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post May 20 2010, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(accs_centre @ May 20 2010, 10:59 AM)
His HTiB cant decode DTS-HD via HDMI input so no need to consider your option..
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if HD audio isn't considered and not a gamer, and looking just to play 1080p mkv then by all means, an RM300 media player would suffice. biggrin.gif
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post May 21 2010, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(netherlord @ May 21 2010, 05:11 PM)
Core i5 530 + Gigabyte H55M-UD2H + 2GB RAM + 1.5TB HDD + China ATX Casing + 400W PS + DVD Burner = RM17++

Outputs will be HDMI(Video), Optical(Sound).

Future Upgrade = DD TrueHD / DTS MA Bitstream capable AVR (thru HDMI), Bluray drive for BD playback.

Core spec will be able to handle most of your req there and future upgrade to support DD TrueHD and DTS MA is in place if you wanna upgrade your HT set. Hope this fits your budget  rclxms.gif
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any particular reason in selecting core i5 when core i3 is enough?
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post May 22 2010, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(firestater @ May 22 2010, 01:29 AM)
My final decision (already back to intel) will purchase it within next week

INTEL CORE I3 530 (390) + Asus P7H55-M (300) (using the iGPU) + 2gb x 1 (170)

and the casing should be either one
4-a) E-SuperCase Series Micro-ATX
4-b) Cooler Master Elite 360

future update if needed ATI 5 series (HD audio bit streaming)
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the core i3 paired with h55 is able to do hd audio bitstream. you don't need the ATI 5 series GC.

QUOTE(netherlord @ May 22 2010, 07:07 AM)
Based on your budget, dont you wanna get the best hardware possible?
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nope.
i'm gonna choose the lower end of the core series which could do bitstream (core i3-530) since the extra clockspeed won't improve the decoding performance (if software decoding is used) and won't affect anything if hardware decoding is used.
the lower clockspeed reduces the heat output, thus reducing the fan speed and noise.

the saved budget will be used to get the most important part in (any) HTPC (media library):
STORAGE.
RM300 saved is another 1.5TB of storage. i already have 6 and fully filled 5 of it.


then again, my requirement might not be the same as everyone. smile.gif
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post May 26 2010, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(firestater @ May 26 2010, 06:14 AM)
Yesterday, i managed to complete my HTPC setup.
p7h55m-i3-stock hsf(not bad)-2gb ram-1tb ram-powerlogic allegra 500. So evrything working fine, the only thing is. How can i disable the sound from HDMI, just let it go through spdif home theater set.
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set the default playback device to whatever that you want.
if you're on windows 7, right click on the speaker icon on that taskbar -> playback devices -> set the default device playback to something else.
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post May 28 2010, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(tolorati @ May 28 2010, 12:06 PM)
bro, you dare to put your sub so close to your HTPC ar?.. not scared your HDD die fast? tongue.gif
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^ what he said

strongly not adviced to put the HDD that close to the sub.
HDD + strong magnet = not good.
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post May 28 2010, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(firestater @ May 28 2010, 02:57 PM)
hdd sure no prob, RMA or get a new one... the data inside .....  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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precisely.
got one of my 1.5TB stopped working on me.
HDD is cheap, but the content in it will take months to fill back.

thankfully the SMART monitoring warned me about possible failure a few days before the HDD stopped working completely. managed to copy all but 1 movie to another hdd. smile.gif
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post May 28 2010, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(accs_centre @ May 28 2010, 04:05 PM)
TIME for SSD  icon_idea.gif
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good.. i need 6 of them in 1.5TB sizes.
should cost a few hundred k's biggrin.gif
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post Jun 3 2010, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(temppei @ Jun 3 2010, 01:49 PM)
Hi Guys,

just bought the 4 bay hotway casing. Having prob getting all hdds detected via esata. using gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H. running on win7.

any ideas? manual says support port multiplier. but wonder why cant detect the hdds in the hotway casing. USB is fine.

