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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V37!, The Orange Legion

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post Feb 21 2010, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(eddybeh @ Feb 21 2010, 06:29 PM)
so... did u attend? i oni met soket over there. others.. dunno how u all look like.... blush.gif
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i didnt go bro...got some matter to attend to...so what did they teach u...???
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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 21 2010, 06:56 PM)

d4rkholeang3l: Good expression, nice color. Hope she likes it too!
thanks bro...it's my second time photoshooting wif her..
both me and her still gt lots to learn about model shooting ( she's never become model b4 )
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QUOTE(cjlai @ Feb 21 2010, 06:47 PM)
i wen back @ 12 sharp...  wen with family can't wait me long biggrin.gif
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oh~~~ tat's u ya?? i saw u and ur children went off?? is tat you? sitting 2nd or 3rd row on the left. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 21 2010, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 21 2010, 06:56 PM)
user posted image
Sigma 12-24mm F4.5-5.6 EX DG on the A900. Which gives the same angle of view as the new Sigma 8-16mm F4.5-5.6 DC HSM.

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This one is slightly cropped.

kevinwcw: SSM doesn't mean it will focus faster. It depends. Some Minolta lenses have the HS (High Speed) suffix which means it is geared quickly. The Minolta 200mm F2.8G HS APO is definitely faster than the Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM, for example.

Crap, more SAM?

ieR: Somehow I think her pensive look might work better in portrait orientation.

d4rkholeang3l: Good expression, nice color. Hope she likes it too!

Seng_Kiat: I would expect it to be RM24xx as it has to cost more than the 10-20mm F3.5 EX DC HSM and cheaper than the 12-24mm F4.5-5.6 EX DG (I think.)

hokc77: Wow interesting to see what happens to other bikers when they are not the subject of your panning! Interesting effect.

#2 - recee?

cjlai: Nice shots of Azrul. Feels a bit cool and #2 a bit underexposed.

freddy manson: The Sigma 8-16mm is not a fisheye - it's a regular rectilinear.

I think the hand shot has potential, try doing something like that again but closer.

hafeez71: Try cropping off the top and bottom?

e-jump: The A700 replacement needs to be APS-C. There is a market for it.

I like #2, #5 and #6 but #3 could be framed lower.

danieliew: The Samyang 8mm F3.5 diagonal fisheye for APS-C is a good deal, ask cjlai for details.
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as I get the info the A700 successor will be confirmed as APS-C and might have better video function than other brands would be expected .... AVCHD

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y...874&sl=nl&tl=en

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QUOTE(hazril @ Feb 21 2010, 07:28 PM)
i didnt go bro...got some matter to attend to...so what did they teach u...???
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well...... heritage shots.... we need to know wat are we going to tell ppl wat we frame so we need to know the history of the stuffs u going to frame. which i think it's true coz without the knowledge, wat u are trying to frame will mislead wat u are trying to tell?? just my charcoal shot. tongue.gif
shooting heritage stuffs not only have to c big but also small coz small stuffs might bring greater historical value and information. i think tat's wat i learnt today... of course... safety 1st when shooting... he conducted the workshop totally with sharing his shots and explaining what he's trying to tell in the pic... blush.gif
1 thing i m sure... i'm not good in paying attention in lectures(always sleeping in classes but not this morning) so stuffs i absorb might b less. tongue.gif
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ANAHEIM, CALIF. (PMA #2220), Feb. 21, 2010 – Sony is exhibiting an array of innovative digital imaging products at the Photo Marketing Association (PMA) 2010 International Convention, including a concept model of the new compact α (alpha) DSLR camera system that employs an Exmor™ APS HD CMOS sensor, which provides full AVCHD video capability.

New concept α products being shown include an ultra compact model with interchangeable lenses, additions to the α family (including a successor to the α700), along with new TX5 and H55 Cyber-shot® cameras, new printers and other accessories.

α DSLR Camera

In addition to the current DSLR-A230, A330, A380, A500, A550, A850 and A900 digital SLR cameras, the following concept camera bodies and interchangeable lenses will be exhibited. Current interchange lenses, including Carl Zeiss® and G lens products will also be on display.

* Concept model of an ultra-compact interchangeable lens digital camera system that packs the quality of a DSLR camera in an extraordinarily small body, along with interchangeable lenses
* Mid-range concept camera for advanced users (a successor to the α700) as well as concept mainstream models
* Prototype of a Super Telephoto Lens (500mm F4 G) with class-leading optical performance
* Prototype of a Distagon T 24mm F2 ZA SSM, new Carl Zeiss wide angle lens for superior shots of landscapes and sweeping vistas ”


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post Feb 21 2010, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(neo_lam @ Feb 21 2010, 08:08 PM)
ANAHEIM, CALIF. (PMA #2220), Feb. 21, 2010 – Sony is exhibiting an array of innovative digital imaging products at the Photo Marketing Association (PMA) 2010 International Convention, including a concept model of the new compact α (alpha) DSLR camera system that employs an Exmor™ APS HD CMOS sensor, which provides full AVCHD video capability.

