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Guide in progress but would appreciate it if you guys could give your comments, critisim, advices, tips and suggestions on:

A) DSLR - general care
C) DSLR - storage
D) Li-Ion battery packs

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Noob guide to taking good care of your DSLR

I have decided to do this guide as I was basically unprepared and surprised by the amount of work needed to take good care of a DSLR, especially when I have splurged tons of money on it. I tried to search the net for a complete guide but only managed to get bits and pieces on this topic. As such, I have decided to compile the information into a complete guide to enable super noobs like me take good care of my DSLR.

All information are pulled from the net and references are quoted in brackets and listed at the end.

Index

A) DSLR - General care

1) DSLR Camera bag
2) LCD screen protector
3) Caps
4) Filters
5) Shoulder/neck strap
6) Lens hood
7) Batteries
8) Changing lenses
9) Moisture condensation

B) DSLR - Cleaning and maintenance (Quick link)

C) DSLR - Storage (Quick link)

D) Li-Ion battery packs (Quick link)
- important facts which most of us don't know!!!

E) DSLR bags (Quick link)

F) References

Important
: Most of my pictures are Sony brand as I bought a Sony alpha 550!

Main contributors
1) ieR - much thanx for giving me much info.

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A) DSLR - General care

1) Camera bag

It is important to get a good DSLR bag that fit your usage. It should be well-padded and big enough to fit all your accessories but still able to protect the camera in case of an accident (e.g. knock against a hard object, bag dropped, etc). Some would recommend getting one with a hard case rather that a soft one (1). Thin cloth bags are convenient but might not protect you DSLR that well from external bumps or drops.

Here's an example of a good DSLR bag:

user posted image

Kindly read post #6 on DSLR bags for detailed info regarding DSLR bags.


2) LCD screen protector

Make sure you buy a good LCD protector to protect the LCD from scratches. Cheap ones would be adequate but you'll find that it will eventually get many scratches and become unsightly. A better alternative would be a "glass-type" of LCD protector as below:

user posted image

Source of picture : http://www.uxsight.com/product/9581/lcd-sc...-dslr-a350.html

How to install a "glass-type" LCD protector : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNian6sDRAg

3) Caps

Camera cap (@ body cap) - Left picture below
Ensure that you always cap your camera if you intend to remove the lens for prolonged periods of time for whatever reason (e.g. storage, lens cleaning, etc).
This will prevent dust from going into the camera and settle on the camera mirrors or sensors.

Lens cap - Middle picture below
It is important to cap your lens anytime you are not using the DSLR. This will reduce the chance of the lens becoming dirty or worse still, the chance of the lens being scratched. A scratched lens would be expensive to replace and will not be covered under the normal warranty.

Rear lens cap - Right picture below
Again, if you remove your lenses for prolonged periods of time, it is important to cap the front AND back of the lens.

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Note : If you go for outings, it would be wise to bring all the caps along just in case you might need to remove the lens for whatever reason. The convenient thing about camera cap and the rear lens cap is that you can screw them both together to carry as a single piece.

Body cap and rear lens cap screwed together:

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4) Filters

To further protect your lenses, it is also advisable to get a clear protection filter or a UV filter to attach to the front of the lens. This will ensure that any scratches or knock to the front of the lens will hit the UV filter rather than the lens itself. In case such a thing happens, you can easily replace the UV filter which is relatively cheap as compared to replacing the lens elements.

In addition, in case your front lens get dirty, it is actually the filter that gets dirty and not the front lens element. As such, you can clean the filter without any worries. This is especially true if something sticky gets stuck in front of the lens which require you to wipe more vigorously to clean it.

UV filters are usually cheap but try not to get a cheap lousy filter as it may interfere with proper light penetration and cause poorer pictures being taken.

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Good reputable lens filters available locally are like:
1) B+W
2) Hoya
3) Carl Zeiss

Note : The UV blocking function in UV filters are actually not necessary for DigitalSLR (DSLR) but only for film SLR. That's because the digital sensor of a DSLR doesn't react to UV light. In the era of SLR using films, UV light can cause blur and can react to many colour films to cause a blue cast (10).

Here a good review of filters : http://www.lenstip.com/113.1-article-UV_fi...troduction.html
- the only problem with this review is that it takes into consideration the UV blocking capabilities too, which as mentioned earlier, is not necessary. However, the review do mentioned that the UV blocking function might be useful at high altitudes due to higher UV radiation.

5) Shoulder/neck strap

Every time you lift up your camera, make it a habit to immediately put strap around your neck. That way, you'll reduce the risk of dropping your camera.

Alternatively, you can coil your arm around the strap for added protection. This video shows you how to hold your camera properly including the coiling of the strap around your arm : Click here

In case you want to let someone use your DSLR (nobody touches mine!!!), make them wear the strap around their neck while handling your precious DSLR!!!

6) Lens hood

The primary function of the lens hood is to prevent stray light from entering the lens as it extends and shade the front end of the lens. This is especially true if you shoot in the direction of the sun, causing unwanted artifacts in your picture such as lens flare, decrease contrast and image degradation.

By using a lens hood, you'll also get the added benefit of lens protection from any accidental impact or bumps. Accidental touches and scratches are also reduced. However, lens hood are only usually used when you shoot outdoors under bright sunlight or shoot under extreme lighting condition as protection again impact is secondary.

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Just in case you don't know how a lens hood looks like on a camera, here's a picture:

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Summary of advantages of lens hood:
1) Reduce unwanted flare
2) Richer colour/deeper saturation, improved contrast
3) Protection from impact or accidental touches/scratches
4) With a lens hood, many argue that you don't need to use a UV filter (which might degrade your images somewhat)


7) Batteries

One equipment that is often overlooked is the rechargeable batteries used in DSLR (or any electronic devices actually). The most common rechargeable battery nowadays are Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion) batteries which, like any other rechargables, have a certain lifespan.

Important : I was very surprised to find out about crucial important facts on Li-Ion batteries. Please read on the details of Li-ion batteries below, in the "D) Li-Ion battery packs" subsection.


8) Changing lenses - keep the dust away!

Most DSLR users (including noobs!) will usually have more lenses than they do cameras. As such, lens changing is unavoidable. As we all know, there is always a chance that dust can get into the camera every time you change lenses. Here are some tips to reduce this risk when you change your lens:

1) Minimize lens changing if possible
2) Change your lenses before you go out e.g. to the beach
3) Avoid dusty places
4) Turn off camera
5) Point your camera downwards - like you want to take picture of the ground 10 feet away (no need to point directly downwards!)
6) Change while the camera is on a tripod
7) Keep your back to the wind

Videos on how to change lenses (so easy!!):
Noob way to change lenses
Advanced noob way to change lenses (lol!)
Camera-hanging-around-neck lens changing technique
If-you-have-big-enough-hands lens changing technique
Super-glued-2x-rear-lens single-hand lens changing technique (got battery trick too!!!)
No-hands-professional lens changing technique

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9) Moisture condensation

Be careful if you take your DSLR directly from a cold to a warm place as this may cause moisture condensation outside as well as inside your camera e.g. from an air-condition room to outdoors, from car to outside. An extreme example is like the time you take out a can of soft drink from the fridge and leave it on the table. You'll see beads of water forming on the can in no time!

The condensation may cause a malfunction of the camera and also promote fungi growth.

To prevent this, you can do a few things BEFORE you take it to a warm environment:
1) Seal your camera in a plastic bag (e.g. Ziplock bag or even normal plastic bag) and allow it to adapt to conditions at the new location.
2) Keep your camera/lens in your camera bag and let it warm up gradually.
3) If you got none of the above, some even use towels!

The key point is that you want your camera to gradually warm up to the same temperature as it's surrounding environment. Sony instruction manual mentioned that you actually might have to wait up to an hour depending on condition! The higher the temperature difference, the longer you'd have to wait.

If you don't know what a ziplock bag looks like, take a look below (Don't mind the tomatoes!!!):

user posted image

If moisture condensation occurs, turn off the camera and wait about an hour for the moisture to evaporate. Note that if you attempt to shoot with moisture remaining inside the lens, you will be unable to record clear images (Sony instructionmanual)

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B) DSLR - Cleaning & maintenance

Cleaning kit
Buy a proper cleaning kit to clean your lenses. Please do not use toilet paper and water! rclxub.gif

Here's an example of what a good cleaning kit should include:
1) Lens cloth (preferably micro-fiber type)
2) Lens cleaning solution/liquid
3) Lens brush - to remove dust at the edge of the lens
4) Air-blower - to remove dust particles on the lens

Alternative - lens pen

In addition, it is recommended that you bring your cleaning kit along if you're planning to go for an outing. If you do get your lens dirty during a photo shooting, you are prepared with a proper cleaning kit rather than becoming "Macguyver" and use your t-shirt to clean the lens..... sweat.gif

Note : Hence, make sure your bag is big enough to fit your gears including the cleaning kit!





Cleaning your camera
To a pro, cleaning a DSLR is no doubt simple. However, to super noobs like me, it can be a daunting task because if you're not careful, you might just damage those sensitive parts of the camera.

Cleaning lenses @ UV filters
The important thing about cleaning lenses is prevention.

Cleaning the sensor
If you're a noob, most people would recommend you to send your camera to a professional for cleaning the sensor rather than doing it by yourself. The sensor is a very sensitive piece of equipment and if you do it improperly, you might just damage the sensor. You also risk exposing your camera's inner workings to dust if you open it at home.


Maintenance after beach session, rain, etc....

Thx to wtm0325 for the following contribution:

Canon DSLR ViewFinder Dust Cleaning
Source: http://shimworld.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/...-ii-viewfinder/
Note: Each Canon DSLR Model might be different (eg 400D will need to dismantle the whole black bracket before taking out the glass)

DSLR Sensor Cleaning using Dry Way
Source: http://www.naturescapes.net/phpBB3/viewtop...1&view=previous
Note: If rocket blower doesn't work, a normal size lenspen LP1/mini pro (need not lenspen sensorklear) can do the job for medium sticky dust, the only con is it might not able to clean the corner dust
Instructions:
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C) DSLR - Storage

Storing your camera and lenses

If you're not using your camera for extended periods of time, it is advisable to store your camera in a suitable place. In our country where the climate is humid, the best place to store it is in a dry box.

What is a dry box?
A dry box (@ dry cabinet) is a dehumidifying system which reduces the humidity (the amount of water vapor in the air) in the box. Usage of dry boxes basically prevent fungal growth on your camera/lenses and also prolongs the lifespan of your equipment.

There's a few reputable brand in Malaysia:
1) AIPO
2) Eureka
3) Sundry

The optimal level of relative humidity (RH) for your DSLR should be around 40-45%. (as compared to indoor surroundings which is about RH 60%+ (up to 80%+ on rainy days!))

Take a look at the table below:

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Source : http://shashinki.com/shop/aipo-digital-ser...aa4117e900d93d2

To be on the safe side, due to the +-1% variation in settings, it is recommended to set the dry box's RH to - 42-43%

Here's some picture of dry boxes:

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Source : http://www.zhaipo.com/en/products.html?pro...D%20NC%20Series

Please note that dry box is preferable only if you don't use your DSLR regularly. If you use your camera frequently (at least once a week), the chance of getting fungus on your DSLR is uncommon.

What's so great about fungus growth?

If fungus grows on your lens, it might just eat into your lens coating and cause permanent damage by etching into the lens.
If you ever do see signs of fungal growth, it is important that you get professional help as soon as possible.
- If you catch the fungus growth early, the lens elements can be cleaned and the damaged repaired
- If it is too late, you can more or less say bye-bye to your lens. The damage is irreversible and permanent, leading to poorer image quality when you shoot pictures with the affected lens

Fungus growth also applies to your camera's sensor.

Facts about fungus and DSLR (5):

Most ideal condition for fungus growth
1)Humidity level >50%
- Peak growing rate around 70-90% humidity (which is the common humidity level for our climate)
2) Dark places
3) Stagnant air
4) Temperature between 10-35 degrees celcius

Easily infected places
1) Camera bags
2) Store rooms

Important : Do not keep your DSLR in your carry bag as a storage bag. Unless you live in a very dry, low-humidity place, the stagnant air and moisture might just promote fungal growth.

Here's an example of fungus growing on lenses:

user posted image

Source:
1) http://www.sgcamerastore.com/DRY-Cabinet/A...-/prod_270.html
2) http://www.iantan.net/2009/04/what-does-ha...-your-dslr.html

Example of what happens when you store your DSLR in your camera bag in the cupboard for extended periods of time:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-...-equipment.html

What if I can't afford a dry box?
- Most enthusiast would say you're lying as you could afford to buy a DSLR!!!
- If you're equipment gets fungal growth, the cost of servicing and repair might be more than the cost of the dry box.

Anyway, if you're really cash tight and don't think a dry box is necessary, there are some alternatives to dry boxes.
a) Air-tight container + dehumidifier/dessicant packs (your own DIY dry box)
b) Good storage practices
c) Sunbath your lenses
d) Flash the lens using powerful flash

a) Air-tight container + dehumidifier/dessicant packs
A cheaper alternative is to buy an air-tight container and a dehumidifier like the "Thirsty Hippo" or silica dessicant packs/gels.
These cheap alternatives don't cost much but in the long run (over a few years), it might add up to a significant amount of money spent.
Another better alternative is using "Reusable" Silica gel packets that are usually sold by camera shops. These items can be recycled by heating them in the oven.

This is what Thirsty Hippo looks like:

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Silica gels :

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Reusable silical gel :

http://www.filmtools.com/silgelselin.html
http://www.filmtools.com/pesigel15.html
http://www.desiccantsonline.com/index.php?...iewCat&catId=25

Here's my temporary custom-made DIY dry box:

user posted image

There are a few problems with this method:
1) The humidity level in the box will be unregulated and the thirsty hippo might suck too much moisture. This may make the rubber seals on your DSLR turn hard and crack.
- one way to reduce this risk is to open the box regularly, maybe once a week (or even more frequent)
2) You have to replace the dehumidifier/dessicants regularly depending on how long they last
3) For long-term usage (in terms of years), you might spend money close to or above the cost of a small dry box

b) Good storage practices
Just in case you don't use a drybox and don't use the air-tight container method, it is important to have good storage practices for your equipments:
1) Don't store in darkness (e.g. store in a glass cabinet ensuring lots of indirect/direct light)
2) Ensure the cabinet has a good air-flow
3) Keep as far away as possible from leather or uncoated wood

? Don't store with UV filter in place (as UV light from sunlight will kill any fungus)

c) Sunbath your lenses
Yeah, that's right. You can sunbath your lenses (NOT the camera body!!! sweat.gif)

The UV light will kill the fungus (remember to take out your UV filter!)

