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 FOREX | v se7en, the market is very SucKy

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TSInvince_Z
post May 6 2010, 10:32 AM

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so far from my reading, either one win, each need to come u with good economic plan. brits favor conservative over labour. more ppls believe budget cuts n taxes could fix brits economy.
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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ May 6 2010, 10:32 AM)
so far from my reading, either one win, each need to come u with good economic plan. brits favor conservative over labour. more ppls believe budget cuts n taxes could fix brits economy.
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Raising debt against GDP ... sweat.gif

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post May 6 2010, 12:16 PM

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yeah. 12% vs GDP is scary thing to think. still wondering what they will come up with to solve it.

i'm still strong on bearish GU...not until a clear cut solution available. also, a minor win is ain't good too.

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post May 6 2010, 02:01 PM

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i guess ill be scared to put my money in uk banks/companies even theres guarantee.. but when theres nothing to pay back with? financial meltdown
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post May 6 2010, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(luqmanz @ May 5 2010, 10:43 PM)
My long Cable position got burned. There goes my 2% ... LOL
Next step ... going to look for another long entry ...
Waiting for appropriate price action.
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I have switch sides. This is the time to look for short .... rclxm9.gif
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post May 6 2010, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(billytong @ May 6 2010, 09:30 AM)
Just trade with what your own eyes see. Do not try to predict. As far as what I see now, trend is still down for EU. If you want to long, only long when EU makes the lowest point and only when it stop there. Otherwise short. Makes sure all ur trades comes with tight stops loss @ appropriate levels.
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Yo Billy, you'll RIGHT. Just tried it out with GBP/USD & EUR/USD. Just insert a Moving Average 48 /50. Look for a SELL everytime the price breaks it....works like a charm

QUOTE(luqmanz @ May 6 2010, 03:40 PM)
I have switch sides. This is the time to look for short ....  rclxm9.gif
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Ya Luqmnaz, me too, after a few SL. anyway have to be careful of the Bottoming ?? Where is the Bottom, heheh

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QUOTE(Raymondetc @ May 6 2010, 02:44 PM)
Yo Billy, you'll RIGHT. Just tried it out with GBP/USD & EUR/USD. Just insert a Moving Average 48 /50. Look for a SELL everytime the price breaks it....works like a charm
Ya Luqmnaz, me too, after a few SL. anyway have to be careful of the Bottoming ?? Where is the Bottom, heheh
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Just wait for retracement ... for the short hehehe ....
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post May 6 2010, 03:05 PM

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this is why I said use tight stops, best is to set it @ BE+1-10pips. so you lose nothing if it bounce up sharply. ECB press conference can say otherwise. Euro is already on huge over selling area. Any surprise good news can bump this pair up 100-200pips easily & not any of us know what those ECB guys are thinking. We cannot read their minds. tongue.gif

Anyway, I am not into trading today. The EU pair is a wasted mess now. There is no rise to short safety.... how to short? lol then follow by ECB thing. ewww.

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post May 6 2010, 03:16 PM

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buyers dominate the m1 (3.03pm-3.14pm), but seems like it fails to move it up with so much seller absorbing, looking at more price drop in GU when seller dominate
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QUOTE(luqmanz @ May 6 2010, 03:02 PM)
Just wait for retracement ... for the short hehehe ....
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Gonna wait for a few hours some a good retrace ... staying out for now ...
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QUOTE(billytong @ May 6 2010, 04:05 PM)
this is why I said use tight stops, best is to set it @ BE+1-10pips. so you lose nothing if it bounce up sharply. ECB press conference can say otherwise. Euro is already on huge over selling area. Any surprise good news can bump this pair up 100-200pips easily & not any of us know what those ECB guys are thinking. We cannot read their minds.  tongue.gif

Anyway, I am not into trading today. The EU pair is a wasted mess now. There is no rise to short safety.... how to short? lol then follow by ECB thing. ewww.
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So normally your max SL is -10pips?

I remember year 2008 ECB do intervention to control the currency goes lower again. Intervention mean they adjust the currency rates not according to the market trend?

If Greece problem still exist, the EUR/USD still can go to 1.25 easily although extremely oversold, people or traders lost confidence to the EUROS money already. Maybe 1.27 is not consider oversold if 1.45 (few months ago) consider overbought.
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QUOTE(rstusa @ May 6 2010, 03:20 PM)
So normally your max SL is -10pips?

I remember year 2008 ECB do intervention to control the currency goes lower again. Intervention mean they adjust the currency rates not according to the market trend?

