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 The University of Nottingham - Malaysia Campus v3,, Best University in Malaysia so Far

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post Jul 31 2010, 12:45 PM

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in malaysia, the rankings don't really matter.

people are more concerned about the price, environment, and where their friends are going to study.
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post Jul 31 2010, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Jul 31 2010, 12:49 PM)
no more like just where their friends are going to study. hmm... it is? why is notts ranked lower than monash? i though notts has more money poured into research and better facilities.
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bro..when we talk about this ranking thingy.. we compare internationally..go and have a look at notts in uk and monash in australia..

if we wanna look closer here in malaysia, you can easily see who has more financial backing.

nottingham's campus is big, no doubt about it, but where is it located? compared to monash. the difference of land prices in these 2 areas are certainly very big. smile.gif


QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Jul 31 2010, 12:57 PM)
At least I don't. biggrin.gif
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me too.

going monash all alone. unsure.gif
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post Jul 31 2010, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Jul 31 2010, 02:32 PM)
lol and also very misleading. hmm... i wonder what else can improve a university official ranking.
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the research they do. facilities.. job employment rate of students... a lot lor unsure.gif
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post Jul 31 2010, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Jul 31 2010, 03:05 PM)
hmm... when was monash built in malaysia?
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1998 when it first shared its campus with sunway.

2008 when it has an independent building.
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post Jul 31 2010, 03:22 PM

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can you at least try to google?

2005.
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post Jul 31 2010, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(exzau @ Jul 31 2010, 04:35 PM)
link to arwu: http://www.arwu.org/ARWU2009.jsp

this is how qs-times calculate their rankings: http://www.topuniversities.com/university-...simple-overview

this is how arwu calculate it: http://www.arwu.org/ARWUMethodology2009.jsp

compare for yourselves
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lolz. that survey is 100% based on academics which is unfortunately not quite suitable in todays world.

we are talking more about graduate attributes, about high employment rates of students who graduated from that uni.

not how many Nobel Prize winners that uni has. 20 marks for this criteria. astounding. having a Nobel Prize winner does not guarantee quality education for the students.


* For institutions specialized in humanities and social sciences such as London School of Economics, N&S is not considered, and the weight of N&S is relocated to other indicators.
see, these rankings dun even cover those aspects. what? means LSE is bad because it does not have scientific research?

on the other hand, if you wanna look at research and work in the acedemic field for the rest of your life, then yes, please follow that arwu rankings.

having Nobel prize winners and whatever award holders as your lecturers will certainly make a lot of difference in your thesis and research work..

Added on July 31, 2010, 5:18 pm
QUOTE(exzau @ Jul 31 2010, 04:15 PM)
you are probably referring to Times-QS ranking where monash is ranked at 45 while nottingham is at 91 (http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2009/results) but this ranking is misleading as it focuses heavily on surveys and peer reviews (fake)

ARWU ranking is more established and accurate as it focuses on research output and quality of professor. Here, nottingham is ranked at 83 while monash is at 201-302.
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not only times.

entryman has posted few other ranking bodies in his previous posts and monash outranks nottingham in general.



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post Jul 31 2010, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(exzau @ Jul 31 2010, 05:50 PM)
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Added on July 31, 2010, 5:56 pm

I didn;t catch this the first time. QS-Times and Arwu are the two most popular rankings that are mostly reffered to.
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ah well, everybody can say that the results can be faked. but if that's the case, why can't the lower ranked uni fake the survey as well?

what have got against students from africa? those who managed to got into those top uni in UK and australia are even better than you and I.

producing creative & innovative students doesn't mean they will succeed in the working world.

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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Jul 31 2010, 05:25 PM)
Is Monash Tier 1?
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Tier 1 in what? the setara ratings? unsure.gif

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post Jul 31 2010, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ Jul 31 2010, 06:41 PM)
aiyo, in the end of the day, a degree is to cari makan ma. Can cari makan enough lo.

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@zstan, no, the 'tier' thing in Setara is terbalik from what is the norm in international standards. So, internationally, Tier 1 is like the elite schools.

