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TSwoengx2
post Mar 6 2010, 11:06 PM, updated 15y ago

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Hi, All

It is very much interesting to know how many ppl here has done the booking with this mighty ALL NEW SONATA YF 2011 ? drool.gif

Please update the list here below :

1) Woengx2

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post Mar 6 2010, 11:11 PM

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just received my Mazda 3 sedan few weeks ago whistling.gif
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post Mar 6 2010, 11:11 PM

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really? can bookd d? how come my dealer oni sed near may 2010 can oni book. how much booking fee u ped?
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post Mar 7 2010, 12:36 AM

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RM2K FULLY REFUNDABLE
PRICE RANGE RM130K TO RM170K
2.0 BASIC
2.0 HIGH SPEC
2.4 ( CAN'T REMEMBERED )
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post Mar 7 2010, 12:39 AM

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woengx2, have you got more precise details? 130k for basic? Ouch... exceeded my expectations on the price.
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post Mar 7 2010, 12:53 AM

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MangO, it is just the indication price range from the SA.
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post Mar 7 2010, 01:33 AM

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I think I'll hold off my booking until I get more details on the specs and price. smile.gif

woengx2, you have made a good choice in the car. Like the adverts you will "Blend Out". Are you aiming for the 2.0 high spec?
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post Mar 7 2010, 09:21 AM

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Booking Fee is fully refundable and this is the reason I placed the booking.
Yes, is looking for high spec with brack control, panoramic roof and etc.
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post Mar 7 2010, 11:56 AM

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Still waiting, if confirmed with panoramic roof then will proceed with booking
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post Mar 7 2010, 12:51 PM

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TS... why don't u put some image and some other country spec into ur thread?
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post Mar 7 2010, 03:54 PM

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The pictures below is copy from other's forum.

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/wp-conten...ab-03-thumb.jpg

http://automing.com/wp-content/uploads/201...aisonata024.jpg

http://www.road-reality.com/wp-content/upl...ai_sonata_2.jpg

http://z.about.com/d/cars/1/0/q/3/2/11_sonata_rear1.jpg

http://burnyourfuel.com/My_Files/Hyundai/S...nata-YF-01.jpeg

http://www.thetorquereport.com/2010_hyunda...ata_kdm_off.jpg

http://www.autospies.com/images/users/blan...main/SONATA.jpg

http://www.hyundaipictures.com/wp-content/...isonata0201.jpg

http://www.hyundaipictures.com/wp-content/...isonata0191.jpg

http://burnyourfuel.com/My_Files/Hyundai/S...nata-YF-02.jpeg
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post Mar 7 2010, 04:02 PM

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post Mar 7 2010, 04:25 PM

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Gorgeous car. Should convince my dad to get one of this.
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post Mar 7 2010, 05:25 PM

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Thanks! You done a superb job for me fk2222 !!!
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Check out the cool start up sequence...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcn8WpK_p58
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post Mar 7 2010, 09:42 PM

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WOW!! It's pretty cool !!!
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post Mar 7 2010, 10:58 PM

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How much is it for the SE version with pedal shift?

http://www.hyundaisonata.com/
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post Mar 7 2010, 11:01 PM

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So far official price list is not out. Maybe 150k? Assuming price is 130k to 170k for 2.0 basic 2.4.
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post Mar 7 2010, 11:07 PM

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ic..thanks for the info. Please update if the price list is out and the spec too.
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post Mar 7 2010, 11:14 PM

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Just read a comment on NST CBT today, it seemed the model with the new 2.4L GDI version will not be brought in due to our fuel RON not up to the standard. Not sure how true is this though.
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post Mar 7 2010, 11:28 PM

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omg... hope tat is not true!!
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post Mar 8 2010, 12:35 AM

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the limited edition sonata 2011~


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post Mar 8 2010, 11:27 AM

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Extract from CBT : [ Meanwhile, the new Sonata is said to be several notches above rivals such as the Honda Accord and Toyota Camry... ]

Does it mean the price of this new sonata yf 2011 will be higher than accord and camry ?? !!
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QUOTE(woengx2 @ Mar 8 2010, 11:27 AM)
Extract from CBT : [ Meanwhile, the new Sonata is said to be several notches above rivals such as the Honda Accord and Toyota Camry... ]

Does it mean the price of this new sonata yf 2011 will be higher than accord and camry ?? !!
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I don't think so, if we read the sentence biggrin.gif
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post Mar 8 2010, 02:37 PM

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Wow, the design is damn nice rclxms.gif so in love with it drool.gif
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post Mar 8 2010, 04:59 PM

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Yes! Hopefully they are pricing it lowest as possible !!
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post Mar 8 2010, 05:24 PM

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Ya, if the price is low, I think camry and accord will get affected hehe
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post Mar 15 2010, 01:20 PM

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can't wait to know the price... and planning to change if the price is reasonable..
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post Apr 9 2010, 04:59 PM

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have the price been comfirmed, on mudah.my dealer are putting 140-160k
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post Apr 13 2010, 12:01 PM

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any update on official launch date?
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post Apr 13 2010, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(rockdaman @ Apr 13 2010, 12:01 PM)
any update on official launch date?
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already launched in SG, but havent seen any on road yet, i guess malaysia will be few months later..
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QUOTE(kevin613 @ Apr 13 2010, 12:44 PM)
already launched in SG, but havent seen any on road yet, i guess malaysia will be few months later..
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i tot it should be lauching this month on april.
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QUOTE(rockdaman @ Apr 13 2010, 04:42 PM)
i tot it should be lauching this month on april.
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no idea, i'm just guessing based on past experience, malaysia always get new models later than other countries..
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post Apr 17 2010, 07:51 AM

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Please dont make the booking now!

Its better for buyers for NOT rushing to do the booking just because wanna be the first owner. SD is still studying the market price. If they see the demand is high, surely they will hike up the price.
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post Jul 26 2010, 08:11 PM

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Hi,

I wanted to get this car. Already seen it and cost RM143,888 fro 2.0 high spec. A very very elegant and sporty design. I like it so much.

Just wondering who's driving it now? I just want to get some comment. TQ
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post Jul 27 2010, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Mycypro @ Jul 26 2010, 08:11 PM)
Hi,

I wanted to get this car. Already seen it and cost RM143,888 fro 2.0 high spec. A very very elegant and sporty design. I like it so much.

Just wondering who's driving it now? I just want to get some comment. TQ
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The first batch will only be available in late july or early august. U need to wait until august before any1 can give u comments.

I personally booked it (2.0 high specs) in mid july. SD said I will get the car in next month (early? mid? late?).

My frenz booked it few days ago and he need to wait about 2++ months ady.
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QUOTE(ngfamily @ Jul 27 2010, 12:07 AM)
The first batch will only be available in late july or early august. U need to wait until august before any1 can give u comments.

I personally booked it (2.0 high specs) in mid july. SD said I will get the car in next month (early? mid? late?).

My frenz booked it few days ago and he need to wait about 2++ months ady.
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Anybody can confirm to me if Sale Assistant can offer you to speedup the process by giving u the car that have being cancel by the buyer bcos of loan not approved by bank?Jump Q?
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QUOTE(ngfamily @ Jul 27 2010, 12:07 AM)
The first batch will only be available in late july or early august. U need to wait until august before any1 can give u comments.

I personally booked it (2.0 high specs) in mid july. SD said I will get the car in next month (early? mid? late?).

My frenz booked it few days ago and he need to wait about 2++ months ady.
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Bro, really? you have booked it? have you got the car now? I am really excited to wait for it. Coz I have planned to get it end/early of this/next year. Please PM me ya if you found anything. Thank you so much...
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post Aug 9 2010, 09:44 PM

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I think there will be delay for the bookings, up to today, the car not even arrive for those who booked the car before the launching. As the latest information, the first batch of Sonata will only be OTR after 15th Aug..
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Probably will call the SA these few days. OMG, such a efficient company. No wonder Sime Darby shares nowadays.....
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For the buyers out there, can compare what is the best deal gotten and from which dealer? Personally i was quoted RM3K overtrade discount for my old car and discount for V cool Elite (70%) tinting
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Finally i got my car, i booked in Glenmarie, Shah Alam with the OT 3K also.. Total RM 810 of other freebies due to booked before the official launching..
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congrats bro! im still waiting for my sonata.
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QUOTE(ngfamily @ Oct 2 2010, 12:32 AM)
congrats bro! im still waiting for my sonata.
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When u book your car? Should be soon.. trust me, you will love it when u have it !! smile.gif

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post Nov 10 2010, 03:52 PM

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This car looks great and was considering if not just got new car this year. Congrats to those that's getting them smile.gif

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Sorry guys, I previously owned previous Sonata and test drove the new Sonata today. Despite being optimism that the new Sonata will improve over the previous generation, the new engine still lacks the torque compare to other competitive brand of cars out there. Features wise, not much changes. I still feel the same amount of power with my old Sonata, except the new Sonata looks more luxurious and fuel saver with 6 speed gear.

Good luck with those new Sonata owners. Wish you guys all the best and have fun driving the new car. smile.gif
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Saw it on the road in Penang since last week smile.gif
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In KL almost can see it everyday on the road esp. in Petaling Jaya area.
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QUOTE(vicng @ Nov 19 2010, 11:36 AM)
In KL almost can see it everyday on the road esp. in Petaling Jaya area.
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Can see everyday??? common la. I drive around alot in Klang Valley and since the launch ive only seen about 6 Sonata's on the road so far. Sales are really poor. Maybe ure seeing the same car driving around la.
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Nov 10 2010, 10:38 PM)
Sorry guys, I previously owned previous Sonata and test drove the new Sonata today. Despite being optimism that the new Sonata will improve over the previous generation, the new engine still lacks the torque compare to other competitive brand of cars out there. Features wise, not much changes. I still feel the same amount of power with my old Sonata, except the new Sonata looks more luxurious and fuel saver with 6 speed gear. 

Good luck with those new Sonata owners. Wish you guys all the best and have fun driving the new car. smile.gif
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Well i havent test driven it yet so wont comment on that. But going by the price itself (being too close to the Camry), the Sonata is losing out big time. Wrong move by Hyundai. Hope they dont repeat that mistake with the Avante next year.
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I hardly can see one in Subang Jaya area. So far only see 3 only in like 3 months. But i'm still happy with it since it's a rare sight on the road here biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(vicng @ Nov 19 2010, 11:36 AM)
In KL almost can see it everyday on the road esp. in Petaling Jaya area
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Bro u see it everyday? Whr do u live? Near hyundai showroom?

I travel alot everyday since i doin sales and since launch until now i saw like 4 sonatas on the road which are not test drive vehicles
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Nov 19 2010, 12:37 PM)
Bro u see it everyday? Whr do u live? Near hyundai showroom?

I travel alot everyday since i doin sales and since launch until now i saw like 4 sonatas on the road which are not test drive vehicles
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Exactly. There are very few on the road. I think ive seen more Porsche Cayenne than Hyundai Sonata. brows.gif
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Nov 19 2010, 12:37 PM)
Bro u see it everyday? Whr do u live? Near hyundai showroom?

I travel alot everyday since i doin sales and since launch until now i saw like 4 sonatas on the road which are not test drive vehicles
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The same car which is used for the test drive, so see it everyday coz the salesman bring it out to go buy his coffee hahahaha!
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 19 2010, 01:00 PM)
Exactly. There are very few on the road. I think ive seen more Porsche Cayenne than Hyundai Sonata.  brows.gif
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 19 2010, 11:50 AM)
Can see everyday??? common la. I drive around alot in Klang Valley and since the launch ive only seen about 6 Sonata's on the road so far. Sales are really poor. Maybe ure seeing the same car driving around la.
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Sales are really poor???? Are u sure or not. I just got my sonata few weeks ago. Very nice car to drive. No regret at all even though i have to wait 3 months. The waiting period is killing. That's why u see very rare sonata yf. Many buyers still hatching egg waiting their sonatas to be delivered. I heard new book will take much longer. 5-6 months.

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Congrats.. do inform how it is as looks wise it's really good!!

Do invest in some good car detailing products to pamper your new ride. I'll letting go some of my overbought ones smile.gif
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QUOTE(isan69 @ Nov 23 2010, 06:09 PM)
Sales are really poor???? Are u sure or not. I just got my sonata few weeks ago. Very nice car to drive. No regret at all even though i have to wait 3 months. The waiting period is killing. That's why u see very rare sonata yf. Many buyers still hatching egg waiting their sonatas to be delivered. I heard new book will take much longer. 5-6 months.
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Slow delivery is not a reflection of the actual sales. The production of a car is always suited to demand. If they only expect to sell 200 units a month that their production will probably be 50% of that since they have to think of long term demand and not just current. Thats why u get a lag in delivery period. Doesnt mean demand is that great until production cannot cope.
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Got fed up waiting for my sonata yf vmad.gif ..promised by the salesman I could get the car in three months time but is already more than 3 months..Kept delaying the car delivery and giving all sort of reason and now telling me only can get my car before chinese new year. So decided to book the new nissan teana which promised to deliver within a month..so now i would wait whoever that give me the car first i would cancel booking of the other..
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Since the launch I saw one already in JB.
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QUOTE(jimmynhs @ Nov 28 2010, 03:05 AM)
Got fed up waiting for my sonata yf vmad.gif ..promised by the salesman I could get the car in three months time but is already more than 3 months..Kept delaying the car delivery and giving all sort of reason and now telling me only can get my car before chinese new year. So decided to book the new nissan teana which promised to deliver within a month..so now i would wait whoever that give me the car first i would cancel booking of the other..
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Bro, Im sure u wont regret for the waiting when the cars come. I waited for nearly 4months until nearly give up (going for camry). BUt everytime after i went back from the showroom (bang the SA) I will change my mind again. Its the company problem, not the car itself. Anyway, im getting it by this week. cheers. =)
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QUOTE(ngfamily @ Nov 29 2010, 06:11 AM)
Bro, Im sure u wont regret for the waiting when the cars come. I waited for nearly 4months until nearly give up (going for camry). BUt everytime after i went back from the showroom (bang the SA) I will change my mind again. Its the company problem, not the car itself. Anyway, im getting it by this week. cheers. =)
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Why not delay it for a few months and get a 2011 manufactured model? Ull be saving a few thousand in resale value.
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I dont really look at resale value in buying cars. Thats not my priority, if not camry will be my choice now. Anyway, thanks for the advice ya, cybermaster. =)

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QUOTE(ngfamily @ Nov 30 2010, 11:27 PM)
I dont really look at resale value in buying cars. Thats not my priority, if not camry will be my choice now. Anyway, thanks for the advice ya, cybermaster. =)
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Not asking u to change the brand. Am asking u to look into delaying the purchase till u get a 2011 unit. If you can save a few thousand on resale value by waiting about 3 months more, you wouldnt do it? U must be a very rich guy.
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Tradeoff between getting the car late evening today(mebbe 2molo) or gain a few thousand bucks more in 5 years later. I choose the first one. lol. Im not a rich guyz la, enough to support the family only. Thanks for the compliment. =)
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QUOTE(ngfamily @ Dec 1 2010, 11:23 AM)
Tradeoff between getting the car late evening today(mebbe 2molo) or gain a few thousand bucks more in 5 years later. I choose the first one. lol. Im not a rich guyz la, enough to support the family only. Thanks for the compliment. =)
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That's the reason why car companies continue to make sales with year end units. If everybody thought the way i did, car companies would be offering more discounts for year end purchases just like what happens in the US year after year. Consumer knowledge is very low in Malaysia.
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http://www.motortrader.com.my/Cars/NewsHea...t---Models.aspx

Despite its official launch in July 2010, it only sold and registered 153 units in October. Total number of Sonata's sold since its launch is only 505. Compared to 925 units of the much older Toyota Camry sold in July alone and 9807 units sold since January 2010.

