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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club- The Kop Talks 2010, Liverpool 0-0 Fulham

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post Mar 14 2010, 09:18 PM

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post Mar 14 2010, 09:28 PM

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i feel sad that we have that poll in this thread :/
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post Mar 14 2010, 09:39 PM


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QUOTE(x13u5t3r @ Mar 14 2010, 09:28 PM)
i feel sad that we have that poll in this thread :/
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I still have faith in Liverpool, but not with the yanks at helm..

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/foo...icle7061092.ece

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But no deal will happen before Liverpool’s qualification for next season’s Champions League is settled. Qualifying would help Hicks and Gillett keep majority ownership. Failure could force a sale of the whole club.


From the last paragraph.. Id rather not qualify to the next CL if this means we could get rid of that greedy duo.. Then we rebuild from there
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post Mar 14 2010, 09:46 PM

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Questioning the manager is not being unfaithful to the club.
Btw, when will people stop putting all the blame on the yanks? They did pay 20 million for a lump of wood that adorns our bench. If anything, the manager and the squad are the ones who need to look at themselves!
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post Mar 14 2010, 09:50 PM


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QUOTE(madmoz @ Mar 14 2010, 09:46 PM)
Questioning the manager is not being unfaithful to the club.
Btw, when will people stop putting all the blame on the yanks? They did pay 20 million for a lump of wood that adorns our bench. If anything, the manager and the squad are the ones who need to look at themselves!
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No, the yanks put 20mil british pounds from Liverpool accounts and not from their own pocket for Rafa to put a player on the bench.. Hence all three must leave

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post Mar 14 2010, 10:13 PM

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i vote rafa to walk on to real madrid......


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QUOTE(madmoz @ Mar 14 2010, 09:46 PM)
Questioning the manager is not being unfaithful to the club.
Btw, when will people stop putting all the blame on the yanks? They did pay 20 million for a lump of wood that adorns our bench. If anything, the manager and the squad are the ones who need to look at themselves!
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sure can question one's position..but to have such formal poll at the front of an official thread..doesnt sounds right..

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post Mar 14 2010, 10:25 PM

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the owner should go away.....nothing to shout about......new stadium ? new player ? its like rakyat didahulukan,janji dikotakan........wtf ?


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post Mar 14 2010, 11:38 PM

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we already got players that play for their Nation, we got 20M player in the bench, we got promises youngster, we got a great fans....he's not managing Wigan or Portsmourt...he's managing Liverpool, if he can bring us the title, he will be great....

'He managed to get his team to be a winner with limited budget' - does it sounds good? Does Morinho like the challenge?

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Mar 14 2010, 09:46 PM)
Questioning the manager is not being unfaithful to the club.
Btw, when will people stop putting all the blame on the yanks? They did pay 20 million for a lump of wood that adorns our bench. If anything, the manager and the squad are the ones who need to look at themselves!
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They DID NOT pay for glass boy.. they use LFC money (some from alonso's sale) They DID NOT deliver what they have promised.. the obvious one is the new stadium.

so YANKS OUT!
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Liverpool 'in investment talks with US group'

Liverpool have received a £118.5m investment bid from private equity firm Rhone Group, according to reports.

American co-owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett are obliged to reduce the club's £237m debt with Royal Bank of Scotland by £100m by this summer.

The deal would make the New York-based group the largest shareholder with 40%, Hicks and Gillett each falling to 30%.

The Press Association report added that the bid, tabled on Saturday, has yet to be discussed at board level.

If a bid were to materialise it would be the first positive result of Anfield chief executive Christian Purslow's search for new investors ahead of the bank deadline.

Money needs to go to paying debt and the stadium before it goes to the manager

Aside from slashing the club's debt in half, the group's funds would also improve the club's credit-worthiness, which in turn would make Liverpool more attractive for further outside investment.

Hicks and Gillett took control of Liverpool in February 2007, each taking a 50% stake.

However, their reign has proven unpopular with Reds fans, with the debt burden they have placed on the club and the delayed construction of the proposed new stadium at Stanley Park coming in for particular criticism.

Founded in 1997, the Rhone Group is owned and managed by financiers Robert Agostinelli and Steven Langman.

The company describes itself as "one of the world's leading mid-market private equity firms", and has its headquarters in New York with other offices in London and Paris.

WE'RE GETTING ANOTHER 2 MORE CLOWNS

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QUOTE(fenzodahl512 @ Mar 14 2010, 09:50 PM)
No, the yanks put 20mil british pounds from Liverpool accounts and not from their own pocket for Rafa to put a player on the bench.. Hence all three must leave
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QUOTE(rushmode @ Mar 15 2010, 01:35 AM)
They DID NOT pay for glass boy.. they use LFC money (some from alonso's sale) They DID NOT deliver what they have promised.. the obvious one is the new stadium.

so YANKS OUT!
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I am sorry but the two of you (and a majority of the press and supporters) do not seem to understand (or perhaps do not want to understand) the concept of 'fully owned' and private entity. It might essentially be money generated/borrowed by the club, but ultimately the money belongs to the owners? In fact, should be owners choose to, I believe that there is nothing (except for the fact that it makes no economical sense) to stop them from liquidating the club and selling things off piecemeal.

