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empire
post Jul 15 2011, 01:52 AM

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Subangman...alamak...we miss your presence here la. Good to have you back nonetheless. Better late than never!

I am not sure if we perform in Kelana tonight. If we do... I will sms you ya?

How much I owe you for the strings?
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post Jul 18 2011, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(empire @ Jul 15 2011, 01:52 AM)
Subangman...alamak...we miss your presence here la. Good to have you back nonetheless. Better late than never!

I am not sure if we perform in Kelana tonight. If we do... I will sms you ya?

How much I owe you for the strings?
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post Jul 22 2011, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(subangman @ Jul 14 2011, 12:13 PM)
Faceless :-         time to lim teh alrid......
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Ok but these days like you got to be driver.

laBella,
You should get one of these duster. They are thin enough for the guzheng with handles long enough to reach into the full width of the sound board.
user posted image You can find it at IKEA user posted image

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post Jul 22 2011, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(faceless @ Jul 22 2011, 09:31 AM)
laBella,
You should get one of these duster. They are thin enough for the guzheng with handles long enough to reach into the full width of the sound board.
user posted image You can find it at IKEA user posted image
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The ikea duster not bad huh, I don't need a long ruler with wiping cloth anymore. rclxms.gif
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They are not ikea dusters lah. I bought mine from a RM5 japanese shop. You know those shops that sell things RM5 or under in which most of the stuff are from Japan, Taiwan, HK.

If you look at mine properly you can see it had a "telescopic antenna" handle (like the radio antenna can pull to lengthen). I guess it was design to reach high closet tops or the gaps between wall and shelf.

Aiyoh wipe with cloth tie to ruler, very mah fan lor. Previously I use paint brush.

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post Jul 23 2011, 02:00 PM

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We must keep this thread alive. This is the one and only Chinese musical instruments thread in English locally.
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post Jul 26 2011, 10:27 PM

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第二届国际古筝比赛决赛 二金二银我国代表唱丰收.

由香港中外文化艺术交流协会主办的第二届国际古筝比赛决赛目前在香港正如火如荼的进行。我国四位代表在海外组的项目中获得佳绩,其中来自砂拉越的刘镇荣以及槟城的王惜盈获得金奖,而林仪敏和梁毅彬则获得银奖。

本届大赛共设7个组别,分别为专业重奏组、海外组、少年非专业组A组及b组、青年非专业组、少年专业组、青年专业组等。参赛者多达300多位,除了马来西亚,还有来自中港台、美国、印尼、日本、新加坡、台湾、加拿大等地。

同时,赛会也邀请了多位国际知名的演奏家担任评审,有名曲《战台风》的原创者王昌元、古筝演奏家项斯华、苏宇虹、古筝演奏家兼教育家周望、沙里晶、尹群、来自台湾的樊尉慈、澳门的黄建伟、香港古筝演奏家罗晶等。

根据比赛当局于今早公布的海外组成集中,我国代表刘镇荣以《晓雾》与王惜盈以《夜深沉》取得评委的好评,同时以90.63的一样分数被授予金奖。另外,梁毅彬则以《晓雾》获得89.25分,与林仪敏的《汉江韵》以89的得分而荣获银奖。以上四位我国代表也是在今年三月主办的马来西亚区域选拔赛中遴选出的优胜选手。

除海外组成绩以外,也同时公布了专业重奏组的成绩。

此次赴香港参加决赛团队共八人,由第二届国际古筝比赛马来西亚赛区大会主席蓝启伦带领, 随团者包括筹备会主席陈荟茹、美术总监温文豪以及协调员周雪盈。区域选拔赛以及赴港参赛费用则由桂和集团赞助

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ok.. for those BANANA like myself ..... the 4 winners; (1st,2nd, 3rd & 4th) of the 2nd International Guzheng competition (Malaysia region) recently represented BOLEHLAND for the Grand competition in HongKONG and wiped all the trophies back.

Edwin & Xi Ying (refer to post #946) both tie with Gold while Yi Munn and Yi Bin both shared the silver.

these proof tat our GZ standard pretty high in international arena ....let the passion keep on burning. thumbup.gif

http://www.guzheng.com.my

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post Jul 27 2011, 12:22 AM

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This is wonderful!!
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post Jul 27 2011, 12:51 PM

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This is wonderful!!
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Does anyone know of a gu zheng teacher for children that will come to the house during weekdays? Location is OUG in old klang road.
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post Jul 27 2011, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(dawnfire @ Jul 27 2011, 12:51 PM)
Does anyone know of a gu zheng teacher for children that will come to the house during weekdays? Location is OUG in old klang road.
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why not in music centre? there is one in kuchai lama, one in Catholic High school jalan Gasing....which is a throwing stone away from your place.

if the teacher comes to your place u MUST buy the GZ else the teacher normally will not bring the GZ along... then the main quest need to
be addressed.. wat if the child wan to quit after a while then the GZ becomes a funiture !?! rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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post Jul 28 2011, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(dawnfire @ Jul 27 2011, 12:51 PM)
Does anyone know of a gu zheng teacher for children that will come to the house during weekdays? Location is OUG in old klang road.
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I know a gu zheng teacher teaching in a music center called Good Sound music & art in jalan mega mendung near OUG plaza. Not sure whether she teaches private, you may PM me for her contact number. :-)
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post Jul 29 2011, 12:42 AM

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La bella...you should post more updates here. Dont read and keep quiet only.
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KONG AUDIO for my Chinese brothers and sisters. Quality!
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QUOTE(subangman @ Jul 26 2011, 10:27 PM)
user posted image

ok.. for those BANANA like myself ..... the 4 winners; (1st,2nd, 3rd & 4th)  of the 2nd International Guzheng competition (Malaysia region) recently represented BOLEHLAND for the Grand competition in HongKONG and wiped all the trophies back.

