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cassiemissy
post Apr 15 2010, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(faceless @ Apr 15 2010, 11:31 AM)
Cassie,

I never been to a philharmonic concert. Having only been to rock and heavy metal concerts, I had my own ignorance. In these concerts, you want get near enough to see and if possible touch your idol. Not much attention is paid to sound quality. As long as it the volume is at the right level for you to groove to it. In contrast, sound quality is the thing to look for in philharmonic concerts. Your explanation was clear. I understood it. It about sound and echo in a hall.
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yup yup... in rock concerts, the nearer the better.. when choosing my seats for my idol concerts, i did the same thing as well.. rclxms.gif

in concert halls, is all about echo, quality, balance, etc etc.. eventhough i've been in there few times, i did not really try all the good seats yet.. so cannot really compare actually.. haha.. what i know is only the expansive seatings often have the best sounds quality..


if i'm wrong, i hope someone will correct me ya! haha laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Apr 16 2010, 09:57 AM

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expert.. really expert! thanks for enlightening us! feel so knowledgeable now.. haha... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

btw, u said that there's time to mingle around? does tat apply to ALL types of concerts or just tat particular one?

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post Apr 19 2010, 11:48 AM

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hi guys! I wanted to know where can I find some scores for guzheng and erhu duet? perferably those beginners level.. any ideas where I can find it? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Apr 21 2010, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(faceless @ Apr 21 2010, 01:07 AM)
Cassie,

Are you not at Grade 4 level (as I know it)? Wow, now you want to go to beginner level! You seem to be soul searching for instruments.

Please share your thoughts, perhaps we can help you here. I remind you that, there are many experts here.
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laugh.gif yes, i'm in gr4 (learning for a year +)... i wan some beginner level duet is coz my fren who play the er hu is just beginner.. so in order to be able to play with her, i have to find some really simple and beginner pieces to play.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

hmm.. i don't really get what you mean by soul searching for instruments.. haha.. shakehead.gif


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post Apr 21 2010, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(faceless @ Apr 21 2010, 04:57 PM)
Cassie,

Soul seraching is to find something your inner being desires. It is usually used to refer to a person seeking the right faith/religion that will lead to God. For this people came up with the idea of a soul mate. That means a partner that is most compitable to you. In my case, I meant toying with all instruments until you find one that best suits you.

For start try the Negara Ku that I posted.


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in a way, i am trying to soul searching for my ultimate instrument.. laugh.gif i really wanted to learn many many instrument.. if time and money allow.. icon_idea.gif :




Added on April 21, 2010, 6:10 pm
QUOTE(subangman @ Apr 21 2010, 10:36 AM)
Cassie... i will be meeetin wit the 'gang' later tis evening @ MPO (2nd rehearsal)
I will ask them for u.... but cannot promise will b a beginner version.... hopefully not going to a hard one too.

I just landed back to KampungKUL yst to b the carry boy again.....  cool2.gif  cool2.gif  cool2.gif

btw: why she and not He.... then both of u can be a cool couple... (guzheng & erhu).. but make sure not (guzheng & dizi ... and make sure he is not
"Ling Wu Chung".. LOL ) !

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rclxms.gif thanks in advance ya! if u really can get some duet for me it will be sooo great! ^.^

dun worry about the difficulty.. i guess i can modified it to be simpler.. laugh.gif laugh.gif

ling wu chung?? laugh.gif cool.. didn't think about it this way.. too bad i couldn't find a he to duet.. tongue.gif


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post Apr 22 2010, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(faceless @ Apr 21 2010, 10:20 PM)

Wow Cassie!
You can modify a song, eh. I guess, that comes with the theory stuff they teach you in paino lessons. I wish I had that skill. I don't think it is that diffcult. It a question of chord progression (which I learnt in guitar) and key. Heck, I really don't know what key is all about. Sigh! I never meet anyone who can point me in the right direction on this subject sad.gif

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cool2.gif i haven try modifying any songs before la actually.. what I've in mind is like if there's a piece that's too difficult for my fren to play, then i just omit some notes and just ask her to play the main melody lo.. instead of some decorative notes.. haha.. that's what i think la.. since i did not done it before, i've no idea whether it works or not but still, it will worth a try.. haha..
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what do u want to know about key? maybe i can help u a little? laugh.gif




QUOTE(claire_freedom @ Apr 22 2010, 12:37 AM)
dear faceless,
thx for offering helps, but i ady have a guzheng
i wish the guzheng experts can share their thoughts and experiences here ...
as i always got probs on some technical issues...  sad.gif

i wonder ... why would u so familiar with guzheng stuff.. r u a guzheng teacher ?
i have numbers of questions to ask

btw ... i have quite a lots of music scores..
if anyone need it ... i can scan n post it here smile.gif
p/s: but mostly are some classic guzheng pieces smile.gif
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rclxms.gif do scan and share it here if you are free!! Chinese classical pieces are 100% absolutely fine with me! ^.^