If only Hyundai had lowered the price more, im sure the Sonata would have done better.

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Just saw a red color one in my college. damn red color is ugly..
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QUOTE(ngfamily @ Nov 29 2010, 07:11 AM)
Bro, Im sure u wont regret for the waiting when the cars come. I waited for nearly 4months until nearly give up (going for camry). BUt everytime after i went back from the showroom (bang the SA) I will change my mind again. Its the company problem, not the car itself. Anyway, im getting it by this week. cheers. =)
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Hmm looks like I do not have to wait any further..Nissan sales person had contacted me saying that my car have been allocated and can collect by next week..Hmm Hyundai almost 4 months but car not allocated and still asking me to wait..Nissan 2 weeks can get the car..I m wondering what is Hyundai Sime Darby doing..u are losing customers because of your unprofessional service..when u can't deliver do not promise people 3 months..I personally do not have problem with the car..Truthfully I prefer the Sonata more than the Teana but the wait was just unbearable..
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QUOTE(jimmynhs @ Dec 2 2010, 06:38 PM)
Hmm looks like I do not have to wait any further..Nissan sales person had contacted me saying that my car have been allocated and can collect by next week..Hmm Hyundai almost 4 months but car not allocated and still asking me to wait..Nissan 2 weeks can get the car..I m wondering what is Hyundai Sime Darby doing..u are losing customers because of your unprofessional service..when u can't deliver do not promise people 3 months..I personally do not have problem with the car..Truthfully I prefer the Sonata more than the Teana but the wait was just unbearable..
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Whats the interest rate like for both? Any freebies or promo's?
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Whats the interest rate like for both? Any freebies or promo's?
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Sonata was quoted at 3.75% from Public Bank..Nissan Teana they said was 2 something..
Anyway am not taking loan..Hyundai got trade in offer of extra rm3000 and another rm2000 from the sale person personally..
As for nissan no freebies..they said the price now at rm168000 for the 2.5 V6 was already a promo price..
the price would increase by next year which i do not know whether is true or not..Anyway don't really care now i just want my car fast..

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guys, is this sonata 2011 is equivalent to hyundai equus 2011 ?

check out this awesome video about the equus here by this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22O5QnSLdeE

damn nice weh
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guys , how long do i have to wait if book one unit?

is there any discount?
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QUOTE(izwanz @ Dec 2 2010, 10:00 PM)
guys, is this sonata 2011 is equivalent to hyundai equus 2011 ?

check out this awesome video about the equus here by this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22O5QnSLdeE

damn nice weh
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nope. equus is their higher standard car
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QUOTE(xVince @ Dec 2 2010, 11:16 PM)
nope. equus is their higher standard car
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the hyundai sedan lineup is like this:accent,elantra,sonata,azera,genesis then only equus..
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Put me in the list too. I booked my Sonata 2.0 H/S White on 15/10/2010..can't imagine when i drive it..siok!!
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lol alot of empty promises thrown here n there... i went check out hyundai for fun and commented on their delay..

to my surprise the SA say if i book today .. will definitely get car by Early Jan 2011...

lol...
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QUOTE(megat89 @ Dec 2 2010, 11:28 PM)
the hyundai sedan lineup is like this:accent,elantra,sonata,azera,genesis then only equus..
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My dad said he'll be collecting his Sonata today, booked maybe 3 months ago.
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HEllo guys , is sonata worth to get?

how bout 2.4L those?

low resale value? sad.gif

really like this car but damn worry bout its quality and resale value like the previous hyundai models
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QUOTE(kahjye @ Dec 3 2010, 01:09 PM)
HEllo guys , is sonata worth to get?

how bout 2.4L those?

low resale value? sad.gif

really like this car but damn worry bout its quality and resale value like the previous hyundai models
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Sonata resale will be low as usual because demand is low. Resale values are determined by demand. But those who buy the Sonata accept that the resale value will be low. Quality not sure. Only time will tell.
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Then i will skip this choice sad.gif
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The sonata is here! Nice white ( = Havent sat in it, But it looks really nice.
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The sonata is here! Nice white ( = Havent sat in it, But it looks really nice.
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Juz collected the car last nite. The car is really awesome!! Can see that quite a number of people glance at my car. A malay guyz even praise and ask the price of the car in SHELL station. lol. I got 2.77% from cimb bank.
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QUOTE(ngfamily @ Dec 4 2010, 09:38 PM)
Juz collected the car last nite. The car is really awesome!! Can see that quite a number of people glance at my car. A malay guyz even praise and ask the price of the car in SHELL station. lol. I got 2.77% from cimb bank.
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That's the case with any new launch from the main manufacturers. This month i heard that many manufacturers have dropped the bank interest rates. Kia is offering only 2.7% for the Forte now. Nasim is offering between 1.4 - 2.6% for their models.

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Hello, i wonder how long for me to get the car if i book one unit now?
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Hello, i wonder how long for me to get the car if i book one unit now?
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Deliveries always depend on the branch. Some branches with better 'connections' will get cars faster while others will get them later. Best is to always scout around for the best deals. Anyway, no point buying any car now. In about 3 weeks time your car will be 1 year old already.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 6 2010, 08:30 AM)
Deliveries always depend on the branch. Some branches with better 'connections' will get cars faster while others will get them later. Best is to always scout around for the best deals. Anyway, no point buying any car now. In about 3 weeks time your car will be 1 year old already.
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Oh, lets say if i book on january , how many days or month i roughly need to wait?
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Oh, lets say if i book on january , how many days or month i roughly need to wait?
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Not sure la bro. U need to check with the various branches. It could be about 3 months. But booking in January doesnt mean ure getting a 2011 unit. U must make sure u get a 2011 manufactured unit which will normally come only around March or April.
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Wah...does it make any difference? I tot as long as ita registered in 2011 is ok adi
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Wah...does it make any difference? I tot as long as ita registered in 2011 is ok adi
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Car age is determined by the YEAR OF MANUFACTURE not the registration date. So even if you register a car in March 2011 or November 2011, your car age is the same. If you register a 2010 model in January 2011, your car is already considered 1 year old at the time of purchase. Why do u think there are many year end sales.

If you wanna buy cars best time to purchase would be between March - Aug. Before March ure still stuck with the previous year model and after Aug its not worth buying due to the loss in resale value.

If ure selling then best time would be around Oct - Dec since u maximise usage before selling. But in December 2010 most car traders will already be taking in cars with 2011 pricing.
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4 to 5 months waiting time in the case of Kah Bintang JLN Ipoh. Glenmarie maybe faster according to my frenz. Personally i waited for 4.5 months but feel worth for the waiting though.
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My dad is thinking if the 2.0T will be imported or not. Very interested on that.
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It is a very nice car, I test drive it and like it alot. Once you can get pass the low second hand value mental hurdle, it is one of the best value for money D segment car to get now.

if you are a shallow person like me who thinks that appearance matter most, this is the car to get biggrin.gif


Added on December 7, 2010, 10:32 pmIt is a very nice car, I test drive it and like it alot. Once you can get pass the low second hand value mental hurdle, it is one of the best value for money D segment car to get now.

if you are a shallow person like me who thinks that appearance matter most, this is the car to get biggrin.gif

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test drove the 2.0 HS version. everything is perfect. Can't comment much on the handling cuz camry is equally numb. But, hey... it's a comfy car and not a sporty car.

at that price, this is the only car with traction control. Ppl like me, safety is important and the 5stars ncap certainly appetizing.

Only only if you can get over the poor resale value.. everything is perfect
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this car is locally assembled?

how is the fit and finish in the car?
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test drove the 2.0 HS version. everything is perfect. Can't comment much on the handling cuz camry is equally numb. But, hey... it's a comfy car and not a sporty car. at that price, this is the only car with traction control. Ppl like me, safety is important and the 5stars ncap certainly appetizing.
Only only if you can get over the poor resale value.. everything is perfect
Except for resale value everything is perfect? U obviously have not owned Korean before. Have u test driven other cars as well? biggrin.gif
But in saying that, Koreans have improved alot these past 2 years.

At that price, its the only car with traction control? Do u know what is traction control in the first place? Have u heard about the Electronic Stability Control on the 1.6L Forte? What about the VSC in the Civic?

For your info, traction control only controls wheel spin using brakes and a power cut off system if required. An ESC/VSC system does not deal with wheel spin, but total car control. The system not only monitors the wheels, but also your steering wheel, the pitch of your car to one side or another, acceleration and skidding.

So the ESC system on the Forte, Civic and many other cheaper cars is actually a better system on paper.
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It is a fully imported car from korea. Personally i recommend you test drive the sonata to compare with other same sedan car(mebbe nissan teana?). I feel relief because i did not change my mind to camry due to the long waiting period. Sonata yf is way way way better than the previous sonata in terms of performance, appearance and stability. I am a hyundai elantra owner previously, so i dare to say hyundai really improve tremendously in these few years. Its juz that the lousy distribution company and low resale value that become the obstacle to potential buyers. With this new sonata, seriously I never fail to get admirers when i go anyway. =)
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QUOTE(ngfamily @ Dec 12 2010, 01:41 PM)
It is a fully imported car from korea. Personally i recommend you test drive the sonata to compare with other same sedan car(mebbe nissan teana?).  I feel relief because i did not change my mind to camry due to the long waiting period. Sonata yf is way way way better than the previous sonata in terms of performance, appearance and stability. I am a hyundai elantra owner previously, so i dare to say hyundai really improve tremendously in these few years. Its juz that the lousy distribution company and low resale value that become the obstacle to potential buyers. With this new sonata, seriously I never fail to get admirers when i go anyway. =)
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So u have never owned a Toyota before eh? Your previous car was a Elantra? No wonder the Sonata feels like a Porsche for you la. biggrin.gif

Anyway, like i said before. Ull get the looks now for a few months since the car is new (as it is with every new car). Even the Alza got the looks when it was first launched. rclxms.gif

Anyway, since u already got the Sonata then just enjoy it. I rather wait for the replacement Camry.
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If u ask a Sonata owner surely he will sing praises of the car la. If u want some feedback on the Sonata go to the Nissan Teana thread. There are some comments there.
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Yeah. I dun own a vios before but my mother is using her vios (2003 model). I dun feel the sonata is like a porsche, dats ur personal thought on my words. Improve tremendously = feels like porsche. Salute to your interpretion. lol. Its juz worth for the value in my opinion.
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Anyone out there can tell me whats the difference between 2.0HS and 2.4HS other than those stated in the brochure?

I've tested both cars and I see the leather seats, steering and finishing seems to be better in 2.4HS.

Any other things I've missed out?
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Test drove that car yesterday, it felt so smooth compared to 2007 Civic..

but the suspension a bit hard la..

and it looks soo big, even bigger than camry, but when I check at toyota.com.my, it says the camry is longer..
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 12 2010, 02:46 PM)
So u have never owned a Toyota before eh? Your previous car was a Elantra? No wonder the Sonata feels like a Porsche for you la.  biggrin.gif

Anyway, like i said before. Ull get the looks now for a few months since the car is new (as it is with every new car). Even the Alza got the looks when it was first launched.  rclxms.gif

Anyway, since u already got the Sonata then just enjoy it. I rather wait for the replacement Camry.
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Yes. I agree with you bro. Sonata is still new so everyone is looking at it. But however its a nice car (exterior) ok car (performance). smile.gif
I also had a few good Toyota cars now (Hilux & Unser), nothing serious happened (only the Hilux braking system pissed me off nearly getting me killed). I would like to try out something new. once i was a Hyundai SA before few years back. I know its technology, crash rating. All actually not bad. I was just thinking to wait for its new develop engine to be announced first before getting one. Now I got it --> the Sonata. smile.gif

However what I reply here is just my 2 cents. No hard feeling. smile.gif

QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 12 2010, 02:47 PM)
If u ask a Sonata owner surely he will sing praises of the car la. If u want some feedback on the Sonata go to the Nissan Teana thread. There are some comments there.
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Bro, actually it is really personal perception and opinion. I have booked mine and getting the sonata soon. I tested all whatever car brands with similar segment and range which nobody could be so free like me.and as I told you I do still own few T brand cars now. smile.gif But at last I have decided to go for Sonata. Why? because I like it. It's simple (not because I am rich, I am not rich at all).

FYI, every brand has its good range of cars, e.g. Toyota has Camry, Vios, Altis, the rest Toyota range are not so popular. Honda has Civic, Accord and City, others are still not popular. As for Hyundai, Getz, Matrix, Sonata, Elantra is proved to be good cars but others are still not popular but only depends on personal afford ability.

I would not say Hyundai is the best after i bought a Hyundai car. I like it because I know what benefits it has, I do like Camry and Accord as well but I do not like some part of its interior & exterior. So I gave it up.

FOR ALL CAR PURCHASERS IN MALAYSIA : Resale value wise, erm.....i never wanna think about it. Every after purchased a car, the value drops no matter what brand. Everyone of you could buy a motortrader magazine, find the 3 brands I mentioned above, see how much it dropped for how many years. Find the percentage, actually all are similar no matter what brand. But famous brand will get another few more thousands for no doubts. smile.gif

I always wanted to think positively
1) Do i really need to sell my car off after the loan settlement?
2) Think what you can get (how many things you can gain) from driving your car is better than calculate how much you lost from buying a car.
3) Car is always a liability at first. Use the liability to generate other assets for you. Is this thought would calm you down? smile.gif
4) Thinking of losing money = losing money, thinking of how to earn more money = earn money

Just my 2 cents guys.

QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 3 2011, 07:13 PM)
Test drove that car yesterday, it felt so smooth compared to 2007 Civic..

but the suspension a bit hard la..

and it looks soo big, even bigger than camry, but when I check at toyota.com.my, it says the camry is longer..
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Yes. Because they are using sport suspension and don't you feel that the Sonata is a bit lowered and no problem on the cornering? Plus SD is giving out Hankook tyres that not really comfort enough for smooth road driving. They should have changed it to others. hmmm...Actually Camry is longer because of its boot volume. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Mycypro @ Jan 4 2011, 06:01 AM)
FOR ALL CAR PURCHASERS IN MALAYSIA : Resale value wise, erm.....i never wanna think about it. Every after purchased a car, the value drops no matter what brand. Everyone of you could buy a motortrader magazine, find the 3 brands I mentioned above, see how much it dropped for how many years. Find the percentage, actually all are similar no matter what brand. But famous brand will get another few more thousands for no doubts. smile.gif
The difference is actually quite a lot. For ive given this example previously. Of course its 2 different car segments but this is just for discussion purposes:

Toyota Vios 1.5E model purchase price RM74,700. 2010 resale price is RM 45K (drop of 40%)
Hyundai Sonata 2.0L model purchase price approx Rm 118K. 2010 resale price is RM 28K (drop of 76%)

So its not a few thousand. The difference is only small if the car is between 1-4yrs old as most cars resale value drops about the same during that period. But after that, you will start seeing the difference.

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 4 2011, 10:34 AM)
The difference is actually quite a lot. For ive given this example previously. Of course its 2 different car segments but this is just for discussion purposes:

Toyota Vios 1.5E model purchase price RM74,700. 2010 resale price is RM 45K (drop of 40%)
Hyundai Sonata 2.0L model purchase price approx Rm 118K. 2010 resale price is RM 28K (drop of 76%)

So its not a few thousand. The difference is only small if the car is between 1-4yrs old as most cars resale value drops about the same during that period. But after that, you will start seeing the difference.
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so is the Sonata YF a good deal? good for me, better than accord/camry well except the low resale value?

no probs with the car?

cause my moms old 2002 Hyundai Matrix and Grandpa's 2004 Kia Spectra got lotsa problems..
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QUOTE(seancorr @ Jan 4 2011, 11:26 AM)
Are u quoting for both cars registered in the same year?
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yes sorry. Forgot to indicate that both cars are 2003 models.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 4 2011, 08:43 PM)
so is the Sonata YF a good deal? good for me, better than accord/camry well except the low resale value?

no probs with the car?

cause my moms old 2002 Hyundai Matrix and Grandpa's 2004 Kia Spectra got lotsa problems..
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Reliability in the long run we can't say for sure since its a new model. But for manufacturing defects...I think all cars even BMW's will have some. Can't run from that...just gonna be lucky if u do happen to get a good condition car from the factory.


QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 5 2011, 09:46 AM)
yes sorry. Forgot to indicate that both cars are 2003 models.
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Ah ok. Well the previous generation Sonatas were kinda crap if u ask me. Even u and me wun wanna buy one haha but the current gen Sonata might fetch a better price after 5 years unless of course Hyundai did not fit in proper quality electronics/parts on board during manufacturing process.
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How much interest you guys got for the YF?
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lets face it, if you are concern about resale value you should not be looking at Hyundai.

You really have to ask yourself what is your priority, you can't have everything.
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Hi guys
some of the sonata i saw on the road, 2.0 with black roof, are those high spec 2.0? is that a moon roof, or just black paint ?
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QUOTE(Chester @ Jan 5 2011, 10:46 PM)
How much interest you guys got for the YF?
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I got 2.67

QUOTE(GreenJellyBean @ Jan 6 2011, 10:59 AM)
lets face it, if you are concern about resale value you should not be looking at Hyundai.

You really have to ask yourself what is your priority, you can't have everything.
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yes. That's right. Like the car so much but concern about the resale value is really not meaningful in life. I prefer, like it then buy it except not affordable. I like BMW, but i can't afford to get one now. smile.gif

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Hi guys
some of the sonata i saw on the road, 2.0 with black roof, are those high spec 2.0? is that a moon roof, or just black paint ?
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2.0 High Spec and 2.4 has tempered glass sunroof and moon roof. hard to differentiate in black color because hard to see whether it is tempered glass or black paint. But one thing im sure is 2.0 standard is black paint. kekeke..smile.gif
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damn i like this new sonata yf so much..used to like camry and accord, but sonata yf steal the light..cant afford it though coz im a student...but my brother already placed the order few months ago, dont know he already got it or not..

i think this sonata resale value is going to be better than the previous hyundai cars..plus this car win the executive car award in COTY 2010...if u really care about resale value, go buy volkswagen men...lol...

look at the picture below and tell me u are not mesmerize with this car... laugh.gif

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Very nice exterior right , have potential on good modification . Looking forward to the bodykits that will be available for this ride
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hi everyone,

wonder is anyone have any feedback after using sonata for certain period ?

anyone have any link or does can anyone upload the service estimate cost for sonata 2.0 high spec?

i have personally test drive accord, camry & also sonata....
comparing spec and feature... guess sonata will be a good choice.... (with the selling point of 5 years warranty).

just wan to find out how much is the maintenance cost and as well any issue so far since this new model ......

thanks
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Justplaced my booking for a sonata today, silver! While out having drinks with my friends earlier,they said that the Hyundai sonata engine is not very fuel efficient/economical, anyone has an opinion on this?

second fun question, is silver the right choice? or white more yeng? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Phonzy @ Jan 20 2011, 04:45 AM)
Justplaced my booking for a sonata today, silver! While out having drinks with my friends earlier,they said that the Hyundai sonata engine is not very fuel efficient/economical, anyone has an opinion on this?

second fun question, is silver the right choice? or white more yeng? tongue.gif
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yaya... will like to know the fuel status also .... i heard its about 25 cens/km....

White sure more yeng la.... but when come to maintain ... guess u will get crazy about it .... my 1st car is white ... after that ... i banned white ... except i have a maid that wash my car everyday ... then i will reconsider white .. tongue.gif

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Yeah heard the fuel consumption very bad...rm100 for 400km
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if u just book, better cancel la
after the new camry launched april this yr, the value n menjunam kebwah

then u will cry under the tree
take the advise

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Please don't simply speculate. Anyhow, the new Camry 2.0 for sure don't have the panoramic roof & over 160hp output engine (benchmark from latest Altis dual vvt-i engine). So the Camry design wise better be hell looking good than Sonata, the brand superiority (aka resale value) 'song' is getting bored to modern Malaysians.
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now im confused even more...new camry? damn...
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hahaha..... new camry ... ??? serious ?? any link to show ?

but i know that honda accord is coming out new facelift on March
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QUOTE(Phonzy @ Jan 20 2011, 11:01 AM)
Yeah heard the fuel consumption very bad...rm100 for 400km
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you sure your friend quote the 2010 sonata?

because i know rm 100 for 400km is for the sonata ef 2.0 and 2.4 year 2004 model.

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QUOTE(Phonzy @ Jan 20 2011, 04:45 AM)
Justplaced my booking for a sonata today, silver! While out having drinks with my friends earlier,they said that the Hyundai sonata engine is not very fuel efficient/economical, anyone has an opinion on this?

second fun question, is silver the right choice? or white more yeng? tongue.gif
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white is better..
look so exclusive.. thumbup.gif
silver is too casual la... hmm.gif
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white is better.. 
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anyone got info about the fuel consumption ?
besides, can anyone help to upload or send me the link for the service maintenance charges chart ? 5k (km), 10k (km), 15k (km), 20k (km), 25k (km), 30k (km) and so on ????

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anyone got info about the fuel consumption ?
besides, can anyone help to upload or send me the link for the service maintenance charges chart ? 5k (km), 10k (km), 15k (km), 20k (km), 25k (km), 30k (km) and so on ????
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Maintenance charts are never accurate la. Its just another sales gimmick. You will always see very low figures for maintenance especially for Korean makes. But in reality its always high. Ask those who have been maintaining Korean makes at authorised SC's. Its generally higher and spare parts more expensive compared to Japanese brands.
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Maintenance charts are never accurate la. Its just another sales gimmick. You will always see very low figures for maintenance especially for Korean makes. But in reality its always high. Ask those who have been maintaining Korean makes at authorised SC's. Its generally higher and spare parts more expensive compared to Japanese brands.
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oh.... izzit ... omg ....

any sonata owner can advice ?????
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oh.... izzit ... omg ....

any sonata owner can advice ?????
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Only those who have maintained Korean makes for some time will be able to advise you. No point asking new owners since theire cars are under warranty and probably still free maintenence. Ive had Korean makes in my family. Thats why i know.
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Only those who have maintained Korean makes for some time will be able to advise you. No point asking new owners since theire cars are under warranty and probably still free maintenence. Ive had Korean makes in my family. Thats why i know.
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What i mean is normal service maintenance.... since it have 5 years or 300k warranty .... guess no need to ask about the parts issue... tongue.gif
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What i mean is normal service maintenance.... since it have 5 years or 300k warranty .... guess no need to ask about the parts issue... tongue.gif
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300K warranty is against defects not against wear and tear. Nobody is talking about defects or quality issues here. I am also refering to servicing.

What ive seen is that Korean parts dont last as long as the Japs. Thus requiring you to change more frequently. But some are saying this new generation of Korean makes have better quality standards. We'll only know in a few years time.
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good looking car for me..nearest with Mazda design..but too big for small size people..will go look avante when available in our showroom..


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Yes. I agree with you bro. Sonata is still new so everyone is looking at it. But however its a nice car (exterior) ok car (performance). smile.gif
I also had a few good Toyota cars now (Hilux & Unser), nothing serious happened (only the Hilux braking system pissed me off nearly getting me killed). I  would like to try out something new. once i was a Hyundai SA before few years back. I know its technology, crash rating. All actually not bad. I was just thinking to wait for its new develop engine to be announced first before getting one. Now I got it --> the Sonata. smile.gif

However what I reply here is just my 2 cents. No hard feeling. smile.gif
Bro, actually it is really personal perception and opinion. I have booked mine and getting the sonata soon. I tested all whatever car brands with similar segment and range which nobody could be so free like me.and as I told you I do still own few T brand cars now. smile.gif But at last I have decided to go for Sonata. Why? because I like it. It's simple (not because I am rich, I am not rich at all).

FYI, every brand has its good range of cars, e.g. Toyota has Camry, Vios, Altis, the rest Toyota range are not so popular. Honda has Civic, Accord and City, others are still not popular. As for Hyundai, Getz, Matrix, Sonata, Elantra is proved to be good cars but others are still not popular but only depends on personal afford ability.

I would not say Hyundai is the best after i bought a Hyundai car. I like it because I know what benefits it has, I do like Camry and Accord as well but I do not like some part of its interior & exterior. So I gave it up.

FOR ALL CAR PURCHASERS IN MALAYSIA : Resale value wise, erm.....i never wanna think about it. Every after purchased a car, the value drops no matter what brand. Everyone of you could buy a motortrader magazine, find the 3 brands I mentioned above, see how much it dropped for how many years. Find the percentage, actually all are similar no matter what brand. But famous brand will get another few more thousands for no doubts. smile.gif

I always wanted to think positively
1) Do i really need to sell my car off after the loan settlement?
2) Think what you can get (how many things you can gain) from driving your car is better than calculate how much you lost from buying a car.
3) Car is always a liability at first. Use the liability to generate other assets for you. Is this thought would calm you down? smile.gif
4) Thinking of losing money = losing money, thinking of how to earn more money = earn money

Just my 2 cents guys.
Yes. Because they are using sport suspension and don't you feel that the Sonata is a bit lowered and no problem on the cornering? Plus SD is giving out Hankook tyres that not really comfort enough for smooth road driving. They should have changed it to others. hmmm...Actually Camry is longer because of its boot volume. smile.gif
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u good a point..same like me..especially no 4)..thumb up thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(ajul @ Jan 25 2011, 04:29 PM)
good looking car for me..nearest with Mazda design..but too big for small size people..will go look avante when available in our showroom..


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u good a point..same like me..especially no 4)..thumb up thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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The difference in resale value for cars above 5yrs old is very big between the japs and the Koreans. Dont look at cars less than 5yrs old and say that the resale value is more or less the same.
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hyundai sonata vs toyota camry , which?
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hyundai sonata vs toyota camry , which?
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8litre/100km on highway
10litre/100km on city driving
But, can up to 14litre/100km when traffic jam
There is an indicator on the screen to show these figure.

In conclusion, depends on ur driving style. You can always switch on the eco driving signal to monitor ur fuel consumption.

Full tank around RM120(RON 95) can last for about 550km.

QUOTE(xVince @ Jan 21 2011, 01:40 PM)
you sure your friend quote the 2010 sonata?

because i know rm 100 for 400km is for the sonata ef 2.0 and 2.4 year 2004 model.
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QUOTE(ngfamily @ Jan 27 2011, 04:15 PM)
Full tank around RM120(RON 95) can last for about 550km.
Always use km/L to gauge fuel consumption. Your 'full tank' is surely not full thus the '550km' is also not accurate. Your full tank is 70L so that would mean approx RM 135 not RM 120.

I would assume your 550km mileage per full tank is for city drive which is actually not very economical.
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The difference in resale value for cars above 5yrs old is very big between the japs and the Koreans. Dont look at cars less than 5yrs old and say that the resale value is more or less the same.
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If resale value is such a big deal, why don't people wait a year or two and buy a used car? Let the original owner take the depreciation. 2008 Camry 2.0 is RM120k, brand new price is closer to RM148k. 2008 Sonata is around RM80k, brand new price was RM120k

If you really want the latest and greatest then you have to deal with the extra money.

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Jan 27 2011, 05:41 PM)
If resale value is such a big deal, why don't people wait a year or two and buy a used car? Let the original owner take the depreciation. 2008 Camry 2.0 is RM120k, brand new price is closer to RM148k. 2008 Sonata is around RM80k, brand new price was RM120k

If you really want the latest and greatest then you have to deal with the extra money.
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Yes if resale value is a concern then taking a 1 or 2 yr old car is best. But then again there's always suspicions as to why the original owner would want to sell after such a short period. Thats wht usually keeps buyers away. Sometimes its easier to sell a 5yr old car than a 1 yr old one.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 27 2011, 04:25 PM)
Always use km/L to gauge fuel consumption. Your 'full tank' is surely not full thus the '550km' is also not accurate. Your full tank is 70L so that would mean approx RM 135 not RM 120.

