Yup. it's the precious Uncle George we discussed right...from Johor wan...

Of course he wont sell off the white tips, because he want to keep all and keep breed them since it's not popular yet in M'sia.

And people will think breeding 1 white tip with another will produce another white tip joey We do know that white tip is NOT a single recessive gene. IF white tips were a single recessive trait, all offspring from two white tip parents would have been white tipped. i bet they don't know that actually white tips are actually mutation colors XD

any glider can basically produce a white tip.. just see shazman's glider.. Its white tipped but the parents which were from cipan were pretty much standard grey gliders

This post has been edited by SugarCoatedCandy: Mar 19 2010, 03:26 PM

just like albino sg right? Which is like 1 in a million chances to get 1 of them from normal color sg right?

Nope, to produce albinos one of the parents MUST have at least the albino gene. But usually there are percentages in the genes. For example 100% albino het. means both parents carries the albino gene. But if that normal glider HAS some of the albino gene like maybe 33% or 50% then its possible to produce. Something liek that lah but a normal glider cannot produce an albino as far as i know Its like turun menurun no gene in that glider, no albino glider Same goes for leu's ~

Erm.. Talk bout color gene, i think only US has more standard grey gliders that carry albino/leu gene.. Because they have all kind of colors there and when u cross breeding two colors then the color gene will passed to the offspring.

It's totally diff in m'sia, we don even see or meet a single albino/leu glider here b4... Where to get the color gene then?

Mayb out of no where u r lucky enough then pop out one Mosaic color from 2 standard grey glider? (Since the first mosaic glider in US is offspring from standard grey parents too) Then only we will have more color genes variety rotated among the gliders in M'sia.

It's pretty hard to say, since it's mutated color..but so far never heard oof any mosaic/albino/leu/ringtail glider in the market.. the most is white tip, and it's not common yet.

i just bought my personal electronic scale to weigh my gliders YAY!!

My joey~

name: Jelly
gender: female
DOA: 21st Jan 2010


my jelly when first bought from breeder. wild, unbonded, doesnt wan to eat anything. drink very little hpw. active like monkey.


my jelly taken a month ago while trying to bond with her in a tent. still wild, still unbonded, eat a few bite only, drink very little hpw, still active like monkey.


my jelly taken a few days ago. became more wild, still unbonded, eat like pig, drink hpw till finish, more monkeir than a monkey after giving her wodent wheel.


feel so sad. going to 2 months still cannot tame her. and every night she start barking since past 1 week. talk to her and she stop barking for a while, when i go sleep and cover with blanket she will start barking again. i think she stop barking when i talk to her cos she scared of me.
anyone tried scent cloth or something like that? does it work? everyday i put my shirt inside the cage till now she like still doesnt recognize my smell. and touching her nose when she bite doesnt seem to work and it make her more terrorist and will bite at will.

any tips to make her less violent? i mean bite less.

bite≠nip

Hey, at least she can sleep on ur hand peacefully. A real wild glider wont do that... And if u ever handle any wild glider, they bite and never release their mouth.. It's kinda scary..

It's only 2months... be more patient...

Don put cloths INSIDE the cage.. accident may happen..

Scent patch works effectively for some people, why dont u give it a try?

Hav u bring her with u everyday?

patient is the key..

if she is wild how come she sleep on you?

mine is almost 6 months, and she's still pouch protective.

well, pouch protective n wild is 2 different thing...

lastlovesong: if u have the determination n will, definitely u can bond with her

uncle jeorge say he wanna make all putih 1..(albino or leu)
but come out white tips oni... so he say wanna cross breed...
dat uncle say so long ady he try but dont get all putih

i cover her with a cloth first then wait her sleep only transfer to my hand. if she wake up, she straight will jump. nvr manage to keep her in my palms till she sleep cos she will scratch and bite till i open my palm.

eric, u by mean bring her with me everyday = bring her go work/jalan-jalan everyday?

if yes, then my answer is no. cos i work 9-5. so if i bring her with me, i have to put her in bonding pouch. i scared it will make her stress cos got not enough place to move.

so is it advisable to bring her with me out to work/jalan-jalan everyday? if yes, i am more than happy to bring to go everywhere.

1 more question, when we use bonding pouch, we wear it outside our clothes so they can see outside or we wear inside so they can smell our body?

When you intend to breed certain colors, u nid to study bit on genetic knowledge, especially on their primary color and recessive color gene and so on. It's not u cincai cincai throw different colors of glider together then trial and erroR.

I know it's a bit nuts for me to say that, but the way u describe uncle jeorge is like glider expert, then i do hope he has done his research on this issue.

9-5 is ok. A lot owners bring them.. I always bring my gliders to college with me, some time i stay up to 8pm.. Daytime they are sleeping, they don nid much space. And they actually prefer enclosed dark space (such as sleeping pouch/bonding pouch).. So no wworry, u can bring the glider to office, if ur office are ok with it..

For glider who still not feeling secure/trust with owner, u can put inside ur baju.. because 1) he smells u directly. 2) he wont get frighten by people or object moving around.. And he wont get too irritated with the sun lights and so on..

U know la, nowadays i seen a lot bonding pouch design, the plastic mesh window is so so big, then the pouch is so so short..it's totatly not suitable for glider.. Too much lights goes in and disturb their sleep.

lastlovesong, be patient for you Jelly,
Mine still not very tame Normally I can play with my SG when cleaning her cage, other time won't border you at all, just sleep. Sometime just look around and don't border me is it looking at her or what.

my office let me bring pets to work(actually dont let but they dont care anyway.)
petshack got open today? i wanna go buy hpw, booster and some yogurt drops.

do sugar gliders get stress from loud/noisy sounds/songs?

anyway, thanks everyone for the infos and helps.

This post has been edited by lastlovesong: Mar 19 2010, 06:24 PM

Tell your "Uncle Jeorge" to learn about glider lifestyle first.. then learn about Glider genetics.. then he can get "ALL PUTIH" glider~
get ready about RM10k while he is at it ~

Maybe he can start learning how to actually COUNT actual OOP dates and start by not selling underaged joeys

This post has been edited by SugarCoatedCandy: Mar 19 2010, 06:26 PM

Woww in few times we cn get leu gliders in malaysia lar
Nt bad lar uncle jeorge cn breed a white tip gene edi
Wonder hw mch he going to sell it.. n hope the quality is there
at least no more selling under age joey ths time mah

By nowadays we still can see those under age joey at Pet Safari there....

Hye all,

I just came back from Dr Jenny clinic..neuter my male before i get another female for him.. Any advise after neutering? like what dr jenny said i need to watch him for few days...

yeap..just need to monitor him..my boys just act like nothing happen..u have to watch out see if he over groom the wound or not..coz it might get infected..let him have more rest