Here's how you do it:
- Place under the sun
- lens only (do NOT attach the camera body)
- Once a week (maybe?)
- Duration ?

Disadvantage
- may dry up the rubber faster (reduce lifespan by making the rubber hard and cracked)
- may promote grease migration within the lens that could lead to oil on the aperture blades

Important : This method is rarely practiced and not generally talked about in photography forums. Do it at your own risk and I will not be blamed for any damages!!! Better do your own DIY dry box. tongue.gif

d) Flash the lens using powerful flash
Flash the lens - use a powerful flash e.g. f42, f58
Generates heat that kills the fungus

Here's how you do it:
- Aim your flash gun directly into the lens (without the body attached)
- 2-3 flashes is enough to kill or slow the fungus growth
- Once a week (maybe?)
- Supposedly safer than sunbath but less effective

Storage - lens on or off?
In actual fact, it doesn't matter if you leave the lens on or take it off. However, it is advisable to keep the lens on due to the following reasons:
1) Your DSLR is ready to be used once you take it out
2) There's less chance of introducing dust into the camera during the lens attachment/removal process


Storage - battery
Please refer to subsection "D) Li-Ion battery packs" for further info





Additional subsection
Naturally, you should not put your DSLR under the hot sun or in your car under that sun for prolonged periods of time as it may damage your camera or lenses.

Stated in the my DSLR manual:

PRECAUTION

Do not use/store the camera in the following places:
- In an extremely hot, dry or humid place. In places such as in a car parked in the sun, the camera body may become deformed shocking.gif and this may cause a malfunction.

Even with dry box - if shooting in extreme conditions e.g. rainy day shooting (RH 90+), seaside - can also sunbath

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D) Li-Ion battery packs

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Facts you should know about Li-Ion batteries (11):

1) Usually have a 300-500 discharge/charge cycles

- A “Discharge/charge cycle” means a single cycle of depleting followed by a re-charge until 100% of battery charge (i.e. one cycle of depleting to 0% and then charge to 100%).
- If you consume 50% of your battery on day 1, recharge to 100% at night, and do the same thing on day 2, then you would have just finished up one charge cycle of its battery life (15)

2) The battery prefers a partial discharge rather than a full discharge

- Frequent full discharges should be avoided when possible (that means using the camera until the battery goes dead or 0% charge)
- Instead, charge the battery more often
- A reference (for phone Li-Ion batteries) recommends charging once the battery has used/discharged to around 5-10% of total charge (12)

3) There is no memory effect for Li-Ion batteries


- Recharging a partially charged Li-Ion battery does not cause harm as it has no memory effect
- Frequent recharging does not shorten the battery life more than normal usage would (15)

4) Avoid allowing the battery to discharge completely (19)

- Li-ion batteries actually include special circuitry to protect the battery from damage due to overcharging or undercharging
- This circuit is built to protect from the damage that could result if the charge of your lithium ion battery falls too low.
- Once the battery goes below a certain voltage (i.e. charge falls too low), the internal safety circuit opens and the battery becomes dead (irreversibly and permanently damaged). Again, this is a built-in safety mechanism that prevent the battery from being recharged again.
- So since Lithium Ion has no “memory effect”, it is better to simply charge your portable device as and when you can or remember (15)
- This is especially true if you do not use your camera for a long time (many months), allowing the battery to slowly discharge until completely depleted.

5) If you don't use your camera for more than 1 week, remove the battery from the camera


- to prevent self-discharge if the battery is kept in the camera
- in extreme cases, due to self-discharge (until the battery is almost dead), you would not be able to charge the battery anymore
- It is basically to prevent the battery from being discharged completely

6) Hot environment


- Avoid using a fully charged battery in a hot environment for extended periods of time as a fully charge battery can go up to 45'c during operation

7) Cold (freezing!) environment

- Batteries do not function as well and run down faster in cold environments/weather.
- To prevent this, keep you batteries warm by either carrying your camera under your coat or carry your spare batteries in your pocket so that your body heat can keep them warm (14)

8) Li-Ion batteries have a certain life-span

- The fact is, Li-ion batteries starts dying the moment it leaves the factory! (15)
- The actual life-span of an unused Li-ion battery can vary but it can be expected to irreversibly lose 20% of the total charge every year from its original date of manufacture (15, 16, 19)
- Hence,
---- if you have a spare battery, don't keep it stored for years. Use it interchangeably with your current battery
---- don't simply buy 2nd hand Li-ion batteries. Check the manufacture date
---- don't buy "spare" batteries just in case you need it in the future. Save the money and buy it only when you need it
- Li-Ion batteries lose some of their capacity after one year and may fail after 2 or more years even when they are not in use (13)
- Once the battery has worn out, there are no way to make it work again

9) Storage
- Lithium-ion batteries can hold a charge for many months (they have a self-discharge rate of 5-10%)(19)
- As mentioned before, if you're planning to store your camera for prolonged periods, remember to take out the batteries
- For prolonged storage, keep the battery at 70-80% charge level in a cool dry environment
- You can also store the batteries in a refrigerator as it has been found to greatly extend the shelf life (but don't freeze it!!!)(18)
--- Ensure it is kept dry in the fridge (e.g. in an air-tight container). Long-term exposure to moisture in the fridge can cause corrosion
--- When removing batteries from the refrigerator, allow them to warm up to room temperature before using them in your device

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E) DSLR bags

Note : Thx to ieR for his valuable help and input in improving this subsection! thumbup.gif

There are many types of DSLR bags which can be divided into different categories:
1) Type of material - Leather, cotton, PVC, etc
2) Type of brand
3) Type of bag design - Shoulder bag, sling bag, backpack, etc.


1) Type of material

I would suggest avoiding leather bags because fungus grow easier on leather and may later affect your DSLR or the lenses.

2) Type of brand

There are many brands available in Malaysia. These include:
- Crumpler (Website)
- Domke (Website)
- Kata (Website)
- Lowepro (Website)
- Tamrac (Website)
- Thinktank (Website)
- Bagman
- Company brand e.g. Sony, Canon, Nikon, etc

3) Type of bag design

There are many types of DSLR bag to suit every situation. Some DSLR bags are fashionable, some are serious work bags, some meant for transporting(plane) and some for traveling.

They can be divided into:
a) Shoulder bag
b) Sling bag
c) Backpack
d) Travel bag
e) Beltpack
f) Harness and vest system

Whichever bag you choose (you may need a few bags for different circumstances), it is important to get a good bag that is:
1) Well-padded to properly protect the contents
2) Big enough to fit all your accessories
3) Have various comparments (that are usually adjustable) so that your DSLR and lenses fit snugly in the bag (and doesn't move around in the bag when you do move around!)
4) Security consideration (i.e. easy for thieves to steal your gears from behind if you wear a normal backpack)

a) Shoulder bag

As the name suggest, it is the camera bag carried on one shoulder. Sometimes called messenger bag. Example as below:

Attached Image
Source of picture : http://www.sony.com.my/product/lcs-amsc30


For some fashion-conscious people, shoulder bags can be a perfect fit as there are fashionable camera bags available (females only!). Example as below :

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Source of picture : http://www.switched.com/2010/02/16/dslr-pa...-to-the-highly/

Shoulder bags are generally not meant to carry 6-7 pieces of gears. Depending on the size, they can usually only carry a camera body, 1-2 lenses, flash gun, some cleaning tools and a few small extra items e.g. extra batteries.

One thing I notice about shoulder bags is that they tend to move around as you walk about. Even leaning out or bending down to get something might be inconvenient as the bag will swing forward and sometimes fall out of your shoulders.

Note : There seems to be some confusion regarding the term shoulder bag and sling bag. Refer to the "Sling bag" subsection for more understanding.

Advantages of shoulder bag (21):
1) Can be loaded with more gears
2) Easy to access your camera
3) May count as a personal item which can be brought in addition to one-piece carry-on on most flights

Disadvantages:
1) A lot of weight on one shoulder
2) Dangle around during moderate activity
3) Difficult to carry around during activities which required good mobility

b) Sling bag

Sling bag employs a style that is becoming more popular in the photography world these days. The Sling bag is worn on your back, with the strap across the front of your body. When you need to access the bag, you don't actually need to take it off. Just simply slide it underneath your arm, and rest it on your chest, where it's easily accessible (20).

One good example is the Slingshot series from Lowepro:

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Source of pictures : Lowepro website

Once you have used your camera, you can easily keep it back in the bag the same way you took it out.

You can also put the bag directly horizontal in front of you and use it as a stabilizing platform where you can rest both your elbows on the bag. This minimizes shake when taking pictures.

Slingshot reviews:
Slingshot 100AW
Slingshot 202AW
Slingshot 300AW

Advantages of a slingbag:
1) Comfortable and easy to move around (like a backpack)
2) Easy to access your camera/gears without taking off the bag
3) Opening for access to camera may be difficult for thieves to steal the camera while wearing the bag

Disadvantages
1) Weight distribution not as good as backpack (but still quite good)
2) Capacity usually not as big as backpack


c) Backpack

Backpack are excellent for users who need to carry the camera and their

There are many choices of backpacks available. They are usually built to contain adjustable compartments to store your camera/accessories. Their sizes can range from small to large sizes : Small (3x3 compartments), big (3x4) and huge (3x5). Some has laptop compartment, raincoat, and tripod straps (to carry tripod along) which is more preferable for enthusiast.

An example of 3x4 backpack (3 rows x 4 columns):
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and the amount of gear to carry
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Advantages (21) of a backpack:
1) Largest possible capacity for your gears
2) Comfortable distribution of weight
3) Greatest mobility for activity (arms are free too!)

Disadvantages:
1) Difficult to get your camera, backpack must be removed
2) Working with gears is uncomfortable, usually need to put down the backpack
3) Gears not in sight, higher risk of being robbed!!
4) Rarely counts as a personal item on flights

d) Travel bag

Some people use backpacks to transport their gear in long distance, some uses specially designed bags like the thinktank's Airport Security series, they cost a lot, but they definately protect ur gears in long flight. it allow u to bring almost all your gears to shooting location, unlike backpack, they cant really carry on your back, because with all the gear u carry, they easily weight over 20kg(hence, these bag usually coems with trolley), which is not good for your back. handle the back and your (human)body with care.

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e) Belt pack

Belt packs are worn at the waist (like a belt). Their sizes vary and can be large enough to hold a DSLR, several lenses and other smaller accessories. It is easy and comfortable to move around while wearing the belt pack. In addtion, as it is worn in front of you, it is easy to access your gears as well as preventing thieves from stealing your gears. However, the bag might get in the way if you try to sit, crouch or swat down.

Here's an example of an exceptionally large belt pack:

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Source : http://www.thinktankphoto.com/products/spe...-belt-pack.aspx

Advantages (21) of a belt pack
1) Comfortable distribution of weight
2) Equipment easily accessible
3) Bag is visible while being worn
4) Generally counted as a personal item and can be brought in addition to a one piece of carry-on on most flights

Disadvantages
1) Sitting and crouching may be difficult
2) Usually have to remove while sitting (unless it is a very small bag which can be pushed sideways)


f) Harness and vest system

They are not actually not bags but a harness and vest system like below:

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but another way to carry ur gears around, usually meant to carry with you 'all time'. they are usually used by professional(with jobs) like wedding photographers, because they need extra batteries and changing lens on the spot. harness and vest are not essential for normal photographer, but many would love to wear one to look cool;)



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Camera bags that comes with your camera

On many occasion, you'll get a free camera bag that comes along with your DSLR but might not be big enough or good enough to protect your DSLR. In that case, it would be wise to get a better one.

Bags that are bundled with a DSLR (if they don't give FOC (free-of-charge), bargain for it!) are usually simple, small and enough for the current camera/gears that you own at that time.

ieR's FOC bag
Here's a picture of the simple cheap FOC bag (some of us call it the china bag)
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Here is the amount of gears it can store (I missplace my divider, but it give some rough idea how much gear u can store inside)
(* I am suppose to throw in a lenspen and blower, or some cleaning kits)
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Many people hate this type of square bag(hey, it's free anyway), as it doesn't stay at one place when u carry it, it swings around, and it is very obvious a camera bag that attracts unwanted attention.

kmarc's FOC bag
Small bag with lousy design might also make it difficult to store or retrieve your DSLR from the bag.

For example, my free DSLR bag is a small bag with zips(avoid this at all cause!)as below (left picture). I found that it is difficult to insert my camera into the bag without eventually getting the camera scratched by the zip on entry or on removal. My solution was to actually get a soft cloth (that's my old Guess t-shirt!!) that line the interior of the bag and protrude out on both sides of the bag to protect my camera on insertion and removal (right picture).

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Note : My DSLR actually came with a better shoulder bag which cost RM240. However, I didn't like it and requested for another bag which is RM120. The vendor actually gave me a RM100 discount!!!

Choosing the right bag for you.
Some of u (seasonal pro) might own 5-7 bags, some own 2, i (ieR) owns 4 type of bags. choosing a right one is important. i do not carry Big Backpack every time i go out, (i would love to own a fashion sling bag enough for a body and 2 lens)...


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DSLR bags are usually expensive(200-4k), hence there are people who DIY, (will get back to that later on) or some people who seek those China-made DSLR bags (rm30-300)


(footnote: bag are not recommended to store your gears for a long period of time, bags afterall, are also a breeding ground for fungus even u put several packs of silica gels inside. see C) DSLR - Storage for better understanding of long term storage)

#A1i - Sling Bags (also the normal square boxed bags)





the Large ones are like
['img]http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv88/kmarc73/Camera-goodbag.jpg['/img]




there are ways to hide the intention of bag(DSLR), below*


lowerpro messenger (quick link)
Crumpler series (quick link)

#A1ii - BackPacks



*** suppose to add another type of bag, but i dunno what's it call,
some ppl do not plan to get futher more lenses, (aka family shooter) and prefer an ALL IN ONE lens, (eg: 18-250), this type of bag suit them the best.

user posted image


#A1iii - travel bags



#A1iv - harness and vest system



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F) References

References:
1) http://www.ehow.com/how_4890095_care-dslr.html
2) http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Canon-L...Lens-Hoods.aspx
3) http://ezinearticles.com/?Protect-Your-DSL...Bags&id=1992513
4) http://www.jmg-galleries.com/blog/2009/04/...-high-humidity/
5) http://www.photomalaysia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88737
6) http://www.life123.com/hobbies/photography...lr-camera.shtml
7) http://blog.webshots.com/?p=1016
8) http://photographyguidestutorial.com/category/camera-care
9) http://www.mypentax.com/Fungus.html
10) http://www.schneideroptics.com/info/handbo...Handbook8_9.pdf
11) http://ww3.microtek.com.tw/tw/uploads/faq/...ium_battery.pdf
12) http://www.cellutips.com/four-tips-for-pro...-phone-battery/
13) http://www.cellutips.com/four-tips-for-pro...-phone-battery/
14) http://www.dptips-central.com/camera-batteries.html
15) http://www.techatplay.com/?p=61
16) http://ezinearticles.com/?What-You-Need-To...eries&id=288263
17) http://www.greenbatteries.com/libafa.html
18) http://www.batterymart.com/c-battery-facts-faqs.html
19) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion_battery
20) http://www.switched.com/2010/02/16/dslr-pa...-to-the-highly/
21) http://www.neocamera.com/feature_camerabags.html

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Added on January 22, 2010, 4:11 pmHi guys, I am in the process of doing a complete guide on taking good care of your DSLR.