I would assume your 550km mileage per full tank is for city drive which is actually not very economical.
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Correction to your assumption, I always left 50km of capacity before i pump petrol. There is a indicator in sonata to determine how long distance you can go before your car insufficient of petrol(in case you dunno). So, RM135 for 600km in this case.
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QUOTE(ngfamily @ Jan 27 2011, 10:55 PM)
Correction to your assumption, I always left 50km of capacity before i pump petrol. There is a indicator in sonata to determine how long distance you can go before your car insufficient of petrol(in case you dunno). So, RM135 for 600km in this case.
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When the indicator left 50km, did the yellow fuel sign light up?
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QUOTE(ngfamily @ Jan 27 2011, 10:55 PM)
Correction to your assumption, I always left 50km of capacity before i pump petrol. There is a indicator in sonata to determine how long distance you can go before your car insufficient of petrol(in case you dunno). So, RM135 for 600km in this case.
So 71L for 600km mileage which adds up to 8.45km/L. But i guess the poor fuel consumption readings could be due to the fact that its a heavy car and the engine still hasnt broken in yet.
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QUOTE(ngfamily @ Jan 27 2011, 10:55 PM)
Correction to your assumption, I always left 50km of capacity before i pump petrol. There is a indicator in sonata to determine how long distance you can go before your car insufficient of petrol(in case you dunno). So, RM135 for 600km in this case.
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bro, pure city drive in jam? thats like 23 - 24 cents /km..
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 4 2011, 10:34 AM)
The difference is actually quite a lot. For ive given this example previously. Of course its 2 different car segments but this is just for discussion purposes:

Toyota Vios 1.5E model purchase price RM74,700. 2010 resale price is RM 45K (drop of 40%)
Hyundai Sonata 2.0L model purchase price approx Rm 118K. 2010 resale price is RM 28K (drop of 76%)

So its not a few thousand. The difference is only small if the car is between 1-4yrs old as most cars resale value drops about the same during that period. But after that, you will start seeing the difference.
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sorry for replying at the old post, but this is so misleading.

How on earth can you quote a Vios vS a D Segment car? Vios has the best resale value among all japanese car!!! this is so unfair. try altis or camry, that is nearer, though i have to say the sonata for 2003 is really bad value. Well, actually, perdana also about the same %, so ppl should stop buying inspira?

and why on earth are you keep on coming to this thread to remind about new camry? you T salesman?

just out of curious. ppl are here to share their booking list of sonata, and you are here to talk about camry? hey hey, wrong thread hey.
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 6 2011, 10:59 PM)
sorry for replying at the old post, but this is so misleading.

How on earth can you quote a Vios vS a  D Segment car?  Vios has the best resale value among all japanese car!!! this is so unfair. try altis or camry, that is nearer, though i have to say the sonata for 2003 is really bad value. Well, actually, perdana also about the same %, so ppl should stop buying inspira?

and why on earth are you keep on coming to this thread to remind about new camry? you T salesman?

just out of curious. ppl are here to share their booking list of sonata, and you are here to talk about camry? hey hey, wrong thread hey.
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after read back all those old post, i also felt the same..... support u TurboCharged!!!!



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QUOTE(y2kming @ Feb 7 2011, 10:36 AM)
after read back all those old post, i also felt the same..... support u TurboCharged!!!!
Yea i just share my opinions sometimes without checking the topic. But facts are still facts.

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Camry is a boring machine, I had own it 2 years now and just place my booking for 2.4YF last week, trade-in my camry.
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Looks like uncle wanna have some fun yeah! more stylo now leh.. Camry to Sonata.
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QUOTE(ketweng @ Feb 22 2011, 09:30 PM)
Camry is a boring machine, I had own it 2 years now and just place my booking for 2.4YF last week, trade-in my camry.
U bought a Camry in 2008/2009 and u traded it in for a Sonata last week? Somehow i find this very hard to believe unless the car was an accident car. Anyway, im sure you have your reasons to your post.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 23 2011, 08:17 AM)
U bought a Camry in 2008/2009 and u traded it in for a Sonata last week? Somehow i find this very hard to believe unless the car was an accident car. Anyway, im sure you have your reasons to your post.
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Not accident la... Just wanted to upgrade to 2.4L machine, test drive both 2.4 model and de YF indeed had more response... Comparing to the specs, YF is more equipped, yet cheaper, and its not boring, you can't see it every where on de road at least 1 year (probably more)... Dont care on de built quality coz won't going to drive it for the rest of my life. Make sense now?
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QUOTE(ketweng @ Feb 23 2011, 09:34 AM)
Not accident la... Just wanted to upgrade to 2.4L machine, test drive both 2.4 model and de YF indeed had more response... Comparing to the specs, YF is more equipped, yet cheaper, and its not boring, you can't see it every where on de road at least 1 year (probably more)... Dont care on de built quality coz won't going to drive it for the rest of my life. Make sense now?
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New Sonata something like design of Concept Car
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QUOTE(ketweng @ Feb 23 2011, 09:34 AM)
Not accident la... Just wanted to upgrade to 2.4L machine, test drive both 2.4 model and de YF indeed had more response... Comparing to the specs, YF is more equipped, yet cheaper, and its not boring, you can't see it every where on de road at least 1 year (probably more)... Dont care on de built quality coz won't going to drive it for the rest of my life. Make sense now?
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Not really. Saying the car is boring is not acceptable since long before you bought in 2009 there were already many Camry's on the road. This was a known fact and yet you bought it.

Yes Sonata is better looking and has comparable specs but the ppl that buy Camry's are usually the more mature and older generation which are not easily swayed by these cosmetic things.

RM11K cheaper will not be enough to sway Camry owners. Did u know that Camry actually maintained their original sale numbers despite the introduction of the Sonata? The Sonata hasnt been seen much on the road despite being launched bout 7 months ago.

Dont care bout build quality? if u say u dont care bout resale value then its acceptable but everybody cares bout build quality. If u didnt care then u would be driving a Proton not a Sonata.

I still doubt very much that you are truly a Camry owner who decided to switch to a Sonata within 2 years of purchasing a Camry.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 23 2011, 10:20 AM)
Not really. Saying the car is boring is not acceptable since long before you bought in 2009 there were already many Camry's on the road. This was a known fact and yet you bought it.

Yes Sonata is better looking and has comparable specs but the ppl that buy Camry's are usually the more mature and older generation which are not easily swayed by these cosmetic things.

RM11K cheaper will not be enough to sway Camry owners. Did u know that Camry actually maintained their original sale numbers despite the introduction of the Sonata? The Sonata hasnt been seen much on the road despite being launched bout 7 months ago.

Dont care bout build quality? if u say u dont care bout resale value then its acceptable but everybody cares bout build quality. If u didnt care then u would be driving a Proton not a Sonata.

I still doubt very much that you are truly a Camry owner who decided to switch to a Sonata within 2 years of purchasing a Camry.
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It was still fresh in year 2008 (mine is 2008), I decided to go for camry after the launch of accord as I was comparing both (personally I like the Camry more). changing to Sonata doesn't mean the camry is a lousy one, otherwise I wonldn't bought it. I have been driving toyotas all these years since my very first job, its kind of getting bored you know. Since Korea Hyundai Kia had been doing great job these years (as everyone were saying), I would love to have that change.

Don't get me wrong of stepping the bad of Toyota, i mean they are doing all great cars, with this price range I believe there are some standard on their quality, so I may not really look so deep into that. I don;t need to make you believe anything, well this is forum, just sharing our thought.
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I just called the SA... they say now the 3k discount against the sales price is for the 2010 model but if want 2011 model must wait till April before they can confirm if there's any discount being offered.

Sigh.. so nearly decided to book the car this weekend and now this setback.
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I just called the SA... they say now the 3k discount against the sales price is for the 2010 model but if want 2011 model must wait till April before they can confirm if there's any discount being offered.

Sigh.. so nearly decided to book the car this weekend and now this setback.
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Try another SA or dealer/distributor, as far as I know the RM 3k overtrade discount is applicable to 2011 model as well.
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Try another SA or dealer/distributor, as far as I know the RM 3k overtrade discount is applicable to 2011 model as well.
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QUOTE(vectorian @ Feb 24 2011, 09:49 PM)
ooo.. Thanks Ben83.. will surely check around then. Any particular ones to recommend?
Yes i too heard that the 3K overtrade is for current models as well. The earlier idea was to push off 2010 stocks but now they wanna increase sales for the 2011 model. Check out dealers who do not have 2010 stocks. They will still offer the overtrade for their current models.

Im quite sure the place u checked had some 2010 stocks so they were trying to con u into buying the 2010 stock by telling u there is no overtrade for the 2011 models.

Always take your time and check out at least 10 outlets before purchasing.
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It is just another month to April, you will definitely be getting it after April if you book now smile.gif
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Yeah I need it by April cos I need to return the company car.. lol

Thinking of getting them to put it in writing on the delivery timeframe smile.gif


Added on February 25, 2011, 8:43 pmJust to update everyone... it seems the 3k discount is also valid for the 2011 model arriving in April.

Just booked the 2.0HS this afternoon... HURRAY!

I hope I can handle the waiting period.. hahaha

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QUOTE(vectorian @ Feb 25 2011, 10:35 AM)
Yeah I need it by April cos I need to return the company car.. lol

Thinking of getting them to put it in writing on the delivery timeframe smile.gif


Added on February 25, 2011, 8:43 pmJust to update everyone... it seems the 3k discount is also valid for the 2011 model arriving in April.

Just booked the 2.0HS this afternoon... HURRAY!

I hope I can handle the waiting period.. hahaha
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Hey, guys just wondering if u have heard that Hyundai Technician is not compitant in solving the Sonata YF issue while the spare parts is taking 2-3 weeks to arrive? I got this quote through a friend where his mechanic got encounter that Hyundai seeking them to help to checkon the electronic issue while Hyundai could not manage it.


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Hey, guys just wondering if u have heard that Hyundai Technician is not compitant in solving the Sonata YF issue while the spare parts is taking 2-3 weeks to arrive? I got this quote through a friend where his mechanic got encounter that Hyundai seeking them to help to checkon the electronic issue while Hyundai could not manage it.
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I am really worried that the car shall hang in workshop for days and need to take LRT to work.

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QUOTE(cremant @ Feb 28 2011, 12:09 PM)
Hey, guys just wondering if u have heard that Hyundai Technician is not compitant in solving the Sonata YF issue while the spare parts is taking 2-3 weeks to arrive? I got this quote through a friend where his mechanic got encounter that Hyundai seeking them to help to checkon the electronic issue while Hyundai could not manage it.


Added on February 28, 2011, 12:10 pm

I am really worried that the car shall hang in workshop for days and need to take LRT to work.
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I suggest you direct this question to the numerous Sonata owners who already are driving their cars for several month on Autoworld forum bro. Sounds like a very valid concern.
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QUOTE(vectorian @ Feb 28 2011, 03:20 PM)
I suggest you direct this question to the numerous Sonata owners who already are driving their cars for several month on Autoworld forum bro. Sounds like a very valid concern.
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Hey bro, Thanks...will check it out and share later..
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hey guys how do we do trade in if our current car is already fully paid? need to hand in my current car, then wait 3 months for the new sonata? how much is the interest rate that you get?
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hey guys how do we do trade in if our current car is already fully paid? need to hand in my current car, then wait 3 months for the new sonata? how much is the interest rate that you get?
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Chester... I suggest you try selling off the car yourself since it's paid off. Just approach your SA and request for direct rebate on the discount they are offering.

For the waiting period, I hear the next few shipments are in high numbers (units of Sonata) so they seem confident in delivering within 2mths but once again check with your SA on this.

They are offering me 2.6% from PBE
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How come you get 2.6%?? i got mine 2.67%..damn...hehe..

Some how I am driving this Sonata for almost 2 months..so far everything is perfect for me!! performance, safety features, quality, everything...except only its sound proof which has to made a bit add on..

There are many mod coming in by this year so we can decorate the baby..yeah..

find more on autoworld forum which most of us are there discussing about our babies..
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QUOTE(Mycypro @ Mar 8 2011, 07:04 PM)
How come you get 2.6%?? i got mine 2.67%..damn...hehe..

Some how I am driving this Sonata for almost 2 months..so far everything is perfect for me!! performance, safety features, quality, everything...except only its sound proof which has to made a bit add on..

There are many mod coming in by this year so we can decorate the baby..yeah..

find more on autoworld forum which most of us are there discussing about our babies..
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They told me PBE is the cheapest at the time.

Glad to hear your new baby is doing well too smile.gif Can't wait for mine now.. grrr
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Guys, im planning to get sonata next month..i have a question abt the trade discount..i have a car under my dad's name and he's still servicing the loan which is finishing next year..can the 'dummy' trade in still be executed? is RON 95 sufficient for high spec 2.0?
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QUOTE(youngblood29us @ Mar 19 2011, 06:01 PM)
Guys, im planning to get sonata next month..i have a question abt the trade discount..i have a car under my dad's name and he's still servicing the loan which is finishing next year..can the 'dummy' trade in still be executed? is RON 95 sufficient for high spec 2.0?
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can the 'dummy' trade in still be executed?

yes, you just need to provide your SA your dad's original grant.

is RON 95 sufficient for high spec 2.0?

from other Sonata YF owners, yes it runs perfectly.
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3k dc only?
i rather wait 3 yrs and buy a used one for rm60k


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3k dc only?
i rather wait 3 yrs and buy a used one for rm60k
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You can get a 1yr old Sonata from Sime Darby (manager's car) for 126k

I have a good feeling all the new Hyundai will have very strong resale value from Sonata onwards. The new Avante which I heard is coming in Sept is another beauty.
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QUOTE(vectorian @ Mar 28 2011, 12:16 PM)
You can get a 1yr old Sonata from Sime Darby (manager's car) for 126k

I have a good feeling all the new Hyundai will have very strong resale value from Sonata onwards. The new Avante which I heard is coming in Sept is another beauty.
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It wont be very strong but it will surely be better. Yea most ppl are waiting for the new Avante since it was shown at KLIMS 2010.
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QUOTE(vectorian @ Mar 27 2011, 03:53 PM)

can the 'dummy' trade in still be executed?

yes, you just need to provide your SA your dad's original grant.

is RON 95 sufficient for high spec 2.0?

from other Sonata YF owners, yes it runs perfectly.
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Going to collect my Sonata 2011 model tomorrow! Chased them the manager managed to find me 1 ! smile.gif

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My interest rate is only 2.55% Affin Bank for sonata YF the lowest at this moment.... rclxms.gif
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My interest rate is only 2.55% Affin Bank for sonata YF the lowest at this moment.... rclxms.gif
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hehe thxs to one sonata area who came all the way from pj to get his car done with the yuma thick coil mat for his car and also boot

hoping to see some pic from him

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Wow.. that is a very good rate. How long is the loan period?
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jst came back visiting SG last week. i know Hyundai is doing well in SG, but didnt know that they actually won a tender for a taxi company to use Sonata (few years back model).

quite nice the seatings, as expected. but surprised to hear that most of the batches, after 3 years, engine will have some problem. eg more petrol consuming, noisier, etc.

it's quite a well known issues in sg it seems and now the taxi company is thinking to change it to Camry already. i hope the engine wont be the same with this new Sonata...
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Just booked one after test drove yesterday. I was abit undecided since Froday after test drove Toyota Prius, checking on the latest discounted Camry (Damn lotsa discount given) and Sonata..

