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post Mar 11 2010, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Mar 11 2010, 09:43 AM)
Haha...same as another friend of mine telling me YTLP cannot move further as it has rally from 1.75 to 1.9x. Now he  doh.gif
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The story does not end here...My frend bought back at RM 2.15 doh.gif
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post Mar 11 2010, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Mar 11 2010, 08:50 AM)
The story does not end here...My frend bought back at RM 2.15  doh.gif
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Well, a lot of time is like this. I remember Sapcres was at 1.40 one time and my friend ask me to sell it because it has already rally 0.70 to 1.40, but he bought it at 2.x. I was like shocking.gif because that is when I start selling
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post Mar 11 2010, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Mar 11 2010, 09:52 AM)
Well, a lot of time is like this. I remember Sapcres was at 1.40 one time and my friend ask me to sell it because it has already rally 0.70 to 1.40, but he bought it at 2.x. I was like  shocking.gif because that is when I start selling
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But don get me wrong too. I stopped buying ytlpower since last year. At the moment i just keep neutral on this counter.
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post Mar 15 2010, 03:19 AM

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So was this the reason for the recent price run up. hmm.gif


Four Companies Selected To Rehabilitate Klang River


KLANG, March 13 (Bernama) -- The Selangor government has selected four companies to carry out the Klang River rehabilitation and development project, which is part of the state's economic stimulus package, unveiled last year.

Menteri Besar Tan Sri Abdul Khalid Ibrahim said the three companies, TSS-Mako Engineering Sdn Bhd, GJA Engineering Sdn Bhd and Wessex Water I-Bhd Consortium were chosen from among 37 companies.

Meanwhile, DPZ Asia Sdn Bhd was selected to design and plan the project given its wide experience not only in Malaysia but also in Vietnam, China, New Zealand and the United States.

Speaking at a press conference on the sidelines of the Klang River Carnival at Taman Pengkalan Batu here, he said the three companies were financially strong and were experienced in river cleaning and development.

He said TSS Mako would work closely with Handong Engineering & Construction Co Ltd, Korea Engineering Consultants Corporation and Yooshin Engineering Corporation of South Korea.

The companies were previously involved in various water projects including South Han River Maintenance, Seoul-Incheon Navigation Channel Project and Gemalink Container Terminal Project Phase One in Vietnam.

Meanwhile, GJA a Bumiputera company, designed and built several projects for the Education Ministry in Malaysia while Wessex Water, which was acquired by YTL Power supplys water and sewerage treatment in South West England.

It will team up with I-Bhd, the developer of the RM2.0 billion digital i-city project in Shah Alam for this river rehabilitation project.

"This is a public-private partnerhip, where senior and technical representatives of each of the three companies will form the Klang River Rehabilitation and Development Project Secretariat with the Selangor state government," he added.

He said the RM1 billion would be spent in development cost while another RM1.0 billion would be spent on cleaning and rehabilitating the river.

The government has gazetted 50 metres from the river as a "river reserve" to prevent any new development or settlement along the 120 kilometre-long river.

The initial stage of the project would take between two to three years to complete while the entire project will be developed in about 15 years.

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post Mar 15 2010, 08:35 AM

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Wah at last some news of their water ventures. Though its not very specific yet what they are suppose to do.
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post Mar 15 2010, 09:04 AM

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yeah, unless u are insider, u cant know what is the profit margin of the project YTL can get.
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post Mar 18 2010, 06:16 AM

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Does it still advisable to buy this stock? Am still looking for the right stock as my first trade. sweat.gif
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post Mar 18 2010, 07:19 AM

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QUOTE(kamemada @ Mar 18 2010, 06:16 AM)
Does it still advisable to buy this stock? Am still looking for the right stock as my first trade.  sweat.gif
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For very long term + stable dividends, YTLPOWER still buyable especially after some reduction of share price after the recent dividend ex-date.

I suggest you read up more about the business though before buying. Can't really suggest a stock to you unless we know your risk level and expected return.

