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3D gaming and Movies, Can the HDMI 1.3a support it?
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geforce1999
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Jan 24 2010, 08:29 AM
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Yup, for those that haven't upgraded their gear, like avr or tv with 1.3 can still wait and see; but for me just upgraded most of my gear in 2009 can't do nothing but wait and hope that my gear can handle 3D tech if possible else have to hoop on the upgrade train when time is mature and hope that less damage will that be...
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dopp
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Jan 24 2010, 12:57 PM
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3D - The future technology
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low98944
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Jan 24 2010, 01:13 PM
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Read here for 3-D Q&A brought to you by http://bluray.highdefdigest.com. This Q&A will help you solved some of the 3-D question, including no need to upgrade AVR just upgrade player and TV to enjoy FullHD 3-D solution. HD Advisor Forty 3-D!This post has been edited by low98944: Jan 24 2010, 01:14 PM
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TSlightning69
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Jan 25 2010, 11:28 PM
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I got this from cnet about the new Panasonic Bluray player. One piece of news for existing HDMI V1.3 AV Receiver user that don't look that good... The Panasonic DMP-BDT350 is the only player with dual HDMI outputs That's important because 3D Blu-ray players will use the new HDMI 1.4 standard, and existing A/V receivers support only HDMI 1.3. That means you won't be able to easily connect a new 3D Blu-ray player to an existing A/V receiver. With the DMP-BDT350, you can send the high-bandwidth 3D video directly to the display and the audio directly to the A/V receiver. It seems like the best option if you don't plan on buying a new HDMI 1.4 receiver. Cnet asia link
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ar188
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Jan 26 2010, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jan 25 2010, 11:28 PM) I got this from cnet about the new Panasonic Bluray player. One piece of news for existing HDMI V1.3 AV Receiver user that don't look that good... The Panasonic DMP-BDT350 is the only player with dual HDMI outputs That's important because 3D Blu-ray players will use the new HDMI 1.4 standard, and existing A/V receivers support only HDMI 1.3. That means you won't be able to easily connect a new 3D Blu-ray player to an existing A/V receiver. With the DMP-BDT350, you can send the high-bandwidth 3D video directly to the display and the audio directly to the A/V receiver. It seems like the best option if you don't plan on buying a new HDMI 1.4 receiver. Cnet asia linkAV receiver that doesn't have 1.4 is the least of worries.. if you don't have a HDMI 1.4V TV you won't see FULLHD 3d also.. you need the dual link HDMI bandwidth..
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TSlightning69
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Jan 26 2010, 01:26 AM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 26 2010, 12:15 AM) AV receiver that doesn't have 1.4 is the least of worries.. if you don't have a HDMI 1.4V TV you won't see FULLHD 3d also.. you need the dual link HDMI bandwidth.. I think what the article is saying is that if the AVR don't have 1.4, then when a 1.4 version is connected to it, the AVR will only accept it as V1.3 and then only send it to the TV as V1.3. Then even if you have a 3D tv with HDMI 1.4, you will not be able to use its 3D function. But if you connect your 3D bluray movies to your Tv directly via HDMI V1.4, then you might not be able to get master audio anymore as you only have 1 HDMI output on the current bluray player. See the problem?
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enemyofgod
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Jan 26 2010, 07:47 AM
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jan 23 2010, 11:35 PM) Avatar? Toy Story 3? and and many more. I better wait and see what happen. There are few to name at the moment, The Final Destination 3D, Polar Express Presented in 3D, My Bloody Valentine 2D & 3D, Monster vs Alien 3D (some extra goodies part).. etc.. There are many more now has been developed on 3D and this are must buy!!
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htkaki
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Jan 26 2010, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jan 25 2010, 11:28 PM) I got this from cnet about the new Panasonic Bluray player. One piece of news for existing HDMI V1.3 AV Receiver user that don't look that good... The Panasonic DMP-BDT350 is the only player with dual HDMI outputsThat's important because 3D Blu-ray players will use the new HDMI 1.4 standard, and existing A/V receivers support only HDMI 1.3. That means you won't be able to easily connect a new 3D Blu-ray player to an existing A/V receiver. With the DMP-BDT350, you can send the high-bandwidth 3D video directly to the display and the audio directly to the A/V receiver. It seems like the best option if you don't plan on buying a new HDMI 1.4 receiver. Cnet asia linkI bet the new crop of BDP (HDMI v1.4) will have 2 HDMI outputs. This would be good as we can route one to the new 3D FHD display panel and the other to our existing avr since it is always backward compatible. For those early adopters, IMHO not much of an issue.
