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post Mar 30 2010, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(shuto1 @ Mar 30 2010, 07:42 PM)
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that is one sexy case!
never knew an ATX case could be no bigger than an AVR.
all ATX system that i've ever came across are big big tower that looks awfully too big next to the tv
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post Apr 3 2010, 10:53 PM

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# 5.1 Channel x 100W Card(MS-4140)
# 100W Peak, Channel Drive, 8Ω
# THD+N: <0.1%, 1kHz, 1W
# SNR: >105 dB
# Frequency Response: ±0.5 dB (20Hz to 20kHz)
# 93% Efficient Power Amplifier

even the mobo itself has RCA audio out as well as YPbPr component out for those users without HDMI-capable tv.
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i LoLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL-ed
that puny thing?

5.1 X 100W?
at 8Ohm?
from 12V PSU power?
at 0.1% THD+N?

er wait,
100W peak?
0.1% THD at 1W?
what about continuous driven?
what about at say, something like 50W driven? with 5 channels simultaneously?

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overblown specs?
as expected from a manufacturer
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post Apr 4 2010, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(sean_gtech @ Apr 4 2010, 09:39 PM)
hmmm.....i don't understand what u mean by duplicate but if i mange to get my hand
on the card,i just buy those onkyo speaker at garage sale.rm100 for 5.smile.gif.by the way,
that's the card that i saw in utube.the 1 with the long heat sink.
which route do u think is better for me?go for htib or look for that amplifier card?thanks.
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with not much budget to start, i won't go either way.
if i were you, i'd get myself some decent 5.1 speakers with a sub and use that instead for my movies. those shouldn't cost too much

but hey maybe that's just me.


Added on April 4, 2010, 10:06 pmand owh forgot to add..
even if you manage to find the amplifier card for the mobo, you still have no sub.

a sub, IMHO is quite important for that umph in movies

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post May 2 2010, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(kopking10 @ May 2 2010, 07:57 AM)
thanks netherlord and many others, went Lowyat yest. got quoted for i3 and still within budget but the catch is the Audio. Sales guy from Desa HT Kepong on Ground floor recommended me to use YAMAHA AVR - rx-v365 combo with ns-p280 satelite w/ sub. With a budget of 1.5k for a decent sound system? Shoould i try luck on 2nd hand or any recommendation?
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you get a core i3 which can do hd audio.
doesn't look right if you get 365 which can't do hd audio. then after reading the forums for a while, reading how good and better hd audio to some ears, you're inclined to experience hd audio yourself in your setup.

then you're inclined to sell off the used 365 to move up the ladder.
by then you're gonna regret getting the 365 in the first place seeing that a used 365 won't fetch that much money. you're gonna have a hard time selling the avr which can't do hd audio.
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post May 4 2010, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(kopking10 @ May 4 2010, 08:50 AM)
thanks, really appreciate ur effort, i have also came across one of ur thread that u were setting up HT system as well. Mind telling me what AVR u chose in the end? TQVM. How much is the pioneer VSX-819, RX-V465, Onkyo SR507 or Marantz 5003 which i came across. For Marantz 5003 only cost around 1.3k i can still grab Puccas Sat speaker rm100 and still make myself within 2k budget.
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Marantz SR5003 at RM1.3k is a good buy. i though it's at RM1.8k like pioneer vsx-919
RM1.3k with DTS-HDMA/TrueHD decoding and 7.1 preout is thumbup.gif

QUOTE(qwerty79 @ May 4 2010, 10:16 AM)
I agree with netherlord. You should get at least RX-V465 or similiar range product because your board support HD-Audio and it will be a waste if you not fully utilize it. Last time I checked, V465 cost around RM1600.
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RX-V465 if you like yamaha sound signature.
Pioneer VXS-819 if you like pioneer sound signature.
Denon 1610 if you like denon sound signature.
Marantz SR5003 if you like marantz sound signature.
and then there's also onkyo and harman kardon. smile.gif

