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 YTL POWER INTERNATIONAL, VERSION 2

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post Nov 12 2010, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(June_llk @ Nov 12 2010, 04:07 PM)
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No right or wrong i think. Only time can tell. Like i said i might be wrong but the main reason i sell off my ytlp not mainly becos of their venture into wimax but the way they do things.


Added on November 12, 2010, 7:53 pm
QUOTE(ost1007 @ Nov 12 2010, 07:07 PM)
YTL Power have good prospect. Worth to invest.  rclxms.gif
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I remember last time you said that YTLP have no future and now you say different thing again. Because of the share price went up = worth to invest? Is it the way how you do investment? doh.gif

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post Nov 16 2010, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(KenYoung @ Nov 15 2010, 05:56 PM)
where got anything  mad.gif  bluff me only is it  doh.gif

anyway, assuming i buy the YTLP-CB short term...... buy fast sell fast, no intentions of changing to mother stock, it doesnt really matters to me right?

how do i check a validity or expiry of a warrant?
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lol. the funniest joke i ever heard since i joined lowyat. thumbup.gif

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post Nov 16 2010, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Nov 16 2010, 02:41 PM)
lol yala darknight81, skid put me on table, grrr!!  vmad.gif

KenYoung even PM me, lao... take it so seriously  doh.gif
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He really mentioned that he is "VIRGIN STOCK BUYER"? hmm.gif

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post Nov 18 2010, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Nov 18 2010, 05:02 PM)
Hi skidd,

do you know when YTLP gonna announce Q report?
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Should be either today or tomorrow.
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post Nov 18 2010, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Nov 18 2010, 05:10 PM)
Potentially with special div biggrin.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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Ya ya special dividend like last quarter 0.1875 cents mad.gif vmad.gif

Reasons simple they just not willing to share the profit with minority shareholders doh.gif

Geram for quite sometimes already. vmad.gif

Will join you guys some where at RM 2.30 tongue.gif

Enjoying reading My arreit 2009 annual report now. I requested on monday they pos laju to me and today receive liaw thumbup.gif

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post Nov 21 2010, 06:38 AM

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QUOTE(calmwater @ Nov 21 2010, 04:59 AM)
The following was actually the funny part, from yesterday's news:

"Prior to the launch, Yes 4G faced interconnectivity issues with other networks as it was unable to interconnect with the operators. However, the group managed to sign interconnectivity agreements with them yesterday.

We're now finally interconnected with everybody rclxms.gif . We have received full cooperation (from other telcos), Seok Hong said, adding that other operators had welcomed them onboard." icon_rolleyes.gif

So what are they trying to say? They want to fight their rivals or steal their business with their co-operation? laugh.gif

All along I was under the impression, wireless broadband was what they will promote the most and cross swords with P1, but most of press release recently is on lower cell phone calling rates. Which means their rivals are the established Telcos.  rclxub.gif

Want to start a price war with them? sweat.gif  A lot of the base stations they are using belong to TM, so they cannot openly challenge this Kawan and now they sign agreements with the other Telcos for interconnectivity in use of mobile phones, so also cannot challenge this whole group of kawan-kawan. wub.gif

Are they getting lost in a wireless jungle? laugh.gif
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I still clear of the reasons why i picked YTLP last time. It is because of their slow and steady growth in water and power sector. Since their venture into wimax, i had ask myself to stop pumping into this counter.

What more to say recently the share price has appreciated. I preferred to sell off 100% and stay sideline instead.

$$$ is more important to me than anything else.

As a minority investor, dividend ($$) is more important than anything else. No matter how the management on how good it is on wimax is just on paper to me. How sure you can reap the profit out of it?