Not saying that the owners are faultless - they are shrewd b@st@rdly businessmen, but despite the romantic notions of 'you never walk alone', people's club etc, Liverpool FC currently belong to them two lying c*nts, and it is up to them to do whatever they want with her.
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post Mar 15 2010, 07:30 AM

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if only we could win our next 2 mathces ahead...........else rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Mar 15 2010, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Mar 13 2010, 09:08 PM)
Rafa Benitez is the man to get the job done. One must think the good deed he has done before bashing him just because The Kop poor performance 2009-2010 campaign. But first the player must motivated themselves. Reina, Johnson, Insua, Skrtel, Carragher, Kuyt, Gerrard, Aquilani, Mascherano, Riera, Benayoun, Maxi, Torres all top class player who represent their country. So there are no inferior player at the squad.
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Mate, I think you have to give some of us credit here. It isn't just now that we are questioning his pedigree. I myself have been doing so for the past 2 seasons as I imagine some of the other posters have been.

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It isn't just about our current campaign. What I posted above 2 seasons back may be outdated but I think it's still relevant.

QUOTE(ELm_ELm @ Mar 14 2010, 12:20 PM)
mcleish is a british version of rafa so i dont see any point of getting him..
Unlike Rafa however, I don't see him bringing attracting a host of big name players like Fernando Torres. Scotland haven't qualified for the World Cup since 1990, and are about to have their Champions League spots reduced from 2 to 1 such is inferiority of their league. Then again, we were originally a team of Scots smile.gif
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post Mar 15 2010, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 15 2010, 09:57 AM)
Mate, I think you have to give some of us credit here. It isn't just now that we are questioning his pedigree. I myself have been doing so for the past 2 seasons as I imagine some of the other posters have been.

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Duke is right. I think past 1-2 seasons, the main debate was Rafa is good for a 90 minutes tactical battle and hence a good cup manager. Major doubt was on his ability to sustain a season long charge to win the title. Problem is this season, even cup runs seems to have disappeared into thin air...

Of course, there is always that magical 2nd half of last season....not only results were coming....our football was good- disciplined, compact and yet full of attacking intent....But that is also a very difficult topic to bring up here because it will inevitably be linked to Alonso....which will then bring us to Rafa's management style..and then open up another long debate here....

There was a small debate here about King Kenny coming in and steadying the ship until a good manager is found (lets not rush into Mcleish or anyone that is available)...

Personally, i would like to give Mourinho a chance, for 2 reasons. Players respond to his management (our current big names, mid names and young players need that it seems). Secondly, his track record of titles speaks volume.
But he must be willing to come with limited budget i guess...and that i aint sure. of maybe for the pride of restoring a slumbering giant + proving his supremacy over SAF, AW and even Abrahamovich!

But then, the slightest idea of wanting Jose to come can invite missiles and abuse hurled at you nowadays.. tongue.gif

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post Mar 15 2010, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(nando @ Mar 15 2010, 10:11 AM)
Personally, i would like to give Mourinho a chance, for 2 reasons.  Players respond to his management (our current big names, mid names and young players need that it seems).  Secondly, his track record of titles speaks volume. 
But he must be willing to come with limited budget i guess...and that i aint sure.  of maybe for the pride of restoring a slumbering giant + proving his supremacy over SAF, AW and even Abrahamovich!

But then, the slightest idea of wanting Jose to come can invite missiles and abuse hurled at you nowadays.. tongue.gif
I can see merits in Mourinho. He is someone you love to have on your side, and absolutely hate as a nemesis. What I do like about him is he is a good man manager, and he has a winning attitude.

On the flipside, I do think his ego will make him believe that he is bigger than the club. I mean he is the "special one". He may not respect the club's tradition and culture.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 15 2010, 10:39 AM)
I can see merits in Mourinho. He is someone you love to have on your side, and absolutely hate as a nemesis. What I do like about him is he is a good man manager, and he has a winning attitude.

On the flipside, I do think his ego will make him believe that he is bigger than the club. I mean he is the "special one". He may not respect the club's tradition and culture.
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Agreed, although the Kop has been known to humble even the most arrogant of characters. But if anyone's coming, it'll probably be someone like alex mcleish or the best, martin o'neil. Which top flight manager would consider to takeover a club in such a crisis?
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I'm with Duke on this one. He knows my stand on Rafa u-turned the moment Peter Crouch didn't start against AC Milan in 2007 UCL Final. Since then i've been firmed on my belief that he will not win us the Premiership as long as he does not change his approach to the English game. He nearly prove me wrong last season, but this season is another different story all together. The situation with the owners and clowns didn't help his cause, but that alone cannot be use as the reason for our dismal form. When things don't go according to plan, those at the helm needs to stand up and be counted. The players also need some bollocking.

Alex McLeish - wrong to get him if the only reason we're interested is as reported - cheap get out clause.

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