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post Feb 18 2010, 11:40 PM

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wow....now CPS members got number d.... thumbup.gif


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post Feb 19 2010, 12:26 AM

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post Feb 19 2010, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(lakini80 @ Feb 19 2010, 12:35 PM)
Hi all Sifu,
I owned a Satria Neo & it has already been 4 years.
Right now, I got an issue where my engine cant start.
It seems to be like locked down.
Anyone can advise or experience the similar issue here?
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could be ur car battery KO.


Added on February 19, 2010, 9:31 pm
QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Feb 19 2010, 02:28 PM)
aikk rico oledi ur name kan?? rico - w053??issit?
Every cps tribe members who want to order the tribe sticker, pls fill in ur name and registered number( can prefer to 1st page) if urs waja no. 022, so ur number is W022, neo N022, Gen2 G022 & Exora E022

i need to know how many pcs to print(how many members want to order)...but can confirm here the price per pcs not exceeding more than Rm 20 minimum order is 30 pcs.

thnx!!

pst*sticker is from inside [/color][/b]

tis is the CPS Tribe Logo
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Name - Number
1.RYDECK - W022
2.VerM - W???
3.THIENWU - W044
4.AZUMA - W052
5.EUJIN - W040
5.KLIA - W033
6.SKYANCIENT - W001
7.EASTWEST - W010
8.JCTASOGA - W038
9.AEROGUYZ - WO51
10.LORDRAGOS - W023
11.IRIX - N004
12.RAY - G036
13.PEARJAR - G009
14.EZWAN - G045
15.RICO - W053 - 2pcs
16.SPHIROTH - W004
17.DIABLO69 - G001
18.PEDANGLAUT - G040
19.AHPAUL - G038
20.TERMINATORKUN - G030
21.LOLOQUE - W042 - 2pcs
22.jVIPERs2 - G026
23.ALI WNG - W err ali apa no???
24.ZENWARLORD - Z001
25.
26.
27.
28.
29.
30.


again,anybody here want to hv 2pcs sticker just let me know..but,basically the sticker is 1pcs and stick it at rear screen from inside..bet tis sticker is easy to stick and easily adjust..
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rclxm9.gif ...I also got number. I take 1pc, I pay to who?


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post Feb 19 2010, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(uk9089 @ Feb 19 2010, 09:51 PM)
hi all waja cps sifu. i need your help.
before the chinese new year, i had a minor accident. my side mirror (driver side) hit by a motor and broken. The motorbike really can run very fast until i cant get his number plate.

my problem is, i want to change the whole side mirror. i went to the nearest proton-edar. they quote me RM450 + labor RM50 which total RM500.

mine is auto side mirror CPS. how much actually the side mirror?
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maybe u can try ur luck in mudah.com.my, i think someone is selling there.


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post Feb 22 2010, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(TripleJ104 @ Feb 21 2010, 11:18 PM)
Hi guys..just curios...does waja cps head unit got bluetooth?

thanks!
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nope.


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post Feb 23 2010, 01:00 PM

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R.Y.D.E.C.K,
Let me know the postage cost, i'll bank in together. Thanks.

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post Feb 23 2010, 01:33 PM

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no prob R.Y.D.E.C.K , tonite I transfer $ to u together with postage.


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post Feb 24 2010, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Feb 24 2010, 11:50 AM)
family a.k.a student men...aku faham laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

RM15...ramai2 buy me cigarettes..everybody can hv...no need laa..pay me...want buy me...buy me japs rim waaaaaaaaakakakaka
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buy u japanese rokok, like takumi father.





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post Feb 24 2010, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(VerM @ Feb 24 2010, 01:10 PM)
japan cig not as kick as local ones... besides, some of them have fruity taste... i wonder if they make cig with durian flavour.. that would be nice.. tongue.gif
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I can assure u if durian taste it will smelly then curut hahaha


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post Feb 25 2010, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(VerM @ Feb 25 2010, 11:00 AM)
although quota is 4 but having 1 is more than enough...
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Sounds like u have 1 big problem hahaha

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post Mar 1 2010, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(kobe10 @ Feb 28 2010, 08:13 PM)
Hehe..next week got TT?can give me your number to contact?hahaha... May be will go and get the sticker as well. Cause having usual cell group meeting on that day. May be join you all late.