After much research & trying to pacify myself that this car will not depreciate much due to so many assurance given by the salesmen & also the 2nd hand guy wth me this morning telling me that the rationg of FC, maintenance in US is very good and just a rank below Toyota & much better than Honda...well..I decided to book.. rclxm9.gif

Beh tahan wth the lucury feeling, sunroof, the push start thingy 7 etc that Camry/Accord at similar price can't give sad.gif ..Otherwise, I probably hv book a Camry 2.0 (low spec) liao which is abit cheaper after discount...

Now praying hard when time to change 5 yrs from now...I still can get the value i wanted just like I traded in my current Civic without any worry of topping up to pay-off the instalment hmm.gif ..I even no ned to top up anything to get this Sonata wth the Civic smile.gif

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QUOTE(stimix @ Jul 10 2011, 06:36 PM)
Just booked one after test drove yesterday. I was abit undecided since Froday after test drove Toyota Prius, checking on the latest discounted Camry (Damn lotsa discount given) and Sonata..

After much research & trying to pacify myself that this car will not depreciate much due to so many assurance given by the salesmen & also the 2nd hand guy wth me this morning telling me that the rationg of FC, maintenance in US is very good and just a rank below Toyota & much better than Honda...well..I decided to book.. rclxm9.gif

Beh tahan wth the lucury feeling, sunroof, the push start thingy 7 etc that Camry/Accord at similar price can't give  sad.gif ..Otherwise, I probably hv book a Camry 2.0 (low spec) liao which is abit cheaper after discount...

Now praying hard when time to change 5 yrs from now...I still can get the value i wanted just like I traded in my current Civic without any worry of topping up to pay-off the instalment  hmm.gif ..I even no ned to top up anything to get this Sonata wth the Civic  smile.gif
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Based on the Sonata's sales, you will surely need to top up to cover the remaining loan (assuming u took 90%). I have more confidence in the Kia Forte holding its resale value compared to the Sonata. YOu should have just waited for the new Camry.

Btw, how much is the discount on the Camry now?

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Wah likedat chiaklat liao...I'm taking ~ 80% loan after minus the remaining O/S loan for my Civic

Probably I topped up abit to reduced further and taking 7 yrs loan so that by 5th yr, I dun suffer kua?

Damn..such a refine car but not selling well in M'sia...haha
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QUOTE(stimix @ Jul 10 2011, 09:26 PM)
Wah likedat chiaklat liao...I'm taking ~ 80% loan after minus the remaining O/S loan for my Civic

Probably I topped up abit to reduced further and taking 7 yrs loan so that by 5th yr, I dun suffer kua?

Damn..such a refine car but not selling well in M'sia...haha
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haha poorfag kenot buy cash likedat wan ..well what to do haha
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2011 Hyundai Sonata facelift – subtle changes all around
http://paultan.org/2011/07/22/2011-hyundai...ges-all-around/
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Because of its radical styling, the Hyundai Sonata still looks as new as ever, but time flies and it’s already time for it to receive its mid-life facelift.

Hyundai has elected not to change much with the facelift, with minor updates to the front grille, wing mirrors and tail lamp design.

As even we had trouble looking for the differences at first, we’ve inserted comparison shots into this post to help you identify the old from the new. We’ve actually already seen a variation of this new tail lamp design as it was first used on the Hyundai Sonata Hybrid.

The Sonata has also received some equipment changes which include the 2.4 liter being replaced with a 2.0 liter inline-4 turbo GDI engine, but we are guessing these changes are market specific and we’re unlikely to see it implemented in Malaysia.

Look after the jump for a full gallery of the Sonata facelift.



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sonata is very nice car...my bro have one, black color...everytime stop at traffic, everone will turn their eyes to my bro car...lol...

but i prefer white color, damn nice! drool.gif
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Yes it's nice. OK got the car last week. Overall comfortable & much less road noises compare wth Civic 1.8 which is almost 100% sound-proofed + Autofoamed! However, the engine noise and vibration is abit harsh compare to the noiseless Civic engine + the gigantic Civic hydraulic mounting probably doing better than Sonata tiny hydraulic mounting (?). So nxt step probably sound-proof the floor & firewall + autofoam the under bodies & sills..
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Wonder when the pre-facelift version will be in the Malaysian market. Called the dealers and none of them know about the pre-facelift model or when it will be in. The standard reply was "we'll be selling the current model until probably the end of 2012". o.O
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Very minor cosmestic facelift. I dun really see any diff except the sport rim getting worst than ori haha
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Actually there's one more difference, the 2.0 liter inline-4 turbo GDI engine. Looking forward to that..hopefully it comes to Msia!
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But as paultan mentioned. it's market specific and most probably not availble in M'sia..Otherwise, the 2.0 GDI model probably > expensive than the current 2.4 model liao and even > Accord/ Camry 2.4 for sure haha
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Actually there's one more difference, the 2.0 liter inline-4 turbo GDI engine. Looking forward to that..hopefully it comes to Msia!
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sonata is very nice car...my bro have one, black color...everytime stop at traffic, everone will turn their eyes to my bro car...lol...

but i prefer white color, damn nice!  drool.gif
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how to not look? its like a piece of art...everytime i see sonata also can't help but look
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how to not look? its like a piece of art...everytime i see sonata also can't help but look
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those with black top lagi chuntedddddd
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The black top = full sunroof
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more an more white sonata on the road @ klang


anyway any bro's here that already change their rim? mind sharing some pics?

wants to see which rim would look good , so far only spotted one sonata with the rims change smile.gif


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The current rim already nice looking liao wor..why wanna change haha..unless those wanna go for low profile & bigger rim and ended up wth better handling but suffer wth lousy road noise smile.gif
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QUOTE(stimix @ Aug 1 2011, 09:09 PM)
The current rim already nice looking liao wor..why wanna change haha..unless those wanna go for low profile & bigger rim and ended up wth better handling but suffer wth lousy road noise  smile.gif
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cry.gif still seeing which rim would suit it, so hoping to see if any bro can share some pic

current plan in mind, door visor drool.gif , plate number and rim
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Im now taking an interest in the Hyundai Sonata after seeing disappointing pics of the upcoming Toyota Camry hybrid (which could be similar to our model). Any idea when the facelifted version will be launched here in Malaysia?
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Some rims pics as requested smile.gif

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During May 2011 Sonata TT
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Some rims pics as requested smile.gif

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Lol i few days ago i bump into this car, I was curious what the heck brand this car was. I tot it was new Luxus, wah, so sporty look even better than my Mazda 6 2.5. cry.gif

Mazda 6 2.5 was said to be low resale value. now after 3 years it turns out better than Accord/Camry. This new Sonata might also follow this trend. smile.gif It is a seriously sporty unique look compared to its competitor.

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QUOTE(billytong @ Aug 8 2011, 05:51 PM)
Lol i few days ago i bump into this car, I was curious what the heck brand this car was. I tot it was new Luxus, wah, so sporty look even better than my Mazda 6 2.5.  cry.gif

Mazda 6 2.5 was said to be low resale value. now after 3 years it turns out better than Accord/Camry. This new Sonata might also follow this trend.  smile.gif It is a seriously sporty unique look compared to its competitor.
Do you have data to show this better resale value?

Btw, Honda and Toyota has better resale holding power. Within the first 4-5 yrs, most cars will have similar resale value percentages. Its only after the 5th year that you start seeing a major difference between the Japs and other makes.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 8 2011, 05:58 PM)
Do you have data to show this better resale value?

Btw, Honda and Toyota has better resale holding power. Within the first 4-5 yrs, most cars will have similar resale value percentages. Its only after the 5th year that you start seeing a major difference between the Japs and other makes.
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a couple of months ago I saw Mazda 6 2.5 selling like RM10k higher @ the same time vs Camry Accord 2.4L in thestar.

but it is rare to see Mazda for sale in the paper. Even today I cant see any newest generation used mazda 2/3/6 sedan for sale. isnt Mazda 3 everywhere in the street already.

So I presume if this sexy Sonata are good in features, it will retain the resale value. the exterior look are killing me already. cry.gif

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a couple of months ago I saw Mazda 6 2.5 selling like RM10k higher @ the same time vs Camry Accord 2.4L in thestar.

but it is rare to see Mazda for sale in the paper. Even today I cant see any newest generation used mazda 2/3/6 sedan for sale. isnt Mazda 3 everywhere in the street already.

So I presume if this sexy Sonata are good in features, it will retain the resale value. the exterior look are killing me already.  cry.gif
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Abit sceptical although I pray hard that in 5 yrs time, my Sonata will be able to maintain the value..haha..Even Hyundai also can't guranttee me wor..They still said H&T having an edge on 2nd hand value for sure sad.gif

Well, I got poisoned by the Sonata look as well..and now I hv to pray even harder sad.gif
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So I presume if this sexy Sonata are good in features, it will retain the resale value. the exterior look are killing me already.  cry.gif
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QUOTE(stimix @ Aug 9 2011, 12:33 PM)
Abit sceptical although I pray hard that in 5 yrs time, my Sonata will be able to maintain the value..haha..Even Hyundai also can't guranttee me wor..They still said H&T having an edge on 2nd hand value for sure  sad.gif

Well, I got poisoned by the Sonata look as well..and now I hv to pray even harder  sad.gif
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Few weeks ago there was a hyundai roadshow in my town area. Well, the exterior definitely better than camry and teana. But if compare to accord, depend on your own preferences. The interior also bloody nice. Canggih. Well, the thing is, it is not really comfortable for me (i am 177cm) at the back seats. I have to bend my head a little bit otherwise will hit the roof.

Then i went to honda showroom and test drove accord. First impression when i sit into the car, quite ok. However, the driver seat is killing me. Not that comfortable. The honda salesman told me that the difference between 2.0 and 2.4 is not much. Vtec kicks in at 2.5k rpm for 2.0 and 3.5k rpm for 2.4. And accord 2.0 costs around rm15xk.

Got to test drive sonata/teana next time. And wait new camry.

PS: Sonata 2.4 Rm158K??? my god i thought rm17xK

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Actually in my case back in Feb this year when I needed to return my company car, I was heart set on getting the Accord (Teana and Camry looked too old for a young fart like me, so they were both not even on my list although I went to test drive them) but then they didn't take booking at the time cause the new facelift was about to be launched. So I went next door (at Glenmarie) to the Hyundai showroom and my jaw dropped when I first laid eyes on the Sonata. What a beauty... won my heart over at first glance.

What made my mind up eventually was:
- Dashboard - which is the one and only thing I disliked about the Accord cos it was too cluttered and hated it immensely.
- Features - for the price which was the cheapest among those cars I was looking at (Accord & Mazda6) comes with the MOST features.
- Sunroof+Moonroof - my baby daughter expression when the SA open it was priceless... enuf said tongue.gif

So I guess the rest is history smile.gif
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QUOTE(billytong @ Aug 8 2011, 06:05 PM)
a couple of months ago I saw Mazda 6 2.5 selling like RM10k higher @ the same time vs Camry Accord 2.4L in thestar.
You saw the price of the Mazda 6 (2.5L) higher than the Camry 2.4L by RM 10K?? Did you also know that the M6 is about RM 5K more expensive than the Camry 2.4L?

When you talk about resale value you need to look at a few adverts and then get a median. Not just look at 1 or 2 as there are many opportunistic sellers out there.

Resale value is highly dependent on demand which ties in with original sales volume and also brand perception.

Some sale statistics for 6 months (Jan-June 2011):

13,801 - Toyota Vios
7,258 - Honda City
3,911 - Toyota Camry
2,982 - Kia Forte
2,579 - Nissan Teana
2,179 - Honda Accord
2,003 - Hyundai Sonata

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One thing about the Korean success is proven even at LYN. Just simply look at how a few Japanese/German pro fanboys changed now compared with their previous replies.
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QUOTE(stimix @ Aug 9 2011, 12:33 PM)
Abit sceptical although I pray hard that in 5 yrs time, my Sonata will be able to maintain the value..haha..Even Hyundai also can't guranttee me wor..They still said H&T having an edge on 2nd hand value for sure  sad.gif
Nobody can guarantee anything bro espececially with the new generation Korean cars. But im sure of this though. The current group of Korean makes e.g Forte & Sonata will surely have much better resale value compared to their predecessors. But it will not be close to the resale prices of the Japs.

But in about 5 years time, if the Koreans can improve on their after sale service, quality and brand perception then im sure the Japs will be threatened (or overtaken) especially if they come out with crap cars like the 2012 Civic and 2012 Camry Hybrid styling. vmad.gif

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One thing about the Korean success is proven even at LYN. Just simply look at how a few Japanese/German pro fanboys changed now compared with their previous replies.
Not really. U must remember that you are talking bout higher end cars e.g Camry, Accord, Altis, Sonata...not the average Proton or Perodua. Most of these owners will not be on Lowyat posting comments.