Good luck on your first purchase, and PM panasonic88 when you buy, she is always interested in "virgin" stock buyers. haha rclxms.gif
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PM panasonic88 when you buy, she is always interested in "virgin" stock buyers. haha 

eh? why is that? lol.

btw, YTLPOWR has been on my watchlist for about 3 month now.
im more of a long-term trader. seeking at least 15% a year.

OOT;
other than this, probably one of the REITs. still looking for the other 1-2 more.


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post Mar 18 2010, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(kamemada @ Mar 18 2010, 09:05 AM)
eh? why is that? lol.

btw, YTLPOWR has been on my watchlist for about 3 month now.
im more of a long-term trader. seeking at least 15% a year.

OOT;
other than this, probably one of the REITs. still looking for the other 1-2 more.
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15% return from YTLPOWER every year? I doubt that hmm.gif 10% still achieveable.
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Mar 18 2010, 08:12 AM)
15% return from YTLPOWER every year? I doubt that  hmm.gif 10% still achieveable.
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Haha my bad. 15% was actually as a whole. Not just YTLPOWR. 10% huh? Looks promising.
May I know the current Fair Price? Thanks.
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post Mar 18 2010, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(kamemada @ Mar 18 2010, 10:13 AM)
Haha my bad. 15% was actually as a whole. Not just YTLPOWR. 10% huh? Looks promising.
May I know the current Fair Price? Thanks.
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My fair price and Skid fair price are not the same too. Its all depend on the value we can see from that company.
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post Mar 18 2010, 09:47 AM

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Ok noted. Thanks.

Am still digesting on the calc for fair price. It looks simple but I guess I am really bad in math. lol.
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Mar 18 2010, 07:19 AM)
For very long term + stable dividends, YTLPOWER still buyable especially after some reduction of share price after the recent dividend ex-date.

I suggest you read up more about the business though before buying. Can't really suggest a stock to you unless we know your risk level and expected return.

Good luck on your first purchase, and PM panasonic88 when you buy, she is always interested in "virgin" stock buyers. haha  rclxms.gif
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The price plunged from 10sen from 2.28 to 2.18 on 12-Mar. Is it due to the warrant exercise announced on the same day? thanks.
LISTING'S CIRCULAR NO. L/Q : 56311 OF 2010Kindly be advised that the abovementioned Companys additional 11,934,201 newordinary shares of RM0.50 each arising from the aforesaid Exercise will begranted listing and quotation with effect from 9.00 a.m., Monday, 15 March2010.

I am thinking to top-up some for long term keeping.
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QUOTE(ooyah98 @ Mar 18 2010, 09:52 AM)
The price plunged from 10sen from 2.28 to 2.18 on 12-Mar. Is it due to the warrant exercise announced on the same day? thanks.
LISTING'S CIRCULAR NO. L/Q :  56311 OF  2010Kindly be advised that the abovementioned Companys additional 11,934,201  newordinary shares of RM0.50 each arising from the aforesaid Exercise will begranted listing and quotation with effect from 9.00 a.m.,  Monday, 15 March2010.

I am thinking to top-up some for long term keeping.
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Nah small amount of warrant exercise normally don't shake the share much. YTLPOWER shares normally go through a cycle of ups and downs according to EPF dumping and buying activities. If there is no reason it is up, most likely later it will come down. It's quite straightforward for this counter. In my opinion anyway.


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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Mar 18 2010, 03:28 PM)
Nah small amount of warrant exercise normally don't shake the share much. YTLPOWER shares normally go through a cycle of ups and downs according to EPF dumping and buying activities. If there is no reason it is up, most likely later it will come down. It's quite straightforward for this counter. In my opinion anyway.
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Skidd, thanks smile.gif

