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post Feb 2 2010, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jan 22 2010, 08:25 PM)
Why need to stretch...LCD no need to do that.  Another restriction for plasma screen
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stretch mode is a mode to make 4:3 video fit into 16:9 screen, want to do also can dowan also can.. biggrin.gif

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post Feb 3 2010, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Feb 2 2010, 10:44 PM)
The IR on your screen is viewable on normal content or only apparent on standby mode / non-signal source in a dark environment?
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The IR on my PV80 last time was visible during normal viewing of light background (e.g. clear blue sky, white background). It is worse than your case.
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post Feb 3 2010, 09:33 AM

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Hmmmnn Suprisingly my P42X10k dun hv this IR problem...probably my eye can't see the ghost shadow biggrin.gif

BTW, TS, Hv u call Panasonic since it's still under warranty??
QUOTE(phat_newbie @ Feb 2 2010, 08:42 PM)
Hi echoesian, I am a Panasonic plasma user since the PV80 model. My previous PV80 plasma had a permanent AXN logo IR on it after less than 3 months usage and I called to ask Panasonic to come and inspect. Following that, the agreed to exchange my PV80 for a new unit but because at that time PV80 was obselete, they gave me an X10K instead. Guess what, watching Astro and playing PS3 now on my X10K still gives me a temporary IR which needs probably 3 days of watching HD content (Bolt 720p, Ice Age 3 720p, Madagascar 720p etc) continuously for 5 hours a day to wash off the IR. Hence, I have now given up trying to avoid IR on my plasma. Just watch and play all I want and enjoy the rich and natural colors without ghosting effect and not worry too much anymore. But take note, IR/Burn-In is still a common issue for plasma panels.
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post Feb 3 2010, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Feb 3 2010, 09:33 AM)
Hmmmnn Suprisingly my P42X10k dun hv this IR problem...probably my eye can't see the ghost shadow  biggrin.gif

BTW, TS, Hv u call Panasonic since it's still under warranty??
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The thing is this IR is not visible during day time, I'm very sure they will not say that there is a problem
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post Feb 3 2010, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Feb 3 2010, 09:33 AM)
Hmmmnn Suprisingly my P42X10k dun hv this IR problem...probably my eye can't see the ghost shadow  biggrin.gif

BTW, TS, Hv u call Panasonic since it's still under warranty??
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Try playing AC, AC2, prototype, infamous or guitar hero on PS3 for like 3 hours. Then slot in a SD card with the burn-in static images of various colors. Look at the top left of your screen and you will see the HUD from the game stuck there. Very obvious and it will be stuck there for a minimum of 3 days and eventually go away after u feed in with other sources like mkv movies or DVD (full screen reso).
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Not sure it is a good news or bad news for me, I wonder why you guys have the IR visible on normal content but mine is only visible on no-signal source on dark environment...
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post Feb 3 2010, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Feb 3 2010, 10:47 AM)
Not sure it is a good news or bad news for me, I wonder why you guys have the IR visible on normal content but mine is only visible on no-signal source on dark environment...
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same here
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post Feb 3 2010, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Feb 3 2010, 10:47 AM)
Not sure it is a good news or bad news for me, I wonder why you guys have the IR visible on normal content but mine is only visible on no-signal source on dark environment...
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I have told u a couple of times, enjoy ur set and vary ur content. Don't worry too much.
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Feb 3 2010, 01:24 PM)
I have told u a couple of times, enjoy ur set and vary ur content. Don't worry too much.
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Not fully enjoy lo.... cos cannot increase the contrast for Astro!! I'm satisfied with my setting on HD source which contrast is at 70 but not Astro, the contrast is set to only 40 now for Astro because scare kena burn...
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post Feb 6 2010, 07:47 PM

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Ok this my experience after my S10K has almost 200 hours of break-in.

Was watching Blomberg for only about a minute or 2. Then switch off the Astro decoder. Room lights off & the screen turned dark. Noticed some light colour IR where previously there were static images.

Switch on Astro again & turned to other channels without static images for a minute or so, switch off & noticed IR gone.

But this IR thing can only be seen at about 5" away from the screen & not at the normal viewing distance. Also definitely cannot be seen during content viewing of all kind.