Always remember we are the minority shareholders. Don't expect too much biggrin.gif
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post Nov 22 2010, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(calmwater @ Nov 22 2010, 10:45 AM)
You mean to say the Div will get affected going forward?
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That one i am not sure. But i know that the dividend has been going down for the past 2 years. 13 cents only.
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post Nov 29 2010, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(ost1007 @ Nov 28 2010, 11:37 PM)
Hi bro, don't worry. This is due to YTL management coverted warrant to its mother share. Since the management have confident on its company growth, as an investor, what are you worry about?
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Anyway, I have no money in. The CB look very attractive to me now. 0.22 X 2 + 2.15
Mother share stand 2.5 strongly.
If I have money i will in this warrant. However, need to be cautious on korea and north korea war...If situation not right, please cut lose.
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I am not into this. But i believe CB is some sort of call warrant which is being issued by third party maybe CIMB investment bank and so on. Not issued by YTL.

If you believe that YTL are fundamentally strong why cut loss due to korean war? You should buy more instead.
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post Nov 29 2010, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Nov 29 2010, 01:48 PM)
It's been some time since I visited lowyat forum. So how are you darkknight? Still piling up on YTL power for the good prospect of YES launching or disposing them afraid the dividend yield might not be as attractive before?

Anyway, strong performance for YTL Power today despite the red CI.
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I hold zero ytlp SHARES tongue.gif No more piling up
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post Nov 30 2010, 08:53 PM

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Like i said before it is some sort of profit taking as my average buying price only RM 2.00 excluding dividend. I earned more than RM 500 per lot.

I have profited around 100k from YTLP. I have parked my money at arreit to get higher dividend. wink.gif Doesn't meant arreit is better than ytlp.
YTLP yield less than 6% at my selling price. Whereas arreit yield around 8%. Although i am not sure of the future prospect of wimax but at least i am sure that i get higher dividend.

Who say i don want to buy YTLP? I want to use my dividend earned to buy back at a lower price only tongue.gif

By the way i am not experience investor. I am not qualified as an investor either. Normally i don try to predict on particular stock price movement, what i am more concern is Dividend Yield.

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post Dec 1 2010, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Dec 1 2010, 03:48 PM)
Ok, but I'm sure you will keep this stock sideline and be prepared to jump in if the price dip lower.  tongue.gif

Btw, the exercising of the warrants "Kindly be advised that the abovementioned Company’s additional 12,785,070 new ordinary shares of RM0.50 each arising from the aforesaid Exercise will be granted listing and quotation with effect from 9.00 a.m., Friday, 3 December 2010" does drives this YTL Power down a bit.


Added on December 1, 2010, 2:52 pm

REIT seems to be a good options for you to reap dividend. But don't expect too much capital gain. It's a mutual exclusive thingy, stock with growing potential has little dividends to offer while stock with dividends to offer has very little growth potential.

List of REITs in Malaysia with dividend yield.
http://mreit.reitdata.com/
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I doubt it laugh.gif Will only consider buy back when it dips below RM 2.20 due to reasons below:

1. Pound depreciation
2. EPS diluted due to warrant conversion. (Ventured into wimax with those cash being raised with so many ??? being raised was not fair for us)
3. Renewal of new PPAs with Tenaga so far no news.
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post Dec 3 2010, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(ost1007 @ Dec 3 2010, 01:15 AM)
Then you have to wait until next economic crisis or market consolidation smile.gif


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You are safe trader. smile.gif Let's see how, I bought because of YTLPower future. You left because of its current dividend yield is less than 6% of your selling price. Next 2 quarters report can tell everything.
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I am neither a trader nor investor. I just want to make sure my investment give me a good yield. YTLP gave me almost 50% return within 3 years should be quite ok for me already. Instead of collecting 5 -6% yield. I prefer to go for higher yield.

If you are really going for long term, you should buy at below RM 2.20 not now brother. doh.gif
For long term should buy on weakness instead of buy on strength. My own opinion lol

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post Dec 5 2010, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(calmwater @ Dec 4 2010, 11:32 AM)
Look into singapore Reit's as well. With the two casino's doing very well, their tourist arrivals are on the rise. Starhill Global (YTL subsidiary) has a large part of it's investments on two malls at Orchard Road. brows.gif
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Thanks calm. notworthy.gif
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post Dec 6 2010, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(leiwulong90 @ Dec 6 2010, 03:30 PM)
How the f*** did you get a ROI of 50% when the dividend yield is 5 to 6%???????
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Two questions from me.


