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post Jul 23 2010, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(whizzer @ Jul 23 2010, 05:31 PM)
Next week can Q some more. I think their results only out at month end.
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Qcap is expected to release Q result on 29 July, based on the lastest update.


QUOTE(protonw @ Jul 23 2010, 05:43 PM)
Can anyone remember what is the forecast dividend yield for CMMT and SUNREIT?  notworthy.gif
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Based on IPO price
6.9% -CMMT
7.6%
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post Jul 24 2010, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(whizzer @ Jul 23 2010, 09:22 PM)
This yield confirm one or forecast?  i.e. can it still be better ?
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QUOTE(protonw @ Jul 23 2010, 10:10 PM)
When it is not comfirm, then is estimates lor, can be lower or higher. tongue.gif
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Reit earning projection won't run too far away.

As reit is not running a business, that subjected to a lot of uncertainty which for ordinary company, revenue and profit figure can fluctuate greatly,
Reit just renting out the properties, just like you rent you properties, while normally tenancy agreement or lease is signed on the basic of 1 year, 2years, 3 years or so. So your revenue is highly predicted.
There is little surprise on both the upside and downside unless there is a change of lease agreement, or expiration of it or tenants default it.
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post Jul 24 2010, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(tigana @ Jul 24 2010, 02:46 PM)
So, what is cmmt going to do with the funds they raised? Acquire more property for rental , pay debt, etc?
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The IPO money goes to CapitalMalls Asia Sg, the parent company, whereby they are selling their stake in CMMT to public in the IPO.

The IPO money is not going to CMMT.
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post Jul 24 2010, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(-Teddy- @ Jul 24 2010, 04:48 PM)
Guess I will need to visit the book store then. Thanks anyway  smile.gif
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There are some useful link posted by forumers in the earlier section, check it out.

Understanding about is the most important to do.
There are many online site that is useful as well.
Google it, it won't hard to find.


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post Jul 25 2010, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Jul 24 2010, 10:34 PM)
Maybe a method to manipulate? Like if there is a net loss then there shouldnt be tax because there is no profit.

I'd like to know more as if its possible to bend the rules, i will certainly use my company to invest in REIT
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If there is, then a lot of company will be buying reit, and you will see reit price sky-rocketing. tongue.gif


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post Jul 29 2010, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Jul 29 2010, 01:06 PM)
icon_rolleyes.gif Thought that QCapita will announce it's dividend payout yesterday but till today, no such news yet.......wonder why? whistling.gif
icon_rolleyes.gif Any idea?
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Normally after market closed.
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post Jul 29 2010, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Jul 29 2010, 08:55 PM)
Nothing to shout about though as it was lower then the previous distribution. The previous corresponding period was 3.78 sen. I suspect that the upward movement of the price was due to unloading and profit locking.
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Lower or higher?
This year is 3.85 cents, last year is 3.78 cents.

Ya, actually, nothing to shout about, there won't be any surprise on reit result in general.
None of reit result will spring a major surprise.

3.85 cents is around 95% distribution, not 100%, as actual EPS is 4.04 cents. which is little improvement than last year same period of 3.96 cents.

There is another 5% spare.


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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 29 2010, 10:44 PM)
What is the yield for Qcapita? If the current distribution x2 / the price also 7.x% only leh. So little.
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Around or near to 8%.
As DPU is not 100% of its EPS.

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Jul 29 2010, 11:29 PM)
cherroy,

Lower in terms of past period, and higher in terms of previous corresponding period. With a low yield and very little catalyst of growth, the surge in its price is baseless. That was why I was responding to a member's post regarding the surge in price.
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Errr.. I don't get it.

Last Q, realised EPS is 1.92, Provision for DPU is 1.92
This Q, realised EPS is 2.13, Provision for DPU is 1.93

Last year for same correspondence period of half year,
EPS is 3.96, DPU 3.78.

I can't get the lower figure. Kinda enlight me what I missed. wink.gif
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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Jul 29 2010, 04:07 PM)
please comment if it's worthwhile to keep STAREIT or change to other better performing & better managed REITS.  hmm.gif  I read somewhere that
hotel reits are a bit out of the way compared to REITS that had shopping malls in their portfolio.......yes, that's what's happening to STAREIT.......yes, STAREIT had 2 big shopping malls [earning good rental in busy BB] in it's   
previous portfolio but sold the GOLDEN GOOSE so to say. vmad.gif
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Until Stareit completed the rationalisation become a hospitality reit which there are newer properties that not yet known, it is pre-mature to comment.

The only thing we can say is that current Stareit market price is traded at a discount to its NAV.

