREIT is going to have the NEWLY ACQUIRED Japan Resort in it's property portfolio but is there rental coming from this Japan property? rclxub.gif No new news from the STARREIT board yet....wonder why too? hmm.gif


icon_rolleyes.gif Just my worry! icon_question.gif




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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 11 2010, 11:42 AM)
They have until Sept to finalise the rationalisation proposal. (if not mistaken the time frame).

The properties disposal will only finalised after 3Q, so for the financial result until 1 half 2010, DPU should be around 3.x cents as well, identical to previous H.

THe injection of properties is not completed, Japan resort is the first one, and should be follow several new properties. Those properties should be replacing the income of Lot10 and Starhill. The acquired properties should be contributing to the reit income as soon as after the injection, as those properties are operating currently one.

But in between the gap of disposal and new properties injection, expect some period without much income for the reit.

From my personal view, the manager is slow to inform reit holders about the situation, especially the new target properties injection (which is primary info reit holders need to know), but market roughly guess several already.
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wub.gif Thank you brother cherroy for your quick reply......really appreciate it. rclxms.gif Yes, that means to say there will be no dividend for the 2nd half of 2010. ohmy.gif That is to say we the share holders will be not getting anything until 2011. moneyflies.gif moneyflies.gif But actually since STAREIT had make some monetary gains from it's sale to Starreit Global {Singapore} , why not give the extra gains as a dividend to the Stareit shareholders for the year whistling.gif ending 2010.....if they do, I am sure this will make the shareholders a happier lot. rclxm9.gif


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QUOTE(Neonlight @ Jul 11 2010, 12:16 PM)
From your post cherroy, Is it a good idea to dispose off what ever lots i am holding now to other greener pasture?  hmm.gif
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icon_rolleyes.gif You got a point there brother Neonlight. thumbup.gif As we all STAREITS shareholders are always looking forward to the dividends, we are really disappointed with the management with no announcements whatsoever & no dividend FORTHCOMING. mad.gif .......ONE FINAL WORD ....POOR MANAGEMENT. whistling.gif


icon_rolleyes.gif Maybe in time to come prospective buyers will think twice before picking STAREIT shares.......unless they come out with better dividend for 2011......just my 2 cents worth. icon_question.gif



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post Jul 11 2010, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 11 2010, 12:55 PM)
No, there will still income from JW Marriot, Ritz Charlton, Japan resort, and newer properties injection should be completed before 4Q 2010, I would say expect some drop in dividend as there is gap between the disposal and injection of properties.
As Stahill and Lot 10 compeleted the disposal on June.

The realised capital gain and money proceed from it will be used to acquire/fund the newer properties injection, which has stated in the proposal.

While the disposal involved cash (600+ million) + Starhill Global convertible preference shares (400+ million), which carry 5.65% yield.

So Stareit by holding the convertible preference shares, still getting 5.65% income from it aka  400 mil x 5.65% = 20+ million interest income annual, or 10+ million for the 2nd half of 2010.

So it is not the like total no income.
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notworthy.gif notworthy.gif Million thanks to you again brother cherroy for your valuable reply. rclxms.gif Yes, this is some very good news which I don't get from the STAREIT website........brother cherroy, that means to say the STAREIT will be getting some income from STARHILL GLOBAL to be use later or included into our new next dividend. icon_rolleyes.gif Perhaps for the 1st half 2011, STAREIT will announce a SPECIAL dividend of more than 7 cents to make up for the loss dividend for the short gap of loss dividend. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif


thumbup.gif 20+ million annual income from STARHILL GLOBAL is plenty of money for STAREIT. thumbup.gif .......hopefully STAREIT will let us, the shareholders, benefit too. whistling.gif


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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Jul 12 2010, 07:29 PM)
Dear Cherroy and Moneyking

NO special dividend ... YET

Announcement Type: Entitlements (Notice of Book Closure)
Company Name: STARHILL REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST
Stock Name: STAREIT
Date Announced: 12/07/2010

Announcement Detail:
EX-date: 30/07/2010

Entitlement date: 03/08/2010

Entitlement time: 05:00:00 PM

Entitlement subject: Income Distribution

Entitlement description: Final Income Distribution of 3.1990 sen per unit (of which is taxable in the hands of unitholders) in respect of the financial year ended 30 June 2010
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icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif FULL DETAILS BELOW WITH SNAPSHOT ENCLOSED HEREWITH. icon_rolleyes.gif


whistling.gif whistling.gif Just wish that STAREIT had given us the shareholders a better dividend. icon_idea.gif



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5109 STAREIT STARHILL REITS
Quarterly rpt on consolidated results for the financial period ended 31/3/2010
Quarter: 3rd Quarter
Financial Year End: 30/06/2010
Report Status: Unaudited
Submitted By: HO SAY KENG




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post Jul 15 2010, 04:28 AM

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icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif CapitaMalls asset listing on July 16.........YES, TOMORROW thumbup.gif



whistling.gif Any takers? brows.gif



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icon_rolleyes.gif THE country’s largest pure-play shopping mall real estate investment trust), CapitaMalls Malaysia Trust (CMMT), is expected to be listed on Bursa Malaysia on July 16 with a market capitalisation of RM1.4 billion.

Its initial portfolio includes Gurney Plaza, Sungei Wang Plaza and The Mines.

CMMT will be the designated listed vehicle forCapitaMalls Asia’s retail assets here

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post Jul 17 2010, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 16 2010, 06:26 PM)
I sure hope CMMT can drop to 0.90 like cherroy taiko said.
Quite a long way to go man...guess must be after the stabilizing period.  sweat.gif
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icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif Hopefully too......drop to around $0.90 & then I think there will be more takers. whistling.gif whistling.gif ......included me too. icon_idea.gif rclxm9.gif

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icon_rolleyes.gif If you were to pick a choice of between Stareit & QCapita shares, which do you prefer to invest in. whistling.gif


hmm.gif What would be your preferred choice? Feedback please. notworthy.gif


hmm.gif Just wonder which to pick up more.......got some extra cash to invest in & need your advice please. hmm.gif



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