Great thread..useful for me to prepare my kids..!

Anyway, can anyone comment on how cheap is uni education for Australian PR holders as compared to international students? 50%? or even lower? cheers!

Depends on the classes you take, and then if there is a discount or other form of payment help (HECS etc).

Without any of those, the basic fee for each (6 unit) class depends on the class. For example, at one of the cheaper Australian schools for internationals (ANU):

A random class in Philosophy, Law, Chem, Physics, Engineering, Psychology, Maths, Stats, Econ, and Finance each cost AUD 3414 for internationals (except for Phil which costs $2946), whereas domestic students pay 2550 for Phil and Law, $2676 for the five science classes, and $2946 for the last three.

For an international the total cost for a typical, non-overloaded year during 2012 is $27312. I believe at various universities in Melbourne and Sydney the cost will be several thousand greater.

As you can see it varies by a lot for domestics. As far as I can tell, those within Business & Economics are probably the most expensive because of over-subscription or high demand, whereas Philosophy and subjects like Physics face lower demand. Although it is strange that Law would cost the lowest amongst all these.

thanks lighting fist....!

So without discount or scholarship/loan like support, we're talking about range of 20- 25% cheaper....

So i guess the true value of studying in Australia with a PR is having the HECS to ease your burden (don't know much about this but will check this out) AND that also for the ever popular courses (dentistry, law, med), a PR holder can opt to do year 11-12 over there and use the results to enter the popular unis (competing against locals as opposed to international students)?

This post has been edited by nando: Apr 23 2012, 11:33 PM

that is a very confusing and inaccurate reply....

bottom line is, locals (both citizens and pr) get commonwealth supported places (csp), which is subsidised by the oz gov to the tune of about 2/3 to 3/4.....

so locals will still need to pay about a third.....but can borrow money, called hecs (it's like ptptn loan), which the student pays back when they start work and earn over a certain amount...

so the simple answer is, local students pay about 1/4 to 1/3 the fees paid by international students.....either up front, or eventually.....

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Added on April 23, 2012, 11:45 pmwrong....

you don't have to be local to do year 12.....various colleges in msia (and elsewhere) run year 12 programmes, eg sam, ausmat...

it is easier to enter oz unis using a levels than year 12 results into especially critical courses....

it is easier for internationals to enter critical courses (whatever pre-u they use) than locals.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Apr 23 2012, 11:48 PM

thanks bro...if you're referring to my reply, then apologies..me and siblings came through our local uni system....., so absolutely no idea about the Australian system....

BTW, sorry, i sent you a PM earlier to ask about this, before discovering this thread....so this is much better place to discuss

here's the deal...I am thinking along this line...

As a middle class working fella in Malaysia....it will be almost impossible to save enough to pay for a 4 year uni course in Australia...maybe a twinning program is possible, but bottom line is ..a lot of savings will eventually be going towards kids education....

I am thinking of getting an unpaid leave and work for 2-3 years in Australia where employer offers the RSMS visa, which is basically a full PR for the whole family....Of course if everything works well over there, its possible to stay there and forget about coming back...

But assuming if we do come back.....we'll have to put the kids through international school/home schooling. However I am assuming that the beauty of this is by the time they are ready to start their tertiary education, it will be much cheaper for me..

of course there are other issues such as instability, too much moving around, etc, etc but overall, I think its still a better option maybe...

i was referring to lightingfist...

I see..I guess i'll need to do more survey then...from your comment, it looks like for critical courses, its easier to enter (as international) but of course pay more....

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Added on April 23, 2012, 11:56 pmok, thanks....
do comment on what i have to ask....really appreciate you taking time to reply...


Perhaps what my questions here don't really fit the original purpose of the thread, but it does gives an idea how tough is it for parents to send their kids overseas..so much to think about...

so to those going there...make the best of it and do your parents proud!

This post has been edited by nando: Apr 23 2012, 11:56 PM

you will not be the first person who have thought about migration, purely for the sake of the next generation.....and the hope of cheaper education...

the rsms visa 119 i guess may be the easiest to qualify for, but you will still need a recognised qualification and registration (or ability to get registration) from the respective professional bodies...and a full time at least 2 years job offer....

getting a job offer from outside oz is difficult, believe me....

changes to the rules from july will likely make it more difficult for would be migrants....

note that under current exchange rates, it is cheaper to study in uk.....

thanks mate!u do know a lot.....
I will pm you when i have more details....wont want discuss too much about PR issues here.....

hi guys.. going to further my study in the UNSW next year, Electrical Engineering. Some of my seniors said that EE there is the toughest, and the living cost is extremely expensive.. i am more concern to the living cost, is it really expensive?

yes......for the ranwick campus, expect rentals to be about aud800-1000/mth.....the rest depends on how frugal you are....probably can live with aud600/mth if you do a lot of cooking yourself....

i guess engineering would be in the kensington campus

hi all,
i'm new to this thread.

i'm heading to ANU this July.

I understand that it'll be winter... i'm quite worry as I never had any experience of winter season.

One more thing, is it possible for Malaysian (ANU student) to do internship in Aussie, particularly in Sydney?

hey guys, im moving to melbourne for my degree this coming july...am currently looking for a good place to stay, anyone of u happen to have a space for room sharing? trying my luck

It is not very very cold in Australia... certainly not in the ACT... what I mean is the weather is certainly cold relative to Malaysia but not harsh like Canada, Russia etc. There will be times where a jacket or coat is useful but nothing to worry about.

An internship is possible (not everywhere because some firms require PR/Citizenship) but a good one is very hard to get if it exists.

you have obviously never been to act during winter.....

+1.

hi there..
u are currently studying in ANU?
well as informed, i'l be heading there this July.

based on my reasearch ANU is drier and colder than melbourne, sydney...
so i'm quite worry of winter.. I have never experience winter..

any advice or tips?

Thanks

Have you?

LOL

Different people have different tolerances. And it's not what the thermometer or internet says, it's how windy it is.

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Added on May 5, 2012, 11:03 pmWeather is very erratic. Seasons do not mean too much. Supposed to be warm, could be very cold, supposed to be cold, could be very warm.

Changes are sudden. Weather in a week can be very warm for a couple days and freezing the other days, whether it is spring, autumn, or winter.

Does rain sometimes, a small umbrella (which you can get here) can help. Or a waterproof jacket or coat.

And a jacket or coat for when it's windy. Otherwise normal clothes, or a pullover/sweater will suffice.

This post has been edited by LightningFist: May 5 2012, 11:03 PM

it is wise, when having already made a mistake, not to dig deeper holes for oneself.....