Kindly give your comments, critisim, tips, advice, suggestions on the 2 almost complete subsections, which is the :

A) DSLR - general care
C) DSLR - storage

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QUOTE(dwin95 @ Jan 23 2010, 12:54 PM)
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c) Sunbath your lenses

sorry for asking a noob question
is that really necessary?
i thought the uv filter was suppose to protect the lens coating from uv rays...


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QUOTE(eanson @ Jan 24 2010, 01:42 AM)
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Cool. Still work in progress though wink.gif

QUOTE(yanhui95 @ Jan 24 2010, 02:40 PM)
c) Sunbath your lenses

sorry for asking a noob question
is that really necessary?
i thought the uv filter was suppose to protect the lens coating from uv rays...
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That's a good point. I think we should remove the UV filter if we want to use that method.

I still need further info and clarification from our sifus too, hence the quote "*need more info". wink.gif

Will update it once I get more info.


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thanks a lot bro...this is really helpful smile.gif

maybe something to add about storing batteries..

use it (or charge it) until around 50%, and keep them wrapped in something, plastic bag would do. then store in the fridge to retain the battery lifespan. even if u're not storing it in a fridge, juz remember to wrap the battery in something to avoid the connectors touching any conductors that would cause short circuit
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Jan 24 2010, 04:29 PM)
thanks a lot bro...this is really helpful smile.gif

maybe something to add about storing batteries..

use it (or charge it) until around 50%, and keep them wrapped in something, plastic bag would do. then store in the fridge to retain the battery lifespan. even if u're not storing it in a fridge, juz remember to wrap the battery in something to avoid the connectors touching any conductors that would cause short circuit
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Cool! I haven't come to the battery part yet but I've heard about the fridge thingy before. Do you have any links regarding this? Will google for it too.

This link actually did mention something related to your post : http://ww3.microtek.com.tw/tw/uploads/faq/...ium_battery.pdf

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For prolonged storage, keep the battery at a 70% ~ 80% charge level in cool environment.


Will do the battery part soon....... smile.gif
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seems like there're lots for me to learn b4 taking up a dslr plan...
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QUOTE(yanhui95 @ Jan 24 2010, 02:40 PM)
c) Sunbath your lenses

sorry for asking a noob question
is that really necessary?
i thought the uv filter was suppose to protect the lens coating from uv rays...
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No, the UV was meant to protect film during the film era. today, UV filter is totally useless with digital sensor. it just that, the market for UV is hard to die because people are not educated that UV has no what-so-ever function for digital sensor. but they get it for a simple protection for the lens. not just against knock, but WIPES, when u cant find proper cloth to wipe, using ur cloth(baju( is the best and fastest way, thus, the filter usually let u guys wipe as hard as u wan, coz it is expandable.

usually, what people look for is MC filter, the multi coated, to prevent flare (those who got UV only, will add flare to ur photo, go test it~) and cut down lightsources (a little like ND or CPL effect) some people notice when using MC filter, they got 1/3 drop of speed... but live with it. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ieR @ Jan 25 2010, 06:18 PM)
No, the UV was meant to protect film during the film era. today, UV filter is totally useless with digital sensor. it just that, the market for UV is hard to die because people are not educated that UV has no what-so-ever function for digital sensor. but they get it for a simple protection for the lens. not just against knock, but WIPES, when u cant find proper cloth to wipe, using ur cloth(baju( is the best and fastest way, thus, the filter usually let  u guys wipe as hard as u wan, coz it is expandable.

usually, what people look for is MC filter, the multi coated, to prevent flare (those who got UV only, will add flare to ur photo, go test it~) and cut down lightsources (a little like ND or CPL effect) some people notice when using MC filter, they got 1/3 drop of speed... but live with it. tongue.gif
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Wow! My sifu has come!!! notworthy.gif

Errrmmm... MRC filter will reduce the speed aaah? You mean the focusing speed? hmm.gif

Anyway, so sorry ya sifu, I going to order the "B+W 62mm XS-PRO Digital MRC UV Haze 010M Filter". Don't hentam me ok..... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 25 2010, 06:43 PM)
Wow! My sifu has come!!!  notworthy.gif

Errrmmm... MRC filter will reduce the speed aaah? You mean the focusing speed?  hmm.gif

Anyway, so sorry ya sifu, I going to order the "B+W 62mm XS-PRO Digital MRC UV Haze 010M Filter". Don't hentam me ok.....  sweat.gif
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the reduce speed is in term of shutter-speed, example
on a situation, you can take nominal exposure (EV+0) with setting 1/60 F4 with UV filter off..
but if with UV filter, you maybe need to use 1/30 to form a same exposure.. (this depend on uv filter reduce how many stop)


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hello, i have Nikon D60, and i want 'bring it' to winter country soon (temperature is under 0 degree celsius), is there any suggestion of how to keep it 'warm' without damaging my camera when i taking the picture outdoor or when i am in the outdoor, but not taking picture...

I only know that I need to on the dslr all the time....is there any other suggestion?

according to some review, the D60 working environment is btw 0~40 C


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QUOTE(hiansitt @ Feb 2 2010, 12:12 AM)
the reduce speed is in term of shutter-speed, example
on a situation, you can take nominal exposure (EV+0) with setting 1/60 F4 with UV filter off..
but if with UV filter, you maybe need to use 1/30 to form a same exposure.. (this depend on uv filter reduce how many stop)
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Oh I see..... Thx for the explanation. smile.gif

I still need to read up on the f-stop and how it is affected by various factors in addition to how it affects your picture....

QUOTE(Lennethe @ Feb 2 2010, 02:17 PM)
hello, i  have Nikon D60, and i want 'bring it' to winter country soon (temperature is under 0 degree celsius), is there any suggestion of how to keep it 'warm' without damaging my camera when i taking the picture outdoor or when i am in the outdoor, but not taking picture...

I only know that I need to on the dslr all the time....is there any other suggestion?

according to some review, the D60 working environment is btw 0~40 C
Thanks is advance!
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I haven't completed that part of the guide yet as I thought it was not important in our country. Anyway, here's some links that I googled up, take a look. Otherwise, you can also google up with keywords like "Using DSLR in winter" :

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1214739
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83002
http://www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?actio...HREAD_ID=502394
http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....showtopic=20432

Will complete that part of the guide one day. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(hiansitt @ Feb 2 2010, 12:12 AM)
the reduce speed is in term of shutter-speed, example
on a situation, you can take nominal exposure (EV+0) with setting 1/60 F4 with UV filter off..
but if with UV filter, you maybe need to use 1/30 to form a same exposure.. (this depend on uv filter reduce how many stop)
since when does UV reduce so much light la?


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seems like there're lots for me to learn b4 taking up a dslr plan...
thx 4 this thread btw =D It helps alot.
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not necessarily. you can just buy DSLR and learn it along the way. smile.gif

what is stated here are guides.


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Oh I see..... Thx for the explanation.  smile.gif

I still need to read up on the f-stop and how it is affected by various factors in addition to how it affects your picture....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-number

basically "Depth of field" increases with f-number. higher f-number means narrower aperture meaning less light go through so slower shutter speed.

lower f-number = wider aperture, more light come in, faster shutter speed can be used, less DOF, more bokeh. biggrin.gif

lenses are commonly not at their sharpest when at widest available aperture.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Feb 2 2010, 03:39 PM)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-number

basically "Depth of field" increases with f-number. higher f-number means narrower aperture meaning less light go through so slower shutter speed.

lower f-number = wider aperture, more light come in, faster shutter speed can be used, less DOF, more bokeh. biggrin.gif

lenses are commonly not at their sharpest when at widest available aperture.
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may i know how long can the HIPPO last??
how can i tell when to replace it?

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hi there...
may i know how long can the HIPPO last??
how can i tell when to replace it?

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The bottom part of the Hippo will fill up with water until a certain level. Once it reaches that level which is marked on the container, you will have to replace it. smile.gif

The instructions on when to replace it is clearly written on the back label. wink.gif

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The bottom part of the Hippo will fill up with water until a certain level. Once it reaches that level which is marked on the container, you will have to replace it. smile.gif

The instructions on when to replace it is clearly written on the back label. wink.gif
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hi there,
thanks for your reply.. then may i know one container of hippo can roughly last how long?
so tat i know how many boxes should i buy.
thanks...

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hi there,
thanks for your reply.. then may i know one container of hippo can roughly last how long?
so tat i know how many boxes should i buy.
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Errrm.... this is my first time using the Hippo too so I'm not too sure myself.

My wife said if put in cupboard, can last 1-2 months, maybe 3 months depending on how humid it is and how frequent you open the cupboard. I'm thinking that if you put in an air-tight container, it would last even longer.

I just bought one and I think you can try to buy one first to see how long it last. wink.gif

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I got a suggestion, add a 'Silica Gel Packs' to your DIY dry-box section. These Silica Gel Packs are sold in camera shops like Shangri-La, and you can microwave them to reuse them instead of having to buy new Thistry Hippos.

+ here is a link to show you how it looks like. http://www.hartvilletool.com/product/11481

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QUOTE(latias93 @ Feb 7 2010, 04:10 PM)
I got a suggestion, add a 'Silica Gel Packs' to your DIY dry-box section. These Silica Gel Packs are sold in camera shops like Shangri-La, and you can microwave them to reuse them instead of having to buy new Thistry Hippos.

+ here is a link to show you how it looks like. http://www.hartvilletool.com/product/11481
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Hey, thx for the tip. I didn't even know that there's such a thing as "reusable" silical packs. Will add that into the guide. Thx! thumbup.gif

Anybody got any picture of their own reusable gel packs? I can include that in the guide instead of pulling it off the internet. nod.gif


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another pinned thread by kmarc thumbup.gif
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Thx. smile.gif Nothing great about pinned thread la..... wink.gif

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Hello, I have read through the site you have posted, really learnt something, but where can I buy the hot pad they mentioned? in the pharmacy? watson? guardian? I just went to a pharmacy in the sunway pyramid, and the hot pad was a very large size for 'human' use, there is small size one right?

i mean disposable one

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QUOTE(Lennethe @ Feb 8 2010, 10:02 PM)
Hello, I have read through the site you have posted, really learnt something, but where can I buy the hot pad they mentioned? in the pharmacy? watson? guardian? I just went to a pharmacy in the sunway pyramid, and the hot pad was a very large size for 'human' use, there is small size one right?

i mean disposable one
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Errrmm.... what hot pad are you referring to? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Lennethe @ Feb 9 2010, 11:18 AM)
OIC. I'm have no idea about that. Maybe our sifus can help..... wink.gif
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guys, wana ask, what if i kept my DSLR at my car boot (which is very hot compare to most of other car) for few days when i am driving and not using it, isit ok?
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Feb 23 2010, 08:36 AM)
guys, wana ask, what if i kept my DSLR at my car boot (which is very hot compare to most of other car) for few days when i am driving and not using it, isit ok?
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Errmmmm, I think the practice of NOT putting anything in a hot car under the sun applies to any electronic devices, not just DSLR.

Anyway, here's what is stated in the my DSLR manual:

PRECAUTION

Do not use/store the camera in the following places:
- In an extremely hot, dry or humid place. In places such as in a car parked in the sun, the camera body may become deformed shocking.gif and this may cause a malfunction.



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hm...thats what i think too.

but my car is not always under the sun while parking, its just that when i was driving, my car boot is very hot sad.gif

sigh....i better not put in there anymore liao @@

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kmarc, a question here...

When i'm in a car, will those vibration n shocks from irregular road surfaces cause any damage to my camera?
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QUOTE(lugiamcg @ Feb 23 2010, 07:34 PM)
kmarc, a question here...

When i'm in a car, will those vibration n shocks from irregular road surfaces cause any damage to my camera?
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Alamak! I'm also a noob leh, dunno about that..... icon_rolleyes.gif

Have to ask our sifus/pros (who seldom come into this thread..... sad.gif)
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 23 2010, 08:46 PM)
Alamak! I'm also a noob leh, dunno about that.....  icon_rolleyes.gif

Have to ask our sifus/pros (who seldom come into this thread.....  sad.gif)
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i'll redirect that ques to Orange L. soon =D
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a few days ago i was driving home n noticed an open burning during a beautiful sunset. i didnt have my camera with me, so i drove home, get my dslr n come back (all in all maybe just 5mins)...but at the time the sunset was gone

so my question...is there a safe way to store a camera in my car all the time? so i wont miss a shot tongue.gif safe from thieves, from heat, from bumps n everything
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Mar 13 2010, 12:22 AM)
a few days ago i was driving home n noticed an open burning during a beautiful sunset. i didnt have my camera with me, so i drove home, get my dslr n come back (all in all maybe just 5mins)...but at the time the sunset was gone

so my question...is there a safe way to store a camera in my car all the time? so i wont miss a shot tongue.gif safe from thieves, from heat, from bumps n everything
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QUOTE(lugiamcg @ Feb 23 2010, 07:34 PM)
kmarc, a question here...

When i'm in a car, will those vibration n shocks from irregular road surfaces cause any damage to my camera?
FYI the camera is not as weak as what we think it is. in fact it's tough!

you think about it, which part of the car you put? cushion? in a bag? smile.gif or you put it in a hard metal case?

it's not uncommon for camera bodies to knock the human body, and other cameras and even walls and tables during events. they can withstand knocks and such.

in car? just put in a bag with some decent padding and you're all set to go. after all you put on the cushion anyway.
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Mar 13 2010, 12:22 AM)
a few days ago i was driving home n noticed an open burning during a beautiful sunset. i didnt have my camera with me, so i drove home, get my dslr n come back (all in all maybe just 5mins)...but at the time the sunset was gone

so my question...is there a safe way to store a camera in my car all the time? so i wont miss a shot tongue.gif safe from thieves, from heat, from bumps n everything
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I don't know the answer but personally, I wouldn't keep an expensive DLSR in the car in the first place. Many reasons but the main factor is thieves.

If I want to really keep it in the car, I was thinking about using an ice box with padded sponge, but that's just me.

