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 YTL POWER INTERNATIONAL, VERSION 2

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post Aug 18 2010, 08:16 AM

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http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM.../shitx/Article/

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WESSEX Water plc, the British unit of YTL Power International Bhd, has started testing a Volkswagen Beetle car that is being powered by gas from human waste.

It is the first such test being done in the UK.

"Waste flushed down toilets of just 70 homes in Bristol is enough to power the Bio-Bug for a year, based on an annual mileage of 10,000 miles," the British firm said in a statement posted on its website.

GENeco, a Wessex Water-owned company, imported specialist equipment to treat gas generated at Bristol sewage treatment works in Avonmouth to power the VW Beetle in a way that does not affect its performance.

GENeco general manager Mohammed Saddiq said that methane from sewage sludge can be used as an alternative energy source, and is an innovative way of powering company vehicles.

"We decided to power a vehicle on the gas, offering a sustainable alternative to using fossil fuels. If you were to drive the car, you wouldn't know it was powered by biogas as it performs just like any conventional car. It is probably the most sustainable car around," he said.

To use biogas without affecting vehicle performance, the gas needs to be treated under a process called biogas upgrading. Carbon dioxide will be separated from the biogas using special equipment.

If all the biogas produced at Avonmouth were converted to run cars, it would prevent the emission of around 19,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide.

Mohammed said that while waste flushed down the toilets in homes in the city provides power for the Bio-Bug, it will not be long before further energy can also be produced from food waste recycled at its sewage works.

"It will mean that both human waste and food waste will be put to good use in a sustainable way that diverts waste from going to landfills," he said.

YTL bought Wessex in 2002 for US$1.7 billion (RM5.35 billion) from Azurix Europe Ltd, a unit of bankrupt energy trader Enron Corp.

Read more: YTL UK unit tests sewage as alternative energy source http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM.../#ixzz0wubsM6MM
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post Aug 20 2010, 08:15 AM

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Too bad dividend only 3.75% sad.gif
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post Aug 20 2010, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(Superman7 @ Aug 20 2010, 09:47 AM)
probably reserving the cash to power up the Wimax..
seems like the main concentration now is on Wimax. Read some news saying that YTL comm will be spending 2.5b on the roll out of the Wimax (inclusive of IP calling) towards 4th Qtr. Obviously the 2.5b is coming from internal since YTLP is cash rich anyway..
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Their EPS was 6 cents. Translates into whole year EPS of 24 cents if it is sustainable.
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post Oct 13 2010, 07:44 AM

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http://www.ytlcommunity.com/commnews/shown...sp?newsid=56229
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post Oct 21 2010, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(calmwater @ Oct 21 2010, 11:18 AM)
Dear Saint Amanda 69,

Before you accuse others, are you 100% clean? hmm.gif

We are all sinners. Some big, some small. whistling.gif 

While we want others to forgive us, we want to be unforgiving? wink.gif

By the way this forum was started by Darkknight 81. Leaving a message for him here is like calling him at his home. laugh.gif
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lol. No comment tongue.gif

By the way just for sharing, EPF has been slowing accumulating YTLP shares lately.

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post Oct 21 2010, 11:00 AM

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post Oct 21 2010, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(calmwater @ Oct 21 2010, 07:54 PM)
Thanks for sharing. Currently not holding ytlp, but still follow the news.
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Still holding the WB? lol too bad i sold off all my ytlp-wb around 60 - 70 cents.
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post Oct 22 2010, 09:55 PM

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http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...15&sec=business
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post Oct 24 2010, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Oct 22 2010, 11:02 PM)
Hi darkknight, how are your stocks doing at the moment? Seems like recently keep up up up biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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My portfolio as usual only lol. Maintain green. tongue.gif
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post Oct 27 2010, 04:42 PM

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http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html

Skidd taikor any comments on YTLP latest move?


http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...71&sec=business

http://www.ytlcommunity.com/commnews/shown...sp?newsid=56560

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post Oct 28 2010, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Oct 27 2010, 09:38 PM)
Dark,

His interview sounds like he is about to unleash a game changing service where everyone will go oooh and ahhhh. So it's kind of hard not to be a bit skeptical about it since there isn't much details about it. I've never thought much about the telco service unless you are the major player, and I can't see it as a utility business. Since beginning I've never been a fan of their WiMax venture, but then from the scant details we have here and there, seems their costs are manageble and should not affect their profit margins. If this works as he envisioned it will be and not fail like Green Packet, then it will be a bonus. Other than that, I'm not really excited about it.  yawn.gif

If Nov 18 comes and they unveil something that can match Streamyx internet in terms of price, availability and consistancy of service on top of offering mobile phone service that has cheaper data package like Maxis and DIGI and hybrid TV like Astro. I will be very surprised, even shockingly surprised. Because that seems to be what he is promising with the roll-out. So far have not heard of any integrated service like that in Malaysia or Singapore. Don't know if Japan/Korea has this kind of service and the sustainability of it.  rclxub.gif
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Thanks notworthy.gif

One thing for sure is ytl e solution will be sure win as they only provide technical service.