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Not really. U must remember that you are talking bout higher end cars e.g Camry, Accord, Altis, Sonata...not the average Proton or Perodua. Most of these owners will not be on Lowyat posting comments.
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QUOTE(ben83 @ Aug 10 2011, 06:29 PM)
You will be surprise how many uncle (okay maybe less aunties) lurks around in LYN. Do visit LYN finance & property section, see it yourself.
Yes la..but what i mean is compare the number of actual Camry/Accord owners who are on LYN compared to Forte owners for example.
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Yes la..but what i mean is compare the number of actual Camry/Accord owners who are on LYN compared to Forte owners for example.
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I will expect those buying Sonata are those in late 30s to 50s..Yeah I'm one of the unkers...coming to mid 40s liao haha
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When tested drive the Sonata, found a few problems, 1st is the rear seat design is quite weird and the roof is too low, my head hit the roof, very uncomfortable, 2nd, when push the engine harder, the engine sound get very rough and the 3rd one is the braking power, totally is a rubbish for such a car, looks very sporty, but the braking power is totally opposite. And the last one, the body roll is really serious, driving this car on a road with lots of corner and you are feel like riding a boat. Straight road is ok, but corner is something I don't like when driving this car. (Those Sonata fanboy or owner, please don't come over me, I just tell what I feel about this car after I have tested it, no hard feeling.)
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When tested drive the Sonata, found a few problems, 1st is the rear seat design is quite weird and the roof is too low, my head hit the roof, very uncomfortable, 2nd, when push the engine harder, the engine sound get very rough and the 3rd one is the braking power, totally is a rubbish for such a car, looks very sporty, but the braking power is totally opposite. And the last one, the body roll is really serious, driving this car on a road with lots of corner and you are feel like riding a boat. Straight road is ok, but corner is something I don't like when driving this car. (Those Sonata fanboy or owner, please don't come over me, I just tell what I feel about this car after I have tested it, no hard feeling.)
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I'm short and I seldom sit at the back. If you're driver, why sitting at the back so important? haha..Due to sporty design, the headroom at the back suffer for sure as what reviewed elsewhere..Even my old Civic also having low back headroom. Not a problem to me and none of my frens /relatives complaning biggrin.gif ..well, probabl;y most of them as short as me biggrin.gif

Yes, the engine is not as refine as Japanese yet..push start and you can hear loud start sound liao blush.gif But after stabilised & engine warm-up, it is actually not bad dy..as silence as Camry on hot engine..but not cold engine for sure..That's why I did mentioned the engine is not refine as my older Civic 1.8 & even the pickup is slightly weak compare to even a Civic 1.8 blush.gif but on paper, the HP & Torque even pawned Civic FD2 2.0, Accord 2.0 & Camry 2.0 biggrin.gif But pick-up for sure better than Camry 2.0 smile.gif

On handling..ehhh..coming from Civic FD1, the handling on this is good-lah unless you are comparing wth better Accord handling? Civic stock handling is so-so nia and body roll worst than Sonata..Only after I added UR anti roll bar & lower my suspension + sport suspension + 17' sport rim, Civic performed slightl;y better than my Sonata but I lost all comfort level..darm super hard cry.gif ..Now wth Sonata, I got bck almost similar to Modified Civic handling + much better comfort such as muted road noises where even a Accord can't match biggrin.gif

That's why..I said..Sonata is between Camry & Acord interm of Comfort & Handling. no comment on headroom & dunno why headroom can be so important to the driver that dun sit at the back...Or you got a driver and you sit at the back most of the time?

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This surely isnt good news for a newly launched car:

http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/15/autos/hyun...x.htm?iid=HP_LN

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 8 2011, 06:58 PM)
Do you have data to show this better resale value?

Btw, Honda and Toyota has better resale holding power. Within the first 4-5 yrs, most cars will have similar resale value percentages. Its only after the 5th year that you start seeing a major difference between the Japs and other makes.
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cannot agreed.
Because my sister Civic fd2 2009 just manage to trade in abt RM85k?Depreciation abt RM
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QUOTE(vectorian @ Aug 10 2011, 05:55 PM)
Actually in my case back in Feb this year when I needed to return my company car, I was heart set on getting the Accord (Teana and Camry looked too old for a young fart like me, so they were both not even on my list although I went to test drive them) but then they didn't take booking at the time cause the new facelift was about to be launched. So I went next door (at Glenmarie) to the Hyundai showroom and my jaw dropped when I first laid eyes on the Sonata. What a beauty... won my heart over at first glance.

What made my mind up eventually was:
- Dashboard - which is the one and only thing I disliked about the Accord cos it was too cluttered and hated it immensely.
- Features - for the price which was the cheapest among those cars I was looking at (Accord & Mazda6) comes with the MOST features.
- Sunroof+Moonroof - my baby daughter expression when the SA open it was priceless... enuf said tongue.gif

So I guess the rest is history smile.gif
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cannot agreed.
Because my sister Civic fd2 2009 just manage to trade in abt RM85k?Depreciation abt RM
45K for only 2 years.
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Of course la. Depreciation within the first 2 years is the WORST for any car make even Toyota & Honda. Read what i said again. I said Toyota and Honda have much greater holding power after the 5th year onwards.

By the way, you said its a 2009 model rite? So that means it was considered a 3yr old car when sold this year not 2. 2009 is considered the 1st year. Vehicle age is calculated using year of manufacture not the actual months from date of purchase.
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Erm.... For instance my friends bought forte 2.0 at 95k at 2009 now want trade in nw for new car but still manage 70k ++ how to explain?

deprecitaion only 25k the most.

honda city 2004 only manage to trade in abt 30k ++


But lately, i saw few sonata wannabe camry owner . They paint their car roof black colour from far look like sonata.


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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 16 2011, 09:21 AM)
This surely isnt good news for a newly launched car:

http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/15/autos/hyun...x.htm?iid=HP_LN
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Thank god this doesn't effect us as ours are from Korea smile.gif
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QUOTE(rickyoac @ Aug 16 2011, 10:55 AM)
Erm.... For instance my friends bought forte 2.0 at 95k at 2009 now want trade in nw for new car but still manage 70k ++ how to explain?

deprecitaion only 25k the most.

honda city 2004 only manage to trade in abt 30k ++
But lately, i saw few sonata wannabe camry owner . They paint their car roof black colour from far look like sonata.
Depreciation is calculated based on percentage when comparing as the original purchase price is different. Not the actual value itself. Based on your info, the Civic depreciation is 34% while the Forte depreciation is 26%. But Forte cant be really taken into account since there arent many 2nd hand units up for sale. So its more of your luck actually.

Honda City 2004 resale value is approx RM 44K-45K. If your friend traded in at 30K++ that means he/she got a very poor deal.

Trade in value is not resale value. Trade in value is the value the 2nd hand card dealer accepts your car while resale value refers to the exact value of your car. Dealers accept different margins for trade in depending on the make and model of the car. .

Btw, what car did he trade in for?

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for me , i will calculate the car drop % like this.
1st year drop 15%, 5 % for the continues years.

eg for a civic 2.0 ,130k, after 3 years, 25% drop, so , the resale value will be around 97.5k , then the dealer / shop will only offer u resale value below than 97.5k . eg , 95k as they need earn also .... but dunt let them earn too much , set the range 3k within 97.5k , so that u wont get cheated.

i personaly think i will apply this to most of the car except korean car~~ as my dad bought his ssangyong rexton at 170k, and only get a resale value of 45k after 4 years ~~ thats y now i m broke to own a car ^^


Added on August 18, 2011, 12:30 amanyone know how to earn a car in a most effective and save way ?? can share knowledge abit ma ??

eg : loan how many years is the best ? how many % upfront deposit need to put in ??

how long once should we change our car ? every 5 years ?

car is a depreciation asset , how can we make it as a lowest depreciation asset ?? anyone research on this before ??

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The US Sonata is using EPS i.e electronic power steering system & all asian model using Hydraulic. So we are not affected lor. There are lotsa youtube videos on this EPS since 2010 dy..
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QUOTE(walkin86 @ Aug 18 2011, 12:17 AM)
anyone know how to earn a car in a most effective and save way ?? can share knowledge abit ma ??

eg : loan how many years is the best ? how many % upfront deposit need to put in ??

how long once should we change our car ? every 5 years ?

car is a depreciation asset , how can we make it as a lowest depreciation asset ?? anyone research on this before ??
My opinion as follows:

1) For loan amount, i think max should be 5 years. If u can't afford 5 yr loan then that car is not meant for you. Always put in max downpayment but also take into account that some banks offer better interest rates for higher loans. Just do the math and come up with an amount that gives you the lowest interest payments.

2) Changing car should be nothing before 5 yrs as anything lesser than that would result in a massive loss of resale value but better if you can keep longer till about 7yrs or more.

3) For lowest depreciation, just get a car with higher resale value e.g Toyota and Honda. If you wanna go for Korean also can but ensure that the car's original price is competitive and the car is selling well e.g Kia Forte.

But most importantly, buy a car that satisfies your needs & requirements. Dont just buy a car to impress others. Be practical about car purchases as its a losing investment no matter the brand. Always remember to live within your means.
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Just to update what modification I did on my babe since got it last mth..Well Full Moon + 6 days liao rclxm9.gif

1) Change the rear back speaker to Kenwood component set (A must to reduce the loud bass & less treeble on ori)
2) Headlight upgraded to Philips Xtreme Vision 100% (Actual effect ~ 30% brighter only)
3) Parking light upgraded twice & ended up wth Philips Ulthinon LED
4) Autofoam -Comfort + Bootlid treatment at KLauto.. smile.gif - A must too. Cured 80% thumbup.gif of the slight vibration during idling - However the not so refined engine only slightly muted)
5) DIY-ed boot Sound proofing on rear arch & floor - reduced road roaring tremendouly although already OK comparing wth my older Civic FD1 biggrin.gif

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My opinion as follows:

1) For loan amount, i think max should be 5 years. If u can't afford 5 yr loan then that car is not meant for you. Always put in max downpayment but also take into account that some banks offer better interest rates for higher loans. Just do the math and come up with an amount that gives you the lowest interest payments.
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QUOTE(stimix @ Aug 26 2011, 09:37 AM)
Just to update what modification I did on my babe since got it last mth..Well Full Moon + 6 days liao  rclxm9.gif

1) Change the rear back speaker to Kenwood component set (A must to reduce the loud bass & less treeble on ori)
2) Headlight upgraded to Philips Xtreme Vision 100% (Actual effect ~ 30% brighter only)
3) Parking light upgraded twice & ended up wth Philips Ulthinon LED
4) Autofoam -Comfort + Bootlid treatment at KLauto.. smile.gif - A must too. Cured 80%  thumbup.gif of the slight vibration during idling - However the not so refined engine only slightly muted)
5) DIY-ed boot Sound proofing on rear arch & floor - reduced road roaring tremendouly although already OK comparing wth my older Civic FD1  biggrin.gif
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Xtreme vision? what size of bulb that your sonata uses?

brows.gif , im also using philips ultinon LED, use once, and you'll find other LEDs dim.

how much did u get yours? thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(rickyoac @ Aug 16 2011, 10:55 AM)
Erm.... For instance my friends bought forte 2.0 at 95k at 2009 now want trade in nw for new car but still manage 70k ++ how to explain?
deprecitaion only 25k the most.
honda city 2004 only manage to trade in abt 30k ++
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forte 2.0 4 speed sold at RM93k (include insurance) not 95k
1st batch registered in early 2010, not 2009, only 1.6 registered in end 2009
if honda city has 2.0 version than i talked, if 1.5 only i better keep quiet...
u should talked about same category which is civic 2.0... now tell me how much civic 2.0 price?

QUOTE(rickyoac @ Aug 16 2011, 10:55 AM)
But lately, i saw few sonata wannabe camry owner . They paint their car roof black colour from far look like sonata.
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few sonata wannabe camry owner? if yes why they paint their car roof like sonata... their car already sonata maaa...
unless u stmt like this "few camry wannabe sonata owner"...

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Xtreme Vision...headlight buld = H7. got it for Rm170. The Ultinon cost me RM160. Combionation of both really a winrar.. biggrin.gif B4 Ulthinon, I had upgraded to another cheapo LED but the combi really chekai & thus went back and asked for replacement to ultinon thumbup.gif ..Now happy wth the bright upgrade liao sumore it's 100% legal..The ori highbeam now almost useless and though the same brightness as headlight rclxms.gif ..Probably I need to upgrade the highbeam bult to xtreme vision too hmm.gif
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Xtreme vision? what size of bulb that your sonata uses?

brows.gif , im also using philips ultinon LED, use once, and you'll find other LEDs dim.

how much did u get yours? thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(stimix @ Aug 9 2011, 12:33 PM)
Abit sceptical although I pray hard that in 5 yrs time, my Sonata will be able to maintain the value..haha..Even Hyundai also can't guranttee me wor..They still said H&T having an edge on 2nd hand value for sure  sad.gif

Well, I got poisoned by the Sonata look as well..and now I hv to pray even harder  sad.gif
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wah lau, you really go ask the Hyundai about it's RV ar? biggrin.gif

did you ask them why it's cars previous models so low RV (resale value) wan?
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Have to ask mah...otherwise very scary wor wth the previouys car resale value. i even re-check wth the 2nd car dealer that came to inspect my old car. He also assure me this latest gen Sonata will not be so bad but also saying that the value might not be as good as last gen Sonata

Reason- The old sonata having parts relibility, heavy FC & low demand. this gen Sonata diff liao..Wth conitune mthly sales >1000 units they can't even cope wth the demand and the survey in US named it as the 3rd or 4th most reliable car in the recent survey just a rank below Toyota & much higher than Honda.. So the figure in US speak for itself. Hyundai also suffered sales probolems in US years back but came back strong since the launching of this Sonata, the Tucson & Elantra

So hopefully this for sure will create a strong demand & thereafter maintaining the 2nd value as good as H&T smile.gif (This is true haha)
QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 26 2011, 04:51 PM)
wah lau, you really go ask the Hyundai about it's RV ar?  biggrin.gif

did you ask them why it's cars previous models so low RV (resale value) wan?
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Have to ask mah...otherwise very scary wor wth the previouys car resale value. i even re-check wth the 2nd car dealer that came to inspect my old car. He also assure me this latest gen Sonata will not be so bad but also saying that the value might not be as good as last gen Sonata

Reason- The old sonata having parts relibility, heavy FC & low demand. this gen Sonata diff liao..Wth conitune mthly sales >1000 units they can't even cope wth the demand and the survey in US named it as the 3rd or 4th most reliable car in the recent survey just a rank below Toyota & much higher than Honda.. So the figure in US speak for itself. Hyundai also suffered sales probolems in US years back but came back strong since the launching of this Sonata, the Tucson & Elantra

So hopefully this for sure will create a strong demand & thereafter maintaining the 2nd value as good as H&T  smile.gif (This is true haha)
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1st & 2nd year depreciation is likedat.. No choice wan. i still remembered when my old Civic FD1 which i got it for RM113K in 2006, I saw ppl selling it in 2007 for RM95K...darn my heart also melted..lucky by 2008, price still ~ RM90K, 3rd yr also the same still RM85K, 4th yr also ~ RM85K & 5th yr - RM78-RM<83K...That's Honda lah..So I dun expect Soanat YF to drop till RM20K on the 5th year but I anticipate price of ~ RM60K by 5th yr (For YF model)..i.e slightly worst than Camry & Accord hmm.gif
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QUOTE(stimix @ Aug 26 2011, 05:26 PM)
1st & 2nd year depreciation is likedat.. No choice wan. i still remembered when my old Civic FD1 which i got it for RM113K in 2006, I saw ppl selling it in 2007 for RM95K...darn my heart also melted..lucky by 2008, price still ~ RM90K, 3rd yr also the same still RM85K, 4th yr also ~ RM85K & 5th yr - RM78-RM<83K...That's Honda lah..So I dun expect Soanat YF to drop till RM20K on the 5th year but I anticipate price of ~ RM60K by 5th yr (For YF model)..i.e slightly worst than Camry & Accord  hmm.gif
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Normally first and 2nd year depreciate like mad, after that will stabilize a bit.. after 5th year will drop again  laugh.gif
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especially the sonata after 5years... warranty over liao mah..  biggrin.gif
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Normally first and 2nd year depreciate like mad, after that will stabilize a bit.. after 5th year will drop again  laugh.gif
Not really. Price depreciation is the highest in the first 3-4 years. After the 5th year it will stabilise. A 2003 model Toyota Vios sells for about RM 42-43K now. Just a drop of about 44% only in resale value over 8 years. It still retains about 55% of its original value despite being 8 years old. Thats what i call good resale value. Resale values are demand driven.
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QUOTE(Bliz @ Aug 28 2011, 12:48 PM)
Only Sonata and VW got 5 years warranty, the rest only 3 years  doh.gif
Most of these 5 year warranties are limited warranties. Only the first 3 yrs are full warranty. Tats the case with Hyundai & Kia. Not sure about other makes.
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Just wondering...if i booked the new sonata now...how long do i have to wait???

