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post Aug 11 2010, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Kaizoku @ Aug 11 2010, 06:05 AM)
ok..thanx...hehhehe..

But...what's the market price on this mouse anyway??.. hmm.gif
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Around RM 140. Anything above and customers will have a better option.

QUOTE(Jeffrey1987 @ Aug 11 2010, 06:15 AM)
You are welcome . . .  brows.gif Plan to get a new gaming mouse . . . I recommend you to have a look on Logitech G700 . . . super SEXY!  laugh.gif

http://www.logitech.com/de-de/gaming/mice-...00Getthedetails
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Yes my young padawan, you must procure the mouse tongue.gif

QUOTE(viruz019 @ Aug 11 2010, 01:41 PM)
thx a lot for helping me out! biggrin.gif..reli appreciate it..but according to gentech..he say DHL got bad reputation there..i tink normal postage will do ><L
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That is his standard reply, meh. I think they couldn't get a good deal with DHL.

QUOTE(nerodante80 @ Aug 11 2010, 02:39 PM)
Is there any thread for G73JH owners like the Alienware mothership? I like to state my name as one proud owner of a G73JH-A1, and discuss about performance of this machine, it's problems and solutions etc. Oh yea, i managed to solve the famous GSOD problem already (using latest catalyst 10.7 and new vbios), and running very cool after reapplying tim (ICD7). Cheers...
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Where did you get the new vbios?!!? As far as I know there is no official vbios from Asus. All the vbios floating around the net for the G73 are modded, MSI or Clevo vbios that removes functionality one way or the other. Did you apply the ICD7 yourself or did you get the service center to do it?
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post Aug 11 2010, 06:46 PM

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Chastity from NBR even had problems with her re-paste. After reading several threads where user's attempted to do a re-paste they screwed up the laptop even further particularly the keyboard. It's easy to obtain a replacement keyboard in the US but not down here in Malaysia. I'm just wondering if it's worth all the trouble just to re-paste the TIM when it could all be a timing issue with the Vrams that can be resolved from an updated vbios.

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post Aug 13 2010, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(psjjl @ Aug 11 2010, 04:16 PM)
@nerodante80

If you don't mind to give me some guide on how to apply the IC7 easily on CPU and GPU. thx in advance.
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I might be making a video guide with nerodante80 once my order of IC Diamond 7 comes from USA. Order placed today and I ordered two extra units. Any G73JH owners in KL who wants one can PM me and we can arrange something. However after reading the quote below I might just get Asus service center to apply it. Not sure yet but I will make the decision once I receive my items.

QUOTE(viruz019 @ Aug 12 2010, 12:18 AM)
guys..if i buy the laptop from US...then i get a thermal paste..can i send it to the asus service centre to help me apply it?
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QUOTE(evern @ Aug 12 2010, 01:00 AM)
Yes you can


Added on August 12, 2010, 9:38 am

I think GSOD has less to do with TIM re-paste, here's my guide to solve your GSOD

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry34776771

But if you ever need TIM re-paste just send it to ASUS they'll do it for you


Added on August 12, 2010, 1:57 pmUpdates on temp: last night i tried putting laptop on coolerpad coolermaster Notepal X2, idle/load at 62c/75c, clockspeed 750/1000, previously i get max 88c cos was putting laptop on top of pillow, well i guess it's good enough, i'm using Ziddy's V3 vBios from NBR and experiencing black SOD on Catalyst 10.7a, nerodante can you please share your vBios?
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@evern, when you sent your unit in the Asus service center how long did it take for them to apply the TIM for you? Did you even get the chance to see them apply the TIM on your GPU?

QUOTE(psjjl @ Aug 12 2010, 09:15 PM)
I found that I can't play games with Win7 64bit. The game keep crashing when I launch it,exp: Dawn of War II. Any solution on that?
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If it's not original then it is the steam version. Uninstall the creative audio driver or disable Bass Boost in the creative settings. If you want to use Bass Boost, make sure to turn on CMSS-3D or steam will crash your laptop every time tongue.gif

Watch out in my signature for the IC Diamond 7 Carat. Only two for sale tongue.gif I'm planning to either get the service center to apply it or get my friend who is an E&E guy to help apply the TIM with nerodante80 if he is able to assist. If we are going to DIY, we will record the whole procedure and post it here to assist other owners who wants to attempt it in the future wink.gif
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post Aug 13 2010, 06:02 AM

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New Bios version out at Asus site, v211 biggrin.gif
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post Aug 13 2010, 06:07 AM

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Full Change Log For Bios 211:
To support WiMax device for Wireless Console 3.
- The wireless LED will not be changed after WiMax device is turned on or off via Wireless Console 3 interface.
- Wireless Console 3 will see WiMax but not BT and the system has BT but not WiMax device.
- Locked USB interface or BT device in BIOS Setup utility and boot to OS, Wireless Console still have Bluetooth icon but Bluetooth device is still present in device manager.
- Wireless Console will still show BT/WiMax icon after locking all USB ports.
- To update thermal policy for VGA TSD issue.


