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Divas
post Mar 25 2010, 12:46 PM

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Yep expat here. But i grew up in asia so it isn't such a shock, just saddening. I understand that people are brought up in different ways with different ideas about what is cruel and what isn't but what frustrates me is when people are supplied with the facts and still don't want to try other solutions. When people come to my shop with a dog that is obviously treated badly, i sit them down and discuss what they do and what would be a better way of getting the results they want (if they will even hang around for 5 minutes to see what the problem is). Only about 25% of the people i have talked to show any kind of improvement in the care of their dog (and those are normally the ones who just don't know what to do, not the ones who actually physically harm/torture their dogs).
So that is why i have resorted to sitting on forums, here people are asking for help so chances are they will actually listen to the advice people give and try out new training methods or food types or whatever else it is
(also the dogs on the forum are far better taken care of than a lot of the ones who stroll into my shop every 6 months for a total shave down which helps keep my spirits up biggrin.gif ).
abesabraham
post Mar 27 2010, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Mar 7 2010, 08:23 PM)
How do you actually train a dog to like just bark twice? I've seen a youtube video, and she said let the dog bark twice, then treat her. Wouldn't treating reward the barking, thus encouraging the dog to bark more when it doesn't get its treat after barking twice?
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Dogs are not humans, if you ignore the deed of them barking for a treat, they won't do it.

My dog handshakes EVERYTIME he sees a treat. SO, according to your information, does he handshake ALL THE TIME just to get a treat? No, common sense please.

A dog is not a dog if it cannot bark.

Also, if you have no time to take care of your dog, just give him away lor. Imagine if you're not home and something bad *touch wood* happens to him. Who will be there to take care of your dog? Think of the bigger picture here. You might love your dog, but leaving him at home with you ain't enough. Think thoroughly. Debarking is really, really cruel.
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post Mar 29 2010, 10:49 AM

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Agree, Debarking is NOT NICE! NOT 1 BIT. But i also have the same problem, my terrier bark from 3am to 6am DAILY! NON STOP! Im getting a Anti Back Collar, but not the spray version, THE ZAP VERSION. Truth is, i only scold my dog when he done something bad, such as Digging in the Drain and Barking, What i hate most is, u cant go scold him everytime he barks, especially 3am in the morning, and u r inside and he is outside, Best thing to do is to get the Anti Bark Collar. And i love my dog for everything includes, he eat Pizza and burger, except Barking At Nothing.
Divas
post Mar 30 2010, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(Daniel Chok @ Mar 29 2010, 10:49 AM)
And i love my dog for everything includes, he eat Pizza and burger, except Barking At Nothing.
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You shouldn't feed your dog pizza, burgers or any other human food, especially be aware that dogs commonly have intolerance to onions and garlic both of which are commonly used in a lot of human food. Dogs also commonly develop allergies to corn which is a main ingredient in a lot of bread like products. Dogs are also commonly lactose intolerant, meaning that milk based products can cause them problems,especially later in life when their digestive system is weaker. Finally dogs shouldn't eat products that are fried or use a lot of fat as they have the same issues processing this fat as we do which can lead to obesity problems as well as clogged arteries and heart attacks...
If you don't want to only give your dog kibble, try looking online for some dog safe recipes so you can make a tasty and safe meal for you and your dog.

