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 Pioneer Kuro PDP-428XG/508XG, Is it still being sold?

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post Jan 19 2010, 12:11 PM

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I wonder how much elite anfield bought it ?
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post Jan 19 2010, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 19 2010, 12:11 PM)
I wonder how much elite anfield bought it ?
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I bought mine at a bundle with some friends who purchased the older 8G (428XG, 508XG). I bought it around RM23k+ with 5 yr warranty (bundle price 5 months ago). At that time, the MSRP was RM35k, selling price was between RM25-27k depending on where u asked.

Not elite lah...

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Is the price at 21.9K with 5 yr warranty.

I think if anyone can get it at the current price is pretty good. From what I heard, there are limited units left for the 600M. There are more units of the KRP-500A left at the moment.

From what I have heard the M series calibrates slightly better than the A, but I doubt the eye could actually see it.

Also the 500 series is rumored to be slightly "blacker" as the incorporated some of the 10G advancements that they did that did not make it to the 60in, except possibly the last batch.


Added on January 19, 2010, 12:51 pm
Another note:

I for one was really not sure how much more the last gen Pioneers would improve of the 8G 428XG/508XG. However, the black levels improvements are pretty clear when compared. I did some quick cals (non ISFccc) to get the greyscale close. The Ms have the "Pure" mode. Without too much changes the greyscale was tracking below DE1976 of 1! Gamma was tracking at 2.25 and was flat. Colours were almost perfect within the CIE1931 coordinates. DE1994 on most colours below 3. Slightly higher DE on blue as it was slightly in the CIE triangle. Nighttime viewing using a bias lighting behind the set, I cannot distinguish the bezel from the black (2.35:1) bars. I set it for 20ftL only as the set only has 90hrs or viewing on them

The sets will improve after the 50hr mark, drastic improvements after the 200hr mark. The picture will deteriote from 200hr - 270+hrs. Then it will become better after that. Black levels will continue to improve until the 700hr mark, where it will be as black as that going forward.

However, no set is perfect and there are some flaws that were there even on the 8G Kuros.

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post Jan 19 2010, 01:06 PM

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wah it cost x2 of the wira in my house.. not elite ar?
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post Jan 19 2010, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 19 2010, 01:06 PM)
wah it cost x2 of the wira in my house.. not elite ar?
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My friend, based on the constant rumors abt u, this one display cannot match ur other sports car and ur numerous almost erotic relationship with swiss watches.... biggrin.gif

Ur the true elite, its just that ur interests have moved on to greener pastures


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I only have S10 plasma.. bought for slightly over rm3k , peasant status.. biggrin.gif


Added on January 19, 2010, 1:54 pmhopefully, we can meet up when you down in KL... maybe at taiko's mpyw place.. would be great!

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 19 2010, 01:32 PM)
My friend, based on the constant rumors abt u, this one display cannot match ur other sports car and ur numerous almost erotic relationship with swiss watches.... biggrin.gif

Ur the true elite, its just that ur interests have moved on to greener pastures
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No wonder everone calls you taukeh! tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 19 2010, 01:53 PM)
I only have S10 plasma.. bought for slightly over rm3k  , peasant status..  biggrin.gif
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Not to mention a older panny projector that at the time that u bought it was an arm and a leg! biggrin.gif

But we digress and before someone comes over and asks us to shut up, we shd.


Added on January 19, 2010, 1:57 pm
QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 19 2010, 01:53 PM)
I only have S10 plasma.. bought for slightly over rm3k  , peasant status..  biggrin.gif


Added on January 19, 2010, 1:54 pmhopefully, we can meet up when you down in KL... maybe at taiko's mpyw place.. would be great!
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Yeah, my next trip, will also bring over the CMS box, tested it briefly, very impressed. Will send it back for an upgrade to the Pro version.

BTW, u can check out the CMS box as the NDA is already lifted, Its called VideoEQ by AVFoundry. There is a clip over at YouTube on the unveiling at CES. I will try to start a thread on it.

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 19 2010, 01:55 PM)
Not to mention a older panny projector that at the time that u bought it was an arm and a leg! biggrin.gif

But we digress and before someone comes over and asks us to shut up, we shd.
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biggrin.gif it's still going strong on 1st bulb 2+k hours!!!

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Went to audit 508XG display set today. From the service menu, already clocked 2800 hrs rclxub.gif If less than 500hrs, perhaps still can consider. Nevertheless, I still impress with the PQ, despite only HD ready.