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post Mar 20 2010, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(ooyah98 @ Mar 18 2010, 11:01 PM)
Skidd, thanks smile.gif
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KUALA LUMPUR: RAM Ratings says YTL POWER INTERNATIONAL BHD []'s (YTLPI) move to roll out its RM2.5 billion worldwide interoperability for microwave access (WiMAX) network is quite unexpected.  The rating agency said on Thursday, March 11 this was not in line with its track record of investing in long-term concession assets with stable and sustainable cashflow.  "Although RAM Ratings is less sanguine about the group venturing into a non-concession-based business, we note that YTLPI’s power and water concession assets will remain its major cashflow contributors," it said.  YTLPI's subsidiaries are in power generation, water and sewerage services, electricity transmission and telecommunications.  The ratings agency said while the group will be viewed to have a more aggressive risk appetite if it deviates further from its strategy of only investing in concession-based utility and infrastructure assets, "we note that the management has been circumspect in its investment decisions and has demonstrated good acumen in business execution thus far".  RAM Ratings, meanwhile, reaffirmed the AA1 ratings of YTLPI’s RM2 billion commercial papers/medium-term notes programme (2007/2014) (CP/MTN) and RM2.2 billion serial redeemable bonds (2008/2013); long-term ratings have a stable outlook.  It also reaffirmed the P1 rating of the YTLPI’s CP/MTN. The ratings remain supported by the group’s robust business profile stemming from its regulated asset base, particularly its investments in power and water-sewerage services via its unit YTL Power Generation Sdn Bhd (YTLPG) in Malaysia, PowerSeraya Ltd (PowerSeraya) in Singapore and Wessex Water Ltd (WWL) in the United Kingdom (UK).  In this regard, WWL has maintained its position as one of the most efficient water and sewerage-services companies in the UK. At the power-generation end, YTLPG has been able to achieve an availability level of around 90% for the past six years; PowerSeraya exhibits a strong operating performance, underscored by its availability of about 88% as at end-March 2009.  "Nonetheless, the group’s capital structure remained constrained by its hefty debt burden of RM22.92 billion as at end-December 2009, with a corresponding net gearing ratio of 2.02 times. However, most of these debts are parked under core subsidiaries that generate stable cashflow," it said.  RAM Ratings said YTLPI had healthy debt-protection measures; its company-level adjusted operating cashflow debt coverage (OCFDC) ratio was 0.28 times as at end-June 2009.  Based on RAM Ratings’ cashflow analysis, YTLPI’s OCFDC ratio is projected to range around 0.17–0.25 times throughout the tenures of YTLPI’s debt issues.


Dear Fellow YTLPOWER fans (we are too small to be consider as shareholders so i use fans) laugh.gif

Base on my observation, YTLPOWER will 99.99% constantly giving out good dividends in time to come due to their high debts. As they normally use shares to exchange with dued bonds... So if they don give good yields the bond issuers will not take up the offer then. That is base on my own observations only. So i am quite sure that we don face an issue of inconsistent yield unless there are sudden tax impose by the government on that quarters. Correct me if wrong. notworthy.gif

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post Mar 21 2010, 04:20 AM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Mar 19 2010, 07:48 PM)
Dear Fellow YTLPOWER fans (we are too small to be consider as shareholders so i use fans)  laugh.gif

Base on my observation, YTLPOWER will 99.99% constantly giving out good dividends in time to come due to their high debts. As they normally use shares to exchange with dued bonds... So if they don give good yields the bond issuers will not take up the offer then. That is base on my own observations only. So i am quite sure that we don face an issue of inconsistent yield unless there are sudden tax impose by the government on that quarters. Correct me if wrong.  notworthy.gif
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Bond issuers if I am not mistaken get a fixed return when they are due after X number of years. I don't think they are affected by Div allocations or issue bonds based on past and future div.

Just a layman's view. Maybe a bond expert can clarify. tongue.gif

Mat bond, James bond any one out there? laugh.gif

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post Mar 21 2010, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(calmwater @ Mar 21 2010, 05:20 AM)
Bond issuers if I am not mistaken get a fixed return when they are due after X number of years. I don't think they are affected by Div allocations or issue bonds based on past and future div.

Just a layman's view. Maybe a bond expert can clarify. tongue.gif

Mat bond, James bond any one out there? laugh.gif
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Yup they will collect their return after X number of years. But normally when the bonds are dued don you discover that normally YTLPOWER will exchange the bonds with number of issued shares instead of paying back the amount being borrowed? Thats what i meant by they have to maintain good dividend else the issuer might not take up the offer.
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This is a good dividend rate stock plus stable company, cab keep for long term.


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