Thanks in advance...
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QUOTE(zad78 @ Aug 29 2011, 01:44 AM)
Just wondering...if i booked the new sonata now...how long do i have to wait???

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Most of these 5 year warranties are limited warranties. Only the first 3 yrs are full warranty. Tats the case with Hyundai & Kia. Not sure about other makes.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 28 2011, 01:05 PM)
Most of these 5 year warranties are limited warranties. Only the first 3 yrs are full warranty. Tats the case with Hyundai & Kia. Not sure about other makes.
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QUOTE(Bliz @ Aug 29 2011, 12:46 PM)
Well 5 years is always better than 3 years anyway, i applaud VW/Kia/Hyunda for giving 5 years warranty  thumbup.gif
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True enough on warranty, 3+2 is definitely better than only 3. Also not all makers provide lousy limited warranty on the additional 2 years, like VW for instance the limited warranty coverage is pretty comprehensive (read their T&C).

However there are makers like Proton offering only 2+3, so cases like this is debatable with those offering 3.
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Silver is the fastest. I got it within a week after placing my order. However for other colours such as white. Be prepared to wait for 3-5mths
QUOTE(zad78 @ Aug 29 2011, 01:44 AM)
Just wondering...if i booked the new sonata now...how long do i have to wait???

Thanks in advance...
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QUOTE(stimix @ Aug 29 2011, 09:18 PM)
Silver is the fastest. I got it within a week after placing my order. However for other colours such as white. Be prepared to wait for 3-5mths
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one week is really fast!!!!...where did you book? seriously considering the 2.0 HS silver....

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I got it from Puchong Showroom just beside IOI Mall. However I was told there are more fast silver units at Sri Kembangan showroom
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QUOTE(stimix @ Aug 29 2011, 10:20 PM)
I got it from Puchong Showroom just beside IOI Mall. However I was told there are more fast silver units at Sri Kembangan showroom
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yeah welcome to the kimchi land soon.. you will not regretting it & i dun coming from Nippon H car haha..This Evening coming doen from CH towards Penang, the smooth gliding down the CH-Spg Pulai is so trailing and tackling every curve at 90km/hr like peanut..Not even my older Cibik FD can do this..well except when I modified to sport suspension but the ride of the modified car was so hard & stiff and this Kimchi did it right wth similar to my heavully modified suspension civic FD but yet stiff soft & comfortable..Passing 3000km mark dy and the power getting better and I almost got back missing pick-up similar to my old ride but wth much better mid-range & hi-end power haha..
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QUOTE(stimix @ Aug 29 2011, 10:47 PM)
yeah welcome to the kimchi land soon.. you will not regretting it & i dun coming from Nippon H car haha..This Evening coming doen from CH towards Penang, the smooth gliding down the CH-Spg Pulai is so trailing and tackling every curve at 90km/hr like peanut..Not even my older Cibik FD can do this..well except when I modified to sport suspension but the ride of the modified car was so hard & stiff and this Kimchi did it right wth similar to my heavully modified suspension civic FD but yet stiff soft & comfortable..Passing 3000km mark dy and the power getting better and I almost got back missing pick-up similar to my old ride but wth much better mid-range & hi-end power haha..
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haha indeed u got poisoned. Anyway, mine already autofoamed (Comfort/ bottom underbody frames)..otherwise, on a stock Sonata, there is still slight vibration and not as superior as Teana & Camry interm of real comfort. Only after autofoamed, the vibration gone & starting & idle no more vibration & thus got the "feeling" haha...The engione also not as refined as Toyota or Nissan as the engine start & during riding is audible. That's the only complain I have on Sonata.
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QUOTE(stimix @ Aug 29 2011, 10:47 PM)
yeah welcome to the kimchi land soon.. you will not regretting it & i dun coming from Nippon H car haha..This Evening coming doen from CH towards Penang, the smooth gliding down the CH-Spg Pulai is so trailing and tackling every curve at 90km/hr like peanut..Not even my older Cibik FD can do this..well except when I modified to sport suspension but the ride of the modified car was so hard & stiff and this Kimchi did it right wth similar to my heavully modified suspension civic FD but yet stiff soft & comfortable..Passing 3000km mark dy and the power getting better and I almost got back missing pick-up similar to my old ride but wth much better mid-range & hi-end power haha..
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When comes to handling no deny due to longer & wider body & harder suspension, it's the best handling ca out there. But due to hard setting it will not be comfortable as Camry & Sonata haha..

On handling & power, Accord>Sonata> Camry
but on comfort it's Camry>Sonata>Accord

No deny on it. However wth abit of Autofoam, Sonata is as good as Camry interm of comfort except the louder than usual engine noise no tnx to the Mitshubishi/Hyundai/Crysler developed Theta II engine
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why so quiet? sweat.gif

thumbup.gif anyway spotted lots of white sonata at klang, few with daytime running lights on it too

but only one shines out the most icon_rolleyes.gif those like oem design type , must have cost the owner a lot unsure.gif
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Autoworld forum on Sonata is not quiet..probably the title.."Booking List" not interest lotsa ppl haha

BTW, the waiting time getting longer! according to few forumers at autoworld, the AP problem probably the culprit!! Hyundai M'sia running low on AP as Ap following past year sales..Wth the high demand & lack of AP, they are having difficulties to cope up wth the demand
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QUOTE(stimix @ Sep 10 2011, 09:26 AM)
Autoworld forum on Sonata is not quiet..probably the title.."Booking List" not interest lotsa ppl haha

BTW, the waiting time getting longer! according to few forumers at autoworld, the AP problem probably the culprit!! Hyundai M'sia running low on AP as Ap following past year sales..Wth the high demand & lack of AP, they are having difficulties to cope up wth the demand
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Mine also ready stock but ONLY Silver. Silver they imported a lot but lack of demand! Everyone wanted white..That's why the waiting time for white extended to 4mths now..

Just read this and issue on AP on the last 2 posts..well, I'm not sure bcos I also got the car 1 week after booking - silver for sure haha..
http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?s=...dpost&p=1752163

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where got? before raya this month, I just helped my biz partner get one , ready stock 2011 car..  biggrin.gif
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Thinking of getting the standard spec 2.0 coz really concerned about the reliability of the sunroof. Afraid that the rubber lining will crack in our weather condition thus will create potential leakage in the long run. What do u guys think?
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got 5 yrs warranty mah. smile.gif

Anyway, FYI, there are minor problems too encountered by owners..such as rattling sunroof - no solution yet, Rattling exhaust pipe - SC started replacing those units affected, scratch brake disc- also replacing done. & also rattling at the boot area- due to loose reverse sensor / fuel cap cable - rectified

However not all having these problems

QUOTE(zad78 @ Sep 13 2011, 04:56 AM)
Thinking of getting the standard spec 2.0 coz really concerned about the reliability of the sunroof. Afraid that the rubber lining will crack in our weather condition thus will create potential leakage in the long run. What do u guys think?
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QUOTE(stimix @ Sep 13 2011, 06:59 AM)
got 5 yrs warranty mah.  smile.gif

Anyway, FYI, there are minor problems too encountered by owners..such as rattling sunroof - no solution yet, Rattling exhaust pipe - SC started replacing those units affected, scratch brake disc- also replacing done. & also rattling at the boot area- due to loose reverse sensor / fuel cap cable - rectified

However not all having these problems
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Well, if that is the case, then 2.0 standard spec it is...even though got warranty, its troublesome to go to and fro a lot of times to get it settle...
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check also the spec on the basic model. lotsa items missing i.e sunroof, keyless & push start system, immobiliser, traction controls, electric poer chair & more..These bundled packages already cost >RM10K if you wanna add in yourselve.
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Hmmm decision decision...
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QUOTE(stimix @ Sep 13 2011, 06:59 AM)
got 5 yrs warranty mah.  smile.gif

Anyway, FYI, there are minor problems too encountered by owners..such as rattling sunroof - no solution yet, Rattling exhaust pipe - SC started replacing those units affected, scratch brake disc- also replacing done. & also rattling at the boot area- due to loose reverse sensor / fuel cap cable - rectified

However not all having these problems
The 5 years warranty is a 3+2 or 2+3 right? So the remaining + warranty only covers major mechanical parts. I dont think the sunroof is covered.
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QUOTE(stimix @ Aug 29 2011, 10:47 PM)
This Evening coming doen from CH towards Penang, the smooth gliding down the CH-Spg Pulai is so trailing and tackling every curve at 90km/hr like peanut..Not even my older Cibik FD can do this..
Your Civic couldnt handle the bends in that area at 90kmph? Are you sure? Those bends were actually designed to handle cars travelling at 85kmph and this was way back in the 1980's. New generation cars would have no issues at all taking them at 90kmph. Even my Vios can take them relatively well (except on rainy days when i rather not take the risk).
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 15 2011, 07:43 AM)
The 5 years warranty is a 3+2 or 2+3 right? So the remaining + warranty only covers major mechanical parts. I dont think the sunroof is covered.
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Depend on personal skill..If I only can confidently drove Civic at 70km/hr and on the same time can do 90km/hr there meaning handling good liao lor.. biggrin.gif I dun like the feeling of buang-buang while going thru those curvy roads..so at 90km/hr and dun feel buang-buang really good liao.. biggrin.gif You probably kheng on your Vios or VIOS handling much better than Civic? no idea biggrin.gif
QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 15 2011, 07:47 AM)
Your Civic couldnt handle the bends in that area at 90kmph? Are you sure? Those bends were actually designed to handle cars travelling at 85kmph and this was way back in the 1980's. New generation cars would have no issues at all taking them at 90kmph. Even my Vios can take them relatively well (except on rainy days when i rather not take the risk).
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QUOTE(stimix @ Sep 13 2011, 05:15 PM)
check also the spec on the basic model. lotsa items missing i.e sunroof, keyless & push start system, immobiliser, traction controls, electric poer chair & more..These bundled packages already cost >RM10K if you wanna add in yourselve.
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std spec ok ler.. so many korean automotive parts, after these gadgets jam or breakdown dunno cost how much to repair after warranty.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 21 2011, 01:30 PM)
std spec ok ler.. so many korean automotive parts, after these gadgets jam or breakdown dunno cost how much to repair after warranty..  laugh.gif
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Exactly!!!BTW... could u guys please give me any dealers who could issue the car fast (about 1 week) as when I went to the branch near IOI mall Puchong the waiting is about 2 months...thanks....

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Ok-lah...haha your choice anyway..furthermore cheaper price..well..price wise hor haha.....Even right now few owners also complain about the tik-tik sound from the sunroof although so far no cases of leaking yet. ..probably the std car also lighter abit bcos the thick glass & motor is not light anyway haha


Added on September 21, 2011, 5:12 pmI think no more ready stock currently.. mths ago, you still can find "Ready stock appearing on mudah.com

But now..none at all.. Wth the year end coming, and rumour saying that Sime Darby almost finished all their AP qouta...really difficult to get a new car now..& the demand is still very high

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car just got it few days back, booked b4 raya..

now helping my partner choose tint and ceramic coat the car.. white memang susah..

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 21 2011, 07:38 PM)
car just got it few days back,  booked b4 raya..

now helping my partner choose tint and ceramic coat the car.. white memang susah..

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car just got it few days back,  booked b4 raya..

now helping my partner choose tint and ceramic coat the car.. white memang susah..

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Partner= biz or waifu? if waifu meaning you added another D segment to your hse liao..

Anyway congratz to your partner for ditching sushi for Kimchi..or from Sate?
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cry.gif just receive a call, 2.0 for white now still no stock yet , only got 2.4 sad.gif

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QUOTE(stimix @ Sep 10 2011, 04:59 PM)
Mine also ready stock but ONLY Silver. Silver they imported a lot but lack of demand! Everyone wanted white..That's why the waiting time for white extended to 4mths now..

Just read this and issue on AP on the last 2 posts..well, I'm not sure bcos I also got the car 1 week after booking - silver for sure haha..
http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?s=...dpost&p=1752163
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hai bro...i m looking for sonata also...but nowadays need to wait longer...anyone knows where got ready stock? Maybe silver?
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QUOTE(Whoiee99 @ Oct 3 2011, 07:15 PM)
hai bro...i m looking for sonata also...but nowadays need to wait longer...anyone knows where got ready stock? Maybe silver?
Why bother getting the current model now when the new facelift is already on the way???
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 3 2011, 07:19 PM)
Why bother getting the current model now when the new facelift is already on the way???
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Very minor facelift-lah. Just the front grill from chrome to less chromy, the LED read light & also the sport rim:

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QUOTE(stimix @ Oct 3 2011, 07:28 PM)
Very minor facelift-lah. Just the front grill from chrome to less chromy, the LED read light & also the sport rim:

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thxs for the fast reply, sweat.gif this thread very quiet, where are all the kakis haha..

have been waiting patiently through the hyundai sonata fb page for the third tt pics, still not up

( any lyn members there too? ) smile.gif
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You mean no picture of the TT? Here got mah:

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http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?sh...&st=40&start=40

Most of Sonatarian using that forum rather than FB and LYN haha

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cry.gif  just receive a call, 2.0 for white now still no stock yet , only got 2.4 sad.gif

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You mean no picture of the TT? Here got mah:

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Most of Sonatarian using that forum rather than FB and LYN haha
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speaking of this photo, dat day you say the 1st car mod kau kau, means what type of mod ar? fully adjustable shocks? large brake kit etc? or just rims and UR bar?