Edwin & Xi Ying (refer to post #946) both tie with Gold while  Yi Munn and Yi Bin both shared the silver. 

these proof tat our GZ standard pretty high in international arena ....let the passion keep on burning.  thumbup.gif

http://www.guzheng.com.my
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Bolehland everything also boleh rclxm9.gif
the 3rd International Guzheng competition will be Meimei turn to bag home a medal.

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post Jul 29 2011, 10:28 AM

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Congratz to the winners! Wow... I'm glad that Malaysia has a lot of talented gu zheng players!!

Well, it's been 4 months I learn gu zheng. Already upgrade from beginner to grade 1. Recently I learn 'flower finger'(花指), up/down bending (上/下滑音). But I still can't get the bending note accurate everytime, maybe I'm not used to the bending strength especially the down bending (left hand press down the string first then right hand pluck).
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QUOTE(la bella @ Jul 29 2011, 10:28 AM)
Well, it's been 4 months I learn gu zheng. Already upgrade from beginner to grade 1. Recently I learn 'flower finger'(花指), up/down bending (上/下滑音). But I still can't get the bending note accurate everytime, maybe I'm not used to the bending strength especially the down bending (left hand press down the string first then right hand pluck).
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If you did not write the chinese word I dont even know what is flower finger. Hahah the funny thing is when Empire said glissando, I had no clue what he was talking about until he showed me.
Bending drill for you below laBella
练习一
12 23 35 56 61 play in 1/16 time (the one with double underline in chinese notation).
练习二
1bu = play note 1 and bend up
1bu, 2bu, 3bu, 5bu, 6bu in 1/8 time (the one with underline in chinese notation).

Lesson 1 and 2 should sound the same. The thing is 1bu = 12. So 2bd(bend down) = 21. To learn bend down use descending notes for lesson 1 and 2 above.

These lessons may not relevant for you because you should already know how each notes sound since you had been playing the guitar some time. Maybe your teacher did not explain what is the proper requirement. He just listen and say it is not right. I had the same problem too. When I read from a DIY book it is spelled out clearly 1bu = 12. That means when you hit 1 you should press it until it goes to note 2 in half the note duration. And when you reached note 2 stop pressing and hold it at the note 2 for the remaining half of the note duration.
In the case of bend down, lets say 1. You should press string 1 to get note 2 before plucking. Given practise you will know how hard to press. Then pluck the string and release pressure gradually until you are no longer pressing at all. This must be done in half note duration so that the note 1 will sound for the remaining half note duration.
Since you know music theory, I think you should know what I am talking about. But if you are still blur just ask question and I will try to rewrite the in from another angle.

If you remember I said the most important thing in getting a guzheng for beginners is long sustain sound. Bending is the reason for its importance. Most student without music background will get to this chapter on bending after a year thus the saying entry level guzheng can only last at most 2 years because entry level guzheng are not design to give so much attention to the nitty gritty of higher level lessons.

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post Jul 29 2011, 10:06 PM

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Revised version as the initial uploaded wit sound defect.





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post Aug 4 2011, 01:28 PM

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We must meet again soon! SUBANGMAN...yoru hse still open ya? :-)


Added on August 4, 2011, 1:30 pm17 AUGUST is Nuzul Quran...so it is a holiday in KL and Selangor. Shall we meet in Subangman's hse? I suggest 1noon. Anyone?

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post Aug 12 2011, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(empire @ Aug 4 2011, 01:28 PM)
We must meet again soon! SUBANGMAN...yoru hse still open ya? :-)


Added on August 4, 2011, 1:30 pm17 AUGUST is Nuzul Quran...so it is a holiday in KL and Selangor. Shall we meet in Subangman's hse? I suggest 1noon. Anyone?
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Bru... sori can't make it as my office in KL lar.. NO such luxury to b off.

I met wit Bella...... she also working tat day.

Mei-mei going down to South for meetup wit her sifu.

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28th August :- both gals attending WDCAAL MALAYSIAN ASIAN OPEN CHAMPIONSHIP,
9TH CRYSTAL DANCESPORT CHAMPIONSHIP 2011 & WDC-AL WORLD TEN DANCE RANKING EVENT 2011

29th -31st August : balik kampung see my Dad as he claimed his son had forgotten him alridi.

1st Sept : CCMA GZ exam for Mei-mei.

right after exam till 4th entire platoon heading out to Sillypore for a function.

Sorry for the late informations.

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Bella :- Howz the Type B strings?

Empire : Bru... the B strings miss its new ownner ..... wonder can just drop into ur house mailbox or i pass them to ur workshop
as next week till the last week of August..very busy.

Faceless : long time never hear ur voice lar... bila nak havoc ?

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hi guys i'm new here.. and i'm an erhu-ist.. started learning since last year =)

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