I think the better alternative is having a good DSLR backpack that is convenient to carry so that you can carry your DSLR around? hmm.gif

QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 13 2010, 10:13 PM)
FYI the camera is not as weak as what we think it is. in fact it's tough!

you think about it, which part of the car you put? cushion? in a bag? smile.gif or you put it in a hard metal case?

it's not uncommon for camera bodies to knock the human body, and other cameras and even walls and tables during events. they can withstand knocks and such.

in car? just put in a bag with some decent padding and you're all set to go. after all you put on the cushion anyway.
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After putting on the cushion, don't forget to put on the safety belt!!!! biggrin.gif
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hmm,
if everything else works perfectly according to goldfries n kmarc's method,
juz wondering if a sudden deceleration can kill a dslr? (assuming high speed car crash n u live to see the camera again)

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you think too much liao la.

no point go so far leh. smile.gif for me the camera is always in a bag, with padding. sometimes i just put on the seat only, no seat belt. sometimes kena before brake the fella tumble, small matter.

damn difficult to kill any SLR la. at most something not working, can still fix. so that's not exactly KILL isn't it?

you worry too much.


Added on March 13, 2010, 11:49 pmif want to worry, i lagi worry last year cover event and standing near helicopter.

gila my sling bag also become sail already, some more i didn't close my bag. faster fasten it before all my glasses drop out. haha.
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if i accident, i'd be busy worrying about my car rather than my DSLR... haha

backpack umm..no no dun wan to bring camera all the time hehe

thief-related issues aside... how about heat? if left in the car too long under sunlight can spoil the camera? n battery?
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Mar 14 2010, 02:03 AM)
if i accident, i'd be busy worrying about my car rather than my DSLR... haha

backpack umm..no no dun wan to bring camera all the time hehe

thief-related issues aside... how about heat? if left in the car too long under sunlight can spoil the camera? n battery?
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PRECAUTION

Do not use/store the camera in the following places:
- In an extremely hot, dry or humid place. In places such as in a car parked in the sun, the camera body may become deformed sweat.gif and this may cause a malfunction.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 13 2010, 11:49 PM)
you think too much liao la.

no point go so far leh. smile.gif for me the camera is always in a bag, with padding. sometimes i just put on the seat only, no seat belt. sometimes kena before brake the fella tumble, small matter.

damn difficult to kill any SLR la. at most something not working, can still fix. so that's not exactly KILL isn't it?

you worry too much.


Added on March 13, 2010, 11:49 pmif want to worry, i lagi worry last year cover event and standing near helicopter.

gila my sling bag also become sail already, some more i didn't close my bag. faster fasten it before all my glasses drop out. haha.
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lol, thats a relieve =D
juz asking to see how tough can a dslr be, and it sounds pretty tough to me biggrin.gif

never been close to a started copter b4 lol. So i don't know how strong the wind can be blush.gif
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 14 2010, 08:18 AM)
Here's what is stated in the my DSLR manual:

PRECAUTION

Do not use/store the camera in the following places:
- In an extremely hot, dry or humid place. In places such as in a car parked in the sun, the camera body may become deformed  sweat.gif  and this may cause a malfunction.
this applies to anything la. remember that your camera's LCD are also ......well, LIQUID!

many things around can melt as well since many part of it is plastic.

there are internal components to consider as well. i've placed in car parked in hot sun before but it's in a bag so before the heat reaches the camera internals, it has to heat up the car first, then the air, then through the back, then the air inside the bag.

left it there for few hours, was quite warm when i took it out of the car. i wouldn't do it on a a daily basis though, not for long run.

nowadays i just bring my stuff along. too heavy a risk, unless the place is secure.

QUOTE(lugiamcg @ Mar 14 2010, 02:10 PM)
lol, thats a relieve =D
juz asking to see how tough can a dslr be, and it sounds pretty tough to me  biggrin.gif

never been close to a started copter b4 lol. So i don't know how strong the wind can be  blush.gif
mine shooting when heli landing. biggrin.gif imaging fighting the wind + handling the bag.

so far i face those heli on a yearly basis la, just that last year i don't recall the heli landing that near. this year if the organizer do the same thing, well heli time again! hopefully by then I'll have my belt units ready.

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 14 2010, 08:18 AM)
Here's what is stated in the my DSLR manual:

PRECAUTION

Do not use/store the camera in the following places:
- In an extremely hot, dry or humid place. In places such as in a car parked in the sun, the camera body may become deformed  sweat.gif  and this may cause a malfunction.
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ya i know...all electronics got this warning. that's y im wondering if someone figured out a safe way to store my camera in my car tongue.gif
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A noob question here... where can i buy silica-gel ? or other product which can absorb humidity....? ( note: i live in kedah )
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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Mar 18 2010, 02:03 AM)
A noob question here... where can i buy silica-gel ? or other product which can absorb humidity....? ( note: i live in kedah )
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The 1 they put in wardrobe ?
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Yup. The one you put in your wardrobe. Look at the picture on the first page of the guide wink.gif

My first thirsty hippo is 1/3 full. That's for the last 1 and a half months. I think I can stretch it to 4 months.

Just that each hippo is quite expensive. I bought mine in Sibu for RM16.90!!! rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 18 2010, 08:14 PM)
Yup. The one you put in your wardrobe. Look at the picture on the first page of the guide wink.gif

My first thirsty hippo is 1/3 full. That's for the last 1 and a half months. I think I can stretch it to 4 months.

Just that each hippo is quite expensive. I bought mine in Sibu for RM16.90!!!  rclxub.gif
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Ya... but my home didint use product like that.. so i dont really know about that...
But didint the packet like silica-gel or other humidity absorb product found in the container of medicine can be used? Since the main objective is to lower the humidity of the air.....
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Ya... but my home didint use product like that.. so i dont really know about that...
But didint the packet like silica-gel or other humidity absorb product found in the container of medicine can be used? Since the main objective is to lower the humidity of the air.....
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Can be used. Did you read the guide or not? tongue.gif
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Can be used. Did you read the guide or not?  tongue.gif
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Can we keep the UV filter and CPL filter in dry cabinet?

What is the best RH% to set for Aipo dry cabinet, as mentioned from the guide is 42%-43% but in Aipo instruction manual is 30%-40%? rclxub.gif

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Can we keep the UV filter and CPL filter in dry cabinet?

What is the best RH% to set for Aipo dry cabinet, as mentioned from the guide is 42%-43% but in Aipo instruction manual is 30%-40%?  rclxub.gif
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I think what you mean is whether it is NECESSARY to keep those filters in the dry cabinet right?

Filters are relatively cheap compared to lenses unless you buy very expensive CPLs. As such, in my opinion, it is not necessary to keep them in the dry box. In addition, I don't think it is easy for filters to get fungus as they are just a one piece part.

Another example is your typical compact camera. I don't think any typical user would buy a dry box even if the camera cost RM1k ............ wink.gif

For RH% setting, during my research, there were varying recommendations regarding RH% setting for DSLR. As far as I can tell, most experts would recommend an RH value of 40-45%.

The reason to recommend 42-43% is because of small inaccuracy in the boxes i.e. you set at 40% and your dry box might be running at 38%!!!!

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I think what you mean is whether it is NECESSARY to keep those filters in the dry cabinet right?

Filters are relatively cheap compared to lenses unless you buy very expensive CPLs. As such, in my opinion, it is not necessary to keep them in the dry box. In addition, I don't think it is easy for filters to get fungus as they are just a one piece part.

Another example is your typical compact camera. I don't think any typical user would buy a dry box even if the camera cost RM1k ............  wink.gif

For RH% setting, during my research, there were varying recommendations regarding RH% setting for DSLR. As far as I can tell, most experts would recommend an RH value of 40-45%.

The reason to recommend 42-43% is because of small inaccuracy in the boxes i.e. you set at 40% and your dry box might be running at 38%!!!!
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Is it wise to buy a Dry Box if I dont use the camera for 2-7 days like that?
Been thinking, if it isnt necessary then I would make a DIY Dry Box like the Thirsty Hippo and Container..
Any Suggestions? whistling.gif
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Is it wise to buy a Dry Box if I dont use the camera for 2-7 days like that?
Been thinking, if it isnt necessary then I would make a DIY Dry Box like the Thirsty Hippo and Container..
Any Suggestions?  whistling.gif
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A dry box is a good option but it also depends on various factors. For one, if you have expensive lenses and many camera bodies, then a dry box is a must. Another factor is how rich you are. biggrin.gif There are other pros and cons in the guide.

I am still using my DIY dry box with the thirsty hippo. I think I can stretch the usage of the thirsty hippo to at least 3-4 months (and I'm opening my box almost everyday). In terms of cost, DIY dry box is cheaper but in the long run (over many years), the dry box is a better alternative.

Here's my calculation on the cost:

My DIY container : RM25
Thirsty Hippo x1 : RM16 (price in Sibu, can last for say 3 months)
- that makes it RM16 x 4 = RM64 per year

Use thirsty hippo for 5 years = RM64 x 5 = RM 320

Total cost after 5 years = RM320 + container = RM345

That's about the same price as a small dry box (dry box power consumption is about 3-5w, so not much electricity overhead). However, if your dry box failed, then have to send in for warranty or pay for the repair if no warranty.

By 5 years, I'd probably buy a new DSLR, maybe Sony alpha 2550!!! rclxm9.gif

So for me, I'll stick to my DIY dry box for the moment. wink.gif

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 28 2010, 11:45 AM)
A dry box is a good option but it also depends on various factors. For one, if you have expensive lenses and many camera bodies, then a dry box is a must. Another factor is how rich you are.  biggrin.gif  There are other pros and cons in the guide.

I am still using my DIY dry box with the thirsty hippo. I think I can stretch the usage of the thirsty hippo to at least 3-4 months (and I'm opening my box almost everyday). In terms of cost, DIY dry box is cheaper but in the long run (over many years), the dry box is a better alternative.

Here's my calculation on the cost:

My DIY container : RM25
Thirsty Hippo x1 : RM16 (price in Sibu, can last for say 3 months)
- that makes it RM16 x 4 = RM64 per year

Use thirsty hippo for 5 years = RM64 x 5 = RM 320

Total cost after 5 years = RM320 + container = RM345

That's about the same price as a small dry box (dry box power consumption is about 3-5w, so not much electricity overhead). However, if your dry box failed, then have to send in for warranty or pay for the repair if no warranty.

By 5 years, I'd probably buy a new DSLR, maybe Sony alpha 2550!!!  rclxm9.gif

So for me, I'll stick to my DIY dry box for the moment.  wink.gif
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Ah wahahah... So I guess I would go for the DIY Dry Box then rclxm9.gif
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Note: Each Canon DSLR Model might be different (eg 400D will need to dismantle the whole black bracket before taking out the glass)

DSLR Sensor Cleaning using Dry Way
Source: http://www.naturescapes.net/phpBB3/viewtop...1&view=previous
Note: If rocket blower doesn't work, a normal size lenspen LP1/mini pro (need not lenspen sensorklear) can do the job for medium sticky dust, the only con is it might not able to clean the corner dust
Instructions:
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My work log: 13 April 2010 3AM Because all the lich people here feed poison to me, I have no money to send my Canon 400D to service centre and decided to do the cleaning myself! However during dismantling the viewfinder, I somehow mishandled and scratched the viewfinder with the black bracket and now whenever I looked through the viewfinder I see scratches, but it doesn't affect picture quality sweat.gif

KIDS, DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME! IF YOU ARE POOR ALSO DON'T DO THIS! DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK! tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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hey guys, i need your help, does anyone know where i can get my old lenses cleaned? it has fungus growing on the back.. and how much would it cost? coz if its really too expensive, i might juz get a new lens instead
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Canon DSLR ViewFinder Dust Cleaning
Source: http://shimworld.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/...-ii-viewfinder/
Note: Each Canon DSLR Model might be different (eg 400D will need to dismantle the whole black bracket before taking out the glass)

DSLR Sensor Cleaning using Dry Way
Source: http://www.naturescapes.net/phpBB3/viewtop...1&view=previous
Note: If rocket blower doesn't work, a normal size lenspen LP1/mini pro (need not lenspen sensorklear) can do the job for medium sticky dust, the only con is it might not able to clean the corner dust
Instructions:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


My work log: 13 April 2010 3AM Because all the lich people here feed poison to me, I have no money to send my Canon 400D to service centre and decided to do the cleaning myself! However during dismantling the viewfinder, I somehow mishandled and scratched the viewfinder with the black bracket and now whenever I looked through the viewfinder I see scratches, but it doesn't affect picture quality  sweat.gif

KIDS, DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME! IF YOU ARE POOR ALSO DON'T DO THIS! DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK! tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Will update the guide this weekend when I have time. wink.gif

Update : Guide updated!!! smile.gif

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Nice links.  thumbup.gif

Will update the guide this weekend when I have time.  wink.gif

Update : Guide updated!!!  smile.gif
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 21 2010, 10:33 AM)
I think what you mean is whether it is NECESSARY to keep those filters in the dry cabinet right?

Filters are relatively cheap compared to lenses unless you buy very expensive CPLs. As such, in my opinion, it is not necessary to keep them in the dry box. In addition, I don't think it is easy for filters to get fungus as they are just a one piece part.

Another example is your typical compact camera. I don't think any typical user would buy a dry box even if the camera cost RM1k ............  wink.gif

For RH% setting, during my research, there were varying recommendations regarding RH% setting for DSLR. As far as I can tell, most experts would recommend an RH value of 40-45%.

The reason to recommend 42-43% is because of small inaccuracy in the boxes i.e. you set at 40% and your dry box might be running at 38%!!!!
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*gulps* I dont know there is so much thhingy need to know about slr even after almost near to a year of having 1 myself.

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 28 2010, 11:45 AM)
A dry box is a good option but it also depends on various factors. For one, if you have expensive lenses and many camera bodies, then a dry box is a must. Another factor is how rich you are.  biggrin.gif  There are other pros and cons in the guide.

I am still using my DIY dry box with the thirsty hippo. I think I can stretch the usage of the thirsty hippo to at least 3-4 months (and I'm opening my box almost everyday). In terms of cost, DIY dry box is cheaper but in the long run (over many years), the dry box is a better alternative.

Here's my calculation on the cost:

My DIY container : RM25
Thirsty Hippo x1 : RM16 (price in Sibu, can last for say 3 months)
- that makes it RM16 x 4 = RM64 per year

Use thirsty hippo for 5 years = RM64 x 5 = RM 320

Total cost after 5 years = RM320 + container = RM345

That's about the same price as a small dry box (dry box power consumption is about 3-5w, so not much electricity overhead). However, if your dry box failed, then have to send in for warranty or pay for the repair if no warranty.