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Well, if i still can recall, he lowered the springs/ changed to lowered springs. - Absorber maintained ori. Added UR bars, H bars & dunno what bars summo haha. RIM changed to 18',ful body spoilers, GPS navigator, front/rear cam and more...Rough estimate >RM20K
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QUOTE(stimix @ Oct 4 2011, 07:37 PM)
Well, if i still can recall, he lowered the springs/ changed to lowered springs. - Absorber maintained ori. Added UR bars, H bars & dunno what bars summo haha. RIM changed to 18',ful body spoilers, GPS navigator, front/rear cam and more...Rough estimate >RM20K
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The last mini TT just over on last Sat at Petronas kota Damansara..Only few of them to compare the common complain on this car i.e the level of vibration and result after autofoam.

Well, i din attend this one
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QUOTE(stimix @ Oct 4 2011, 07:49 PM)
The last mini TT just over on last Sat at Petronas kota Damansara..Only few of them to compare the common complain on this car i.e the level of vibration and result after autofoam.

Well, i  din attend this one
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notice lots of sonata in klang with drl

anyone that went for the oem ones? from ( dunno what shark ) , i think i saw one in klang before
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Out of the 13 cars that went to the TT, 2 are wth the Shark Racing DRL & there are few more wth OEM too but most of the OEM complaining water leaking problem dy..2nd best after the shar racing wth super bright LED= Philips..The advise for those wanna install DRL..better get Philips or Shar racing and dun get those below RM300

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just came back from a 200km drive in one, and.. saw a convoy of 8-10 sonatas with full body stickers.. dunno what promo or where they going..


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Probably another splinter Sonata Club kua? For sure not M'sian Sonata YF FB & even Autoworld bcos no one mention about the convoy haha
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Just booked a silver 2.0 standard spec sonata....was told that will receive the car in 2 months time....my god...the waiting game begins....
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Hopefully it's true bcos, ppl been promised within 3 mths but only got it 4mths later..Anyway that was white 2.4 lah haha..Silver is more easier to get but HS not sure about std spec.


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but recently i got another customer waited 3 months, she booked silver but not stock, ended up sa giving her black smile.gif

sigh, bank loan all kaw tim d, paid the extra 20k d for 2.4 , but still no news on the delivery sad.gif
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2.4 having longer waiting period from those discussion in autoworld forum. One guy booked 2.4 in May & another booked 2.0 also in may. Both also white.

The 2.0 got his car on 26/9!! but the 2.4 still waiting..He almost gave up liao..dunno whether he got it or not bcos quiet liao..Check their discussion here:

http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?s=...dpost&p=1753823

So those Showroom promise 2 mths..better discount it..
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QUOTE(stimix @ Oct 5 2011, 03:04 PM)
2.4 having longer waiting period from those discussion in autoworld forum. One guy booked 2.4 in May & another booked 2.0 also in may. Both also white.

The 2.0 got his car on 26/9!! but the 2.4 still waiting..He almost gave up liao..dunno whether he got it or not bcos quiet liao..Check their discussion here:

http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?s=...dpost&p=1753823

So those Showroom promise 2 mths..better discount it..
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Anyway..yours probably OK bcos u choose silver and the demand for std spec might not be high as hi-spec
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stim taiko, the interior dash lights, centre console aircon area, all the blue LEDs, and the dash rpm/speedo display white lights, can it be dimmed? I noticed yesterday when driving back 8pm dat time, the cabin is dem bright with blue and white lights.. can dim those or not?


Added on October 5, 2011, 6:45 pm
QUOTE(stimix @ Oct 5 2011, 10:43 AM)
Probably another splinter Sonata Club kua? For sure not M'sian Sonata YF FB & even Autoworld bcos no one mention about the convoy haha
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convoy was heading to east cost on karak hwy wor.. 6-7pm dat time..

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lock for the sonata is already waiting at my place for the delivery of the car tongue.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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Got-lah the odo dimmer is located on the right side near to the door. But no dimmer for CD player & aircon-lah

QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 5 2011, 06:42 PM)
stim taiko, the interior dash lights, centre console aircon area, all the blue LEDs, and the dash rpm/speedo display white lights, can it be dimmed? I noticed yesterday when driving back 8pm dat time, the cabin is dem bright with blue and white lights.. can dim those or not?


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convoy was heading to east cost on karak hwy wor.. 6-7pm dat time..
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Added on October 5, 2011, 7:37 pmShorty behave abit hor..you know the rules clear..no indirect advertisement here..haha..otherwise, you will get report for advetising in discussion forum

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QUOTE(stimix @ Oct 5 2011, 07:35 PM)
Got-lah the odo dimmer is located on the right side near to the door. But no dimmer for CD player & aircon-lah

Added on October 5, 2011, 7:37 pmShorty behave abit hor..you know the rules clear..no indirect advertisement here..haha..otherwise, you will get report for advetising in discussion forum
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laugh.gif ok, wait till i installed it at the car, i post here ok ar laugh.gif

since it is installed on a sonata tongue.gif
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You will not be the 1st.. There are few already installed this lock and even every Showroom having promotion asking owner to install.. haha..Well, I dun for sure.
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QUOTE(stimix @ Oct 5 2011, 07:57 PM)
You will not be the 1st.. There are few already installed this lock and even every Showroom having promotion asking owner to install.. haha..Well, I dun for sure.
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haha of course i am not the first i actually got one installed by another bro from here. .

easy to use .

btw browse throught the link u gave. it seems some brought in the shark racing drl for only 500


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You will not be the 1st.. There are few already installed this lock and even every Showroom having promotion asking owner to install.. haha..Well, I dun for sure.
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haha of course i am not the first i actually got one installed by another bro from here. .

easy to use .

btw browse throught the link u gave. it seems some brought in the shark racing drl for only 500

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Mind you it's not RM550 but US$550 haha:

Here's the official sharracing website they bought from..I was told super duper efficient delivered with a week after payment made and direct from S/korea

http://www.sharkracing.com/acecart/bin/sho...&cate=012101000


Added on October 5, 2011, 9:39 pmOpss not that one..This wan: US$200..paiseh

http://www.sharkracing.com/acecart/bin/sho...&cate=012101000

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QUOTE(stimix @ Oct 5 2011, 09:37 PM)
Mind you it's not RM550 but US$550 haha:

Here's the official sharracing website they bought from..I was told super duper efficient delivered with a week after payment made and direct from S/korea

http://www.sharkracing.com/acecart/bin/sho...&cate=012101000


Added on October 5, 2011, 9:39 pmOpss not that one..This wan: US$200..paiseh

http://www.sharkracing.com/acecart/bin/sho...&cate=012101000
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nod.gif i know , but check this

link

2nd post there.. rolleyes.gif
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hmnnn OK, for sure he got it from Sharkracing too at during mar 2011, that DRL probably having promo or that was the price during that time kua..He did mentioned somewhere he got it from sharkracing and he was also the one mentioning how fast sharkracing expedited the delivery to M'sia haha
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QUOTE(stimix @ Oct 5 2011, 10:26 PM)
hmnnn OK, for sure he got it from Sharkracing too at during mar 2011, that DRL probably having promo or that was the price during that time kua..He did mentioned somewhere he got it from sharkracing and he was also the one mentioning how fast sharkracing expedited the delivery to M'sia haha
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notice from the tt pic and even in klang, lots of sonata with the 8 led if i am not wrong, those bigger types

anyway, did u install any?

wondering would it look nice with philips..

but if sharkracing is only around 500 to 600, it would be much worth it to go for it sweat.gif
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Yeah but duringthe TT, that guy wth the RM575 sharkracing DRL was telling me Philips is even brighter than Shark Racing wor but philips really does not match the car compare wth sharkracing.

The US$500 angle eye I posted earlier much more chun haha
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QUOTE(stimix @ Oct 5 2011, 10:42 PM)
Yeah but duringthe TT, that guy wth the RM575 sharkracing DRL was telling me Philips is even brighter than Shark Racing wor but philips really does not match the car compare wth sharkracing.

The US$500 angle eye I posted earlier much more chun haha
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biggrin.gif philips is bright , but got other china ones brighter ( but sigh )

o ya one thing, any bros there installed door visor?
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Door visor..The bdr Puteri puchong offer me RM80 wth Sonata emblem last mth but no more stock liao. I dun really like the design as not like those mugen style to reduce wind noise
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QUOTE(stimix @ Oct 5 2011, 11:31 PM)
Door visor..The bdr Puteri puchong offer me RM80 wth Sonata emblem last mth but no more stock liao. I dun really like the design as not like those mugen style to reduce wind noise
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blush.gif mugen type? i have hehe

anyway, was hoping to see if any bros installed those oem style type aka injection type door visors, which easily cost around 180 like that, very classy look

talking bout bdr puteri puchong, through the autoworld link u gave, i notice quite a number of sonata owners go there for some mod? rolleyes.gif
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That wan is Hyundai SC lah. unless you talking about another nearby TTH tinted shop? Yeah that wan is unofficial Sonata acc shop and the SC at Bdr Puteri (Offering the RM80 visor) also famous because the way they taking care of the car. if you complain your car got sound they will even ride thryu hump & even having another mechanic sit inside the boot to listen..And the best they honour all warranty claim so far..
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QUOTE(stimix @ Oct 6 2011, 12:06 AM)
That wan is Hyundai SC lah. unless you talking about another nearby TTH tinted shop? Yeah that wan is unofficial Sonata acc shop and the SC at Bdr Puteri (Offering the RM80 visor) also famous because the way they taking care of the car. if you complain your car got sound they will even ride thryu hump & even having another mechanic sit inside the boot to listen..And the best they honour all warranty claim so far..
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yup the one neart tth tinted shop biggrin.gif gotta drop them a visit one day ( hehe undercover can ar )

talking about sc, any sc in klang?

din notice any sweat.gif
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Check the Hyundai website..I think near Bdr Baru Klang side got one
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QUOTE(zad78 @ Oct 5 2011, 11:51 AM)
Just booked a silver 2.0 standard spec sonata....was told that will receive the car in 2 months time....my god...the waiting game begins....
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bro, have u got yr car? using it now? mind to share got any issue/
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QUOTE(LLH @ Mar 7 2012, 10:04 PM)
bro, have u got yr car? using it now? mind to share got any issue/
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just finished the 1000km service...so far so good....99% up to my expectation....perhaps due to the standard spec of the car i.e not many electronic components as compared to the high spec 2.0....so less problem....the only problem I encountered is the slight rattling sound at the rear left part (passenger seat side) whenever I put on a heavy bass kinda music...other than that...the car is top notch...and fuel efficient too I might add....from shah alam to PJ everyday (morning traffic jam) using federal highway...only took me RM70 per week....
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QUOTE(zad78 @ Mar 9 2012, 03:35 PM)
just finished the 1000km service...so far so good....99% up to my expectation....perhaps due to the standard spec of the car i.e not many electronic components as compared to the high spec 2.0....so less problem....the only problem I encountered is the slight rattling sound at the rear left part (passenger seat side) whenever I put on a heavy bass kinda music...other than that...the car is top notch...and fuel efficient too I might add....from shah alam to PJ everyday (morning traffic jam) using federal highway...only took me RM70 per week....
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Thks for sharing. Seems like the car does not have many problems . How about service cost, spare parts availability etc? FC roughly how much in terms of rm/km
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QUOTE(LLH @ Mar 9 2012, 03:43 PM)
Thks for sharing. Seems like the car does not have many problems . How about service cost, spare parts availability etc? FC roughly how much in terms of rm/km
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first service only cost me RM170...Spare part no problem as I usually do my service at Hyundai HQ at Glenmarie...the one thing I could attest to you with regards to FC is that it is REALLY a fuel efficient car in its class. most probably it was due to the ECO indicator on the dash board which reminds you if you press the accelerator pedal to low i.e. heavy footer.....
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QUOTE(zad78 @ Mar 9 2012, 03:50 PM)
first service only cost me RM170...Spare part no problem as I usually do my service at Hyundai HQ at Glenmarie...the one thing I could attest to you with regards to FC is that it is REALLY a fuel efficient car in its class. most probably it was due to the ECO indicator on the dash board which reminds you if you press the accelerator pedal to low i.e. heavy footer.....
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I have heard of engine vibration n noise how is it
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QUOTE(LLH @ Mar 9 2012, 03:56 PM)
I have heard of engine vibration n noise how is it
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engine vibration and noise for me are acceptable....if compared to camry....of coz camry is much more smoother...but in terms of looks...cannot challenge sonata wan.....
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QUOTE(zad78 @ Mar 9 2012, 04:34 PM)
engine vibration and noise for me are acceptable....if compared to camry....of coz camry is much more smoother...but in terms of looks...cannot challenge sonata wan.....
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Agreed . In fact i think it is one of the best desined D segment car in the market . I suppose the vibration n noise are not very serious right? How is it compared to your previous car when it was new
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QUOTE(LLH @ Mar 9 2012, 04:40 PM)
Agreed . In fact i think it is one of the best desined D segment car in the market . I suppose the vibration n noise are not very serious right? How is it compared to your previous car when it was new
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you mean the camry?....i could assure you that the engine still sound 'smooth' even after three years...
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QUOTE(zad78 @ Mar 9 2012, 05:20 PM)
you mean the camry?....i could assure you that the engine still sound 'smooth' even after three years...
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I see, how about compared to other common cars? Will it be to the extent of annoying/unbearable?
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QUOTE(LLH @ Mar 9 2012, 05:47 PM)
I see, how about compared to other common cars? Will it be to the extent of annoying/unbearable?
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Compared to campro gen2. It's like heaven and earth
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Compared to campro gen2.  It's like heaven and earth
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What is the difference between std & High specs? Sunroof, pushstart & power seat only right? Actually I m from the north, there aren't many sonata here, i worry abt spare parts cost & availability
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QUOTE(zad78 @ Mar 9 2012, 04:34 PM)
engine vibration and noise for me are acceptable....if compared to camry....of coz camry is much more smoother...but in terms of looks...cannot challenge sonata wan.....
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The engine vibration problem apparently was due to faulty mountings. I have recently claimed warranty claimed on the 3 engine mountings.. Now the car really superb dy.. No more vibration on the dashboard & even seats haha rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(LLH @ Mar 9 2012, 09:57 PM)
What is the difference between std & High specs? Sunroof, pushstart & power seat only right? Actually I m from the north, there aren't many sonata here, i worry abt spare parts cost & availability
I wonder why would ppl still consider the Sonata when the Optima is more value for money. Unless they prefer the looks of the Sonata, i dont see any other reason to get one.
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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 14 2012, 11:47 AM)
The engine vibration problem apparently was due to faulty mountings. I have recently claimed warranty claimed on the 3 engine mountings.. Now the car really superb dy.. No more vibration on the dashboard & even seats haha  rclxms.gif
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Seems like ur vibration was a serious issue. Mine is not that bad until need to change the mountings.

 

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