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mikecrush
post Sep 14 2010, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 14 2010, 06:36 PM)
MNet, you use translate the page using Google?
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seems like same problem for me . I am seeing default language chinese simplified

at the top can you see the ENGLISH button . just click on that
http://www.fundsupermart.com.hk/hk/main/re...&articleNo=4148

now its in english

enjoy
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post Sep 14 2010, 08:37 PM

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By default, it does not bring you to the English page. You need to click on the little "English" option at the top of the page.

I'm going to put a little bit in. This is definitely a high-risk, big loss high return type of fund. Compounded by the fact the Rupiah is also prone to big swings.

PS: someone already mentioned about the English click. That's what happens when you start a reply and the phone rings.


Added on September 14, 2010, 9:04 pm
QUOTE(mikecrush @ Sep 14 2010, 08:25 PM)
This will be my savings that i would not touch until my old days . hahaa.. by then  i hope will cross the RM1 or RM2 mark.
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Just a comment that while agents would like to talk about cost-averaging, it does not mean it's a sure winner in the long term.

Some funds will do well in the long term, some funds wouldn't. The ones that are less likely to do well in the long term are sector-specific, like Properties related.

Instead, for the long term, you should consider less sector-specific funds. Like equity funds which are more across-the-board, or balanced funds.




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post Sep 14 2010, 10:08 PM

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Currently the Indonesia stock market is in historical high. Anyone think it is risky to invest in the newly launch Public Indonesia Select Fund? Also Malaysia stock market, going to past it historical high as well. Anyone got any opinion on the current situation? Can we continue invest in the equity fund or it is the time to switch to bond fund and money market already?
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post Sep 14 2010, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(koo66999 @ Sep 14 2010, 10:08 PM)
Currently the Indonesia stock market is in historical high. Anyone think it is risky to invest in the newly launch Public Indonesia Select Fund? Also Malaysia stock market, going to past it historical high as well. Anyone got any opinion on the current situation? Can we continue invest in the equity fund or it is the time to switch to bond fund and money market already?
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I don't recommend invest in fund that don't have any track record.
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post Sep 14 2010, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Sep 14 2010, 10:23 PM)
I don't recommend invest in fund that don't have any track record.
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In general, I agree with your sentiment about track record. However, the track record is not in the fund itself, but the market the fund is investing in. In a trending market, most funds will make money - whether good record, bad record or no record. Not that I'm saying the market is trending now - one have to judge that for oneself smile.gif

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post Sep 14 2010, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Sep 14 2010, 08:06 PM)
If switching to the Public Indonesia fund, Got minimum unit required?
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Yes. Min units is 1000.
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post Sep 14 2010, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Sep 14 2010, 08:37 PM)
By default, it does not bring you to the English page. You need to click on the little "English" option at the top of the page.

I'm going to put a little bit in. This is definitely a high-risk, big loss high return type of fund. Compounded by the fact the Rupiah is also prone to big swings.

PS: someone already mentioned about the English click. That's what happens when you start a reply and the phone rings.


Added on September 14, 2010, 9:04 pm
Just a comment that while agents would like to talk about cost-averaging, it does not mean it's a sure winner in the long term.

Some funds will do well in the long term, some funds wouldn't. The ones that are less likely to do well in the long term are sector-specific, like Properties related.

Instead, for the long term, you should consider less sector-specific funds. Like equity funds which are more across-the-board, or balanced funds.
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ah i see, yes i have been hearing that too for some time now. But i am no going to take out the money from PFEPRF but open a new account with Equity or bond funds later.

Its interesting that in forex market . Only leveraging gave me good returns. Looks like mutual fund also behave this way.

what do you think about PUBLIC ISLAMIC EQUITY FUND & PUBLIC AUSTRALIA EQUITY FUND

do u have any equity funds personally ?

thank you for any insight


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post Sep 14 2010, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(mikecrush @ Sep 14 2010, 10:54 PM)
ah i see, yes i have been hearing that too for some time now. But i am no going to take out the money from PFEPRF but open a new account with Equity or bond funds later.

Its interesting that in forex market . Only leveraging gave me good returns. Looks like mutual fund also behave this way.

what do you think about  PUBLIC ISLAMIC EQUITY FUND & PUBLIC AUSTRALIA EQUITY FUND

do u have any equity funds personally ?

thank you for any insight
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You can switch to another fund rather than withdraw. A significant advantage of the PM/PB funds is you have numerous funds to choose from and you can switch easily via PM Online.

Leveraging amplifies your returns, and your losses - which ever applies.

Both the PM/PB Australian funds have experienced big swings up and down in the last few months, amplified by the AUD exchange rate which have been swinging in the same direction. The trend doesn't appear to be up or down, just big swings.
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post Sep 15 2010, 12:03 AM

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I am a nooobie beginner in investing. Hope my question not too stupid.