By 5 years, I'd probably buy a new DSLR, maybe Sony alpha 2550!!!  rclxm9.gif

So for me, I'll stick to my DIY dry box for the moment.  wink.gif
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is the container u bought air tight??
i jus bought a hygrometer and test on my non air tight container and it display 56++% when the container is open and the lowest it go when the container is close is 50&%!! is it ok??
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QUOTE(ivan5805 @ May 29 2010, 12:13 AM)
is the container u bought air tight??
i jus bought a hygrometer and test on my non air tight container and it display 56++% when the container is open and the lowest it go when the container is close is 50&%!! is it ok??
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try not to open during rainy day, and keep the container in dry places. those drier/silica gels are not 100% proven reliability. use at own risk.
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QUOTE(ieR @ May 29 2010, 01:15 AM)
try not to open during rainy day, and keep the container in dry places. those drier/silica gels are not 100% proven reliability. use at own risk.
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i'm using thirsty hipo!! actually if use air tight container got diffrent?? i open the box 1 tym per week oni sad.gif
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QUOTE(ivan5805 @ May 29 2010, 12:13 AM)
is the container u bought air tight??
i jus bought a hygrometer and test on my non air tight container and it display 56++% when the container is open and the lowest it go when the container is close is 50&%!! is it ok??
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shud b ok as long the humidity 45-50%...

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QUOTE(ivan5805 @ May 29 2010, 12:13 AM)
is the container u bought air tight??
i jus bought a hygrometer and test on my non air tight container and it display 56++% when the container is open and the lowest it go when the container is close is 50&%!! is it ok??
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I think so. It is a container used to store dry food stuff.

If you're concerned with your equipment, it is better to get a dry box.

The DIY dry box won't keep the humidity at a constant level. For me, I'm not too concern about higher humidity in the DIY dry box as it is still lower than normal humidity. I'm just afraid of my equipment getting too dry if I leave the container unopened for some time.

On average, I use my camera every 2-3 days but so far, I have not left my container unopened for more than 3-4 days.

Oh, I just found out that the "Thirsty Hippo" is only RM6 in Sibu!!! rclxms.gif I'm still using my first "Thirsty Hippo" for the past 5 months and it is only just over1/2 full. I think I can stretch it to 6-7 months!!! biggrin.gif

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thanks for ur info dude!!
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Where to get a decent priced dry box ? Shashinki seems to be overpricing... any ideas ? Penang or Kay El is fine.
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Im not trust the Thirsty Hippo.. i have experienced use it 2 years ago and use for 2 times only, the water inside the hippo is unrealistic water level.. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif after that i changed to blue silica gel.. even after i bought the dry box, i still use this silica until now.. i put inside my dry box and my camera bag. i can reuse the silica by 'goreng' using kuali..

for question abt 'is there a safe way to store a camera in your car all the time'.. i think the safe way is by put your camera in a chrome plastic bag (if u buy HDD/3D card, they use this plastic to protect the item). i dont know how to explain this plastic, hope someone can explain better than me..

for those looking for blue silica gel, u can find in lelong. http://www.lelong.com.my/blue-silica-gel-drying-agent-dehumidifier-dry-box-61947265-2010-06-Sale-P.htm
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nice thread, if only i have a DSLR to take care.. lol'ed
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silica gel is much more realiable then thristy hippo, thristy hippo turns into water after a period of time, imagine this, a container of water in ur dry container/box/tupperware... -______________-
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QUOTE(afizudin @ Jun 15 2010, 11:45 AM)
Im not  trust the Thirsty Hippo.. i have experienced use it 2 years ago and use for 2 times only, the water inside the hippo is unrealistic water level.. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  after that i changed to blue silica gel.. even after i bought the dry box, i still use this silica until now.. i put inside my dry box and my camera bag. i can reuse the silica by 'goreng' using kuali..

for question abt 'is there a safe way to store a camera in your car all the time'.. i think the safe way is by put your camera in a chrome plastic bag (if u buy HDD/3D card, they use this plastic to protect the item). i dont know how to explain this plastic, hope someone can explain better than me..

for those looking for blue silica gel, u can find in lelong. http://www.lelong.com.my/blue-silica-gel-drying-agent-dehumidifier-dry-box-61947265-2010-06-Sale-P.htm
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QUOTE(afizudin @ Jun 15 2010, 10:45 AM)
Im not  trust the Thirsty Hippo.. i have experienced use it 2 years ago and use for 2 times only, the water inside the hippo is unrealistic water level.. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  after that i changed to blue silica gel.. even after i bought the dry box, i still use this silica until now.. i put inside my dry box and my camera bag. i can reuse the silica by 'goreng' using kuali..

for question abt 'is there a safe way to store a camera in your car all the time'.. i think the safe way is by put your camera in a chrome plastic bag (if u buy HDD/3D card, they use this plastic to protect the item). i dont know how to explain this plastic, hope someone can explain better than me..

for those looking for blue silica gel, u can find in lelong. http://www.lelong.com.my/blue-silica-gel-drying-agent-dehumidifier-dry-box-61947265-2010-06-Sale-P.htm
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when u say goreng means u open the package and goreng the small silica gel in the kuali?but i dun understand why you still need a silica gel if u have dry box!


Added on June 25, 2010, 2:27 pmhow can i know whether the camera have fungus?i'm buying a second hand DSLR soon need a decent guide to check on the camera to make sure everything is good...

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QUOTE(senyii @ Jun 25 2010, 02:21 PM)
when u say goreng means u open the package and goreng the small silica gel in the kuali?but i dun understand why you still need a silica gel if u have dry box!


Added on June 25, 2010, 2:27 pmhow can i know whether the camera have fungus?i'm buying a second hand DSLR soon need a decent guide to check on the camera to make sure everything is good...
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actually i just want to store my silica gel inside dry box, not for protection purpose.. however it can double protection my dslr and lens.. the silica gel i bought come without package, i DIY the small package for my self.

normally fungus difficult to grows on body dslr.. if your worry abt fungus on dslr body, what u have to do is.. test shot using aperture priority at least f/16 and point to the clear sky on the day light.. check the img and find the spider web like.. if u only found the black dot, this is dust not fungus..
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Hey, understanding from this thread, does that mean its advisable to keep those small packets of silica gel in our camera bags if I store my camera all the time in my bag? No money for a drybox yet...Where can i buy the silica gel? =(
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QUOTE(superb88 @ Jun 29 2010, 11:20 AM)
Hey, understanding from this thread, does that mean its advisable to keep those small packets of silica gel in our camera bags if I store my camera all the time in my bag? No money for a drybox yet...Where can i buy the silica gel?  =(
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Yeah, those silica gels will absorb moisture from your bag. You can get some at Foto-Shangrila. RM5 for a pack if I remembered correctly. smile.gif
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superb88: it is Not recommend to store in bag even with silica gels. silica gel works on a small radius area. during raining days, Relative Humid can reach up to 90%(or more, coz my RHread max out at 90%lol) whole room(ur house room, even u didnt open ur window!) and bags (especially leather) are breeding ground for fungus!
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I created some kind of DIY dry box as in the pics. I put in silica gels inside and the case is not air tight, so i guess it wont be too dry. I have two of the gels, where each one last for about a week. Need to 'recharge' them once a month.

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QUOTE(ReeNz @ Aug 3 2010, 12:29 PM)
I created some kind of DIY dry box as in the pics. I put in silica gels inside and the case is not air tight, so i guess it wont be too dry. I have two of the gels, where each one last for about a week. Need to 'recharge' them once a month.

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QUOTE(ReeNz @ Aug 6 2010, 10:06 PM)
bought them from amazon..
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Nice. Thirsty Hippo also quite good. I'm still using my first thirsty hippo. Now already 6 months. Almost full but I think can stretch until 7 months. For RM6 every 6 months is excellent! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ReeNz @ Aug 3 2010, 12:29 PM)
I created some kind of DIY dry box as in the pics. I put in silica gels inside and the case is not air tight, so i guess it wont be too dry. I have two of the gels, where each one last for about a week. Need to 'recharge' them once a month.
wanna ask... how to "recharge" silica gel?? coz now i using thirsty hypoo... if at my hometown, thirsty hypoo is ok coz can last 3-4 months... but at my current place, less than 2 months water level already max... so quite pain for me actually...
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This is an informative guide, been thinking about how to store my lenses and slr, so DIY dry box is the way to go now...until such a time when i really need a real dry box.

Luckily i have a humidity reader, so at least can keep track of the humidity level in the box. What is the recommended humidity level anyway?
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sifus,
anyone know will condition too dry may not suitable too as that there are a substantial amount of lubricants in both body and lens. If lubricants dried up, it will cause problem on parts movement hmm.gif blush.gif
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QUOTE(beycont @ Aug 23 2010, 01:02 PM)
This is an informative guide, been thinking about how to store my lenses and slr, so DIY dry box is the way to go now...until such a time when i really need a real dry box.

Luckily i have a humidity reader, so at least can keep track of the humidity level in the box. What is the recommended humidity level anyway?
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where did u get the humidity reader?i wunna try this DIY box too!
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how often do we need to clean the camera and lens ?
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Hi I am new here. I just bought my Nikon D5000 a few weeks back and am thinking of getting a dry cab. I cannot decide between an Aipo 38 EX or an Octopus dry cab. Prices are similar and both are fully digital except that Octopus has lifetime warranty.

However I cant find much info on the Octopus Cab nor any reviews !! Any sifu out there who has used Octopus before ? Is there a website for Octopus products ? I cant locate it .....

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Myth busted! I put my full-of-water thirsty hippo on it's side for 1 week and there was no leakage whatsoever!!! Will post up pictures and some more info regarding the thirsty hippo later on. smile.gif

QUOTE(beycont @ Aug 23 2010, 01:02 PM)
This is an informative guide, been thinking about how to store my lenses and slr, so DIY dry box is the way to go now...until such a time when i really need a real dry box.

Luckily i have a humidity reader, so at least can keep track of the humidity level in the box. What is the recommended humidity level anyway?
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40-45%

QUOTE(Wkchan1979 @ Aug 23 2010, 03:24 PM)
sifus,
anyone know will condition too dry may not suitable too as that there are a substantial amount of lubricants in both body and lens. If lubricants dried up, it will cause problem on parts movement  hmm.gif  blush.gif
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That's why for storage, recommended to store at 40-45%. See guide for further info. wink.gif

QUOTE(makaveli @ Sep 1 2010, 08:06 AM)
how often do we need to clean the camera and lens ?
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Dunno. I never cleaned my DSLR since I bought it in Jan 2010!!! whistling.gif (Note that I'm a super noob in DSLR too!)

QUOTE(rkkyong @ Sep 3 2010, 12:31 PM)
Hi I am new here. I just bought my Nikon D5000 a few weeks back and am thinking of getting a dry cab. I cannot decide between an Aipo 38 EX or an Octopus dry cab.  Prices are similar and both are fully digital except that Octopus has lifetime warranty.

However I cant find much info on the Octopus Cab nor any reviews !! Any sifu out there who has used Octopus before ? Is there a website for Octopus products ? I cant locate it .....

TQ  smile.gif
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Have to wait for any sifus to answer this. For me, I'd probably go for the lifetime warranty if both build quality is the same.

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Myth busted! I put my full-of-water thirsty hippo on it's side for 1 week and there was no leakage whatsoever!!! Will post up pictures and some more info regarding the thirsty hippo later on.  smile.gif
40-45%
That's why for storage, recommended to store at 40-45%. See guide for further info. wink.gif
Dunno. I never cleaned my DSLR since I bought it in Jan 2010!!!  whistling.gif (Note that I'm a super noob in DSLR too!)
Have to wait for any sifus to answer this. For me, I'd probably go for the lifetime warranty if both build quality is the same.
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Actually don't find many sellers for octopus. Mostly aipo. That is why I m hesitant even though octopus offers lifetime warranty

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QUOTE(rkkyong @ Sep 5 2010, 10:55 PM)
Actually don't find many sellers for octopus. Mostly aipo. That is why I m hesitant even though octopus offers lifetime warranty
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Better read the fine print .... some lifetime warranty only covers the cost of labour and the cost of parts etc are to be borne by u sad.gif



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Hi, I just bought NEX3D few days ago, do I need to keep it like those DSLR's as well? How should I start cause I am totally new to this...
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QUOTE(ReeNz @ Aug 3 2010, 12:29 PM)
I created some kind of DIY dry box as in the pics. I put in silica gels inside and the case is not air tight, so i guess it wont be too dry. I have two of the gels, where each one last for about a week. Need to 'recharge' them once a month.

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nice DIY box!
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QUOTE(shohoku_14 @ Aug 22 2010, 12:17 PM)
wanna ask... how to "recharge" silica gel?? coz now i using thirsty hypoo... if at my hometown, thirsty hypoo is ok coz can last 3-4 months... but at my current place, less than 2 months water level already max... so quite pain for me actually...
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Put in oven for 3 hours at 300F smile.gif

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QUOTE(ReeNz @ Aug 3 2010, 12:29 PM)
I created some kind of DIY dry box as in the pics. I put in silica gels inside and the case is not air tight, so i guess it wont be too dry. I have two of the gels, where each one last for about a week. Need to 'recharge' them once a month.

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wow! loving it man!
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octopus lifetime warranty covers the same way of lifetime warranty of PC memory, its Not your Lifetime, but that product Lifetime, if the product stop, and a new come to replace, that product just lost its lifetime warranty.

also, duely note that, the lifetime warranty provides if u carry the drybox back to the shop... its not like dell where they send agent to collect from you smile.gif

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if i put hippo in box,
need to open the box every 2-3day?


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hi, would like to know if it's ok to keep my battery & charger in the dry cabinet with my dslr? makes it easier to have everything at one place, but am not sure if the lower humidity will affect the battery somehow?
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QUOTE(gressen @ Oct 26 2010, 02:00 AM)
hi, would like to know if it's ok to keep my battery & charger in the dry cabinet with my dslr? makes it easier to have everything at one place, but am not sure if the lower humidity will affect the battery somehow?
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Should be no problem I guess. I also do the same biggrin.gif

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what should i do if some water go into my lens..?
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what should i do if some water go into my lens..?
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Sunning your lens for about 10-15 minutes to warm it up. Or perhaps send it to service center wink.gif
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actually it already dried..
now the AF sometime can't work.
and i now at US..
and i don't think the warranty is international warranty...
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actually it already dried..
now the AF sometime can't work.
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hi, is it ok if im use this storage box?

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lens got fungus....
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QUOTE(makoshark @ Nov 19 2010, 01:59 PM)
hi, is it ok if im use this storage box?

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always open
in-out, costly for keep changing the dehumidifier every month or so.

short term storage, 2-3 month open once, okay....

long term 1 year storage, big NO NO.