UNott is considered Tier wat ah? Nottingham Trent is Tier-3, right?
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who classify them into respective tiers? hmm.gif
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post Jul 31 2010, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Jul 31 2010, 08:23 PM)
yeah agree a degree is to cari makan. it doesn't entirely define who u are and if u really wanted to gain more knowledge. There are ton's of cheaper means to do that. anyway i've checked out monash and nottingham. I'm going to enrol to nottingham this september in social science department studying applied psychology with management studies.
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not really..

graduating from a prestigious uni gives u an upper hand when u apply for MNC.. quoted from entryman tongue.gif
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post Jul 31 2010, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ Jul 31 2010, 10:23 PM)
Ah I thought a good analogy. Tier system is much like the social class in society. It's not official, but it's just taken as it is.

But locally, Nott and Monash graduates are considered competitive candidates, right?
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not really as well.

after your first/2nd/3rd job... nobody will ask where did you graduate from anymore...
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post Jul 31 2010, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ Jul 31 2010, 10:51 PM)
@entryman, i dunno, i always look up to those from UM USM and UKM (in that order). Had a choice to join them but decided I could do better. smile.gif

@zstan aiyo now all noob like me worry is about 1st job ma. haha. But if the boss happens to be an alumnus, got advantage  brows.gif  whistling.gif
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ahahhaa... dun need worry too much la if u plan to work locally...my cousin from kbu also managed to get into intel.. wink.gif
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post Jul 31 2010, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ Jul 31 2010, 10:57 PM)
lol UNMC thread really nothing to chat about ah, have to chat about non-UNMC-related stuff.
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UNMC students all busy enjoying summer holidays where will come one... unsure.gif
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post Aug 4 2010, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(entryman @ Aug 4 2010, 10:08 PM)
Solely limiting ourselves to Malaysia, is there anything better?

Alternative,
1. Monash
2. CAT&ACCA tuition
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i salute your speed of editting. notworthy.gif laugh.gif

almost wanted to comment about that tongue.gif
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post Aug 5 2010, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(Cenarius @ Aug 5 2010, 08:28 PM)
went to nottingham today to apply. weird though, maybe i went on a wrong timing, but the whole campus looks deserted. i swear the number of students i saw were less than my total fingers.

btw, anyone heard of applicants facing rejection from the institution? the office guy told me that successful application is based on the results and how strong my personal statement is. my results are mediocre, not sure if the statement will propel me forward..
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it's SUMMER holiday broooooo~~ rclxm9.gif


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post Aug 9 2010, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 9 2010, 11:56 AM)
For the record, I don't have enough money for those anyway yawn.gif
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for the record, if you can go into those unis i am sure JPA will be more than willing to sponsor you.
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post Aug 11 2010, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(thomas_mo @ Aug 11 2010, 01:11 PM)
hey guys. how long does e application usually take? in e website is stated that they can get back to me within two weeks and it has been two weeks! damm i rejected monash to wait for nottingham. hope they do give me good news!
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why u rejected monash when u didn't even get a place in notts? unsure.gif

didn't u call them?
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post Aug 11 2010, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ Aug 11 2010, 02:36 PM)
unless there're lot and lot of students this intake, i doubt we won't be classmates.
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your sentence is contradicting la. lol.
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post Aug 15 2010, 06:42 PM

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why u guys hostels so expensive one? rclxub.gif
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post Aug 15 2010, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(tanjinjack @ Aug 15 2010, 07:28 PM)
I have been thinking this question for two years. Too hard to build a room in a forest I guess.

Added on August 15, 2010, 7:29 pm465 is two people share one bathroom where it's one door away from the toilet, and it's by Pioneer (slightly nearer to campus.)
435 is few people (4?) share one bathroom, two doors away (your room door then the toilet door), and it's by Perintis, further a bit lo.
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one door away means? if few doors away then cheaper?

this is an individual unit or a whole hostel building?
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post Aug 16 2010, 09:49 AM

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rm465 is cut throat la...

especially so when its in the 'forest'..but usually students who can affords nots are from above average to well to do families and they are taking advantage of this..

my previous hostel at ucsi..2 person bedroom..full furnished with a big cabinet and shoe cabinet..bed..table..all in all rm420 per month..although we need to share the toilet..

however the toilet is cleaned every alternate day by a cleaner...there's a pantry with microwave n fridge..and laundry services is included..

and i thought mine was expensive. rclxub.gif
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