Added on February 28, 2010, 8:18 pmCan i ask one dumb question here. Waja Cps VS City I-Vtec.. Which will be the winner?Our baby got about 125hp. That City also around there rite?
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The best way to check is to test it on the road for both 400m and top speed. What ever written in paper hard to compare as it varies from OEM in measuring and testing. Furthermore City is 1.5 while CPS is 1.6, as rules of thumb "No replacement for Displacement"


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post Mar 1 2010, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(alexscm @ Mar 1 2010, 11:13 AM)
Hey Guys,

I have been driving my Waja for around 6 months.....i have noticed something on my gear change. I'm driving an AT unit.

It's normal for the RPM to drop whenever the gear changes but mine....it feels weird. Or maybe it's just me....For example....when i rev till 4k, and the gear changes, it's normal to see the RPM to drop...say it drops to 3k. But nowadays, it drops to 3k for a while, and further drop to 2.6k before it goes up again. Any reason why it does not stay at 3k? Why it further drops to 2.6k before it goes back up? I did not deccerelate....

Also, i have notice that my car chokes a bit when moving....very noticeable while cruising along the highway. It's not smooth going...

Anyone facing these 2 issues?

What can i do on it?
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What have you repaired, change or modified lately? How old is ur car? It happen during cold start or under hot sun? May need more info before can suggest you what to check.


Added on March 1, 2010, 12:58 pm
QUOTE(VerM @ Mar 1 2010, 12:50 PM)
If you are driving AT you should know that the AT is fitted with sensor that calculate the speed of the vehicle versus amount of fuel injected (pedal pressing)...

This feature is built-in and useful for overtaking... you can do the same by putting the gear level to 3 and after overtaking put it back to D...
Perdana for example has an overdrive button to facilitate this feature...

So, if you suddenly press the accelerator deep, the AT will definitely shift down and hence you will see the rpm drop to accomodate the gear change...
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When it shift down the RPM goes higher indeed.



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post Mar 1 2010, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(mrl @ Mar 1 2010, 01:04 PM)
if this problem occur after the 20k service, means the mechanic might do some mistakes while servicing... haha....

i dont see this as the CPS module problem... unless CPS got delay in trigger and release trigger... i just think it's a gearbox issue... but, i ain't an expert on cars engine...

is there any possibilities that the oil they use for the gearbox have problems???
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Nope, it's more toward ECU, Air intake & fuel delivery.


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post Mar 1 2010, 05:14 PM

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alexscm,
Did u get ur car diagnose with PDT when you first encounter this problem? If not then It's good to do as first step to trace the problem. If couldn't find any problem then we can start to look at mechanical problem.

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post Mar 1 2010, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(alexscm @ Mar 1 2010, 05:32 PM)
kinda noob here....PDT meaning a handheld device that they stuff into a terminal under your dashboard for tuning??
If yes...then yes, they have done so.....no comments from them....my car even got better in terms of fuel consumption.....
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That's right the handheld device that plug into ODBII (terminal) under your dashboard is PDT. Your problem sounds like combustion issue to me, Throttle Body portion is my main suspect as the MAP sensor on the throttle body might sending the wrong data to ECU but refer to the mileage it doesn't seems to break down that early. Perhaps do some cleaning by using proper cleaner may help, the SC may able to do so.

Also the distributor coil could be the culprit as well, the reason I'm saying so is because if the coils fails to provide sufficient ignition to the plug it may cause your combustion chamber running too rich, therefore you'll feel the rpm drops or lagging. Apart from that, the O2 sensor may cause problem by given wrong data to ECU and causes wrong A/F mixture. Again refer to your mileage it's doesn't seems to breakdown that fast, but Proton quality hard to predicts.

Another possibility is Fuel pump, where it fails to supply sufficient pressure of fuel during WOT (Wide Open Throttle). There is a possibility where your fuel filter got blockage due to particle from our petrol especially RON95 and that blockage causing fuel pressure drop.