Whereas for YTLP will be the main loser if this wimax, hybrid TV, voice services failed...As they are the source of funding for all of these roll out. Bara aktif the 40% YTL COMM. will be their sleeping partner only.
Just wonder in term of profit sharing, will it be 40% and YTLP 60%?
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The way i look at it YTLP is the main loser...

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Oct 28 2010, 03:52 PM)
Oh yeah talking about YTL-E, my dealer was telling me there was a rumour about it being privatised. That was last week I think and asked me to keep an eye for it. I'm not much of a rumour person so I didn't pay much attention. First time hearing a rumour from my dealer.
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The way i look at it is like similar with RPT eventhough it may not looks alike.
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QUOTE(calmwater @ Oct 30 2010, 10:22 AM)
YTL-e few years ago was only about 14 sen. After wimax license and all this promises, is currently 10 times more. With hardly any revenue to show to date, this stock could be no different from those dot com bubble stocks. Buyer beware!!

When the dice is rolled (Nov 18), the bare naked truth will be out. If there is substance to the story, well and good. If not .........
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The way i look at it neither ytlp nor ytl-e is a good pick....

Everything seems not clear...

Don't have faith on Francis Yeoh anymore.

Being starting to sell off my ytlp recently to take some profit instead. Any stocks to recommend ka brother?

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post Nov 9 2010, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Nov 9 2010, 10:45 AM)
Why if a stock trading below IPO it is good?  hmm.gif  Meaning Msports and all those China IPO also good?


Added on November 9, 2010, 9:46 am

Still holding mine as long as the div can sustain. Don't think I can find any other suitable div counter to replace it as of now.
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Actually i am still holding mine as well. Just that i did sell off some of it. Just that don't know when i will completely sell off all my ytlp biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(June_llk @ Nov 9 2010, 04:17 PM)
Not just the results...is the future potential, tried YES 4G, speed is 5-6Mbps with 018 number..

Next counter to look is ECS... biggrin.gif  exclusive distributor for YES products..low P/E, low gearing...
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June,

i agree with you maybe on the potential. But think deeper who benefits most from this venture? Is it us the minority shareholders?

The answer is certainly not... Its is baraaktif who didn't came out with single cents, its Yeoh's Family from YTLE....

Correct me if wrong. I just analyse it in business perspective.

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Guys sorry have to say good bye to you all sad.gif Take care. I will came back one day icon_rolleyes.gif

Oh... YTLP maybe you climb a little bit high today. Should come down. Don be notty. Papa waiting for you here. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Nov 9 2010, 04:47 PM)
sad.gif  to see you leave darkknight81, but  rclxms.gif  you made your profits!
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In my mind never think of selling my YTLP. Really becos of this wimax.....


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QUOTE(June_llk @ Nov 9 2010, 04:52 PM)
This is just the beginning of rally.... darkknight probably get a mil profit..

Do you know about Bara Aktif? Who told you that only YTL only come out to fund the project?

Anyway good luck.. remember to get your Yes ID and number...

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Thats y i said maybe i was wrong. Frankly speaking i just speculate.
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QUOTE(ante5k @ Nov 9 2010, 05:01 PM)
darkknight, selling off all your ytlp?
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Yes. 100% stocks cleared.
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post Nov 12 2010, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(June_llk @ Nov 12 2010, 11:14 AM)
To those warriors who lose confidence on YTLPI, let me give you a diff perspective...

YES is different from P1 because it offers both voice and data in a same package.

Means don't need to pay separate bill for internet and phone. and next year would be pay TV.

Overseas call with be like local call. YES can also be used in oversea, using third party broadband speed but call is still local call...

How many potential subscribers in Malaysia and around the world?

Digi has c. 8 mil subscribers...

Just say 1 mil subscribers at average fee is RM100

1 year is RM1.2bil, assume margin is 40% then profit is about RM500mil. Can it become the next Digi? I think yes. LTE a threat? Not so soon, all just talk. Talk is always easy.

In a nut shell, Yeoh don't do losing money business. TP: RM4.00 biggrin.gif
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I know about these we can read it from newspaper lol. As i told you previously my main concern is not here. It is more to the transparency of all these wimax ventures.

I have few questions in my mind.

1. If YTLP can buy over YTLCOMM. Why not YTL e? I mean before all these announcement. Why they want to use ytle services?
How much ytle are going to charge ytlp?

2. YTLP is pouring in 2.5billion. Is it 2.5billion only?

How about bara aktif? They are owning 40% out of it...How is the profit sharing in future?

I don have any economics degree i am from technical side. But i feel that you cannot just see everything on paper in investment. You need to look out of the box.

Many things still unclear....

I don want to invest in a counter with so many doubts.

Thats y i prefer to take profit and stay sideline. It is nothing about success or failure of wimax but the transparency....

I park my money all in arreit. At least i can constantly get RM 7k dividend every 3 months. If YTLP go belows RM 2.40 I can buy back anytime.

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