1. Do you know such thing as "CAPITAL GAIN" pls refer to dictionary. wink.gif

2. Who ask you to buy at current price? I start to buy at the price of RM 1.80



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post Jan 3 2011, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(kchong @ Jan 3 2011, 01:29 AM)
Bro, no right or wrong here and certainly don't need to say sorry just because our investment styles are different. 7% is indeed significant but when we take into consideration dividend paid by other counters they almost come to the same eventually with perhaps maybe a small percentage difference. As I analyze and contrast hundreds of stocks in Bursa, it's too time consuming counting to the last decimal points.

Syariah compliant stocks only for you I guess?
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Finally you understand "investment style are differents". We have chosen not to reply your previous post not becos you are right. Just that i think it is wasting my effort. I believe same goes for Skid taikor as well. Finally you have grown up. laugh.gif Congrats.

I have choosen YTLP just becos it suited me and i have sold off all my YTLP at around RM 2.6+. I started to accumulate YTLP since RM 1.80.

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post Jan 8 2011, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jan 8 2011, 09:33 AM)
Brother,

Congratulation.

I believe you have done the right thing.

Invest at your own comfort , according to your own risk level. I believe many financial planners out there  would advise you the same.

Do not have to follow other people targets as your own targets. You are just you, so long you know and understand what you are doing and setting your plans and goals to achieve.

Surely there are many out have done much better than us, but that is not the main issue. We need to  learn how to outperform own selves, the enemy within us.

Wish you all the best always.
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Thanks Bro,

Er... Right or not i am not sure lol. Only time will tell. Yup, i invest at my own comfort.

One thing for sure is if i follow your stock pick i cannot sleep well at night. But it does not means that you are wrong.

You will not follow my stock pick as well as u will feel damn boring. laugh.gif

I hold zero YTLP at the moment. However i still like its diversified utilities business globally. Just that i am not comfortable with their wimax venture.
Planning to buy back at a lower price.

At the moment holding ARREIT and KPJ REIT only.

Alll the best for your investment ya. Some of your stock picks like Mitra has appreciated icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jan 13 2011, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(calmwater @ Jan 13 2011, 10:54 PM)
YTLPOWR seems to have stabilized at current level. Historically speaking it is a good sign. Don't expect much from WiMAX for the time being, until picture is clearer.

Power Seraya could provide a major upward surprise for this counter. Some very good signs over there. Considering it is their largest investment to date, it could very well propel this counter upwards in the coming months.

Will start to slowly nibble a bit. But not much. Getting more and more difficult to analyse this stock.
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Was thinking of what to buy next. Maybe we should nibble some YTLP wink.gif
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post Feb 25 2011, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(calmwater @ Feb 25 2011, 06:14 AM)
Take it easy. Markets everywhere shaking from rising price of oil, turmoil in middle east.

Quarterly results are out and a littlie lower than last quarter. Currently the p/e (about 18) looking rather high. Further downside risk. YES also no indication of much success. High cost involved. Stay on the sidelines not a bad idea.

As I have said before this counter is becoming more and more difficult to analyse. Lucky for YTLPOWER has not invested in JORDAN as yet. If investment had already gone in, today can cry. laugh.gif
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Slowly accumulate using my dividend from REITS tongue.gif

Luckily i sold off all my YTLPs during its bull run.


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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Feb 25 2011, 12:08 PM)
Slowly accumulate using my dividend from REITS  tongue.gif

Luckily i sold off all my YTLPs during its bull run.

They tried to diversified into other businesses at very short period of time.

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post Mar 30 2011, 03:29 PM

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Bought 110,000 YTLP SHARES BY SOLD OFF 300,000 of my arreit
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Mar 30 2011, 04:51 PM)
Welcome back to YTLP bro darkknight. Why suddenly jump back to YTL? Thought you don't really like the risk exposure when YTLP ventured into Yes 4g and the oilshaling..
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Bought another 40,000 units. 150,000 units now tongue.gif

Six sense told me i must enter now tongue.gif

152,000 units finally icon_rolleyes.gif

Exit at RM 2.54 AVERAGE. Now buying back at around RM 2.29. Earned extra 10,000 units ytlp

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