Also earlier reported that there was some dark IR on the top right hand corner due to Astro watching but after a few hours "washing", it was gone.

But anyhow, from now on what I do is that after finished watching the TV for the night, I will "wash" it by setting the timer to 90 mins.

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post Feb 6 2010, 11:18 PM

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hi jitbeng,

would you mind to tell me the method you used for "washing" the plasma..
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post Feb 7 2010, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(jitbeng @ Feb 6 2010, 07:47 PM)
Ok this my experience after my S10K has almost 200 hours of break-in.

Was watching Blomberg for only about a minute or 2.  Then switch off the Astro decoder. Room lights off & the screen turned dark. Noticed some light colour IR where previously there were static images.

Switch on Astro again & turned to other channels without static images for a minute or so, switch off & noticed IR gone. 

But this IR thing can only be seen at about 5" away from the screen & not at the normal viewing distance.  Also definitely cannot be seen during content viewing of all kind.

Also earlier reported that there was some dark IR on the top right hand corner due to Astro watching but after a few hours "washing", it was gone. 

But anyhow, from now on what I do is that after finished watching the TV for the night, I will "wash" it by setting the timer to 90 mins.

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Are you sure you can just wash it using the non-signal RF for few hours only?
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post Feb 7 2010, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(kayly @ Feb 6 2010, 11:18 PM)
hi jitbeng,

would you mind to tell me the method you used for "washing" the plasma..
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"Washing" means switch to a no signal input while TV is on. You will see the moving snowing effect on the screen. In my case I just press the TV button on the remote.

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Feb 7 2010, 01:18 AM)
Are you sure you can just wash it using the non-signal RF for few hours only?
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Yes I am sure. I have read somewhere also you may need to "wash" it for up to 24/7 to get rid of it. But try to increase slowly the hours of "washing" until the thing goes away. Good idea to switch to "washing mode" with the timer on after you have done watching the TV for the day.

Anyway in my opinion this IR thing will affect almost all plasma TV, if not all. Just that most people do not noticed it because it is not visible from the standard viewing distance. And certainly most people do not observe their TV from a distance of about 5" unlike us who are curiosity geek.

Enjoy watching your TV. I am enjoying mine to the fullest.

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P/S - Noticed the screen now is almost black when TV is off. Before that it was light greenish.

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post Feb 20 2010, 11:02 PM

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After 1 week of heavy usage of Astro viewing, I hentam it with contrast to 45 and color to 50, suprisingly, the IR is not worsen anymore...
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post Feb 21 2010, 01:43 AM

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Guys...i'm plasma user P42S10K, due to my room no air-con i patch cooling fan at the back
side of my plasma.. rclxm9.gif
i used 3 X 12v cooling fan....

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post Feb 21 2010, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(matyeo @ Feb 21 2010, 01:43 AM)
Guys...i'm plasma user P42S10K, due to my room no air-con i patch cooling fan at the back
side of my plasma..  rclxm9.gif
i used 3 X 12v cooling fan....
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post Feb 21 2010, 04:54 AM

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QUOTE(jitbeng @ Feb 6 2010, 07:47 PM)
But anyhow, from now on what I do is that after finished watching the TV for the night, I will "wash" it by setting the timer to 90 mins.

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For me its usually 10 min daily is more than enough at full brightness.

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post Feb 21 2010, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(matyeo @ Feb 21 2010, 01:43 AM)
Guys...i'm plasma user P42S10K, due to my room no air-con i patch cooling fan at the back
side of my plasma..  rclxm9.gif
i used 3 X 12v cooling fan....
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nice idea but the cooling fan suck out or blow in position ?
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post Feb 21 2010, 01:25 PM

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IR is not a problem as it is only temporary. However IR might becomes permanent burn-in if you keep the same static image on for prolong period like days.
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post Feb 21 2010, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Feb 21 2010, 01:25 PM)
IR is not a problem as it is only temporary.  However IR might becomes permanent burn-in if you keep the same static image on for prolong period like days.
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The IR that I mentioned is actually a static blurred black patches that only can be seen on standby mode in a total dark environment. This image is intact there permanently, however I thought it will get worsen after I've increased the contrast for the past few weeks, instead the image remain the same

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