Updated ahci drivers etc. doesnt seem to work still.
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how much did you bought the hotway 4 bay casing for?
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post Jun 6 2010, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(Heihachi777 @ Jun 6 2010, 02:04 PM)
nothing wrong with yr mobo, u need a esata host card that supports multiplier ports, i saw a forumer is selling it (sunix brand)


Added on June 6, 2010, 2:05 pm
rm50? what brand? should be around rm150 if not mistaken
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hoho.. this is the reason i prefer to go with integrated sata in the mobo.
RM350 for the case
then another RM150 for the sata card? sweat.gif

the gigabyte h55m-usb3 costs RM400 and it has 8 sata ports, 12 usb port, usb 3.0 and it does bitstreaming too
but even if you guys still wanna go with a sata card, you might wanna try it at the shop. i've seen a lot of adapters don't work with some particular mainboard.
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post Jun 6 2010, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(Heihachi777 @ Jun 6 2010, 04:49 PM)
what mobo & model do u use? does it able to connect multiple external sata hdd with 1-esata port?
he is talking about to link 4-external sata hdd (frm enclosure) via 1-esata port at PC
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i'm running an old core2 duo gigabyte board with 4 sata port. with an RM25 3 port sata card.
6 hdd all internal and 1 of those sata port converted to esata.

never bought an external casing so no testing could be done. at RM350 a piece, i'd rather get another 1.5TB HDD biggrin.gif
i'm just saying it's not a cost effective solution to go with the 4 port bay if you have to get another RM150 sata card to go with it..

just an opinion though


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QUOTE(firestater @ Jun 6 2010, 07:13 PM)
guys, im totally noob on this audio setup. The problem is when im watching movie, the voices are to soft, when i increase it, the sound effect become more louder . So a bit hassle to me everytime the chit chat2 part i need to increase the volume then when it go boom boom boom i need to lower it down back..
My Q is there any way to balance it.
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lower just the centre channel volume (if you're running analog output from the soundcard to the speakers)
or if you're running a 2.1 speaker (or 2.0), tweak the centre level using klite audio decoder under the volume section

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post Jun 16 2010, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Elanges @ Jun 16 2010, 01:00 PM)
guys im having a problem with playing a 1080 movies on my htpc, where the movie like lag. runing 720p movies are fine

my system spec
AMD 5200 AM2
2GB DDR2 ram
1TB hdd
mobo: Asrock A780GM-LE build in gc and audio (Integrated AMD Radeon HD 3200 n 5.1 CH Windows® Vista™ Premium Level HD Audio )

does my system is good enough to play 1080 files? 
im curently runing movies using MediaPOrtal
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AFAIK, the HD3200 could do some hardware accelerataion. try and search around on how to enable it.
for the time being, try and use media player classic paired with corecodec coreavc decoder. that should be the fastest software decoder. try and use that and see if it still lags
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post Jun 16 2010, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(minimize @ Jun 16 2010, 05:16 PM)
I buy ATI HD 5570 Low Profile at RM300. This radeon can bitstream HD audio and low power consumption.
But GT2 is more cheaper than that.
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i'd rather exhaust all my options before jumping for an upgrade.
try the media player classic home cinema (mpc-hc) either with or without coreavc to see whether the problem is from the mediaportal or from hardware speed.
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post Jun 16 2010, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(creed @ Jun 16 2010, 08:13 PM)
Hi, am running 5200+ with 780g mobo (onboard HD3200 gpu); I've no problem with MPC-HC with DXVA enabled for 1080p material, just fyi. You can have the DXVA acceleration in MPC-HC easily.

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i guess you're quoting the wrong person.
ain't me running the AMD platform biggrin.gif
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post Jun 30 2010, 06:41 AM

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QUOTE(bad2928 @ Jun 29 2010, 11:19 PM)
get h55 mobo+core i3 problem solve  thumbup.gif
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h55 mobo isn't without its' weaknesses.
for one, max on the market only has 7 SATA ports (gigabyte h55m-usb3)

some of the older c2d mobo have 10 SATA ports. lots of ports are necessary important for HTPC cum media server.
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post Jun 30 2010, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Jun 30 2010, 09:54 AM)
Depend on personal preferences. I think, HTPC only need 1-2 only HDD and the rest connected with NAS or another pc for storage.
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then the cost will rapidly rise taking into consideration the price for another pc for storage or another set of NAS for storage.
NAS/storage server ain't cheap. i'd rather go with one solution that caters for both media and storage. cheaper in the long run.

i'm using a silverstone htpc case that fits 6 hdd (8 hdd after a simple mod) and another 3 on the dual 5.25" bay. so a total of 11 hdd could be stacked in there. currently using an extra mini itx board with 4 sata port and a 2 port sata pci card.