If i had UT as in PBAEF and it made profit. To secure my profit i can switch my investment to BOND by just paying rm25 . And I can switch it to another equity when i think is a good time to invest high risk investment by just paying rm25 again . I don't have to pay the 5.5%, right? is what i understand about switching and parking is right?

thanks for answering my noob question.
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post Sep 15 2010, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(xenos55 @ Sep 15 2010, 12:03 AM)
I am a nooobie beginner in investing. Hope my question not too stupid.

If i had UT as in PBAEF and it made profit. To secure my profit i can switch my investment to BOND by just paying rm25 . And I can switch it to another equity when i think is a good time to invest high risk investment by just paying rm25 again . I don't have to pay the 5.5%, right? is what i understand about switching and parking is right?

thanks for answering my noob question.
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Switching loaded units (bought from equity funds by paying 5.5% service charge) to equity/bond funds only requires to pay switching fee of RM25.

Switching the other way of non-loading units (bought from bond/money market fund by paying <1% service charge) to equity fund requires to pay RM25 switching fee plus service charge.

In other words:

Equity ---> Equity/Bond: RM25
Bond/Money market ---> Equity: RM 25 plus 5.5% service charge.
Bond ---> Bond: RM 25

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It depends whether your unit is consider loaded or non-loaded units.

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post Sep 15 2010, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 14 2010, 10:45 PM)
Yes. Min units is 1000.
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Thanks bro,Just say i like to switch from my bond fund, I just need to switch out 1000 unit from bond fund? Or i need to take out X unit from bond fund to make up 1000 unit in PINDOSF?
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post Sep 15 2010, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Sep 15 2010, 12:09 AM)
Thanks bro,Just say i like to switch from my bond fund, I just need to switch out 1000 unit from bond fund? Or i need to take out X unit from bond fund to make up 1000 unit in PINDOSF?
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You cannot perform switching during offer period as mentioned in the prospectus page 12.

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I'm not sure what is the condition to make up the 1000 units.

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post Sep 15 2010, 08:11 AM

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If PINDOSF is your new fund profile (means you do not have own it before) you need to ensure the value of switching is RM1K, so it could be more than 1000 units. On the other hand, 1000 units is to maintain your account (mostly equity).
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post Sep 15 2010, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 15 2010, 12:07 AM)
Switching loaded units (bought from equity funds by paying 5.5% service charge) to equity/bond funds only requires to pay switching fee of RM25.

Switching the other way of non-loading units (bought from bond/money market fund by paying <1% service charge) to equity fund requires to pay RM25 switching fee plus service charge.

In other words:

Equity ---> Equity/Bond: RM25
Bond/Money market ---> Equity: RM 25 plus 5.5% service charge.
Bond ---> Bond: RM 25

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It depends whether your unit is consider loaded or non-loaded units.
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Thks David83, I think mine is loaded because it is equity and i am charged 5.5%NAV.
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post Sep 15 2010, 10:50 AM

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I would put most of my investment in public bank growth fund (PBGF)
what about you?
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post Sep 15 2010, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(relaxtoday @ Sep 15 2010, 10:50 AM)
I would put most of my investment in public bank growth fund (PBGF)
what about you?
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I think it's not recommended, it's better to diversify your investment instead of putting all into same fund.
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post Sep 15 2010, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(almeizer @ Sep 15 2010, 10:55 AM)
I think it's not recommended, it's better to diversify your investment instead of putting all into same fund.
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It's diversified,
it's just that most of it is in PBGF
PBGF itself is diversified. It's not 100% stock fund.

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post Sep 15 2010, 12:34 PM

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Back to the PINDOSF, I have PSEASF with you. If I invest in PINDOSF, will this overlap my portfolio?
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post Sep 15 2010, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(mikecrush @ Sep 14 2010, 08:25 PM)

BUuttt ...if u put lump sum others example 20k when it was 25cents surely didn't make money until today. So a word of thought , debit every month from your account maybank or public bank . they minus RM1 for each debit transaction for maybank (public bank i dunno, maybe free kot i'm not sure ) .

yah so thats what i can muster for now  MNet:)
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Has anyone here tried CIMB auto debit for their PM investment? how much is the service charge imposed

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post Sep 16 2010, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 15 2010, 12:34 PM)
Back to the PINDOSF, I have PSEASF with you. If I invest in PINDOSF, will this overlap my portfolio?
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David,

When you invest in a new fund, PM will provide you with another unique acc no with unique to investor and the funds invested.

In short, NO, it will not overlap your current porfolio.

I hope I did answer your question

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