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QUOTE(makoshark @ Nov 19 2010, 01:59 PM)
hi, is it ok if im use this storage box?

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By the way what's the correct procedures to follow if someone keeps their dlsr + lens + silica + thirsty hippo in a vacuum pack container... I've heard stories about the thirsty hippo sucking the air out of all rubber made material making it crack or unusable, logically correctly but it's going to take sometime for it to do so... and someone told me to place a wet sponge together with it just to balance out the humidity inside the container. Some fella told me not to airtight the container just open a bit, really don't know which one to follow. Maybe some practitioner of this arcane art might share a bit or two...
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[quote=ieR,Nov 19 2010, 08:47 PM]
always open
in-out, costly for keep changing the dehumidifier every month or so.

short term storage, 2-3 month open once, okay....

long term 1 year storage, big NO NO.

Open once every 2-3 month? I tot once a week
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QUOTE(jagged @ Nov 20 2010, 12:25 AM)
By the way what's the correct procedures to follow if someone keeps their dlsr  + lens + silica + thirsty hippo in a vacuum pack container... I've heard stories about the thirsty hippo sucking the air out of all rubber made  material making it crack or unusable, logically correctly but it's going to take sometime for it to do so... and someone told me to place a wet sponge together with it just to balance out the humidity inside the container. Some fella told me not to airtight the container just open a bit, really don't know which one to follow. Maybe some practitioner of this arcane art might share a bit or two...
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That's why need to open the box regularly. There's no "data" to suggest how frequent you should open it. Some open every week. For me, I open every 3-4 days.

My DIY dry box is airtight and when I close it, I close it tightly.

Weird to hear that you need to put a wet sponge together inside. Really defeats the purpose, doesn't it? hmm.gif

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Open once every 2-3 month? I tot once a week
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i just got myself a octopus dry box. But i have been occur some problem of setting. Not matter how i set the % to 45 - 47~~ it will automatic jump back to around 50 - 55~~ is there any problem?? is yes how can i solve it?
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tashiha, usually when new brought drybox needs at least 2 days to stabilized. also, check if ur drybox is directly in front of the airconditioning, and leave "Space" behind the drybox for air circulation for 'bringing away moisture' from the 'dehumid unit'

if this go on for a week, consult ur dealer.

jagged, makoshark, like kmarc said, there is no DATA for it. but, recently, i DID heard a lot of that issue, it seem today, camera are affordable and people buy and becomes a Passive shooter (camera stored for 2-3 weeks to months). and yea, base on my theory (my opinion, some might differ) yea, leaving it too long will 'suck dry' the plastic.

leaving a wet sponge is big No. if ur thristy hippo already filled up, u are adding More moist inside, which favor spore to grow.

opening it 2-3 days is Good. but if u do not have the time, then (read #)

leaving it open or not tightly close is also another issue, too much moist in rainy day. and u might forgotten ur silica might filled up quickly then u thinks.(read#)

# read this: from one of my experienced friend (using this technique for more then a year) is to POP several small needle hole on the container (dont use tupperware, ur mum will kill u) so it can breathe... but downside, u have to check ur silica every week, to see if it filled up with moist and change(or cook it) when necessary.

anyhow, in all other method u can DIY, get a drybox. there is small drybox enough for a camera body and 4 lens and a flash, only around rm300. i think its the 12-15L model

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QUOTE(ieR @ Nov 25 2010, 12:34 PM)
tashiha, usually when new brought drybox needs at least 2 days to stabilized. also, check if ur drybox is directly in front of the airconditioning, and leave "Space" behind the drybox for air circulation for 'bringing away moisture' from the 'dehumid unit'

if this go on for a week, consult ur dealer.

jagged, makoshark, like kmarc said, there is no DATA for it. but, recently, i DID heard a lot of that issue, it seem today, camera are affordable and people buy and becomes a Passive shooter (camera stored for 2-3 weeks to months). and yea, base on my theory (my opinion, some might differ) yea, leaving it too long will 'suck dry' the plastic.

leaving a wet sponge is big No. if ur thristy hippo already filled up, u are adding More moist inside, which favor spore to grow.

opening it 2-3 days is Good. but if u do not have the time, then (read #)

leaving it open or not tightly close is also another issue, too much moist in rainy day. and u might forgotten ur silica might filled up quickly then u thinks.(read#)

# read this: from one of my experienced friend (using this technique for more then a year) is to POP several small needle hole on the container (dont use tupperware, ur mum will kill u) so it can breathe... but downside, u have to check ur silica every week, to see if it filled up with moist and change(or cook it) when necessary.

anyhow, in all other method u can DIY, get a drybox. there is small drybox enough for a camera body and 4 lens and a flash, only around rm300. i think its the 12-15L model
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act i got my octopus dry box as a gift~~ i have been using for few weeks but seems still ok~~ coz almost everyday are having shooting~~i didn't use any DIY dry box at the moment anyway thx for you info i will try it again c how it goes~~
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Wanna ask a noob question.

For storage purposes, can I just leave the lens attached to the body all the time?

I will only use my camera perhaps every weekend to snap 5-10 shots.
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its better leaving it attach, or less detach it. because each time u detach, u risk of having dust going inside the camera or lens. smile.gif
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If I may ask, is there any bag cleaning shop in KL?

Wanted to wash my crumpler but the interior material could not be soak.
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any dobi provide "dry cleaning" service. smile.gif
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i have maKe my own DIY box with silica gel inside..Now i want to know is it alright to store my whole camera body attached with lens and also its strap into the box?i worried the rubber in the body and strap will degrade!
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the silica will filled up before ur rubber is dry up. so its safe.
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the silica will filled up before ur rubber is dry up. so its safe.
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Thirsty hippo also good. tongue.gif

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Thirsty hippo also good. tongue.gif
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But for safety purpose.. last time I put both thirsty hippo and silica gels together in the box..

Double protection, chances for fungus growth = 0.000001% rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Jurlique @ Dec 17 2010, 11:30 AM)
But for safety purpose.. last time I put both thirsty hippo and silica gels together in the box..

Double protection, chances for fungus growth = 0.000001%  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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wow put 2??i only put silica gel now almost 2mth liow the silica gel still haven change color!
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FYI some silica dont change color.

fungus grow only in humid and no air circulation places.

so fungus do not grow if u put ur lens on the table with ceiling fan turned on. problem is, yr lens will be covered with dust. so to put in closed area, less dust, but risking fungus.

if u use ur lens everyday, fungus dont really grow, those people who tell u fungus very tough, the toughest fungus type i know is called mushroom, and they dont grow in lens.
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Erm, I read somewhere about keeping lenses and body separated is better, and then assembling only when needed? I also heard that keeping filter on for long time is not good. Advice please.
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QUOTE(xKeneshirox @ Dec 21 2010, 11:05 AM)
Erm, I read somewhere about keeping lenses and body separated is better, and then assembling only when needed? I also heard that keeping filter on for long time is not good. Advice please.
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I leave my lens attached all the time to my body.
This is to reduce dust entering the sensor everytime you attach and dettach lenses.
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keneshiro: everyone has diff opinion of rubber and glass in drybox. rubber will dry up, and glass will grow fungus if not dry enough. its a very subjective debate. i have friends who do not have drybox, but leave their camera on the table or bed (or dinner table -___-)

filter, unless its aluminum frame filter, yes, it will BIND(or BOND) with the aluminium thread on the lens. some are brass frame so it wont bind with the aluminium threads.
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I wonder how did the owners of a camera shop stores their DSLRs?

I just saw them store behind their storeroom. Dont they scare of fungus?
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fungus grows if its store over 3-4 months, or the store is really humid. but most store, are dry, and inside shopping center, although its 'cold' in fact its really really 'dry'. people who works in shopping center u notice they have dry skin.
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Erm, i dont have a dry box. Just a dslr bag. Can it double as both?
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not advisable.... but drybox is not everything la... if u take ur camera out and shoot at least one every week, should be fine.
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Hi all,

Not sure if this is the correct thread. I saw the discussion about dry cabinet here, so just try my luck to see if anyone facing the same issue as mine.

I've been using the fully digital dry cabinet for more than a year, it has been ok until yesterday the %RH shot up to 50-51 and remains there. The cabinet was set to 45% since the day I bought it and usually the reading was around 44-45%. I tried power off the unit, and on it back after a few minutes. It reads 60% when I initially turned on, and it drop to 50-51% and remains there again although the setting still in 45%.

I open the box to check the rubber seal to see if there is any leak and I couldn't see if there is any. However when i close the box, it reads 70% which is normal. After awhile the reading drops to 58-59%. The problem is after a few hours, it still reading 58-59% RH.

The drying indicator light doesn't turn off anymore as it unable to reach the desired RH. sad.gif

Not sure what problem with it. Anyone with similar experience?
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Hi Guys, I'm using a D90, recently i found out inside my viewfinder there's a dot of dust. how do i clean it off, just using a blower? if i do that will that bit of dust been runnning off to another part?
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Hi Guys, I'm using a D90, recently i found out inside my viewfinder there's a dot of dust. how do i clean it off, just using a blower?  if i do that will that bit of dust been runnning off to another part?
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u mean inside and behind the outside of the viewfinder? if it just reside outside, just use lenspen and blower
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QUOTE(brutalsoul @ Dec 27 2010, 12:16 PM)
u mean inside and behind the outside of the viewfinder? if it just reside outside, just use lenspen and blower
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erm... how to said, u can see the dust through viewfinder, but not on live view or it will appear in the picture.

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dust particle in viewfinder will not effect the image quality....if the dust particle on ur image sensor or inside/outside the lens, u ll see it thru liveview or image been shot....correct me if im wrong
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yup yup.. it will not effect the image, just that sometimes when u saw it, is kind of eye sore, annoying
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QUOTE(littleway @ Dec 27 2010, 01:34 AM)
Hi all,

Not sure if this is the correct thread. I saw the discussion about dry cabinet here, so just try my luck to see if anyone facing the same issue as mine.

I've been using the fully digital dry cabinet for more than a year, it has been ok until yesterday the %RH shot up to 50-51 and remains there. The cabinet was set to 45% since the day I bought it and usually the reading was around 44-45%. I tried power off the unit, and on it back after a few minutes. It reads 60% when I initially turned on, and it drop to 50-51% and remains there again although the setting still in 45%.

I open the box to check the rubber seal to see if there is any leak and I couldn't see if there is any. However when i close the box, it reads 70% which is normal. After awhile the reading drops to 58-59%. The problem is after a few hours, it still reading 58-59% RH.

The drying indicator light doesn't turn off anymore as it unable to reach the desired RH. sad.gif

Not sure what problem with it. Anyone with similar experience?
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which brand is ur drybox? most possible is, put ur drybox out in the sun for 30min. the sponge might be overfilled with water that the drying unit cant push more water 'out' hence keeping ur box wet(high in humid)

remember to leave some space behind the drybox, it need a little air circulation behind the box to bring away excessive water/moisture
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which brand is ur drybox? most possible is, put ur drybox out in the sun for 30min. the sponge might be overfilled with water that the drying unit cant push more water 'out' hence keeping ur box wet(high in humid)

remember to leave some space behind the drybox, it need a little air circulation behind the box to bring away excessive water/moisture
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Yup, there is at least 2inch spaces from the wall, and it was fine for whole year until recently.

Anyway, I guess I've temporarily fix it. What I did was, open up the drying unit, and found out that the sink in the drying unit was filled up with water. Using sponge and cotton buds to soak up the water, and turn it on again. Within an hour, it drops from 70 to 45. Not sure how long it would last before the sink was filled up again. I hope it could stand up to a year before I need to repeat the steps above again.

I guess this drybox requires regular service and maintenance as well.. tongue.gif
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if DIY drybox how? cos recently i measure using hygrometer, showing 55-60%RH...im using a new thirsty hyppo also same...
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littleway: yeap, thats the water that causes the RH cant drop, if u have enough space behind (mine is 5 inch from wall) the water will be erm 'dry away' from the air circulation from the room. the more u open, the more moist u bring into the drybox, and the drying unit will suck out more water to stuck at the sponge and without proper spacing from the back, the sponge water cant escape.

bruntalsoul: time to change ur thristy hippo? those thristy hippo are NOT consistent, so i have no comment about it.
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Yup, better invest in a proper drybox. It will not cost much, for approx RM300 you will worry-free night dreams everyday.
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plan to buy a real drybox after CNY...now very poor...btw, how large is the capacity for 1body+grip+50mm+18-135+(70-300 in future / 17-50) + speedlight?


Added on December 30, 2010, 1:45 pmieR : my hyppo is new...life span not even 2 weeks...didnt see any water accumulate inside the hyppo anyway

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hi
first of all.. happy 2011! =)
i have a nikon d3000 and i have a problem with it.. fungus growth in the kit lens as well as in one of the mirrors in the viewfinder =(
are there still ways to possibly save it or the costs are too high that it's better to get a new one? please help!

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are u sure its fungus or just dust? if its underwarranty, u can send it to nikon center for cleaning service smile.gif
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yeah i'm very sure it's fungus. and the unlucky things is that it happened AFTER the warranty expired. sighh
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QUOTE(brutalsoul @ Dec 30 2010, 10:03 AM)
plan to buy a real drybox after CNY...now very poor...btw, how large is the capacity for 1body+grip+50mm+18-135+(70-300 in future / 17-50) + speedlight?


Added on December 30, 2010, 1:45 pmieR : my hyppo is new...life span not even 2 weeks...didnt see any water accumulate inside the hyppo anyway
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well thristy hippo has no industrial statement how much "moist" it will suck up. so its inconsistent. its not like super moist sucker that till 20%RH.... or constant 40%RH.... it just suck as much as long as it can. how strong? no idea. that why i no comment. to me, investing in drybox is very worry-free smile.gif and i even plan to get a 2nd drybox as my first is filling up. and use the 1st as daily open drybox, and other as long storage drybox... smile.gif


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yeah i'm very sure it's fungus. and the unlucky things is that it happened AFTER the warranty expired. sighh
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ahh,, u can try walk up to nikon center and ask for a quote, sometimes, u are lucky, they will give a FOC service! but dont put ur hope too high. or u can go to nikon thread ask around where usually they send to 3rd party people to service?