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ar188
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Jan 26 2010, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jan 26 2010, 01:26 AM) I think what the article is saying is that if the AVR don't have 1.4, then when a 1.4 version is connected to it, the AVR will only accept it as V1.3 and then only send it to the TV as V1.3. Then even if you have a 3D tv with HDMI 1.4, you will not be able to use its 3D function. But if you connect your 3D bluray movies to your Tv directly via HDMI V1.4, then you might not be able to get master audio anymore as you only have 1 HDMI output on the current bluray player. See the problem? can use la.. but not FULLHD 3D..
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jchong
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Jan 26 2010, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(enemyofgod @ Jan 26 2010, 07:47 AM) There are few to name at the moment, The Final Destination 3D, Polar Express Presented in 3D, My Bloody Valentine 2D & 3D, Monster vs Alien 3D (some extra goodies part).. etc.. Are those titles the traditional 3D (i.e. using the red/green glasses)?
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htkaki
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Jan 26 2010, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(jchong @ Jan 26 2010, 09:59 AM) Are those titles the traditional 3D (i.e. using the red/green glasses)? Yes, trad 3D which has severe colour offset. The new gen 3D would be a 'quantum leap' as being promised by these giants. Hopefully, it does deliver
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ronnt88
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Jan 26 2010, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 26 2010, 11:01 AM) Yes, trad 3D which has severe colour offset. The new gen 3D would be a 'quantum leap' as being promised by these giants. Hopefully, it does deliver  wat do they mean by quantum leap? no need for 3D glasses?
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ar188
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Jan 26 2010, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(enemyofgod @ Jan 26 2010, 07:47 AM) There are few to name at the moment, The Final Destination 3D, Polar Express Presented in 3D, My Bloody Valentine 2D & 3D, Monster vs Alien 3D (some extra goodies part).. etc.. There are many more now has been developed on 3D and this are must buy!! different technology la.. those are red+green glasses.. the new 2010 3D ones are using active shutter glass..
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enemyofgod
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Jan 26 2010, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 26 2010, 11:36 AM) different technology la.. those are red+green glasses.. the new 2010 3D ones are using active shutter glass.. Is it available , and im taking a wild guess that its gonna cost a fortune prolly..
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ar188
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Jan 26 2010, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(enemyofgod @ Jan 26 2010, 11:46 AM) Is it available , and im taking a wild guess that its gonna cost a fortune prolly.. yeah.. cost a fortune if you want to watch it in FULLHD 3D, AVR , TV, Bluray all have to upgrade to v1.4
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enemyofgod
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Jan 26 2010, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 26 2010, 11:47 AM) yeah.. cost a fortune if you want to watch it in FULLHD 3D, AVR , TV, Bluray all have to upgrade to v1.4 It would be easy to update instead of upgrading systems right? but is there a way to do so? for eg upgrading to v 1.4 ( not like some software update which makes life easier to do rather hardware itself needs pumping with new firmware or somethin').. What sort upgrade you meant ..?
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ar188
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Jan 26 2010, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(enemyofgod @ Jan 26 2010, 11:53 AM) It would be easy to update instead of upgrading systems right? but is there a way to do so? for eg upgrading to v 1.4 ( not like some software update which makes life easier to do rather hardware itself needs pumping with new firmware or somethin').. What sort upgrade you meant ..? upgrade means BUY new equipment. how are you going to update firmware of the old HDMI chip on the board to 1.4V? that's like saying Pentium III can be flashed to become Pentium 4..
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enemyofgod
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Jan 26 2010, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 26 2010, 12:06 PM) upgrade means BUY new equipment. how are you going to update firmware of the old HDMI chip on the board to 1.4V? that's like saying Pentium III can be flashed to become Pentium 4.. Exactly, thats what i had in my mind..so thats alright, i got the idea.. so its the equipment based..well thats a fortune to crack..
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htkaki
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Jan 26 2010, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Jan 26 2010, 11:08 AM) wat do they mean by quantum leap? no need for 3D glasses? like ar188 mention, the new 3D employs 'new' tech. Current 3D BD is crappy. The new 3D would be similar to those that we get to watch in amusement park and cinema. The colour will be retain unlike current green and red glasses that screw up the color
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ar188
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Jan 26 2010, 03:07 PM
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I get headache using those red/green things..
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