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 [Review] Roccat Kave - Updated 8:55PM 27/Oct/2010, real 5.1 surround sound headset

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GundamManiac
post May 19 2010, 12:49 AM

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One of the higher-end from Creative. Made for gaming. Good price.

I bought the XtremeMusic at RM 400 back in 2005 when it first came out.

But now, I am liking my Asus Xonar Essence.

Almost want to say Creative s#@ks, but I am sure I will get bombarded with hate mails. tongue.gif

Creative is good for gaming, but if you want an all-rounder, consider the Asus line of sound cards.

I am surprised at how well the Essence performs in gaming. Creative still wins hands-down, but if you are not a hardcore gamer, then the Essence is good enough for gaming, and ultimate in music. lust.gif
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post May 19 2010, 02:48 AM

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oh maiii~ wub.gif

finally i found an ultimate way to maximize the vibration!

just lower everything on your EQ below 50% and let Sub @ 100%. by that, its mean the overall volume will be reduce by half without affecting your Bass and Subwoofer. rclxms.gif

if before this you only use till 20% (based on Windows Volume Level), but now you can use at 40% for 20% but the bass is still at 40% biggrin.gif
GundamManiac
post May 19 2010, 10:30 AM

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Dude, that was in my screenshot that I posted some time back.

You didn't see?
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post May 19 2010, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(GundamManiac @ May 19 2010, 10:30 AM)
Dude, that was in my screenshot that I posted some time back.

You didn't see?
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you mean the EQ that comes with Kave?

both CounterStrike and MW2 have vibration (TS mentioned they have no vibration if i am not mistaken)
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post May 19 2010, 02:38 PM

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Oh, you meant the EQ on the Kave.

I meant the EQ on the Creative Launcher.
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post May 19 2010, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(GundamManiac @ May 19 2010, 02:38 PM)
Oh, you meant the EQ on the Kave.

I meant the EQ on the Creative Launcher.
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yep. i did meant about EQ that comes with Kave.

and i don't disturb the EQ in the Creative Luncher though, just disable them. scared they will disturb original sound produced.. sweat.gif
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post May 19 2010, 02:52 PM

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Errr... isn't the reason why you want a gaming sound card is to process the sound produce? The EQ for Creative Launcher is one of the things that you must configure, otherwise, you will not be able to bring out the best of the sound.

Gaming sound and movie sound requires processing. They are digital.

On the other hand, if you are talking about music, then you DO NOT want to process the sound. If that is the case, Creative sound cards not NOT the ones you should be choosing.

Asus Xonar Essence!!!

Asus should give me money for promoting their products so much! nod.gif
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post May 19 2010, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(GundamManiac @ May 19 2010, 02:52 PM)
Errr... isn't the reason why you want a gaming sound card is to process the sound produce? The EQ for Creative Launcher is one of the things that you must configure, otherwise, you will not be able to bring out the best of the sound.

Gaming sound and movie sound requires processing. They are digital.

On the other hand, if you are talking about music, then you DO NOT want to process the sound. If that is the case, Creative sound cards not NOT the ones you should be choosing.

Asus Xonar Essence!!!

Asus should give me money for promoting their products so much!  nod.gif
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no no. my last post is referring to songs, not games and movie.

for sure i turn on everything when gaming and movie biggrin.gif

anyway, how much is Asus Xonar Essence? you coupled it with Kave too? guess i will have two external soundcard later... Asus Xonar Essence is not external, isn't it?

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post May 19 2010, 04:46 PM

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No, not external. Internal PCI-E.

Bought it at RM 530. Coupled it with Audio Technica ATH-M30. Still have yet to try the Kave with it.
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[*]Did some research, static noise was created by PC Beep, mute it at Windows Sound control panel and the noise is gone. Kave works like a charm now


First of all you have my respect on this detailed review,good job did it like a PRO, ok , i have one pair of this headset, why im am writing to you is because i'm still trying to get rid of the "static noise" or background noise i constantly hear (like a seashell u have near your ear) , the backgroud / static noise gets louder at higher volumes (50% + /especialy from headphones on wire equalizer) . I tryed them on my friends computers , the noise its still there. I must mention that neither me or my friends got a sound card, we used just the on board ones, but its annoying. My specs: MB Abit P35 Pro ICH9R Chipset /On board 7.1 CH HD Audio CODEC / Realtek

Can u plz tell me,and other that may have this isue where u found answer to this problem , or what sound u deactivated/muted from sound card that now the headphone "works like a charm now". From a gamer to another gamer Respect.

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post May 19 2010, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(BUnicutZza @ May 19 2010, 05:11 PM)
First of all you have my respect on this detailed review,good job did it like a PRO, ok , i have one pair of this headset, why im am writing to you is because i'm still trying to get rid of  the "static noise" or background noise i constantly hear (like a seashell u have near your ear) , the backgroud / static noise gets louder at higher volumes (50% + /especialy from headphones on wire equalizer) . I tryed them on my friends computers , the noise its still there. I must mention that neither me or my friends got a sound card, we used just the on board ones, but its annoying. My specs: MB Abit P35 Pro ICH9R Chipset /On board 7.1 CH HD Audio CODEC / Realtek

Can u plz tell me,and other that may have this isue where u found answer to this problem , or what sound u deactivated/muted from sound card that now the headphone "works like a charm now". From a gamer to another gamer Respect.
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Thanks for the compliments.

In respect to your question, I've answered a similar question to Mr.Docter, thus:
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This post has been edited by Silverfire: May 19 2010, 06:50 PM
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post May 19 2010, 06:54 PM

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@ BUnicutZza:

if you can't find the setting as Silverfire shown, check the update here :

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry33842969
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post May 19 2010, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ May 19 2010, 01:45 PM)
Thanks for the compliments.

