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 3D gaming and Movies, Can the HDMI 1.3a support it?

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TSlightning69
post Jan 22 2010, 03:09 AM, updated 16y ago

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With the current 3D buzz going on, will it affect those with HDMI 1.3a? Do we need new HDMI version to fully support 3D?


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post Jan 22 2010, 08:37 AM

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I believe it needs v 1.4

See: http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_1_4/index.aspx
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post Jan 22 2010, 11:56 AM

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Yes, HDMI ver 1.4 to support the extra large bandwidth. New blu-ray player, and new display panels too. Current FHD plasma tv and LCD TV will not be able to do the 3D job convincingly.
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post Jan 22 2010, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 22 2010, 11:56 AM)
Yes, HDMI ver 1.4 to support the extra large bandwidth. New blu-ray player, and new display panels too. Current FHD plasma tv and LCD TV will not be able to do the 3D job convincingly.
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For real? darn.. What will the price be? I mean, LCD TV that supports 3D.. Will the PS3 be able to use HDMI v1.4?
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post Jan 22 2010, 08:58 PM

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This is really bad news. I just bought my TV and now it is out of date. Maybe I should postpone on any further upgrade until V1.4 is out.

I am thinking of getting the emotiva UMC-1 video processor and it only have hdmi v1.3a. I can imagine those people with AVR that supports HDMI v1.3 only but are stuck with upgrade again.

This HDMI thing is bullshit ...really bullshit. Why can't it be done right the first time.
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post Jan 22 2010, 09:03 PM

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post Jan 22 2010, 09:04 PM

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i think in next 18 months, there'll be HDMI v1.5
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post Jan 22 2010, 09:29 PM

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There should be only one HDMI which all can be upgrade via firmware.
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post Jan 22 2010, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jan 22 2010, 09:29 PM)
There should be only one HDMI which all can be upgrade via firmware.
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That is same as computer always most advance through the update without changing any hardware. Is that possible? doh.gif

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post Jan 22 2010, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(low98944 @ Jan 22 2010, 09:48 PM)
That is same as computer always most advance through the update without changing any hardware. Is that possible?  doh.gif
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maybe he dont understand what called hardware limitation tongue.gif
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post Jan 22 2010, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Jan 22 2010, 09:56 PM)
maybe he dont understand what called hardware limitation tongue.gif
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fuyoh. direct tembak.. biggrin.gif

please la.. if people understand then wont post like this lo.. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 22 2010, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 22 2010, 10:17 PM)
fuyoh. direct tembak..  biggrin.gif

please la.. if people understand then wont post like this lo..  biggrin.gif
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then need sifu like you to educate us lo icon_rolleyes.gif
that what the forum for right? whistling.gif
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post Jan 22 2010, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Jan 22 2010, 10:23 PM)
then need sifu like you to educate us lo  icon_rolleyes.gif
that what the forum for right?  whistling.gif
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can use HDMI 1.3 if display 3D at half resolution.

if you want FULLHD 3D ,then need 1.4 biggrin.gif
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post Jan 22 2010, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Jan 22 2010, 09:56 PM)
maybe he dont understand what called hardware limitation tongue.gif
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Hardware limitation? Then how come Sony claim that they can upgrade the PS3 to support 3D via firmware update. So you think you know everything?


Added on January 22, 2010, 10:30 pm
QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 22 2010, 10:17 PM)
fuyoh. direct tembak..  biggrin.gif

please la.. if people understand then wont post like this lo..  biggrin.gif
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So you think u know everything...then please explain why PS3 have been upgrading their HDMI via firmware port since they release it 3 years ago?

Hardware limitation my ASSS ar.

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post Jan 22 2010, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jan 22 2010, 10:26 PM)
Hardware limitation?  Then how come Sony claim that they can upgrade the PS3 to support 3D via firmware update.  So you think you know everything?


Added on January 22, 2010, 10:30 pm

So you think u know everything...then please explain why PS3 have been upgrading their HDMI via firmware port since they release it 3 years ago?

Hardware limitation my ASSS ar.
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obviously you don't understand what I wrote.. I was telling him not every one understands everything.. (not saying I know everything) u blur or what ar?
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post Jan 22 2010, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jan 22 2010, 10:26 PM)
So you think u know everything...then please explain why PS3 have been upgrading their HDMI via firmware port since they release it 3 years ago?
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can use HDMI 1.3 if display 3D at half resolution.

if you want FULLHD 3D ,then need 1.4  biggrin.gif



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post Jan 22 2010, 10:50 PM

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then all of us can stop upgrading / buying HT equipment for the time being.
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post Jan 22 2010, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jan 22 2010, 10:26 PM)

So you think u know everything...then please explain why PS3 have been upgrading their HDMI via firmware port since they release it 3 years ago?

Hardware limitation my ASSS ar.
dun simply make up stories la.. it's always been HDMI 1.3 capable since the 1st gen PS3... where got upgraded via firmware?? tok kok!

PS3 HDMI chip
The following chart describes what features were included in each HDMI protocol revision. Each newer revision is required to support all "mandatory" features of previous versions. DVD Audio, introduced as an "optional" feature of HDMI 1.1, is not supported in the PS3. Sony elected to support the "optional" feature of Super Audio CD introduced in HDMI 1.2 (but only on some early PS3 models). Some optional HDMI 1.3 features, like Deep Color and xvYCC, are included in the PS3, while bitstream transmission of Dolby TrueHD and dts-HD Master Audio were left out.

The early first generation Fat PS3 uses the Silicon Image Vastlane SiI9132CBU, which implements HDMI 1.3a mandatory protocols and the optional deep color and xvYCC features. The SiI9132 did not implement the optional bitstream transmission of Dolby TrueHD and dts-HD Master Audio, which is why for these two audio modes, the PS3 must do the transcoding itself and output LPCM (which even basic HDMI 1.0 protocol can handle). The paired receiving end chip with same feature set should be a SiI9133. The first Silicon Image chip that supported bitstream Dolby TrueHD and dts-HD Master Audio is the SiI9134 (with receiving end of SiI9135). In later models of the Fat PS3 (CECHL), Panasonic manufactures the HDMI 1.3a protocol chip (Panasonic MN864709), but it contains the same bitstream limitations.

The Slim PS3 has an upgraded HDMI 1.3c protocol chip (Panasonic MN8647091), and this time bitstream of Dolby TrueHD and dts-HD MA is finally implemented, so you can use your Audio Video Receiver to decode the audio signal. In addition, HDMI CEC (Bravia Sync) is now fully supported.

Note that although HDMI CEC wiring is mandatory via HDMI 1.0 (a pin on the port is dedicated to CEC), actual implementation support for the CEC specification protocol (introduced in HDMI 1.2a) is optional. That is why the PS3 Fat did not have a CEC Controller chip attached to that pin, so all HDMI-CEC commands are ignored. The PS3 Slim does have a CEC Controller implemented inside the Panasonic HDMI chip, so it does support HDMI-CEC (Bravia Sync).

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post Jan 22 2010, 11:06 PM

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post Jan 22 2010, 11:06 PM

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