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post Aug 13 2010, 06:28 AM

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Just Flashed to Bios v211 without any problems. WARNING! Fans are significantly louder than before! I couldn't hear my fans before but now I can actually hear them spinning. To early to report thermal readings just yet tongue.gif
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QUOTE(amir_kaldra @ Aug 13 2010, 06:20 AM)
@Jeffrey1987

60 pounds because Ken declared the laptop value for USD 300. Convert to pounds multiply with 0.175 add services charge = 60 pounds.

Laptop in great conditions
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Imagine if he declared the actual price mate, you will be buggered. He did that for me too but didn't do much good down here in Malaysia with the exemption we enjoy down here tongue.gif
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post Aug 13 2010, 06:32 AM

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QUOTE(Jeffrey1987 @ Aug 13 2010, 06:28 AM)
They believed that the notebook costs 300 USD?  laugh.gif What is your next step? Accessories . .  . biggrin.gif
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No they won't but he declares it as PC repair and charges at USD 300 tongue.gif It is more believable if it was a repaired/refurbished work wink.gif

OMG, he is using the Force Mind Trick again, LMAO! laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Jeffrey1987 @ Aug 13 2010, 06:30 AM)
May I know how you flash your BIOS? I'm afraid I will brick my notebook . . .  laugh.gif
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Use any flash drive but follow these steps EXACTLY:

1.) Plug in the flash drive to the bottom left USB port.

2.) Backup all data on the flash drive.

3.) Format the flash drive to FAT32 with default allocation. IMPORTANT! DO NOT MISS THIS STEP!

4.) Download the latest bios from Asus support site and extract the bios into the freshly formatted FAT32 flash drive.

5.) Reboot the system and once you see the Asus logo press F2 to enter your bios.

6.) Under the Bios go to advance and start Ezflash.

Optional Step: Some people advice to turn off all lights including the blue bar under the monitor to avoid losing your keyboard lights. I can't confirm it works or not but I turned my off just in case. I still have my KB lights after the flash to 211 tongue.gif

7.) In Ezflash you will see the bios in the right panel. Press enter twice and a screen will pop up requesting to update with Yes Or No. Press Enter for YES and pray like hell tongue.gif

8.) After successful flash laptop will shutdown.

9.) Enjoy your updated Laptop.
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post Aug 13 2010, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Kaizoku @ Aug 13 2010, 10:53 AM)
Yeayyy I got My laptop today!!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

Laptop G73JH-A1= USD1625.25
DHL Shipping = USD100.27
A BIG smile on my Face = PRICELESS!!

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Congratulations mate. I'm using comgateway now for my Intel 6200 card and IC Diamond TIM tongue.gif They are a Singapore based company, that's ironic for you laugh.gif

QUOTE(amir_kaldra @ Aug 13 2010, 12:22 PM)
@Jeffrey1987

Accessories? Hhahahah. maybe later. Now I'm trying to understand window 7. Huh. Been using window xp cause never like vista. Now I have hard time to install Eset due to not enough privilege. Been reading about take ownership been it doesnt seem to work.  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(amir_kaldra @ Aug 13 2010, 12:53 PM)
@lee_what2004

It doesn't work. Almost 2 hours searching the net to fix this. All this security is annoying.
I miss window xp that just keep quite no matter what u do to it. wub.gif
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It does work. I'm using Eset "Ahem" version on my G73JH without any problems wink.gif

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post Aug 13 2010, 05:14 PM

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@Jeffrey > You updated your bios yet? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Kaizoku @ Aug 13 2010, 05:19 PM)
damn....cannot run Farcry2....huhuhu why? why?...hmmmm