The funny thing they hooked up the DVD player to this elite TV instead of Blu Ray player doh.gif . Since the demo video was in wide screen mode (with top/bottom black bar), I set the TV to full free and saw the burn-in at the top/bottom black bar area. doh.gif . I believe the video was played in wide screen mode for the last 2800hrs continuously. Not sure can it be cured?
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QUOTE(gocitygo @ Jan 29 2010, 08:50 PM)
Went to audit 508XG display set today.  From the service menu, already clocked 2800 hrs  rclxub.gif  If less than 500hrs, perhaps still can consider.  Nevertheless, I still impress with the PQ, despite only HD ready.

The funny thing they hooked up the DVD player to this elite TV instead of Blu Ray player  doh.gif .  Since the demo video was in wide screen mode (with top/bottom black bar), I set the TV to full free and saw the burn-in at the top/bottom black bar area.  doh.gif .  I believe the video was played in wide screen mode for the last 2800hrs continuously.  Not sure can it be cured?
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If they only played 2:35 aspect ratio all the time and they set it in dynamic mode, I doubt that can be cured, especially if they have been doing that for 2800hrs!

Was it on dynamic mode? Or movie mode? What was the contrast?
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QUOTE(gocitygo @ Jan 29 2010, 08:50 PM)
Went to audit 508XG display set today.  From the service menu, already clocked 2800 hrs  rclxub.gif  If less than 500hrs, perhaps still can consider.  Nevertheless, I still impress with the PQ, despite only HD ready.

The funny thing they hooked up the DVD player to this elite TV instead of Blu Ray player  doh.gif .  Since the demo video was in wide screen mode (with top/bottom black bar), I set the TV to full free and saw the burn-in at the top/bottom black bar area.  doh.gif .  I believe the video was played in wide screen mode for the last 2800hrs continuously.  Not sure can it be cured?
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then it's still ok if you use it to play 2.35:1 movies.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 29 2010, 11:30 PM)
If they only played 2:35 aspect ratio all the time and they set it in dynamic mode, I doubt that can be cured, especially if they have been doing that for 2800hrs!

Was it on dynamic mode? Or movie mode? What was the contrast?
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Didn't check the TV setting. The SA try to use the built in Video pattern program but I doubt it will work.

BTW, the SA very impressed when I used the remote control to enter the Service Menu. Thanks for the tip. notworthy.gif

QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 29 2010, 11:39 PM)
then it's still ok if you use it to play 2.35:1 movies..  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(gocitygo @ Jan 30 2010, 07:47 AM)
Didn't check the TV setting.  The SA try to use the built in Video pattern program but I doubt it will work. 


they will be more impress if you show them how to turn on ISF-day color.. biggrin.gif
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508XG is an excellent plasma .... =) checked my panel spanking new and after 5 days only 23Hrs - still burning in.

thanks anfield dude for advise = ) - what does panel click means? 36 times on off?

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QUOTE(netken @ Feb 2 2010, 11:05 AM)
508XG is an excellent plasma .... =) checked my panel spanking new and after 5 days only 23Hrs - still burning in.

thanks anfield dude for advise = ) - what does panel click means? 36 times on off?
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How many times the panel was switched on and off IIRC.
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QUOTE(netken @ Feb 2 2010, 11:05 AM)
508XG is an excellent plasma .... =) checked my panel spanking new and after 5 days only 23Hrs - still burning in.

thanks anfield dude for advise = ) - what does panel click means? 36 times on off?
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netken, what a surprise to see you here. from icehifi to lowyat rclxms.gif

mind to PM me where you get the new 508XG? in penang, semua display sets. rclxub.gif
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thanks to mnkh for his recommendation ..

u can get it here ... http://www.hiwaylaser.com/

look for kenny - he is well known in the home audio scene ...
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QUOTE(netken @ Feb 3 2010, 07:59 PM)
thanks to mnkh for his recommendation ..

u can get it here ... http://www.hiwaylaser.com/

look for kenny - he is well known in the home audio scene ...
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what price for 508xg there ? seems no price tag @ d site....
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QUOTE(fredyrockz @ Feb 4 2010, 04:37 PM)
what price for 508xg there ? seems no price tag @ d site....
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RM 9.9 k (Call for lower price)
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RM 9.9 k (Call for lower price)
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ok thanks... notworthy.gif

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