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cassiemissy
post May 18 2010, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(faceless @ May 18 2010, 10:07 AM)
I think we are still a long way from here, Cassie.

They treated the performers as invisible. The least they could do is announce their names. It may seem like a small thing. If I put myself in mei mei shoes, I would had been heart broken. She put enough effort for a chance to play at a philharmonic hall but there was no mention of her being there.

It seem to me like the leader for that night just want to feed his vanity and ambitions. Most of the time was allocated to his piano and his saprano girlfriend (my suspicion only). I can also tell he is a great fan of 黄水谣's third cantata or yellow river wrath (as he translated it). Perhaps he thinks he can render it better with a piano duet. He tried to create successive big waves (compared to my simple version) using two pianos. He was a bit dissapointed when he had a smaller appaluse than 战台风. It not surprising because 战台风 uses a difficult grade7 skill called 扫摇 and that is good enough to charm the audience. In contrast people could not see 黄水谣's granduer when rendered by two pianos. It just like sounded like any other gui lao's music.
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hmm.. isn't their name mention in any booklet?

who is the leader btw? what's his name?

most songs when played on piano have its own charm.. and it has its own feelings, mayb u r too concentrated to having the chinese instrument having their credits that u neglected them.. i'm sure the piano rendition of 黄水谣 have its own colors as well.. haha..

but I don't deny that chinese traditional songs perform the best using the chinese instruments..coz it has the 'chinesey' mood that it produce.. haha.. btw, may i know how is扫摇 being played?

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post May 18 2010, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(faceless @ May 18 2010, 11:38 AM)
Cassie,
I am not using my bias to judge. I am using the audience applause. You have to know the context of 黄水谣 to appreciate what they are doing and the audience do not the context.

I think I must scold you lah. I don't address a note to you (by writting youn name on top) then you dont read it. I had talk about 扫摇already. While talking about it, I asked you some question. They are in bold.
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hmm..to tell u.. I read it b4.. but I don't understand it.. haha.. so i tot there's another explanation for it.. doh.gif

anyway, about tat chords thingy.. i did not reply to that is coz i do not know much about it either... i'm bad in chords and now u r talking about chords in numbers and I get more confuse. Since I did not take any exams, i guess my teacher did not emphasize to me about the chords things..

btw, about 扫摇 how do u read this 2 words actually ar? haha..

u mean this is a technique use to play 3notes and above together izzit? I'm still confuse actually.. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post May 18 2010, 01:39 PM

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u mean after plucking few strings then 摇 one of the strings? means lik we do 'yao zhi'? (i dunno the chinese wording) but we 'yao' after plucking few strings la? haha..

btw, i use numbers when learning gu zheng, just tat i never notice the chords much ar.. haha.. normally the chords i play will be 521 5215.. something lik tat.. haha..

oh.. btw, any few notes played together will form a chord if I'm not mistaken.. so previously ur 561 5 should be a chord la.. (if i'm not mistaken ya ><")

hope someone can clarify this matter.. haha.. getting more confuse adi.. laugh.gif
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post May 18 2010, 04:15 PM

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hmm.. maybe the types of chords is different.. i try to put in the notes..

for example, in guzheng piece which is in Dm, so the 5215 will be AEDA.. correct? but we don't normally see this chords in piano.. I'm not so sure though..

if in piano, common chords for Dm might be DFAC/1356? haha..

hmm.. good question to ask my teacher.. haha
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post May 18 2010, 04:43 PM

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actually ar.. in chinese notation also have Dm/Gm/etc right? so, if ur piece is in Dm, then 1 = D, 2=E, right?

haha... omg omg.. blur blur adi la.. where's all the top guru gone? haha
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post May 19 2010, 09:13 AM

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yup yup... i'm learning 1=G now as well as 1=D now.. kinda confusing la.. haha.. coz the 1 move to another string adi so make soo confuse when playing.. haha..
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post May 19 2010, 12:26 PM

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haha.. true.. i never tot tat it will be so confusing.. the 1st time i try it, i nearly gone bonkers trying to control my finger dun play the green string as no 5.. haha..

anyway, now is a bit better, but still slow when playing the whole piece.. coz still not that comfortable yet.. haha..

so now u hav progress to 2 right hands.. u r going to gain ur pair of hands soon.. wow..u work really fast.. haha.. so hardworking.. hehe..
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post May 19 2010, 02:07 PM

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haha.. then u hav a lot of time.. when i reach home it will be around 10pm.. sometime later.. haha..

but wat my teacher teach me, i just tune the 3 in D调 to be 1 in G调.. so that means all the numbering will be different adi..


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post May 19 2010, 03:27 PM

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u mean tune every string when u change to another key ar?

coz i only tune my no 3 which is F# to G when i play pieces in G调..

my 9th string become no 1 when i tune to G调

is this the right way? haha
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post May 19 2010, 04:09 PM

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nope.. coz in D调

1= D
2=E
3=F#
4=G
5=A
6=B
7=C

so in G调

1=G (D调 3)
2=A (D调 5)
3=B (D调 6)
4=C (D调 7)
5=D (D调 1)
6=E (D调 2)


my interpretation is this la.. haha


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post May 20 2010, 09:10 AM

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yup! that's what I'm telling u about yesterday.. just change 1 string tune and u will get G调.. laugh.gif i guess my explanation sucks..
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post May 20 2010, 10:06 AM

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laugh.gif it had been hilarious i tell u.. debating about this key made my day yesterday.. haha
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post May 20 2010, 11:03 AM

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laugh.gif so now u hav ur right tune back? haha.. good good!

it's really true.. everytime i tune my guzheng i need to spent AT LEAST half hour to finish it.. so many strings.. haha.. if it's very long no tuning.. more than tat.. haha..

i compare it with my violin.. tuning 4 strings and 21 strings are overwhelming for me in the beginning.. now I kinda get used to it already.. haha..

laugh.gif aren't u having fun yesterday as well? haha...

we should debate more.. talking about the notes yesterday makes me analyse the notes i'm playing all the while.. didn't really notice them last time.. haha
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post May 20 2010, 11:19 AM

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actually i understand the theory.. but i did not link it with the chinese notation.. coz numbering and the notes are different.. haha.. so i get confuse..laugh.gif
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post May 20 2010, 12:23 PM

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haha.. i see 123 = do re mi as well.. it's just tat do re mi doesn't necessary mean CDE.. as wat it happens in gu zheng.. haha.. tat's what make me confuse.. laugh.gif
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post May 20 2010, 02:00 PM

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laugh.gif i do use CDE=DO RE MI.. this is what i do all the time.. And in guzheng, i do use 123 = DO RE MI as well.. the only problem is, in guzheng, 123 is not = CDE.. that's it only.. haha..
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post May 20 2010, 06:00 PM

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Lol... I know la.. 1 notes oni but it's still confusing.. laugh.gif I guess the difference not tat much so you did not notice ur Guzheng was wrongly tune izzit? Haha

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post May 24 2010, 09:16 AM

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wow.. the guzheng look so.. pretty! haha.. i'm guessing the price should be over 5 digits.. haha..

btw.. i'm curious to know how much is you guys guzheng?
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post May 25 2010, 09:00 AM

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wow.. seems like fun.. I've never went to anywhere where there's sooo much guzheng.. My guzheng had been bought by one of my friend.. haha.. So i did not get the chance to choose it..

But too bad, the offer is only till end of this year.. I wouldn't be able to make it though.. Haiz..
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good good.. the more instrument the better! haha

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