It ran for about 1 minute into the game, then blank screen...huhuhuhu
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Are you running stock or updated ATI drivers?
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post Aug 13 2010, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(Jeffrey1987 @ Aug 13 2010, 05:25 PM)
Dude . .  . I'm kinda choke up when I heard some of the users who said that they can't play a particular game as I have never tried any high end games before on my notebook. . . . played only Devil May Cry 4 before . .  . sad.gif
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So far all high end games runs on my rig without any problems except when I update to the latest catalyst 10.7. I've just installed catalyst 10.7a but I haven't tested it yet. I only had 3 GSOD on 10.7 but that was running stock clocks at 700/1000. If I use AMDGPU tool to overclock to 705/1100 the GSOD will not happen. Please do note 10.7/10.7a increases idle temps by about 5~10 degrees. I used to idle at 55~60c now I'm idling at 60~66c sad.gif


Added on August 13, 2010, 5:50 pm
QUOTE(Kaizoku @ Aug 13 2010, 05:43 PM)
I only update to ATI Catalyst 10.7...current bios OEM already 206...

Do i need to change my Vbios??
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No don't change vbios as it's not worth the hassle. Also it's official now at NBR and confirmed by an Asus rep that updating a non-Asus vbios voids your warranty. Also there is a risk you could brick your laptop. It's not a big deal flashing the vbios but if you are not sure how to do it you might end up with a 10K doorstop tongue.gif

I've given you another solution, use AMD GPU Clock Tool and set you clocks to 705/1100 and you should be able to run all games. Only problem is you need to set the clock speeds manually everytime you restart your laptop. If you are confident and want to have it automatically done then update to the vbios in NBR. I will advice to use ziddy's vbios or smilegerard. Other vbios out there will disable HDMI & VGA tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Jeffrey1987 @ Aug 13 2010, 05:50 PM)
I'm really a noob on this BIOS or VBIOS thing . . . have to google it up after my exam and learn something from it . . .  smile.gif
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I'm an experienced IT technician and have 14 years under my belt and I've got to warn you to be extremely cautious. It might not be a big deal for those who updated without issues but I have seen cases when people follow instruction exactly they still manage to brick whatever they were updating. My advice is to do a little research, find the most trustworthy source for a successful update and follow the instruction posted exactly. Oh and of course don't forget to pray with all your might tongue.gif
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post Aug 13 2010, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(Kaizoku @ Aug 13 2010, 06:00 PM)
so speaking about Vbios update, which one did you used? how(step by step)?care to share?
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I'm still on the stock vbios mate. If you want a modded vbios the best bet is to check the link below and follow the instructions EXACTLY!

Ziddy's Vbios v3


Added on August 13, 2010, 6:30 pm
QUOTE(evern @ Aug 12 2010, 03:13 PM)
Nice thanks alot Nero, can you briefly explain what you did in the vBios?


Added on August 12, 2010, 4:19 pm@Nerodante80: bro, may i know is your powerplay working? and what did you actually tweaked to fix the GSOD? is it just enabling powerplay? btw, i'm checking Ziddy's V3 vBios

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gamin...-powerplay.html

and his voltage is lower 1.05v for default clock and 0.9v for 200/500, i'm running his vbios, maybe that explains why my idle temp is higher than yours but my load temp stays below 80.


Added on August 12, 2010, 5:12 pmQuote from Ziddy

"First when you flash with ATi WinFlash and you get a fail notice. DO NOT RESTART YOUR COMPUTER. First flash it again with WinFlash with the default bios, until you get success. Then restart and either use DOS method or reflash with WinFlash."

does it mean that if i flashed the wrong vBIOS i have a chance to undo it by flashing back my stock vBIOS?
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@evern > Just noticed your question here blush.gif

If you get a failed message whenever flashing from windows, DO NOT REBOOT your unit or you WILL BRICK IT!

If you get a failed message, keep using the Winflash program and try flashing back the original stock bios until you get a flashed successful result. It's always advisable to flash in DOS mode than windows because the windows environment is not stable and sometimes causes errors during flashing. Sorry for the late reply tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Kaizoku @ Aug 13 2010, 06:45 PM)
Downloaded the AMD GPU tool..and used it.... sucessfully run Farcry 2....yeay...hehehe
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Good to hear wink.gif Thanks for the information too, this just confirms that most G73JH has the GSOD problem. Going to re-paste my GPU once my TIM arrives & hopefully it will resolve some of the problems biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(evern @ Aug 13 2010, 11:07 PM)
Thanks viperion, no problem as i'm still not sure whether to try other vBios, i'm on Ziddy's right now, no GSOD but laptop freezes, but with the chance of getting to know whether the vBios is a successful flash or not maybe it's better to do it with Winflash, but if there isn't any error message, can we say that the flash WILL NOT brick your lappy?
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Yes, but I cannot confirm as I have not attempted to flash my vbios yet. I'm still on the fence but I will decide after I replace my thermal compound to IC Diamond. I'm not really having issues with GSODs as I don't have much time to game but when I do it rarely GSODs on me. Even if it does, I turn on AMD GPU Clock tool, hit 705/1100 and set clock and all the GSOD vanishes tongue.gif