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post Apr 22 2010, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(faceless @ Apr 22 2010, 02:37 PM)
Cassie,
For a start you can tell me what is a key. I had always heard people say what is they key for a song. I had no idea what it means.
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QUOTE(faceless @ Apr 22 2010, 02:41 PM)
Cassie,
See if this song helps.
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Thanks so much for sharing.. going back to try it! ^.^ notworthy.gif


Btw, a key is like Cmajor, G major, D major, A minor, etc etc.. basically, a piece of music is govern by a key.. for example.
Gmajor have Fsharp. And all the F in the music will have sharp unless stated otherwise.. Without the sharp, the whole music might be in a whole different pitch..
You know chords right? there are keys in chord as well.. CEG will be the tonic chord of Cmajor. DF(sharp)A will be the tonic of D major, and so on..

Different key brings different mood throughout the music and changes of key in a piece will cause changes of mood as it also change the pitch and chords progression.

I might not be able to explain it very well though.. hope you get the rough idea.. tongue.gif

if not, maybe some other people will be able to explain it better.. blush.gif blush.gif

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post May 3 2010, 10:45 AM

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laugh.gif laugh.gif been absent for some time.. haha.. this topic seems to went soooo far already... haha.. after this msg, i'm going to read back what i miss.. laugh.gif

btw, faceless.. i don't think i can join u guys after the show.. too late already and after my classes, i think i will be very tired.. tongue.gif: but don't forget to keep me updated ya! I would lik to know how it went.. laugh.gif


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Alright.. finish updating myself..

btw, i would like to know the shop that sells these books at Sunway Mentari right? What the exact name of the shop? haha.. so I wun get into the wrong shop.. laugh.gif

it seems that most of you all here are quite quite quite experience in the chinese music 'field' already.. haha.. so nice to read about the 'feeling' and techniques and tips.. do share more as I'm a mere beginner.. haha..



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post May 3 2010, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(faceless @ May 3 2010, 12:30 PM)


Cassie,
At Grade 4, you are not beginner. Although I already learnt all the skills listed in the exam book, I am still at Grade 2. I cannot play with two hands.
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laugh.gif even at gr2 ur understanding of this instrument seem so broad.. haha.. tat's wat make me feel so beginner.. haha..
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post May 4 2010, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(faceless @ May 3 2010, 03:06 PM)
Cassie,
My school is majority play for fun. That is why we skipped all over the exam book. Laoshi stress emotion because without it there is no fun. Play without expression and we will be stuck with that song. My loashi is still not making me play with both hands. I doing that on my own. Coordinating your left hand with your right hand is much harder than synchronising your play with another person (group play). I had been doing two hand for a month and still can't play a 4/4 bar. Maybe you can give me some tips.
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laugh.gif laugh.gif I did not take any exams as well so tat's y i can go so fast from beginner to gr4 in just 1 and a half year time.. haha.. tat's y i wanted to know whether this is normal or not as my teacher says that it is normal for adult to go from beginner to gr4 in 1 year+ .. and my teacher did stress on the emotions but the only thing is, i couldn't really catch it sometime.. sometime can sometime cannot.. haha.. make my teacher went berserk when i can play well at one time and badly at another time.. haha..

playing with both hands ar.. for me la, i practice just the left hand 1st so i recognise all notes already.. and the work on it so i can play it fluently just the left hand.. then slowly combine it with right hand.. i practice bar by bar, memorising in the same time.. after i perfected a bar, i proceed to the next bar.. haha..

and you can always sing of the left hand melody when u play ur right hand, so subconsciously you will be comfortable tat when u r playing the right hand, u know what ur left hand should sound.. tat's wat i do la.. dunno whether it helps or not.. haha..

for me, always knowing where the left hand note ends up seems to ease my playing a little as the melody is always with the right hand, so i couldn't find the left hand notes while playing the right hand. tat's y i make sure i've memorise them and sure how they sounds.. haha..

oh..and i start learning the left hand with just very very simple note.. only 1 notes in a bar.. haha... mostly play with the pinky..pluck.. then slowly my teacher gives me songs that have more notes on the left hand..haha.. maybe u can try to find songs with simple left hand notes to practice 1st? hehe

that's my 2cents.. hope it helps.. laugh.gif


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post May 4 2010, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(faceless @ May 4 2010, 10:46 AM)
Empire,
Now you are making me scared. Actually when I looked at your site, I did not pay attention to your Angels. I look at your site to know you because you are the one I am chatting with. The other thing that caught my attention was your long client list. It was very impresive.
I think if the Angles flank you outside Burger King, it will be hard to miss. Then we can go up to Chillis and ask the bartender who ordered a St James Gate. That person will likely be Subangman.

Cassie,
I dont have simple left hand pieces sad.gif The most simple one is 1535 and it is the same through the song 凤阳花鼓. This 1535, my left hand can play even without seeing already. When combining it with the right hand, they break apart. Did you have this problem before? It is like the left hand is not part of your body.