they all sound different from each other.
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post May 4 2010, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(Elanges @ May 4 2010, 11:01 AM)
hi sifu's  i need some help. i have some video clips which is in N264 video codec .. i tried install many type of codec still canot play the file. error unable to locate codec.  pls guide me
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it's not N264, but H264.
try and google klite mega codec. install either the full mega codec or the standard one. should be able to play most (if not all) of your media files.
or try and download vlc media player. it has built in codec in it.
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post May 4 2010, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(kapultek @ May 4 2010, 11:33 AM)
the price full set with casing or not??
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cheap casing could be had for RM50 till a few thousand.
i just built 3 HTPC using
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for RM1.5k

core i3, the best gigabyte h55 board that i can find, 2gb ram and silverstone strider st400 power supply. didn't skimp on the power supply, mainboard and casing as it will be sitting in front of you.
the case costs me RM400 each.
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post May 4 2010, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(Elanges @ May 4 2010, 01:05 PM)
installed mega codec still same.. pls refer to the pic
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OMG it is N264!
i thought it's a typo. N264 codec is CCTV codec right? a search in google for N264 codec turns a few other question about playability. no answers though.. tough luck
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post May 4 2010, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(netherlord @ May 4 2010, 09:49 PM)
I think the model is Silverstone LC 17, there one display on C-Zone Level 2 at LYP but i didn't see the price for it.


Added on May 4, 2010, 10:08 pm

Whats the extension of the file? i know some cctv files can only be read if you installed their software or use their USB Key something. MY freind has one of those CCTV, very troublesome. In order to view the cctv footage from another pc, you have to purchase extra license or their USB thingy.


Added on May 4, 2010, 11:04 pm

The whole CPU excluding Monitor, Keynoard/Mouse. Casing is normal china RM80 casing i think lol.

Sorry for the late reply, missed that one  doh.gif
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it is silverstone lc17. would like to go for lc20, but the price difference is too big. better invest it in extra hdd.
czone is selling it for RM430+ so i got mine through a seller in garage sales selling it for RM400

look very nice. blends well with everything else in the cabinet.
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post May 5 2010, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(kopking10 @ May 5 2010, 08:43 AM)
Couldnt agree more, studied on some of the models. And yeah Pioneer 919AHK has 7.1 ch as well as Marantz SR5003 that narrows down compared to Yamaha RX-V465...thing is price is little steep for new models and will be looking for a 2nd for those who are upgrading. Speakers wise Pucca's speaker is one of the target and sub i think i cant go wrong with KEF.
Marantz for RM1.3k is used and has already been sold!!! too late...anyways i am planning for August. THanks for all the comment s and opiionion will get back for an update!
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them cheap Onkyo can't be beaten for the price. but they also can't be improved with external amplification. i tried plugging them to my power amp and they sound more or less the same haha

even my old aiwa mini hifi speaker improves with amplification. guess for the price i bought them onkyos for, i can't complain much. laugh.gif
anyway they're now discarded delegated as test speakers for my amp. blown one on the first day of test. biggrin.gif
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post May 9 2010, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(kianwee @ May 9 2010, 09:22 AM)
I'm hunting for a decent HTPC casing, was looking at Silverstone LC20 at the moment but the 80mm fan really turns me off, 120mm is a must for me to achieve higher airflow and most importantly it is not audible. There were a couple of Silverstone models which has 120mm fan but the design is not my cup of tea.

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This baby cost me around RM800, which is around Silverstone LC20 price I believe, and I have to ship it from US to Malaysia, since the nearest distributor in Singapore doesn't have it. Looking forward to complete my HTPC with Core i5 & H55 chipset. Now I'm looking for a decent heatsink for my i5, I'm planning to run passive to minimise the fan sound.
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LC20 and LC17 have 2X80mm fan at the back. and optional 2 at the front and 1 at the side. using LC17 at the moment, i do believe 80mm are enough. there's no audible noise from it and my case doesn't even heat up when in use. but i only turn it on to watch movies and turn it off after that.

and it has 6 HDD bay. i'm using all 6 bays with samsung 1.5TB drives. still it doesn't heat up.
2 of my recently built HTPC are also running LC17 with core i3 and H55. the pair doesn't produce much heat thanks to the 32mm die. and all 3 are running the stock heatsink and fan combo.