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post Mar 31 2010, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(Divas @ Mar 30 2010, 07:05 PM)
You shouldn't feed your dog pizza, burgers or any other human food, especially be aware that dogs commonly have intolerance to onions and garlic both of which are commonly used in a lot of human food. Dogs also commonly develop allergies to corn which is a main ingredient in a lot of bread like products. Dogs are also commonly lactose intolerant, meaning that milk based products can cause them problems,especially later in life when their digestive system is weaker. Finally dogs shouldn't eat products that are fried or use a lot of fat as they have the same issues processing this fat as we do which can lead to obesity problems as well as clogged arteries and heart attacks...
If you don't want to only give your dog kibble, try looking online for some dog safe recipes so you can make a tasty and safe meal for you and your dog.
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I cant believe got ppl to say these to me, Especially in a "Debarking" topic. My dog is now 7 Years Old. And almost every month he eat two slice of Pizzas but not the onions(I dont have to take it out). He seems okay and healthy 2 me. Quite playful, very active and a good jumper. And u say Milk Base food is no good? What about Milk Itself? My Dog Drink every night, So, not every dog is the same?
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post Mar 31 2010, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(Daniel Chok @ Mar 31 2010, 06:35 PM)
I cant believe got ppl to say these to me, Especially in a "Debarking" topic. My dog is now 7 Years Old. And almost every month he eat two slice of Pizzas but not the onions(I dont have to take it out). He seems okay and healthy 2 me. Quite playful, very active and a good jumper. And u say Milk Base food is no good? What about Milk Itself? My Dog Drink every night, So, not every dog is the same?
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Divas is right. Do a bit of research online and you will find she is not lying or making things up. She is just concerned about your dog, not trying to have a go at you.
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post Mar 31 2010, 10:10 PM

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Oh waw.. Thx for that.
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post Apr 1 2010, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Daniel Chok @ Mar 31 2010, 06:35 PM)
I cant believe got ppl to say these to me, Especially in a "Debarking" topic. My dog is now 7 Years Old. And almost every month he eat two slice of Pizzas but not the onions(I dont have to take it out). He seems okay and healthy 2 me. Quite playful, very active and a good jumper. And u say Milk Base food is no good? What about Milk Itself? My Dog Drink every night, So, not every dog is the same?
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If you choose to feed your dog things that are bad for them, its your choice, but don't act surprised when you tell people about it on a public forum for pet lovers and someone picks you up on it... Yes all dogs are different, just like all people are different... but dog's digestive tracts are all the same, even if your dog has developed an immunity to the immediate effects of things such as milk and corn, over time they will still wear down your dogs digestive system and lead to more complex problems in later life (a dog's natural life span is estimated at between 15 to 20 years).

Put it this way, I'm a smoker, if someone tells me smoking is bad for me and i turn around and say "I've been smoking for 5 years and i'm still healthy" they would think i was a complete moron who was living in total denial of the fact that i was doing something bad for myself. However if instead i say "I'm aware of the risks and lead an otherwise healthy life, so i'm willing to accept any health related consequences" then i am an informed person who is choosing to do something despite knowing the proven medical risks, its my life and my choice.

If you are aware of the fact that giving junk food to your dog is unhealthy but choose to do it anyway, that's your choice, as long as you are aware of the potential health risks later on in life (heart attack, digestive tract issues, bloat etc) and are willing to bare all responsibility and costs, however arguing that feeding your dog things like milk and junk food isn't potentially bad for their health is just silly, there are many studied done that prove undeniably that they are bad for all dogs and can cause serious health complications (both in the short and long term).
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post Apr 8 2010, 01:48 PM

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PLS think if u r d dog itself... wat wld u feel if ur owner make ur voice away???

i dunno if u guys believe in reincarnation n karma? i believe in it. Once u do it, next round is ur turn.
So wat ever u trying to do... pls think it on their shoes...

~cheers~
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post Aug 18 2016, 01:28 AM

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From: give donasi ............................
today mpsp come with van full of many worker , u know........

someone report my dog ,

and they climb the steel grill even to count my dog , and write a warning stating only can hv 3.......................

i actually hv think of this , how is the cost and how it is compare to the no bark electric collar
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post Aug 18 2016, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(DSEcomp @ Aug 18 2016, 01:28 AM)
today mpsp come with van full of many worker , u know........

someone report my dog ,

and they climb the steel grill even to count my dog , and write a warning stating only can hv 3.......................

i actually hv think of this , how is the cost and how it is compare to the no bark electric collar
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How many dogs do you have?

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