Exactly the same thing, but mine is lighter in color

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Added on December 31, 2009, 1:55 pmDoes anyone know how to activate the pixel orbiter on this TV?

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Added on January 9, 2010, 3:00 pmhttp://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-televisions/385173-pioneer-dvd-retention-washer-available-here.html

I'm going to try with this, see if it works

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Added on January 9, 2010, 3:00 pmhttp://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tele...lable-here.html

I'm going to try with this, see if it works

This post has been edited by echoesian: Jan 9 2010, 03:00 PM

50S10K seems not to have any user accessible features to fix or to prevent IR

I've tried several ways to remove the IR but there is no improvement so far. After a while I found out a scrolling washer image from Pioneer - http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tele...lable-here.html, I have tried to use this for several times and I feel it is quite effective, I've noticed a very very little improvement. So on one day, I try to switch to Just mode to watch Astro, after switch off and try observe the IR, you know what? The IR seems like getting back to its initial shape. What this tells me is that it is damn worrisome to watch Astro with station logo even though most of the station logo doesn't stay there for very long because it is gone when the programme switch to Advertisement.

My TV mileage is 300 hours now, I'm not sure when I can enjoy Astro without worrying too much about the burn in issue. Although there is no visible burn in now, imagine if keep watching Astro for another 1-2 years, there is a high probability the IR becomes a permanent burn in ?

Sorry to hear about your plasma tv problem, bro. I will go crazy if I were in your situation . All the worries on your tv might get burn in and maintenance work needed to avoid burn in on the tv screen before off your tv or go to bed has made the tv more of a hassle rather than an entertainment set .

My LG plasma TV also got astro logo burn in since 2 months ago...

Is your burn in situation similar to mine?

hey echoesian, i'm very sorry to hear that...me too just scared this thing happen, and i'll always make sure the contrast and brightness were not that high by setting it at 45 and below...according to mys salesman, he did told me that this will happened if you let this tv static for straight 2 hours and more...btw, what setting do you used and are you satisfied with the picture produced? as for me, my 10 hours run-in plasma still not give me the 'WOW' impression as I don't expect it for the first 200 hours and i'm still using rca cable for astro connection.

This post has been edited by kayly: Jan 17 2010, 04:53 PM

Which TV model are you using?

hi echosian....i'm using p42s10 series...

why not try to zoom out the aspect ratio while watch astro ?

When zooming out to Zoom2, the PQ is very horrible

sure boh,i did try out but ok 4 me leh.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

I feel the pixels are kind of distorted or exploded?? but of course that's also depends on the viewing distance. I still prefer to watch Astro in 4:3 but when watching on Plasma must be very careful and not to watch for longer hours....

I am loving my plasma screen, but i think my next purchase will not be a plasma anymore. In fact I feel plasma tv will be dead too in the future. But before any plasma fans start to attack me, here are my reasons why I feel plasma will be extinct in the future..

1. LED LCD tvs are getting more common and cheaper by the days and the boast picture quality and black levels as good as the plasma. So why buy plasma and risk getting burn-in on your screens.

2. With Astro Beyond here now, HD tv will be getting more popular than ever and the truth is most HD channels will have permanent logo that is famous for causing burn-in on plasma screen.

3. Plasma suck power so much more than LCD tv adn even the latest plasma from pana with neo-pdp have no match for the LED tv now.

4. Plasma tv have not really improve much over the years as compare to LCD tv. A few years back, plasma rule in terms of picture quality and black and contrast level, but these differences is almost gone with the LCD tv improvements over the last few years.

5. I thought burn-in are a thing of the past for current plasma tv but they are not.

Well, The story of plasma willbe dead already there for the past few years but yet still survivi till now..& LED TV is just a normal TV but instead of using florescent backlight, it uses LED thus less electricity & black.

Certain school of though will disagree on your statement that Plasma consume more than LCD...however LED diff games bcos using cost saving LED.


Anyway, agreeing that Plasma & LCD not much diff interm of PQ nowadays. LED will be a super good buy if the price

I suspect this burn-in only on few selected model of plasam & one of them Panasonic S10K series. So far no one facing this on the C, X & G series....Furthermore the S series have been withdrawn from the market without any valid reason esp they still selling the outdated C series & the HD ready X series....Does this ring any bell?

So can we list down the model that easily gets the burn-in issue?

1) Panasonic P42S10K
2) LG Plasma...?

Let see what will happen when Panasonic 2010 V and G models arrive to Malaysia. Let wait and see the performance of some called native contract of 5,000,000 : 1 and did you guy notice that the US model for S2 power consumption for 42" already decrease from 485 W in S1 to 298 W in S2. Just wondering what is the power comsuption for Malaysia model.

I don't think Plasma will loss cause simple, price issue. Most of our Malaysian less concern about the specification, their are more concern on price. This is still the weak point for LCD based TV for now.

I read from some megazine, their test the power consumption for Plasma for 54" Panasonic, 50" Pioneer and 50" Samsung, I noted actually when Plasma in all black, their only comsumed less than 200w power but when all white, thier comsumed 300 to 400+ W. Did that mean, power consumption for Plasma is vary according to what their display?

This post has been edited by low98944: Jan 21 2010, 10:09 AM

I predict that the future trend of TV will lean more towards "Go Green" direction like energy saving and using non-hazardours material for tv parts for easier disposal. So judging it in this direction, especially when OLED tv generation arrives, plasma might be struggling to compete with it unless they have come out new or breakthrough technology to keep them alive in this direction.

Don't talk about whose PQ and black level is better or so but towards the awareness of eveyone living on this planet, more ppl will tend to go for those tv set with the "Go Green" elements as part of their responsibility to fight with Global Warming.

"Go Green" is good thing, but who's care? At least in Malaysia, how many ppls really care about Green? Give us a choice, want green with more expensive products or less green with cheaper products? Don't you think which product will survive? Unless their can got green at the sametime lower the price la.

When OLED is ready, it is time for all Plasma, LCD, LED LCD, etc to retire.

This post has been edited by low98944: Jan 21 2010, 01:32 PM

My boss tell me in Japan, there is a point system for 'Going Green Lifestyle'...benefits will be given by the company based on that point system...but in Malaysia..err..just follow ISO14001 requirement should be proud oledi.