now in the process of upgrading the mainboard to another model with 10 sata port for a cost of RM250.
2 port pci sata card is only RM25.
4 port pci sata card is only RM85.

whereas a 4 hdd external case is RM355.
4 port NAS i think is close to RM1k more than RM500
2 HDD could only fit in about 150 1080p movies. not enough for someone with a large collection biggrin.gif
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post Jun 30 2010, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(peter32 @ Jun 30 2010, 02:04 PM)
I was also contemplating this option like you. But one thing we should consider is the heat generated when you turn on the computer.  I did not know how hot it was until one day I hold the active hardisk in my hand after just a half an hour job, it was HOT.

As you can imagine, if you put 4-6 hardisk drives together actively, it will easily push the temperature limit of the full HTPC.  That will translate into cooling problem if you leave the unit on for a long time, PLUS doing all the necessary processing at the same time. 

If you install too many fan, it will be very noisy too.

Thats the problem.
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not necessarily. i run windows 7 on my htpc. well on all my desktops and laptops, and by default, it turns off any unused hdd after 20 minutes.
and judging from memory, it works better than the same settings on windows xp. xp have a habit of not turning off unused drive even when you tell it to. xp randomly access hdd for god knows why.

unused drive will take around 5 second to spin back to life after being turned off. happens a lot after i finish watching a movie and searching for the next to watch.
off-ed drive is only a tad warm to the touch. and that's without any fan blowing to the hdd.

for htpc use, i really suggest not going the 7200rpm route as those blazing drive generates lots of heat. all my drive are the slow, 5400rpm ones. generates considerably less heat than 7200rpm drives.
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QUOTE(azxel @ Jun 30 2010, 05:06 PM)
Hi Pete... Frankly speaking.. I'm not quite certain...

PC (not really HTPC) with AMD Athlon with ATi 4850, 2 internal HDDs and 550Watts Power Supply left on 24/7 got my bill up to RM1XX per month..!! sweat.gif Compared to not turned on that for that long (evenings when I'm back home only) is about RM50 per month, sometimes less. This was before I had the aircon...

So, I suspect that it's the PC... not sure what else is causing the big jump in electric bill...

Currently, with the aircon, it is turned on for about less than 12 hours daily with the temp set at 26degrees...
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i'd blame it on the aircond, not on the htpc.
my bill is only about RM25-26 per month before this. couple of month goes below RM20 and paid by the gov.
now it's RM250 after airconditioning. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 1 2010, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Jul 1 2010, 12:18 AM)
If HTPC on 24/7, it will cost a lot based on your our setup. My electrical bill usually cost RM40-50 without air-cond and pc (with washing machine, water heater, fridge etc). But after installing air-cond, my bill jump to RM70-RM80 with 8h-12h daily usage. With my current setup and setting up my windows 7 to sleep most of the time, my bill is slightly increase around RM80 only (with air-cond). This month, I try to on almost 24/7 and now still waiting for electrical bill to see the diff.

Previously, when I on my pc 24/7 for torrent, my bill can easily reach RM80 with my old E8400+HD4650 setup (without air-cond).
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walauweh only increase 2 times. very good ekon you have biggrin.gif
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post Jul 1 2010, 07:18 AM

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QUOTE(wenhui100 @ Jul 1 2010, 02:06 AM)
Is this remote compatable with XMBC??
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yes it is compatible. i'm using it with xbmc.
apart from a few not important buttons, everything works out of the box.

but make sure you tick 'remote sends keyboard keypress' (i think) option in the xbmc configuration page
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post Jul 1 2010, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(blehtw @ Jul 1 2010, 11:42 AM)
Hi guys.. care to advise whether Sapphire HD4350 can bitstream HD audio? Saw it for sale at RM 120. Thought of buying it to test out on htpc.
I've checked from the website and it mentioned that it supports Dolby True HD and DTS HD Master. How true is this?
Link to website: http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/p...=000101&pid=210
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nope. you need a 5 series ATI card. i'm using ATI 5450, the cheapest in the ATI line that could bitstream.
tested and confirmed it can do HD audio bitstreaming to my AVR.

costs RM165 from PCZone (or issit CZone) lowyat. no other shop have them.

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