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Bonescythe
post Feb 13 2011, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 13 2011, 05:13 PM)
Errr... you don't judge a stock or reit or anything just because of its "face price".

You issued more unit/shares, then obviously the share price will be higher and vice versa.

RM1.00 can be way expensive than RM4.00.

Also reit and holding company or property company is different structure and different regulation to start with.
It is different asset class.
There are much more limitation on reit vs ordinary company.
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That is why i put "if"
Yea, i agreed with what you say..
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post Feb 14 2011, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 14 2011, 12:04 AM)
2 cents?

You cannot expect reit to improve its earning like ordinary company.
Rental is fixed, unless there is new acquisition and higher leveraged.

Until the rental revision, income is pretty fixed across.

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Which is good if you are treating it as FD. smile.gif
Actually most REIT are giving returns higher than FDs already.. Most perform more than x2 of FDs..

And of course it comes with some capital appreciation (depreciation) as well smile.gif

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post Feb 15 2011, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(groggy @ Feb 15 2011, 10:53 PM)
Hi Wagnerk,

Thanks for yr analysis. It was very helpful to me.

One more thing, can revaluation surplus from properties be distributed out as dividends???
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Correct me if I am wrong..

Revaluation will boost asset figures and affects EPS.. Revaluation will only affect revenue and increase the $$$ when REIT materialized them by selling the assets at the price being valued.

Dividends is not equivalent to EPS.

Dividends is distribution of a certain amount of profits from a period of operation to shareholders. For REITs case, 90% of the profit will be distributed to shareholder so that REITs will be exempted from taxation.

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post Feb 16 2011, 10:35 PM

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Yea!! I had my bullets already icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

Tomorrow I will surely cash in 1 of the REITs.
Will be between this few
1.) STAREIT
2.) ARREIT
3.) SUNREIT (Top up)
4.) ALAQAR

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post Feb 16 2011, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(masterjedi @ Feb 16 2011, 10:48 PM)
(perhaps.. the AHB  = Amanah hartanah bumiputera can bet this 4 counter dividen)...
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Thanks for suggestion
Will go their website to research.

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post Feb 17 2011, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(ripalo @ Feb 17 2011, 06:14 PM)
This now I went to maybank he say 21 yrs old.

I went to CIMB the guy said 18 yrs old but must have min. 10k.

You guys know what is the actual condition? Seems to me that maybank and CIMB guys don't really know what they are talking.

I only have 1k...plan to buy REITs....just better than put FD la.....

Also, cimb or maybank have less brokerage fee? Coz im buying like 1k only....if brokerage fee too high then no point d right?
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The bank staff reply tell u that they are "noob" lolz.. Put FD.. Hahaha. Why they want to care about what you want to do with your money. Maybe they do not even know how to invest.

When i open with PB Bank, i only need Rm30.. After opening, I got an account, a CDS account, balance RM10 inside.

I think they want to push you higher end, so that they can get commission..? Anyone can confirm this (that there will be commission for new subscriber?)

Cash account does not need any money in it. You do not put in money, you cannot buy anything. That's it...
And if you only have 1k, and want to buy REIT... Yes, It is ALRIGHT!
In a long run, if the REIT really does perform, you will get real good returns in fact.

1k can buy 10lot (1000 shares) at RM0.84/share of STAREIT, with some balance left.
STAREIT yield, worst situation - 5% (Still better than FD), and you get bonus of capital appreciation.

Greatly encouraged to Invest while you are young. Go and pursue it. Try Hong Leong, PB Bank as well.

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post Feb 17 2011, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(ripalo @ Feb 17 2011, 09:41 PM)
Oo...don't need to pay anything?

So wait, if i want to register for itrade or something, can someone tell me the PROPER PROCEDURE so i can teach those noobs?


Added on February 17, 2011, 9:50 pmI know this is the wrong place to put this but I just want one statement here.

I recently go to maybank, cimb bank and also easy bank ask abt fd details and investing details. All of them giving me xxxx answers. The one in easy was the worst. Go there he don't even know FD rates. ==. Some more tell me FD got 3 kinds of interest. Daily, monthly, yearly. Really want to kick his ass. What happened to quality service in the banking industry.

Maybank - lcct
CIMB - nilai putra
Easy - nilai inside 9 avenue.....
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No offense.. But maybe it is because of area you are staying that gives this kind of service.
I still remember how i open my PB Bank trading account.

1st day - Directly walk into a PB Bank branch (Raja Chulan Branch to be precised). Then get a customer service ticket. Once reach, directly tell them "I want to open a share investment account (PB Sharelink Account). She get my IC, ask me to fill up a form, and call up a representative from Public Investment Bank Bhd. After filling up, pay Rm30 for the admin fees. Then inform me that the representative will call me up to meet up and sign agreement/contract.

In the evening (Around 5pm), the representative called me. Booked him tomorrow 12pm to sign agreement.

2nd day - Went to look at the agreement. And sign sign sign. I also don't know what am I signing as well because a lot to sign, and paiseh to read page by page, he needs to wait darn long if I do so. So i requested a copy after I finished signing. Around 15minutes, finished.

On the 3rd or 4th day - Account activated and ready to trade (Wow, very fast. I heard experienced of waiting 1-2 weeks, direct sienz). The account is ready to trade. They will open 1 CDS account and link it to your share account automatically.

Overall, I am quite satisfied with PB Bank experience. Very fast.
Today PB Bank server got problem, I cannot place order. I directly called them (the hotline), and gave orders to them. No extra charges. And quick response. I feel ok with their service, but I do not hope server will ever down.. Sometimes freak us out because each seconds counts.

But back to REITs.. You got 1k cash ready for investment.. I think STAREIT will be good for you as a starting? ARREIT is also a good option. Both also able to get 10 lots within Rm1k.
Be sure that you time your entry.. Some REITs are paying dividend soon, and automatically will be higher..