In respect to your question, I've answered a similar question to Mr.Docter, thus:
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Ok , so donne that , and no result on the static/ background noise . So i emailed Roccat Suport team my isue, and its like this:

2 Moths ago i purchased Roccat Kave headphones, and sice then im trying to solve my isue with the staic noise/ background noise/ white noise (like u constantly have a seashell near youre ears). Its becoming anoying and i dont use them enymore. I tryed them on my friends computers, same result (like me , my friends dont own a sound card). The noise gets louder when i increase the volume (from wire equalizer CENTE?FRONT/REAR) pass 30%+ volume (microphone on/off or unpluged from headset or motherboard does not unfluence the static annoying noise), how Im I supose to enjoy the product?. I can tell u that my "microfhone boost" from sound card options its always on +0% gain. Tryed dezinstaling the sound card driver and use the driver windows 7 provides me, same result. Respect to the tehnicians implicated in the project making them, Professional headphones, ill try and get some answers. My oppinion is the USB power cable needed for the headphones that resonates with the motherboard internal circuits and PC activities, because when i use my mouse (Roccat Kone/USB) or keyboard Keysonic KSK-8001 UEL/USB (when i hold down eny key )i can hear an electric sound , like the hisssing from old modems trying to connnect to the internet (not jokeing). Eny ideeas? should i send them in service? replace them ...
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post May 19 2010, 07:03 PM

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Did you try using speakers again and putting the volume to full to see if you get the same effect? Could just be crosstalk from the motherboard.
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post May 19 2010, 07:04 PM

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So you muted the PC Beep but you're still hearing the statics?

Mr.Docter: Sorry man, didn't had time to respond to your PM. Had too much to do these days, with hospital, college and family.

This post has been edited by Silverfire: May 19 2010, 07:14 PM
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post May 19 2010, 07:42 PM

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[quote=Silverfire,May 19 2010, 02:04 PM]
So you muted the PC Beep but you're still hearing the statics?

PC beep off = yep the sound is still there. momentary im using some stereo Phillips headphones SHM6103 model , excellent model smile.gif . @bryan No backgound noise from speakes on full volume . In my opinion and 2 months of online search is that these model of headphones use this USB cable to powerup the headset, and they are not EMI protected , or they are but the motherboard and PC circuit activities still manage to bypass and through that USB conection , u can hear the intern electric activity of youre PC (keyboard function/mouse/HDD activities), its my only answer to what its happening. Shame, hope they next product dont use and such an fault usb adapter just to power it, when u can use just the JACKS for stereo/5.1/7.1 surround sound.

Still waiting for an response from the Roccat Suport team.

This post has been edited by BUnicutZza: May 19 2010, 07:44 PM
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BUnicutZza thanks for sharing your research. Hope you get it resolved. Am expecting mine in the next few days and hope it'll be ok.
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post May 19 2010, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(bryan @ May 19 2010, 02:48 PM)
BUnicutZza thanks for sharing your research. Hope you get it resolved. Am expecting mine in the next few days and hope it'll be ok.
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Oo, Roccat comunity will have another elite gamer in the ranks, respect bryan. have one desire : share youre experience and sound quality of the headset with us, and tell us if the problem i have its just on my headset. 10x i'll PM u if u foget smile.gif

PS: Respect to Silverfire and others on this awesome forum, for replying in such sort notice and for cerebral responses smile.gif

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QUOTE(BUnicutZza @ May 19 2010, 07:42 PM)
PC beep off = yep the sound is still there. momentary im using some stereo Phillips headphones SHM6103 model , excellent model smile.gif . @bryan No backgound noise from speakes on full volume . In my opinion and 2 months of online search is that these model of headphones use this USB cable to powerup the headset, and they are not EMI protected , or they are but the motherboard and PC circuit activities still manage to bypass and through that USB conection , u can hear the intern electric activity of youre PC (keyboard function/mouse/HDD activities), its my only answer to what its happening. Shame, hope they next product dont use and such an fault usb adapter just to power it, when u can use just the JACKS for stereo/5.1/7.1 surround sound.

Still waiting for an response from the Roccat Suport team.
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Sorry to hear that, I've no more ideas on how to solve your problem. notworthy.gif
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post May 19 2010, 10:11 PM

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[quote=Silverfire,May 19 2010, 07:04 PM]
So you muted the PC Beep but you're still hearing the statics?

Mr.Docter: Sorry man, didn't had time to respond to your PM. Had too much to do these days, with hospital, college and family.
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its okay my man smile.gif

thanks for the fast reply on that day laugh.gif


[quote=BUnicutZza,May 19 2010, 07:42 PM]
[quote=Silverfire,May 19 2010, 02:04 PM]
So you muted the PC Beep but you're still hearing the statics?

PC beep off = yep the sound is still there. momentary im using some stereo Phillips headphones SHM6103 model , excellent model smile.gif . @bryan No backgound noise from speakes on full volume . In my opinion and 2 months of online search is that these model of headphones use this USB cable to powerup the headset, and they are not EMI protected , or they are but the motherboard and PC circuit activities still manage to bypass and through that USB conection , u can hear the intern electric activity of youre PC (keyboard function/mouse/HDD activities), its my only answer to what its happening. Shame, hope they next product dont use and such an fault usb adapter just to power it, when u can use just the JACKS for stereo/5.1/7.1 surround sound.

Still waiting for an response from the Roccat Suport team.
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well you still lucky because have option to tweak that PC Beep Setting. mine don't.

so what should i do now? sad.gif

and may i know what is email address of Roccat Support Team?


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