I reckon Asus will come out with an official vbios soon as NBR is heating up with replies from an official Asus Technical Manager acknowledging the issue and promising a solution from both ATI & Asus is in the works. After my TIM repaste and if I still get GSODs without an official solution from Asus I will flash my vbios as a last resort tongue.gif
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QUOTE(evern @ Aug 14 2010, 07:46 PM)
Let us wish for the best it's just a vBios issue, and not because of the low quality RAM module on the graphic card, btw ppl in NBR says that the clevo vBios solves the issue but leaving hdmi output out, Ziddy's vBios is tweaked from official hence doesn't really solve the problem.
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It's confirmed a vBios issue. The crappy RAM module is causing timing issues hence the reason why we are getting GSOD. If the clevo vBios resolves the issue that just show with a little tweaking of the timing/clocks/voltages we can get a stable 5870 GPU. The problem is ATI issued out a notice to all notebook manufacturers and ASUS was the last to heed the warning. They thought they could ignore the warning and it wouldn't happen to their flagship model. They thought wrong tongue.gif

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QUOTE(amir_kaldra @ Aug 14 2010, 07:52 PM)
@Kaizoku

Can u tell me what tweak that u did to make the graphic very good. I dont know what wrong with my screen or the laptop but the picture look very grainy. Been testing the screen with lots of blu-ray movies but each and every single one played with shitty quality. I played the same blu ray on my 50' tv and its great. Played using kmplayer with coreavc codec and cccp.

Please help. Been bugging me. doh.gif
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Uhmmm, there isn't any program to make the graphic look good. I adviced Kaizoku to download AMD GPU Clock Tool they make his 5870 GPU stable because he couldn't run a game and was getting GSODs. The graphic card in our systems in combination with the RAM is causing problems with the reference ATI drivers. If you update any of the latest ATI drivers your system will hang and you will get a Gray or Black screen. You will need to shut off the power to your notebook and then restart. The only way to improve graphic quality is to use the latest ATI drivers as it improves the drivers adding functionality and bug fixes. The trade off is your system will get unstable and it might hang. To resolve this check my previous posts on the solution when using latest ATI drivers wink.gif


Added on August 14, 2010, 8:24 pm
QUOTE(riku2replica @ Aug 14 2010, 08:19 PM)
i guess, i can wait till later batches gpu then. laugh.gif
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I thought I would have escaped the problem but I was wrong. What's even scary is that's it evident on Kaizoku unit adI bet that was just manufactured last month. The only way this is going to be resolved is for a new stable vBios from Asus like the one for MSI & Clevo for this situation to be resolved. Even with a new batch unless they change the whole production floor you will still get the same batch as us tongue.gif

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QUOTE(amir_kaldra @ Aug 14 2010, 08:52 PM)
@Viperion

Thank you. I think I will wait for stable driver first. Scared might brick the laptop if I update vbios, since I bricked my brother PSP when updating firmware.  sweat.gif

After some reading and testing. Its seem the problems lies with the kmplayer. I tried playing blu-ray on window media player and the quality is acceptable. I should try to play movie with WMP earlier.
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No worries & you're welcome. I will post a solution once it is released biggrin.gif You could also try VLC to play Blu-Ray. However you need the ATI 10.7 drivers to use UVD with VLC but that should make playback smoother and nicer wink.gif The trade off is you need to use AMD GPU Tool to overclock for a stable GPU. Don't worry about GSODs, if your unit doesn't GSOD after running above 15 minutes from start up it shouldn't if you are running normal task. Just remember to overclock your GPU before running games to make it stable.

QUOTE(amir_kaldra @ Aug 14 2010, 10:43 PM)
@Kaizoku

Been playing ahem2 blu-ray. heheheheh
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There is ahem2 blu-ray in the market? Man, I haven't bought any ahem2 for more than ten years, LMAO! tongue.gif

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