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if is just dust within the internal of my view finder, do Nikon center charge for cleaning up it ?
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QUOTE(vkashin @ Dec 31 2010, 10:29 AM)
hi
first of all.. happy 2011! =)
i have a nikon d3000 and i have a problem with it.. fungus growth in the kit lens as well as in one of the mirrors in the viewfinder =(
are there still ways to possibly save it or the costs are too high that it's better to get a new one? please help!
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for the kit lens i think is better to buy a new one. For the D3K mirrors u can ask nikon to clean it for u i think is around rm50, however if u same situation with me the fungus grow in the prism and the viewfinder, then u need to change the prism and the viewfinder both cost RM100 above. Just invest in a drybox, it will save u alot of time and hassle. Learn the hard way
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A proper dry box only costs around RM220. It is a good investment.
If really no budget, then DIY your own dry box la.
In this way, you will be worry-free of fungus.
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ok thanks guys. i've sent it to a nearby camera shop, they will help me send to nikon service centre at KL and get me a quote.. hopefully it wouldnt be too much la.
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Could I keep my DSLR in the camera bag when not in use? And could I wrapped a piece of clothes on it? Because I want to make further protection if the camera knocks or drops.
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not recommend if ur place rains a lot lately and u plan to store the bag for a period of time.

yes u can warp cloth and sponge and bubble rap.... nothing wrong, just be more careful lor, dont careless... bag drop rate are very low.
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Could I keep my DSLR in the camera bag when not in use? And could I wrapped a piece of clothes on it? Because I want to make further protection if the camera knocks or drops.
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Depending how long you intended to keep it in the bag. If you stay in condo then it is not recommended. Fungus growth rate is higher. lol
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About the cleaning, is that possible that I just get a lenspen? Will it do the same job as getting a microfiber cloth? I'm going to get a UV filter as protection anyway.
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About the cleaning, is that possible that I just get a lenspen? Will it do the same job as getting a microfiber cloth? I'm going to get a UV filter as protection anyway.
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But just make sure the lenspen is original.

There are too many fake lenspen in the market nowadays just like fake filters.
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See my RM30 DIY Dry Box =P

http://bit.ly/g5C4vA
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QUOTE(sur3wyn @ Jan 14 2011, 07:15 PM)
See my RM30 DIY Dry Box =P

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Haha... what's your waterproof watch and SDcard doing inside the box!!! laugh.gif
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DIY a very small drybox (5.5L) with silica gel. After 6 hours, the humidity level drop to 42-45, as recorded by the digital hygrometer. I went outstation for 4 days and it dropped to 38. Will 38 be too dry??

I found that the silica gel (blue type) has some funny smell when I open the box. I read that it is toxic (carcinogenic). Thinking of buying 'orange turn dark green' type of silica. Where can I buy this?
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Haha... what's your waterproof watch and SDcard doing inside the box!!!  laugh.gif
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chuck everything inside as storage from dust also.. hehe laugh.gif
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chuck everything inside as storage from dust also.. hehe  laugh.gif
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most welcome biggrin.gif

was thinking to modify further - so we can make do long term without the 'hippo'... let's wait and see what i can come out with brows.gif
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Great thread...
Will follow all of ur suggestion...
Thx bro...
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QUOTE(sur3wyn @ Jan 14 2011, 07:15 PM)
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Nice dude.. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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how to check whether the lens is oily or not ?

my friends touched the lens's glass.

i just use those cloth that i used to clean my glasses to clean it.

and i keep my new dslr in a safe with hippo. is it ok to do so?

the safe is in air-con room.

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how to check whether the lens is oily or not ?

my friends touched the lens's glass.

i just use those clothes that i used to clean my glasses to clean it.

and i keep my new dslr in a safe with hippo. is it ok to do so?

the safe is in air-con room.


check lens by visual. use a torch light to shine on the lens or face against the light... is like spectacles glasses loh.. tongue.gif
I use microfiber cloth.. or my spectacles cloth.. just careful no particles on the cloth after get scratches shakehead.gif

i'm presuming your safe is air-tight? if yes.. then better open up everyday to let some air circulate.. note if it's too dry you will damage your rubbers (grip, lens dials).. best to get a hygrometer... or even better.. follow my DIY Drybox thumbup.gif

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hehe.. thanks!
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check lens by visual. use a torch light to shine on the lens or face against the light... is like spectacles glasses loh..  tongue.gif
I use microfiber cloth.. or my spectacles cloth.. just careful no particles on the cloth after get scratches  shakehead.gif

i'm presuming your safe is air-tight? if yes.. then better open up everyday to let some air circulate.. note if it's too dry you will damage your rubbers (grip, lens dials).. best to get a hygrometer... or even better.. follow my DIY Drybox  thumbup.gif
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do i need to detach the lens to check whether the lens is oily or not ?
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do i need to detach the lens to check whether the lens is oily or not ?
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your rear should not need any cleaning if you keep it mounted to your camera most of the time... so it's only likely that your front is oily or dirty...

it's best if you have no idea what you're doing.. go to a camera shop and ask them for help... nod.gif
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wiping it with cloth its okay. the original optic coating do not scratch that easily. but please get a filter to protect your optics. the filter can range from cheap ones... where u can replace it when it is badly scratched, or the expensive ones, where is high resistant to scratch. just wipe the filter, no need scare scratch ur optics smile.gif

highly recommended are Hoya HD, B+W and Zeiss filter. they are high scratch resistant.
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See my RM30 DIY Dry Box =P

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highly recommended are Hoya HD, B+W and Zeiss filter. they are high scratch resistant.
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Yup, I would advise ppl to buy high quality filters as well.

I know it is expensive around RM150 to RM250 but it is worth it and do not degrade picture quality as the china made or cheapo ones.
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QUOTE(Jurlique @ Feb 9 2011, 10:30 AM)
Yup, I would advise ppl to buy high quality filters as well.

I know it is expensive around RM150 to RM250 but it is worth it and do not degrade picture quality as the china made or cheapo ones.
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the 150-200 might be fakes one ~.~
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Hey guys,

I am new to this photography(DSLR) so wanna ask ur advice a bit....
I'm currently staying in a university hostel and will go back almost every week....
Due to my frequent travelling back and forth, I don't think its practical to buy a dry box for 2 reasons...

1) Keeping it in home is useless coz majority of time my camera will be in hostel
2) Keeping it in hostel is impossible due to the fact that my room is already cramped

So, I would like to know what other options are available in terms of storing my DSLR....
Currently I just keep them in my Crumpler bag inside my cupboard.
Planning to buy some silica gel to put inside the bag.

Thanks.....
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nice.. but is it really water proof..?
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what you mean by waterproof? unsure.gif

the box i use does seem air-tight, but im not sure... unless i close it up and dump it in water.. but it isn't necessary required to be waterproof or air-tight for it's main function [keeping things dry inside] thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(ChickenWing24 @ Feb 10 2011, 01:27 PM)
Hey guys,

I am new to this photography(DSLR) so wanna ask ur advice a bit....
I'm currently staying in a university hostel and will go back almost every week....
Due to my frequent travelling back and forth, I don't think its practical to buy a dry box for 2 reasons...

1) Keeping it in home is useless coz majority of time my camera will be in hostel
2) Keeping it in hostel is impossible due to the fact that my room is already cramped

So, I would like to know what other options are available in terms of storing my DSLR....
Currently I just keep them in my Crumpler bag inside my cupboard.
Planning to buy some silica gel to put inside the bag.

Thanks.....
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from what i've read it's ok to keep in your bag or cupboard or where-ever.. just not over long periods of time.. if you take out your DSLR often enough it will be ok..

but you can always do a DIY dry box like mine and take it around with you.. compact and portable thumbup.gif

link >> http://bit.ly/g5C4vA

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actually i just want to store my silica gel inside dry box, not for protection purpose.. however it can double protection my dslr and lens.. the silica gel i bought come without package, i DIY the small package for my self.

normally fungus difficult to grows on body dslr.. if your worry abt fungus on dslr body, what u have to do is.. test shot using aperture priority at least f/16 and point to the clear sky on the day light.. check the img and find the spider web like.. if u only found the black dot, this is dust not fungus..
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hi yesterday i take my d7k and point to the sky and i see a white circle on viewfinder, quicklly take off lens, check it and didnt see anything like fungus there, take my d7k see through viewfinder and i see the white circle again..wht th hell is that?is it fungus or something like dust?
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woww, i shud DIY my own dry box very soon... tongue.gif

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hi yesterday i take my d7k and point to the sky and i see a white circle on viewfinder, quicklly take off lens, check it and didnt see anything like fungus there, take my d7k see through viewfinder and i see the white circle again..wht th hell is that?is it fungus or something like dust?
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maybe its not on your lens.. take out the lens and check your mirror/viewfinder area.. could be just a spec of dust; can use blower thumbup.gif
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Noob question, is there any way to remove scratches from the screen?

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depend how deep the scratch, some claim some polish will work, but i never did that. i uses glass protector. smile.gif
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don't ever change lens in dusty area..or else ur sensor will full of dust particles..i tried this before...
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noob Q. do you guys keep the caps on the lenses and bodies when put them in the drybox?

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keep the cap and filter ON, by opening and putting them back will give chance for dust to get it. and its okay to leave the lens mounted when store in drybox.

avoid changing lens on the beach too, sand particle in the air (or salt particle from the sea vapour under hot sun, wind blow, reason why ur hair is so salty and dry) is dangerous and very bad of the internal of the camera.
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QUOTE(ieR @ Mar 12 2011, 09:54 AM)
keep the cap and filter ON, by opening and putting them back will give chance for dust to get it. and its okay to leave the lens mounted when store in drybox.

avoid changing lens on the beach too, sand particle in the air (or salt particle from the sea vapour under hot sun, wind blow, reason why ur hair is so salty and dry) is dangerous and very bad of the internal of the camera.
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thanks for the tips. then i should change lens inside a closed bag as much as possible when on the beach correct? any good tip on that? thanks
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my dslr keep showing lense error quite a tyme..is it nothing to do how i manage my equipment..or is it my lense already broke? sorry noob q there huu..
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it could be just some minor connection error. check ur lens chip contact, if its dirty, rub it with the blur eraser (for pen) and try again, it could be just minor oxidation on the lens chip contact. smile.gif
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i don't know whether this is the correct thread or not.

how can we make a bacteria inside the lens dissapear? should go to shop or we can do it ourself?

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that's fungus. usually we send to shop, because they have the tools to open and clean it. do it ASAP, the fungus will grow and spread. unless u know how to service a lens, then u can do it urself.

if its an USD/SSM/HSM/SWM/MMMMMM lens, better send it back to original manufacturer for service.
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my drybox keep going down at night and going up daytime. normal?
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down at night? analog or digital? could that u set the display to degree celcius rather then RH? some drybox can set to display RH or C.
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a sundry digital 48L. normally around 46-48RH at night and 50+ daytime
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that's fungus. usually we send to shop, because they have the tools to open and clean it. do it ASAP, the fungus will grow and spread. unless u know how to service a lens, then u can do it urself.

if its an USD/SSM/HSM/SWM/MMMMMM lens, better send it back to original manufacturer for service.
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any shop that u know have this service? around kl also can. thanks ya nod.gif
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Petre: ur drybox seal may leak or the reader is broken(semi broken). u can get a digital RH reader online and test it again to confirm is reader or sealing.

Cinta Laura: sorry, i am from sarawak, not sure where in KL. i heard a place at mutiara plaza/complex at jalan ipoh got. not so sure.
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is it necessary to get a drybox in Malaysia?
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is it necessary to get a drybox in Malaysia?
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its up to how long will u keep teh camera or how often u take it for shooting..
if u think ur house or room is humid and lots of dust (like me) u better get 1..
btw im live/work at genting...so a dry box is necessary to me blush.gif

the main reason to get the drybox is to keep it from fungus..the cost servicing lens from fungus can go over the price of normal drybox..
still its up to u


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if ur lens just kitlens, its not really a problem, just go out and shoot often, let it meet sunlight, even our skin will grow fungus if we stay indoor for 1 month. tongue.gif

drybox investment is depend on ur lens investment. dont dare ur house is made from drybox, if u own lots of goodie lens, get a drybox just for it.
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QUOTE(Hantu641 @ Mar 26 2011, 09:56 PM)
its up to how long will u keep teh camera or how often u take it for shooting..
if u think ur house or room is humid and lots of dust (like me) u better get 1..
btw im live/work at genting...so a dry box is necessary to me blush.gif

the main reason to get the drybox is to keep it from fungus..the cost servicing lens from fungus can go over the price of normal drybox..
still its up to u
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if ur lens just kitlens, its not really a problem, just go out and shoot often, let it meet sunlight, even our skin will grow fungus if we stay indoor for 1 month. tongue.gif

drybox investment is depend on ur lens investment. dont dare ur house is made from drybox, if u own lots of goodie lens, get a drybox just for it.
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nice thread, if only i have a DSLR to take care.. lol'ed
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guy , i buy the Thirsty Hippo , and i go tear the WHITE cover , just a lubang , stil can use it? =(

and can i place my diy drybox in my room with overnight with AirCond?

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Apr 9 2011, 11:51 PM)
guy , i buy the Thirsty Hippo , and i go tear the WHITE cover , just a lubang , stil can use it? =(

and can i place my diy drybox in my room with overnight with AirCond?
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Oops! Not too sure about that but I think it will not work anymore as water can escape (evaporate) from the Thirsty Hippo. Furthermore, if your Thirsty hippo suddenly got knocked over, all the water inside will spill out!

My DIY drybox IS in my room 365/24/7 with aircond at night. wink.gif No problems so far....

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You can use drybox in air cond room with no worries. Aircond actually dries up moisture in the air. Mine in aircond room whole night.
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owh , i bought the new Thirsty Hippo to replace the lubang one haha , so i just keep in my room with no worry , thx guys =D
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Hi guys, I accidentally touch my lens and end up with a 3mm spot, can i clean it with lens pen.? cause i heard from other people says using lens pen might destroy the multi coat on the lens...
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hi i'm new in photography... next week i'm going for vacation to Redang island in Terengganu and i would like to know how to protect my Dslr camera from the sea breeze, do just by cleaning it with wet cloth will do or i need have more protection..any suggestion.....
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shepiroth: no that is nonsense by other paranoia that it will damage the coating. Btw, why didn't ya buy filters for your lens in the first place?

junhas: just brcause, yes, clean it with a dam cloth will do. It's suggest that you jab a dry box for the lens after the trip to remove moist caught in The lenses.
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Hi guys,

1. Is it okay to store my camera inside a room where there is airconditioning?

2. and if you havent got any place to put it, is it okay to store temporarily inside the original box? and store it only a very cold place.

my room is always at 16C
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1. not recommended for long term, just bring it out to meet the sun at least once a week.
2. its not the temperature that is concern, but moisture (RH%) in the air. just take it out and meet the sun at least once a week, erm did i mention that earlier?

the sun helps 'dries/vaporize' moist away. also help reduce fungus from growing (ppl claim the intense heat from the sun will kill the fungus seed, cant confirm.)
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where can get the humidity reader ? anyone know?
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where can get the humidity reader ? anyone know?
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search for "hydrometer" in the garage. Some sellers have it. I just got an analog one for my drybox coz the original digital hydrometer inside the drybox spoilt. Still looking for a digital one - shashinki carry it but out of stock at the moment.
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Could I keep my DSLR in the camera bag when not in use? And could I wrapped a piece of clothes on it? Because I want to make further protection if the camera knocks or drops.
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I would say invest in dry-box period. I have bad exprce and lost both lens..EF 18-55 & EF 70-300 to fungus.
stored in camera bag too long. Canon can not repair cos no spares oredi.