Just curious did u face the same problem since day 1?

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post Mar 2 2010, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(greddy @ Mar 1 2010, 10:01 PM)
Hi guys... i'm driving a gen2 cps... and looking for further details on cps  immobilizer...
AFAIK for cps the immobilizer is built-in into the ECU and the key has a chip in it...
can i disable the OEM immobilizer? any idea on the cost?

p/s: so far during my search immobilizer only found this thread below....
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/692966
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Yes the immobilizer is built in but into Alarm instead of ECU. Meanwhile there is a seperate module for the captor.

Chip on the key is called transponder and yes the transponder required to send responding signal to transmitter (small black rectangular box next to key hole) when you switch to ACC. If you open up your key, you can see the transponder did not wired to the remote module as it place just next to it. As suggest by Spiroth you may stick the transponder on the transmitter but the location must be correct.

I suggest you to start your engine via normal practice by using key to ensure it's working before you move on to wired up the keyless startup, also ensure the key u use is without 2nd transponder.


Added on March 2, 2010, 8:08 am
QUOTE(greddy @ Mar 1 2010, 11:04 PM)
I'm going for keyless start. The whole point of me posting here is to avoid the engine locking up by ecu. So i need to know what options do i have before i decide on the next course of action.
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Proton do not have any CAN bus system yet and therefore the ECU can't lock the entire car. The only module can prevent your car from starting is the alarm and captor, which both will eventually cut off the power supply to ECU to prevent it from starting. If any thing goes wrong usually resetting the alarm should be able to clear off.


Added on March 2, 2010, 8:22 am
QUOTE(alexscm @ Mar 1 2010, 11:50 PM)
I'm still running on RON97....at first i did think of the fuel pump....could it be the culprit? I do sometimes hear ppl saying that waja's fuel pump has a bad history record....Am I right?
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Numbers of waja user claim that. But for my earlier fuel pump, it served me for 8 years without any problem until the day I took it down during engine conversion. The pump will spoilt if we're frequently running very very low (nearly to empty) on our fuel tank as the pump gets very hot, thus that reduce the lifespan of the pump.

The possibility of fuel pump problem is there as it fails to provide sufficient pressure to the fuel regulator. But other than that, the fuel regulator may cause the problem as well. I remember earlier Sphiroth faced jerking problem during cruising and he solved that by installing Adjustable Fuel Regulator, he could be having the same problem like you but his running with MT, so not noticeable in rpm dipping when engage gear.

If you have a generous friend that can borrow his standard fuel regulator for you to troubleshoot then it will be good.



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QUOTE(alexscm @ Mar 2 2010, 08:52 AM)
Thanks alot for the sharing....

I don't know where to start from  rclxub.gif

But will try to monitor all these.....

Actually, my car is experiencing a few minor issues here and there.
The other issue would be my brakes. It is producing screeching sound.
Normally this kinda sound can only be heard if we brake...but mine, it happens the opposite situation.
The screeching sound can be heard when my car is moving in a slow pace. When i brake, the sound is gone. Am I right to say the problem lies in the brake pads?

I have raised this issue during my service and they claim they have fixed it. But the sound came back after a day's drive. I saw what they did. They just took the air gun and blew off all the brake dust. That's it. But I don't think this is the issue. Right?
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That sceeching sound could be due to unbalance disc rotor or the brake pad uneven (due to no proper bedding). You can do a quick check on the disc rotor to see if there is any surface scrathing.

The majority SC workers are hopeless, but I can't say all of them are bad. Maybe 2 out of 1,000 is real good mechanic. Last time when my Gen2 is under warranty, I saw there is a leakage on my AT gearbox. I complained and they use silicon spray and wipe it off and tell me already fix and no more leaking. I walked to registration counter and asked the customer service guys from which Tok Guru they bought the "magic spray" from as I would like to have 1 can as well. What the mech interest more is the mod I've done and they eventually bring me to the work bay ask me about the LCP, extractor, jack up my car and ask me about the piping setup. Teh most interesting part is they test my car then tell me its very responsive and the acceleration is fast, but the actual test drive is to check my absober.