IMO you don't need 120mm fan, not even if you're thinking of running the HTPC 24/7. the LC17/LC20 have great internal arrangement and lots of ventilation space.
and the best thing is, it supports lots of HDD. with little mod, i could fit in 8 HDD in there. and will do so once all my 6 are full.
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post May 9 2010, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(kianwee @ May 9 2010, 04:20 PM)
I need 120mm fan because I'm running on passive heatsink, thus I need maximum air flow to keep the unit cool while maintaining the silence. I'm not going to use the stock Intel heatsink. Of course 80mm can do the job too, but the CFM will never be as good as 120mm. I'm still looking for some heatsink replacement from Thermalright but finding one would be a challenge because of the casing size. I'm used to passive cooling and I'm really really sensitive to fan sound. A tiny fan sound can annoy me. rclxub.gif And I'll only be running one 2TB WD green inside the case to keep the heat down, I'll be storing my media in a Synology 4xsata bay NAS.
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the 80mm fan sound in an aluminium case, a few meters from your sitting position, next to the TV and speakers won't be audible IMO. unless you put the HTPC next to you.

even then, the 80mm sound will be overwhelmed by the aircond hehe
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post May 9 2010, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(temppei @ May 9 2010, 06:58 PM)
kianwee,

i got that casing from singapore but without the remote as in ur picture. asked a friend to bring it over.

got it for 800rm+ after conversion. it's one hell of a casing smile.gif
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at that price, it better be.. tongue.gif
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post May 9 2010, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(kianwee @ May 9 2010, 09:41 PM)
Sound is not that bigger problem for me since I'll be blasting movie anyway, most importantly I need the airflow which the 80mm will not deliver.
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i rest my case.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 10 2010, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(qwerty79 @ May 10 2010, 10:54 AM)
Intel stock fan is not as noisy as I thought. In fact it run quieter than my previous CM hsf. From 5 ft, I can't here anything from my pc specially with all the movie sound.
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precisely. i've grown out of aftermarket solutions for years now.
unless people are thinking of overclocking the CPU, the stock heatsink and fan are good enough. even closer than 5 ft, i can't hear anything from my HTPC.
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post May 14 2010, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(accs_centre @ May 13 2010, 03:17 PM)
Real power PSU doesnt waste energy and use electricity efficiently..

Dont get mistaken a 500W PSU will consume 500W all the times.. it is the highest load the PSU can handle..
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and IMHO it would also be helpful to get a PSU that has high efficiency rating.
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QUOTE(Riddhy @ May 17 2010, 01:14 AM)
hi guys i want to know does a very cheap htpc card like

8400 gs/g210/3450/4350/5450 really accelerates 1080p mkv files with avg bit rate of 15 to 25 mbps with h.264//vc-1//mpeg2 codecs??

i mean with latest drivers and support will the cpu usage be around 30% max? i have quad core Q9400  for mw and Ph II X4 945 in my parents pc i really want a very cheap card to enjoy the 1080p mkv in my  vacation please suggest me some
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you want a portable htpc to accompany you to your vacation?

LoL

better get something small like the wdtv live. costs just RM300-something.
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post May 17 2010, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Riddhy @ May 17 2010, 02:31 PM)
i dont have aa hdmi tv in my house

nvidia g210/g220/gt240 i heard that they are better decoders than 5000 series i might be wrong but they support vp4
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and how do you expect to plug the HTPC to your TV?
eh wait, are you using the computer LCD to play your movies?
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post May 19 2010, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(ithomesolution @ May 19 2010, 11:48 AM)
choose 1 can play full hd 1080p playback through 40" full HD but some of high 3d game cannot play lo.

another option
amd 250(rm210)+gigabyte 785(rm320)+graphic card gt250 or ati 4670(rm2xx)

can handle full hd playback & 3d gaming
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but doesn't do HD audio bitstreaming.
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QUOTE(firestater @ May 19 2010, 04:13 PM)
.AMD Athlon II X2 AM3 Processor 250  (rm225)+ Ati HD 5450 (rm250) <---this the 5 series is it? can HD audio bitstreaming) + mobo GA-MA785GMT-US2H (rm310) = total rm 885

regarding this setup , how do you thing about the sound from the fan/box. how loud it is?
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i've build some core i3 with gigabyte h55m-usb3 also costed RM800+
the mainboard supports 8 SATA drives, i think 12 USB port and USB 3.0

5450 is an entry level card. i doubt you could game on that card. and AMD usually runs hotter than intel chips. esp compared to the newer i3.

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