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hi there, just wanna ask,
does the fungus grow in the dslr without the lens?
i mean izit ok if i put the dslr body in slingbag for week?
or need to put in a drybox?
cos im goin overseas for 2 weeks and i think my drybox is so big and heavy to carry with me.. sweat.gif
sorry im just a beginner here..
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hi, well, since u bring ur DSLR oversea, definately is for shooting rite? shouldnt be a problem since i bet ur camera will meet the sun during shooting right?

2 week is a short period, as long as u move ur bag around, the moving air is not a ideal condition for fungus, so chances it grow is LOW. smile.gif
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t should be well-padded and big enough to fit all your accessories but still able to protect the camera in case of an accident (e.g. knock against a hard object, bag dropped, etc).
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Any good place to get a dry box?? By the way do any sifu here try to claim warranty if found fungus on their lens cause i read their manual it didnt say need to put it in dry box. Beginer here. Tq.
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hi guys, i brought the B+W filter lately. which is my 1st time deal with such expensive filter. how u guys clean it up? today i have try to clean the filter for more than 10 mins but i still can see there are few dust on it. =.=" any better suggestion to clean it?

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hi guys, i brought the B+W filter lately. which is my 1st time deal with such expensive filter. how u guys clean it up? today i have try to clean the filter for more than 10 mins but i still can see there are few dust on it. =.=" any better suggestion to clean it?
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err? the dust maybe is inside? u have to unscrew from lens to clean it?

B+W is known as easy to clean off oil dust and smudge. dust even blower can blow it away. but i think the dust is not on the filter itself?
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QUOTE(ieR @ May 6 2011, 09:24 PM)
err? the dust maybe is inside? u have to unscrew from lens to clean it?

B+W is known as easy to clean off oil dust and smudge. dust even blower can blow it away. but i think the dust is not on the filter itself?
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i have taken off from lens actually. i think i'll nid blower help to clean. tomoro i'll get a blower than try again. haha.
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Guys, do u store ur flash into dry box? When not using, do u take out battery? And will it fungus?
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Guys, do u store ur flash into dry box? When not using, do u take out battery? And will it fungus?
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when not using, battery will take out, due to avoid the battery melt inside..

don't have dry box, but no harm store inside i guess.. if din store, flash it once in period should shop fungus growing (if there is a chance to grow in flash head)
even with fungus, flash still functionable i guess
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hey guys, firstly, don't know if this has been asked before....but i just wanna know if the desiccant can really be used to keep dslr dry?
secondly, after awhile, the desiccant needs to be dried up by using oven? the packet would explode? maybe i'm just exaggerating...haha...but seriously, will it?
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louis, there is 2 type, the round white type that changes color from blue to red, and rock type.

the rock type cannot be recycle.

the color type, we dont use microwave, oven yes, fry it like kuew tiao, yes.
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QUOTE(ieR @ Jun 14 2011, 05:22 PM)
louis, there is 2 type, the round white type that changes color from blue to red, and rock type.

the rock type cannot be recycle.

the color type, we dont use microwave, oven yes, fry it like kuew tiao, yes.
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thanks ieR for the information. The one i have i actually in small packets...and color is pinkish to purplish color. I tried to heat it up in an oven but the color turned to bright navy blue color. I suspect cannot be used anymore right
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if turn blue, its fresh!!! good smile.gif if turn to milky white, its full of water...
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Will the dry box humidity will affect by room temperature ?
Just feel the dry box humidity meter show different when the room with air-con or without air-con.
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slightly. if u have your aircond blowing directly only it, it seem to will go up by 1-2% RH.

but if its not blowing direct by a airconditioned room, it seem after u open and close, the RH will drop faster then non airconditioned room. that is my experience.

leave some space behind the drybox and the RH will drop more steadily.
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ieR, my dry cabinet and wall distance is around 1 feet, it just like u say, air-con started the humility will higher, after awhile, I open the door n close it back the humility will drop. biggrin.gif
Now I setting up, air-con n no air-con also in a nice number between 40~45.
Now my air-con started will raise up to 47, without air-con will get 44~45, and sometime air-con on until morning i check out it will be 42... need a long observation for it...

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Does anyone heard of Sigma UV filter? I read from few reviews and most of them have no complains on it. But anyone from here try it? Thanks.
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erm, there is a lot re-badge filter by branded company. as for sigma i have no comment. if you are looking for a reliable one, Hoya and B+W is still the best pick
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Any suitable target should i look for?Looking for some best for buck card
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What happen if your hygrometer (I just purchased Wonderful Dry box) shows 30%? Please advice sad.gif Thanks in advance.
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30% is too dry for rubber, it will eventually destroy the elastic of rubber, not sure ur wonderful drybox has auto re-moist the box, else, open close the box few times to let wet air in.

45% is your targeting RH.
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Thank you for share your information. These references is helpful to me.

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QUOTE(ieR @ Jul 18 2011, 11:27 PM)
30% is too dry for rubber, it will eventually destroy the elastic of rubber, not sure ur wonderful drybox has auto re-moist the box, else, open close the box few times to let wet air in.

45% is your targeting RH.
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I still am puzzle on this fungus thingy. when the camera or lens which is display at the shop, it was not vacumm pack or anything like that, why is that the shop display does not infected with fungus or do they put it in dry box after each night !

Am worried too as sometimes not using my camera and lens like 2 weeks or more and before I invest in dry box. Does dry box needs to operates 24/7 or like switch on one day once a week.
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good question. unlike those boxing, they are dry in the first place. and during packaging, i believe their factory is very clean. and shop is wipe everyday. no leather or wet cushion or "bed" nearby to store fungus spore...

then why does our lens is prompt to fungus? because we took it outdoor, humid area, dust, zoom in and out, sometimes, got rain on, or during rainy days, room RHumid can reach 90+, and there is a lot fungus spore in the house, especially your room, ur bed has like 98% fungus spore.

Drybox has many type, analog or semi digital or full digital.

analog uses a, well analog reader, and fader switch for u to control how powerful the drying process, which u have to check now and then for the right RelativeHumid %~

semi analog uses a digital reader, more accurate, but still, a fader switch where u need to adjust if its too dry.

full digital, well, automatic stops when desire RH reached. and runs again when its wet(opened). best thing bout full auto digital is, if its TOO DRY, it has ways to make it back to wet again

eg: accidentally hit 40%RH when ur setting is at 45%, it will let its "iced" melt back to wet back the drybox. tongue.gif


Added on September 2, 2011, 6:58 pmso, its running full time, power consumed? about less then rm3 electric bill each month... cheap

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Sorry for asking. I'm newbies in photography

Can I know which temp is good for DRY Box to use in a room without aircon and fan.

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hi, TEMP is variable, it doesnt has direct affect on the RH.

as long as RH is set to 45 (avg) then it is fine.

it can be 50degree while 45RH, its so hot, but it will not create steam (steam is at 90+RH anyway)
it can be 5 degree while with 45RH, it will not create ice or condense because it lack of moisture (for condense to happen, it requires around 70+RH)
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QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 2 2011, 06:57 PM)
good question. unlike those boxing, they are dry in the first place. and during packaging, i believe their factory is very clean. and shop is wipe everyday. no leather or wet cushion or "bed" nearby to store fungus spore...

then why does our lens is prompt to fungus? because we took it outdoor, humid area, dust, zoom in and out, sometimes, got rain on, or during rainy days, room RHumid can reach 90+, and there is a lot fungus spore in the house, especially your room, ur bed has like 98% fungus spore.

Drybox has many type, analog or semi digital or full digital.

analog uses a, well analog reader, and fader switch for u to control how powerful the drying process, which u have to check now and then for the right RelativeHumid %~

semi analog uses a digital reader, more accurate, but still, a fader switch where u need to adjust if its too dry.

full digital, well, automatic stops when desire RH reached. and runs again when its wet(opened). best thing bout full auto digital is, if its TOO DRY, it has ways to make it back to wet again

eg: accidentally hit 40%RH when ur setting is at 45%, it will let its "iced" melt back to wet back the drybox. tongue.gif


Added on September 2, 2011, 6:58 pmso, its running full time, power consumed? about less then rm3 electric bill each month... cheap
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I would want to belived that our hands are the culprit to transfer those likely pores to the camera, just like the olden days saying, never touch the rice with your hands else it would not last long.

There are some truth to one investing thousands in lens/camera, why not dry box and this bring me to collect my new dry box tonight.

What i need to know if anyone have try. I got an old set of Canon T70 with lenses that has fungus in it. think these fungus will transfer to my new DSLR if I were to put in the same dry box ? I know it will not further grow fungus but the question is will it transfer fungus inside an operational dry box.


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ieR need advice I also new to photography, my friend advice me to keep my lens in just a big vacuum box and place a dehumidifier in the box too to suck up the moist.

Is this recommended?
Would this post damage to lens?

Thank you
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I would want to belived that our hands are the culprit to transfer those likely pores to the camera, just like the olden days saying, never touch the rice with your hands else it would not last long.

There are some truth to one investing thousands in lens/camera, why not dry box and this bring me to collect my new dry box tonight.

What i need to know if anyone have try. I got an old set of Canon T70 with lenses that has fungus in it. think these fungus will transfer to my new DSLR if I were to put in the same dry box ? I know it will not further grow fungus but the question is will it transfer fungus inside an operational dry box.
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i wont really do that, get it clean, cheah from mutiara complex does cleaning service... smile.gif

QUOTE(cireharkonen @ Sep 19 2011, 08:50 PM)
ieR need advice I also new to photography, my friend advice me to keep my lens in just a big vacuum box and place a dehumidifier in the box too to suck up the moist.

Is this recommended?
Would this post damage to lens?

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hi, welcome to world of photography. actually, that apply if u plan to store your camera for 2-3 months, but since u are new, just bring out to shoot often, at least once a week, let you camera and lens meet the SUN... the sun heat will be enough to stop any spore from growing.
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hi , i have a question , say i m going for a trip like 4 day 3 night , or 5 day 4 night ...

i use to bring my equip in a bag , then i wanted to know any of u bring a
dehumidifier with u in the bag , or few days doesnt really matter ? pls advise thank you
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it doesnt matter, it takes month for fungus to grow in dark, humid area... if u take the camera out to shoot, it reset the timer again... smile.gif
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for rechargeable dehumidifier, anyone know where can i buy Eva-Dry locally? I saw this product review not bad, or any other recommendation?

thanks.
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Hi guys....kinda urgent here.

Does anyone know where else can I service/repair my Nikon lens besides sending back to Nikon service centre? Nikon sc quoted me quite expensive and I'm trying to see if I can look for any other alternatives.

Thanks!


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hey to you who may know this...

im experiencing some difficulties with the battery life indicator,where after i fully recharge the battery,the indicator display show a full bar.. however after took couple of photos,then it went to 1 bar..from what i read,a fully charge battery can go up to 500 pic..

the battery itself is the problem or wat?btw i got spare and the same thing happen as well..

p/s i been using the battery/spare for 2 years now...

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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Oct 17 2011, 11:03 PM)
Hi guys....kinda urgent here.

Does anyone know where else can I service/repair my Nikon lens besides sending back to Nikon service centre? Nikon sc quoted me quite expensive and I'm trying to see if I can look for any other alternatives.

Thanks!


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just a question guys, are weather sealed lenses and bodies also prone to fungus?

I know it's about the humidity but does the weather sealing even at least resist the fungus growth a bit?
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QUOTE(saabmorales @ Nov 30 2011, 09:30 AM)
just a question guys, are weather sealed lenses and bodies also prone to fungus?

I know it's about the humidity but does the weather sealing even at least resist the fungus growth a bit?
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weather sealing has nothing to do with "fungus prevention"

in fact, weather sealing is double edged sword.

say it protect and prevent moisture going in, but it also prevent it from going out.

if you change your lens, let say genting, moisture gets in somehow during changing.... now back home, u store your camera in a drybox, the weather sealing prevent the moisture inside from getting out... so it get stuck, wet, inside the camera/lens. so u tell me, weather sealing, good or bad deal?
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I always clean my lenses before putting it in drybox
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QUOTE(Exeunt @ Oct 17 2011, 11:56 PM)
hey to you who may know this...

im experiencing some difficulties with the battery life indicator,where after i fully recharge the battery,the indicator display show a full bar.. however after took  couple of photos,then it went to 1 bar..from what i read,a fully charge battery can go up to 500 pic..

the battery itself is the problem or wat?btw i got spare and the same thing happen as well..

p/s i been using the battery/spare for 2 years now...
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might be the charger that has problem though. it happened to me once, where I was trying to charge it and the light was on. Then the next time i charge, it didn't work. Tried again another day and it worked. so weird!! I think i need a new adapter soon
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wow man... super comprehensive guide... thumbs up for the hard work!
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some places are so humid, might damage lens?
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where to buy all the cleaning for the lens?
1) Lens cloth (preferably micro-fiber type)
2) Lens cleaning solution/liquid
3) Lens brush - to remove dust at the edge of the lens
4) Air-blower - to remove dust particles on the lens
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QUOTE(kuch @ Feb 24 2012, 11:14 PM)
where to buy all the cleaning for the lens?
1) Lens cloth (preferably micro-fiber type)
2) Lens cleaning solution/liquid
3) Lens brush - to remove dust at the edge of the lens
4) Air-blower - to remove dust particles on the lens
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whoa... this thread is good.. bookmarked it for future reference..

nice work TS, keep it up
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Eh, how come its not pinned anymore?
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yea.. how come this guide no more pinned? i dont see a similar guide like this pinned yawn.gif

outdated info? lol
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i drop my samyang 35mm video lens.. any idea where can i repair it.. the mount crack. So far, they tell me need to send back to korea. minimum also 6month..

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very informative!
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is that dlsr screen protector is a must?
i just bought eos80d.. gonna use it for 4-5years
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i no have microwave ..
how can i reuse the silica gel ?
its still inside the mini plastic seal .. should i open and heat with lighter ?
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QUOTE(Ulysses @ Nov 23 2016, 04:17 AM)
is that dlsr screen protector is a must?
i just bought eos80d..  gonna use it for 4-5years
Not a need, unless you're that careless.


 

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