New concept α products being shown include an ultra compact model with interchangeable lenses, additions to the α family (including a successor to the α700), along with new TX5 and H55 Cyber-shot® cameras, new printers and other accessories.

α DSLR Camera

In addition to the current DSLR-A230, A330, A380, A500, A550, A850 and A900 digital SLR cameras, the following concept camera bodies and interchangeable lenses will be exhibited. Current interchange lenses, including Carl Zeiss® and G lens products will also be on display.

* Concept model of an ultra-compact interchangeable lens digital camera system that packs the quality of a DSLR camera in an extraordinarily small body, along with interchangeable lenses
* Mid-range concept camera for advanced users (a successor to the α700) as well as concept mainstream models
* Prototype of a Super Telephoto Lens (500mm F4 G) with class-leading optical performance
* Prototype of a Distagon T 24mm F2 ZA SSM, new Carl Zeiss wide angle lens for superior shots of landscapes and sweeping vistas ”

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so the A700 successor with HD video was re-insuring....... biggrin.gif so in this case ..... need to safe money for that >___________<

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one question,

Wads the range of prices do u guys expect for the a7x0? biggrin.gif

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post Feb 21 2010, 08:27 PM

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Hmmm should be around RM4500. Should be around the same price as Nikon D300s. XD
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Feb 21 2010, 08:27 PM)
Hmmm should be around RM4500. Should be around the same price as Nikon D300s. XD
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wow, that's a relieve heh =D
Thought that it'll be a lil' higher than a550... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 21 2010, 06:56 PM)
cjlai: Nice shots of Azrul. Feels a bit cool and #2 a bit underexposed.
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may b WB out a bit biggrin.gif... #1 was ISO800 while #2 ISO400 biggrin.gif

both shot with 85@f1.4 biggrin.gif

QUOTE(eddybeh @ Feb 21 2010, 07:49 PM)
oh~~~ tat's u ya?? i saw u and ur children went off?? is tat you? sitting 2nd or 3rd row on the left.  biggrin.gif
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those not my kids... . but i think they oso wen off with me biggrin.gif

i'm sitting 2nd row fr the front smile.gif


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They forgot the A450 LOL!

Read it carefully and properly - Sony words their releases very specifically.

The compact Alpha has the Exmor APS HD CMOS sensor (why not APS-C, typo?) They do not mention anything about the A700 replacement having video.

Nice to know they've upped the 500mm which was previously rumored to be F4.5 (but would be much lighter.) Bummer about the 24mm, wished it was F1.4, but if it is F2.0 it better be the same size as my 24mm F2.0 then.

Kul | Mo0: The D300s costs more than that.
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QUOTE(neo_lam @ Feb 21 2010, 08:08 PM)
ANAHEIM, CALIF. (PMA #2220), Feb. 21, 2010 – Sony is exhibiting an array of innovative digital imaging products at the Photo Marketing Association (PMA) 2010 International Convention, including a concept model of the new compact α (alpha) DSLR camera system that employs an Exmor™ APS HD CMOS sensor, which provides full AVCHD video capability.

New concept α products being shown include an ultra compact model with interchangeable lenses, additions to the α family (including a successor to the α700), along with new TX5 and H55 Cyber-shot® cameras, new printers and other accessories.

α DSLR Camera

In addition to the current DSLR-A230, A330, A380, A500, A550, A850 and A900 digital SLR cameras, the following concept camera bodies and interchangeable lenses will be exhibited. Current interchange lenses, including Carl Zeiss® and G lens products will also be on display.

* Concept model of an ultra-compact interchangeable lens digital camera system that packs the quality of a DSLR camera in an extraordinarily small body, along with interchangeable lenses
* Mid-range concept camera for advanced users (a successor to the α700) as well as concept mainstream models
* Prototype of a Super Telephoto Lens (500mm F4 G) with class-leading optical performance
* Prototype of a Distagon T 24mm F2 ZA SSM, new Carl Zeiss wide angle lens for superior shots of landscapes and sweeping vistas ”
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does that means we'll still need to wait a while before they are available? sad.gif
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albnok : I said around that price ma. D300s if not mistaken is about 5.1~5.2k ma.
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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 21 2010, 08:41 PM)
They forgot the A450 LOL!

Read it carefully and properly - Sony words their releases very specifically.

The compact Alpha has the Exmor APS HD CMOS sensor (why not APS-C, typo?) They do not mention anything about the A700 replacement having video.