Claire,
You must be at level 5 or so? What tips can you give me on playing with both hands. How is the 扫摇 training comming along. By the way your problem is with the 扫 component or the 摇?
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Haha.. is it the 1st time u play an instrument with both hand together? if so, don't worry so much.. u've just started playing together about 1 month.. dun take it too hard.. mayb if you relax and think of the music it will be better?


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post May 4 2010, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(faceless @ May 4 2010, 03:05 PM)
Yes, it is the first instrument that uses both hands for me. Previous instrument is the guitar. One hand strum, the other hand hold chord. Prior to that the harmonica only one mouth to blow. I bought a harmonica holder. Played melody with harmonica and rhythm with guitar. It was not that hard to learn. Now it just unbelievable that playing guzheng with both hands is so much harder. It is good to hear that it is common for two handed playing. At least I know that I am not spastic.
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laugh.gif spastic.. omg.. dun la so stress.. haha.. u just haven gotten use to it yet.. haha.. dun worry too much la.. enjoy the music and ur left hand will come slowly.. when u play them together, u might not even remember the time u feel ur left hand doesn't belong to u,.. haha laugh.gif


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owww.... too bad.. if i'm not mistaken, the tickets are being sold out very very early already.. so popular.. haha..

remember to update me! ^^

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QUOTE(faceless @ May 12 2010, 09:32 AM)
All excited and ready to go for tonight consert.  smile.gif Too bad this is not one of those rowdy type of concert. Otherwise I will bring in the wineskin and party.

Cassie, you are going to miss this. Anyway, now I am playing like I had 2 left hands. It feels very "cacat". Did you have two left hand when you learn the piano?
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yea.. going to miss it.. nevermind.. there'll be another chance.. haha.. hope so..!


emm.. two left hand? ahaha.. u r damm funny in describing ur hands.. haha.. i guess it's an improvement rite..? last few post u say tat ur left hand dun feel like ur hand.. now it has become ur left hand but ur right hand become another left hand.. haha.. soon, the fake left hand going to become back ur right hand.. dun worry..

i dun really remember me having both left hand when playing the piano.. when i started playing the piano with both hands, i'm still very small.. so i dun remember the detail.. haha.. all i ever remember is piano is to be play with both hand.. tongue.gif tongue.gif but i remember when playing the guzheng, my left hand doesn't really listen to my wishes well.. tongue.gif but it will pass sooner or later.. lik i said.. furthermore, u r really hardworking and interested in this instrument so i think ur left hand will be obedient soon.. continue with ur progress! ^.^

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QUOTE(subangman @ May 12 2010, 10:33 AM)
dun worry.. i post u some clips .. the last full dress rehearsal ones here or u know where to find them right * i'll lift the privacy tag*
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YES YES! I will go looking for them! ^.^ thanks for posting!



QUOTE(faceless @ May 12 2010, 11:51 AM)
Your are also very cleaver in responding to my reply. When I said "I feel so spastic", you can consoled me well. When I said "cacat" (which means the same thing) you think it is no big deal. I guess it is an improvement. Two left hands is better than just one right hand. I guess the next level will be getting two right hand  shocking.gif  doh.gif  shakehead.gif  before I can get a pair of hands. By the way the tip on "enjoying the music" was a great help to get two left hands biggrin.gif
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haha.. i thinks it is really a no big deal coz you r just starting.. haha.. see? now at least u get two left hand already.. lik u say, two right hand later.. and having two right hand is great u know.. better than have a pair of hand.. drool.gif

and it's great that my sooooo tiny tips help u ya.. ^.^ hope to hear u play with both hand soon.. mayb a youtube? haha
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QUOTE(faceless @ May 12 2010, 12:39 PM)
Cassie,
You try and wear your left shoe on your right leg and tell me how it feels. Two right hands is still cacat lah. doh.gif Don't look down on tiny tips. Sometimes they are the main key to unlock all doors. youTube is too high tech for me. Plus my office firewall don't give me access to it.
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wahaha.. true also hor.. two right hand still cacat.. nvm nvm.. after 2 right hand u will gain back ur pair of hands.. lik my lecturer always tell me, 'u r getting there, but not there yet.. getting there getting there.. " rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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laugh.gif plane ar.. take car la.. normal and safe.. haha
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浏阳河.. hey.. that's the song I'm currently practising.. haha.. but it seems like mine might not be the simple version that you guys talk about.. but i wish it is.. i'm having such a hard time practicing it.. haha.. might post it up when i have the time tomolo..

so, how's the concert? Update me! Haha! ^.^ ^.^


aishatosh : welcome to this hot forum! haha.. hope u will take up the instrument as it is always more fun to play and listen than just listen.. haha..

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hmm... overall, I guess this concert is a big stepping stone for Malaysian music industry. At least, now more people recognize them and knows of the sounds it produce. The next step will be easier. Maybe the next round, will be a full chinese orchestra being perform? I will surely not miss it this time.. haha..

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