NAV around Rm1.2x, reit market price 0.88.
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QUOTE(protonw @ Jul 30 2010, 11:24 AM)
Do you hold stareit?
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Yes.
I just bought few months ago (top up)


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QUOTE(kuluuluk @ Jul 30 2010, 02:27 PM)
Hi Cherroy and protonw, at the price now for REIT which counter  provides the best value with divy?
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In term of yield, Arreit at current price provide higher yield than most, but quality of properties may differ from one to another, so does tenant.
Atrium also provide decent yield, but lack of diversification.

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post Jul 30 2010, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(whizzer @ Jul 30 2010, 04:38 PM)
The small print at the bottom sez "Maybank IB Forecast".
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Better use the historical data as guideline. More accurate, more realistic.

Stareit never give more than 7 cents until so far.
Suddenly predict to give 8.x cents?

I bring out my trolley to shop Stareit if it can give 8.x cents with current price of 0.85-0.87. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 30 2010, 05:59 PM)
Reits going limit up soon liao rclxms.gif

Lets Sai lang
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I will throw every reit in my holding if they limit up and get far far away from them. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Jordy @ Jul 30 2010, 09:29 PM)
cherroy bro,

Lets put it this way. Past period in my language means the period from July - December (Q3 - Q4) smile.gif
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Ok, noted. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Jordy @ Aug 10 2010, 07:44 PM)
zamans98,

What new comments would you expect for AXREIT? From the past, all the research papers I've seen for AXREIT are about the same hmm.gif
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If economy fundamental is not changing drastically, and so does properties market
portfolio properties is maintained and rent out as usual,
no new development on properties injection etc.

Basically nothing change, so I don't expect any much change should be in most research paper.

But you never know some analysts comment nowadays.
1 week can recommend buy, next week recommend sell, with total different TP set.
More like depended on mood.

See how prior today, equities market seem rosy across, and people bullish about market, market seems rock solid, but then today suddenly with bleeding day across, all sort of bearish comment coming out.
Even lot of comment saying 10 years US tresuries now below 3%, bearish for market etc.
But 10 years T-bill already below 3% before or week before.
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QUOTE(Kcee @ Aug 11 2010, 08:31 PM)
1) Can we summarize that as a whole, other REITs too might be reporting lower income due to the OPR hike? Which REITs
have more exposure to the increase in OPR hike?
2)What is the meaning of 'higher provision for doubtful debts'?

Thanks in advance.[/size]
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1. Depended on their loan nature. Some are on fixed rate for 3-4 years, some may not, some may on step up rate etc.
2. Explained by ante5k
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Aug 12 2010, 02:26 PM)
just make sure to cash in when the "lease" expired..

cause the sunway side if im not mistaken its all lease hold properties refering to sunway pyramid
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I reckon the leasehold tenure still quite long, which should beyond our dead date already. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Aug 12 2010, 12:54 PM)
Correction, to get 10%, the market must be falling or crashing... tongue.gif The more bullish the market, the less dividend % you will get as the price moves higher.
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You need market crashing time in order to get this kind of yield.

Just like Axreit was sold at Rm1.00, with >12% yield last time out.

But when this happening, it could mean rental could be under pressure, lease expiring may not able to renew, loan refinancing could be difficult and costly.

So it is always a trade off.
Want higher yield, only with more risk time.
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Aug 12 2010, 04:44 PM)
yeah true.. but then there is a limit abt hw low it can go...

apart from that REIT i dont think can bankrupt.. unlike other normal stocks.. as
its a sort of TRUST FUND...
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For overseas reit, it did.
Some reit under high leveraged one, failed to get refinancing, need to fire-sale their properties at the wrong time, and liquidating.

Yes, if reit is low or no leverage, it won't and shouldn't bankrupt, but no reit can perform well without some sort of leverage especially during good time.
Without some leverage, reit may only can give you 3-4% only. You want this kind of yield?

There is a lot of fear when it reached 1.00.
Even I managed to buy some at 1.00 and queued somemore at 0.99, 0.98 etc, I still expected it may go lower than 0.90.

It is easier when look back, but on real time or with it happening in front on your face, and worldwide is crashing, fear of severe recession, deflation, which corporate may close shop etc. so many negative issue around, your "feel" and sentiment is different.

At that time, even convert some Rm to AUD only Rm2.30-2.40.

It is always easier when look back but not the case when it is happening real time.

Just like Axreit now is RM2.05, should buy or sell?
Me also don't know.

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Aug 13 2010, 06:02 PM)
hw will the uptake be next year.. since they planning to propose this
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The chance is pretty low.
The reit industry has been lobbying this for years now.

It is very hard to Mreit to compete with SgReit, with the difference between tax rate.
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Aug 16 2010, 04:03 PM)
you guys not using the edividend thinggy ?
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e-dividend only will be implemented after Sept.
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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Aug 16 2010, 05:15 PM)
just wana ask, Does REIT company give out shareholder voucher?
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LOL, what voucher do you want?

Buy 1 free 1 for office rental? laugh.gif

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