If Greece problem still exist, the EUR/USD still can go to 1.25 easily although extremely oversold, people or traders lost confidence to the EUROS money already. Maybe 1.27 is not consider oversold if 1.45 (few months ago) consider overbought.
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Intervention with cash cannot do much, if the entire market sit on the same boat trying to ride against you, nothing can stop it. Central bank can only do as much as they could to move a bit and possibly use verbal intervention tell the market about their "future intentions". All these surprises can easily move this the market 100-200pips easily. Do you think I want to try to read their mind? I dont.

When you are in a oversold region, any surprise good news is a big GOOD news. Thus you need to manage your risk accordingly as ur short are at this low.

Trading forex is not about how you predict the market, it is how to manage your trade plan/ how you manage ur risk. I do not think it is the right idea to short @ this low and have a huge SL like 50pips, because even a little retrancement can run over 50pips. why bother losing 50pips. We are not here to lose 50pips on shorts. especially @ this low.

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QUOTE(billytong @ May 6 2010, 04:40 PM)
Intervention with cash cannot do much, if the entire market sit on the same boat trying to ride against you, nothing can stop it. Central bank can only do as much as they could to move a bit and possibly use verbal intervention tell the market about their "future intentions". All these surprises can easily move this the market 100-200pips easily. Do you think I want to try to read their mind? I dont.

When you are in a oversold region, any surprise good news is a big GOOD news. Thus you need to manage your risk accordingly as ur short are at this low.

Trading forex is not about how you predict the market, it is how to manage your trade plan/ how you manage ur risk. I do not think it is the right idea to short @ this low and have a huge SL like 50pips, because even a little retrancement can run over 50pips. why bother losing 50pips. We are not here to lose 50pips on shorts. especially @ this low.
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As what you said, so verbal intervention can't give much effect on the currency and now all the traders are smart in trading.
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post May 6 2010, 03:45 PM

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looks like m1,m5,m15 dominated by buy signal
"in these intervals.. 10mins news is old news"
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QUOTE(rstusa @ May 6 2010, 03:20 PM)
So normally your max SL is -10pips?

I remember year 2008 ECB do intervention to control the currency goes lower again. Intervention mean they adjust the currency rates not according to the market trend?


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If the currency is freely traded, what the Central Banks do to control the rates is by selling/purchasing the currencies.
For example, if they don't want Cable to be lower than 1.5000 .. what they do is to keep buying at 1.5000 .. try to absorb all supply ..

But this kind of intervention normally fails in freely traded markets. But still, it will frighten the average speculators.


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QUOTE(Sham903n @ May 6 2010, 03:45 PM)
looks like m1,m5,m15 dominated by buy signal
"in these intervals.. 10mins news is old news"
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I guess those are profit takings .....

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post May 6 2010, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(luqmanz @ May 6 2010, 03:48 PM)
If the currency is freely traded, what the Central Banks do to control the rates is by selling/purchasing the currencies.
For example, if they don't want Cable to be lower than 1.5000 .. what they do is to keep buying at 1.5000 .. try to absorb all supply ..

But this kind of intervention normally fails in freely traded markets. But still, it will frighten the average speculators.
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thats right, what they can do is to provide some intervention (*like a seed to start a trend) and after effects of the currency direction is still entirely up to the market to decide. If the market choose to follow central bank, central bank will get their goal. If market choose to ignore, the central bank cannot anything as long as it is freely traded market.

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QUOTE(luqmanz @ May 6 2010, 03:48 PM)
I guess those are profit takings .....
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yeap.. smile.gif I sometimes chuckle when my sifu said "FX is programmed", but literally, if you have the insights to look beyond the simplicity of the quote,
everyone one is following some signal or another.. be in macd, ma, m1, m5, h1 intervals..
Looks like the truth is starring at our face all the time..

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post May 6 2010, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(rstusa @ May 6 2010, 03:44 PM)
As what you said, so verbal intervention can't give much effect on the currency and now all the traders are smart in trading.
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It wont if the market decides to ignore, but it will if the market say "ok you are right about it". In this case you need to reduce your risk exposure.
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QUOTE(billytong @ May 6 2010, 04:57 PM)
It wont if the market decides to ignore, but it will if the market say "ok you are right about it". In this case you need to reduce your risk exposure.
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The market = trader's sentiment?
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QUOTE(rstusa @ May 6 2010, 03:59 PM)
The market = trader's sentiment?
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yes

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