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QUOTE(MNet @ Feb 17 2011, 11:42 PM)
PB online trading need pay fee to open account?

so lame

jupiteronline no need pay them 1cent open account
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Come on.. It is just Rm10.. and your investment account will have Rm10 balance.. CDS account also need Rm10.. The other Rm10 is admin fee + bla bla bla..
For me, it is good value.. Most important no need to wait so long..
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QUOTE(MNet @ Feb 17 2011, 11:46 PM)
CDS also free no need pay when i open with jupiteronline.

they even come to mamak stall near my work place to take the documment.

save my time/petrol no need go to their office to open acc
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Good smile.gif Good service they got there.
But ripalo in nilai.. Give him jupiter representative number and let him call and see... smile.gif
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post Feb 18 2011, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(ripalo @ Feb 18 2011, 11:20 AM)
Thx for all of your replies. =)

1) Btw, Since you recommended Stareit/Arreit, can give me what price I should go in. I have did some slight research but still....LOL....need opinion of the experienced. Since you plan to invest 1k, therefore these are the counter that can get at least 10 lots (1000 shares) If you have bigger capital, can go for others.. But research them before you enter.

2) Also, do you know which REITs are paying their dividend and when? How to check? Go to goggle, and check their official website. There is a dedicated part for investor relation. From there, choose the "Distribution history" (Most of the REITs will have that) And you analyze their yield

I think I will go back to Penang to settle my banking stuff....worse come to worse I go back Sarawak to do it. =(
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post Feb 19 2011, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(ripalo @ Feb 19 2011, 10:17 AM)
hektar dividend coming out if we can go in by 4th of March if I remember correctly....


Added on February 19, 2011, 10:18 am

Lol....i'm going back to penang to open my account ASAP. hopefully they can get everything done in 3 days since I will only be there for that long. Or not I will have to go to sarawak....
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Hope all the best to you, and hope your experience in opening an account is not too adventurous.
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post Feb 21 2011, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Feb 21 2011, 12:08 AM)
just curious..

what are ur guys opinion on moving money from kwsp/epf into stocks especially REIT since they pay usually quarterly and biannually if got shit
as least they will only pull down that quarter and the next qtr performance only...

since i saw this year epf dividend kinda sad.. would like to push some into more higher return in longer term....

oh yeah another thing is, how the heck i take out from epf to put into stocks ?
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If i am not wrong, EPF money can be used to invest in Mutual Fund... Investing in stock, I cannot assure you that.
If I am not wrong account 2, when reach certain limit, can use the money to invest in Mutual Fund.
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QUOTE(smartly @ Feb 21 2011, 10:47 AM)
only account 1 can be used for unit trust fund and stock as well.
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Oh, account 1 la.. I see..
Thanks for the confirmation.. I myself also cannot remember clearly.
But do u remember what is the minimum limit you must have in Account 1 before you can invest?

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post Feb 21 2011, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(Evening @ Feb 21 2011, 06:00 PM)
Are you sure EPF Account 1 can withdraw for invest in REITS ? REALLY ???
Only Unit Trust i know is allowable.


Added on February 21, 2011, 6:03 pm

I'm wondering here, is REITS also consider as Unit Trust ? or should be treated as one type of Share ? rclxub.gif
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Is not Unit Trust la. Anything listed in KLSE, except those warrants and bla bla bla.. Are shares..
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post Feb 21 2011, 11:38 PM

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For easier understanding, maybe you can read something more practical about REITs, which is read some REITs website.

Example for Sunway REITs.
http://www.sunwayreit.com/

It will inform investor what are their property, who are renting with them, and which company is contributing the most.
There are a lot more of information out there, just that you need to spend time and look out for them.

Some other examples.
http://www.hektarreit.com/
http://www.atriumreit.com.my/
http://www.axis-reit.com.my/
http://www.tower-reit.com.my/
http://www.alaqarkpjreit.com.my/
http://www.starhillreit.com/

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QUOTE(ripalo @ Feb 22 2011, 07:13 AM)
Thx Bonescythe, thats really helpful for newbies like me. I looked thru a few of them few weeks back. I noticed some of them have a distribution list until 2008 or 2009 only. Website not updated? blink.gif
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I think you are talking about Stareit.. Haha.
Yea, they did not update the website. Lousy la them.. Hahaha

Well, as long as their business is running properly, ok lar...
If you are not confident about it, then you can get other options.. So many other option there
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QUOTE(smartly @ Feb 25 2011, 03:24 PM)
consider over. need to buy on 24/2.
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There will be a indicator..
If you are for the dividend, then buy when the counter had a "C" at the end.

If you buy when there is a "X" at the end, means you will not be able to entitle for the dividend already.

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Feb 25 2011, 03:43 PM)
where to see this so called "C" ???
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You at your platform now.

Go and look YTLE (0009)
There is a "C" at the end...
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Feb 25 2011, 03:47 PM)
oh okie okie.. what abt the other symbols mean ? i can't really find a faq on that... using itrade by cimb...
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"X" means expiry date for dividend
"*" means this counter lately got news.. announcement or updates.. Check them by pressing F2, then press 5
"!" means this is problematic counter with cashflow problem..


Pink counter - ACE Market
Purple counter - Suspended for trading

Anymore?
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QUOTE(ripalo @ Feb 25 2011, 05:50 PM)
Wow...great explanation. Ace Market means in very good condition?
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In English League, there are a lot of leagues.

English Premiere League is liken to Main Board in KLSE.
1st Division League is liken to ACE Board in KLSE..

So those pink counter are 1st division player lo.. smile.gif
Most of them are technology markets.. Most la..


Hope my explanation is easy enough to understand?

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