Nice to know they've upped the 500mm which was previously rumored to be F4.5 (but would be much lighter.) Bummer about the 24mm, wished it was F1.4, but if it is F2.0 it better be the same size as my 24mm F2.0 then.

Kul | Mo0: The D300s costs more than that.
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bro what do u think of the price range for tht zeiss 24mm??
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weixuan : Definitely. Just say they announce tomorrow. Probably around a month or 2 only will reach our shores. (:
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weixuan: Concept cameras take much longer. They're just saying "hey, we didn't forget!"

The supposed compact Alphas should be here sooner than the A700 replacement.

Kul | Mo0: The A700 and 40D have always matched price, with the D300 being a bit higher (rightly so.)

neo_lam: The Nikkor 24mm F1.4 AF-S is probably around RM6xxx so the Zeiss had better be a few notches below that. I'd guess RM4xxx but it would be sweet to be RM2xxx.
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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 21 2010, 08:41 PM)
They forgot the A450 LOL!

Read it carefully and properly - Sony words their releases very specifically.

The compact Alpha has the Exmor APS HD CMOS sensor (why not APS-C, typo?) They do not mention anything about the A700 replacement having video.

Nice to know they've upped the 500mm which was previously rumored to be F4.5 (but would be much lighter.) Bummer about the 24mm, wished it was F1.4, but if it is F2.0 it better be the same size as my 24mm F2.0 then.

Kul | Mo0: The D300s costs more than that.
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aww BTW it just concept =w= who knows they may make some interesting changes
...still prey high for video mode on the new A700 series model (if comes with AF would be godly biggrin.gif)


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QUOTE(wingster @ Feb 21 2010, 03:46 PM)
hmm interestingly introducing IS for Sony....

as I saw the review of using an IS lens on the built-in stabilizer camera body (they test on Olympus)

as the testing

if you switch your camera body IS and IS Lens together will cause the lens malfunction and creeping sound so switch either one side to avoid the malfunction

so either way; off you camera body IS and on Lens IS or on your camera body and switch on Lens IS

however conclusion for having an IS lens for Alpha Body....... is turned the IS on the Lens and shut the SSS down is much better because for Sony Body IS, you wouldn't saw the stabilize effect on OVF or Live View (unlike Olympus which has stabilize effect on Live View)
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did u know, ur OVF (all SLR type) will black out when u release the shutter? then, what u wan to see? ppl over-market the lens stabilizer till a point i dont even get what they trying to sell?

i prefer SSS, reason is simple... u will know u(ur hand) are shaking less in OVF when u see less shake.... then u know is the best time to release, having the SSS to compasate the min workload.... then Not knowing how much the in lens stabilizer is working(at max 3-4 stop compasate movement?), and just snap, and the stabilizer working 2-3 times harder then SSS, and more compasation (more internal compasate lens moving) and logically, image will be more soft due to the light passing through the compasate lens is unstable. unless u plan to shoot at F8 to get sharper photo... wait, isnt F8 the main reason u get slow shutter??? go figure tongue.gif


Added on February 21, 2010, 9:24 pmA700 sucessor, will be in APS-C, there is no point to go FF, as they have FF range for it... it's like asking canon 60D to go FF or D90/D400 successor to go FF when they have D900...

A7xx will be a flagship for APS-C. for those planing to go FF, (a850 or a900), pls wait a little longer... coz the A7xx will blow u away that u will regret going the older generation of FF so quickly... it will create a benchmark between the old generation camera and new generation... better u wait for the A9xx where it will have all the goodies that A7xx will offer.

now i myself headache,... A7xx or A9xx..... so hard to decide...

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QUOTE(ieR @ Feb 21 2010, 09:08 PM)
did u know, ur OVF (all SLR type) will black out when u release the shutter? then, what u wan to see? ppl over-market the lens stabilizer till a point i dont even get what they trying to sell?

i prefer SSS, reason is simple... u will know u(ur hand) are shaking less in OVF when u see less shake.... then u know is the best time to release, having the SSS to compasate the min workload.... then Not knowing how much the in lens stabilizer is working(at max 3-4 stop compasate movement?), and just snap, and the stabilizer working 2-3 times harder then SSS, and more compasation (more internal compasate lens moving) and logically, image will be more soft due to the light passing through the compasate lens is unstable VS. sensor movement. unless u plan to shoot at F8 to get sharper photo... wait, isnt F8 the main reason u get slow shutter??? go figure tongue.gif
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but so far I testing for IS Lenses, it gives the steady when you half pressing the shutter and focusing, making more easy to snap in an accurate way and yeah those lens were just work well and sharp.

Well so far the image will be so horrible soft or is in certain situation and yet not all the IS Lens suppose to be like you said rite if your statement is true wasn't that the other brands without built-in IS and rely on IS Lens will makes so much of trouble for them?

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