Added on March 2, 2010, 11:04 am
QUOTE(Decyfer @ Mar 2 2010, 10:01 AM)
i'm not sure if this question already been raised before. as we know, there are various way to setup an open pod. some custom their air ram to bend towards the back of the headlamp to avoid heat from radiator fan n some just straight toward the radiator fan.

my question to sifus here is, does the length of air ram affect the car HP? some say shorter ram is better cos the air will be suck directly into a car's internal-combustion engine, but suck more hot air, some say longer ram is better to avoid hot air.

Long air ram (u can placed the open pod away from the hot air from radiator fan)

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Short air ram (direct toward the hot air from radiator fan)

user posted image
pls enlighten me.  icon_question.gif  which one is the best set up long ram or short ram?  hmm.gif
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If you trust me, the standard drop in is the best setup. From the photo, both ram's supplying hot air, u know why? It's because the ram is steel.



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QUOTE(alexscm @ Mar 2 2010, 11:00 AM)
Anyone had their dashboard dismantle before? I need feedback on this....

Previously, I've mentioned that there was a scratch on my dashboard. Tried all sorts of ways but the scratch is still visible.....sakit hati....
The only way is either change dashboard or re-wrap....

Anyone re-wrap their dashboard before? maybe into leather?

I'm think of it but kinda worried my dashboard will have unwanted sounds later.....Now, it is very quiet and I'm happy. But the scratch is giving me that "feeling"...guess you know what I mean. Currently, I customized a metal emblem and stick on it.....but anyone tried b4 in re-wrapping???
Where to get it? How much? How about Bendix/ Metal King?
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Yes, after dismantling the Proton dashboard you'll have rattling noise here n there. Wrapping by using Leather is not preferrable due to direct exposure to heat that comes direct from windscreen. The original material used for dashboard is "poron", not PVC. Maybe u should change the entire dashboard instead, i bet there must be some CPS owner is upgrading their ride to 4G's.


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QUOTE(alexscm @ Mar 2 2010, 11:10 AM)
I got alot to do towards my car...changing rims.....and even thinking of re-wrapping my dashboard to leather because current dash got scratched....

but the dashboard issue, I hope someone who has tried that before can give me some feedback.

As for the brake pads, I'll see what happens when i change to a new set.
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For your jerking problem, maybe u can try to swap a standard regulator for troubleshooting purpose. Try to do those cost u less.


Added on March 2, 2010, 11:14 am
QUOTE(alexscm @ Mar 2 2010, 11:10 AM)
I got alot to do towards my car...changing rims.....and even thinking of re-wrapping my dashboard to leather because current dash got scratched....

but the dashboard issue, I hope someone who has tried that before can give me some feedback.

As for the brake pads, I'll see what happens when i change to a new set.


Added on March 2, 2010, 11:13 am

any ideas how much a new dashboard cost?
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Get an used one, there're ppl converting engine. It should not exceeded RM200.




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post Mar 2 2010, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(Decyfer @ Mar 2 2010, 11:25 AM)
ooo ic..hmmph, so i think i better stick with drop in then. thnks for the advise  thumbup.gif 

btw, any significant different between drop in and open pod in term of HP gain? n wic drop in brand give highest HP?
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You can stick with drop in + CAI, that's the best. I hardly can feel any improvement when using open pod except the improvement on air suction noise. You can always go to trusted brand such as K&N, HKS, Apexi. About which brand give better hp, my wild guess it should be same.

Lately I come across a review about standard filter vs aftermarket, which it's quite make sense by saying regardless more air inducted via airbox into the TB, the max air volume allowed to enter the chamber has been fixed by the mechanical dimension. Further to this, the A/F mixture is determined by ECU via O2 sensor feedback and it has nothing to do with any allowance of air to enter either by intake manifold or TB (control by our feet). Due to that, the standard air filter are preferred as better in filtering. But, with the aftermaket air filter no doubt will give better response for the initial surge by having more volume of air at standby and pressure to enter the combustion chamber.

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