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bernama7
post Jan 2 2010, 09:19 PM

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achew: thanks..need your advice. if i use iso1600, that should solve under expose?
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post Jan 2 2010, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(bernama7 @ Jan 2 2010, 09:07 PM)
after waiting 2 hours at danga bay this evening (becouse raining)

C & C are most welcome....

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Exposure:  0.067 sec (1/15)
Aperture:  f/6.3
Focal Length: 16 mm
ISO Speed: 800
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u could just tweak the exposure in Photoshop to make it brighter...
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post Jan 2 2010, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(freddy manson @ Jan 2 2010, 02:34 PM)
the manual is written to simple and i cant really get it after reading it twice (enuff la twice, later2 baru read again)
i'm in the process of trying but the problem is i cant get them to work together..
i.e if i use the MZ45 on the body (mounted) then it'll work..
but when i put the MZ45 and F42/36 they didnt fire.. even if i mounted F42.. (maybe mau F58? aiyaaa)

i got 2 unit for the price of 1 F42  brows.gif
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hahaha unless it is in korean, then i cant help u. hahahaha. btw, sony's flash must trigger with specific "trigger pattern" flash only sony can do it. they are not optical trigger-able.

for the MZ series, i have totally no diea, check if they are optical trigger-able, then it is very easy to learn already

QUOTE(Wonka @ Jan 2 2010, 04:03 PM)
Has anyone been to Bali before? Im going next month la. Just wanted to know what kinda places should I visit? Im going for 4d 3n. smile.gif Oh and kinda lens should I bring along ah? Only 11-18 and 50mm would do right? biggrin.gif
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u need tele at the beach tongue.gif seriously, 50 wont do any good.
leave the 50 at home... u going to shot day time more... even night, u wan to shot wide... bring a kitlens, and UWA.

day time, the tele can give u bokeh effect smile.gif

for night shoot, very depending u wanted to walk out or not, most people stay inside the resort only at night, maybe some beach dinner shooting, use flash
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post Jan 2 2010, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(ieR @ Jan 2 2010, 09:26 PM)
hahaha unless it is in korean, then i cant help u. hahahaha. btw, sony's flash must trigger with specific "trigger pattern" flash only sony can do it. they are not optical trigger-able.

for the MZ series, i have totally no diea, check if they are optical trigger-able, then it is very easy to learn already


no idea? he he same here. wana google for it later.. let me try and try every setting that's available..
u're fluent in korea? wow that good..
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QUOTE(Wonka @ Jan 2 2010, 04:03 PM)
Has anyone been to Bali before? Im going next month la. Just wanted to know what kinda places should I visit? Im going for 4d 3n. smile.gif Oh and kinda lens should I bring along ah? Only 11-18 and 50mm would do right? biggrin.gif
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4D 3N tada syiok lar. U effectively get 2 days oni coz 1st n 4th day is moving around to n from airport. Nice places like Phuket n Bali u shud do at least a 7 day trip. Then u can rent a motorbike n really explore the place.
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post Jan 2 2010, 10:25 PM

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one of my first few firework shots..

quite blur since i only had my 50mm so shoot..

any pointers on how to shoot fireworks? (ie. what lens, aperture,shutter speed)...
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jan 2 2010, 10:25 PM)
quite blur since i only had my 50mm so shoot..

any pointers on how to shoot fireworks? (ie. what lens, aperture,shutter speed)...
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using 50mm to shot fireworks? haiya.. not suitable enuff la that.. ma fren..

have a look at this article:

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Q : I heard people use blackcards to block lenses during firework shoots, what do they do and how to use them?

A : Blackcards are to make your fireworks look sharp and to select the patterns you wanna "paint" in your image.

If you leave your lens to capture all the wobbly movements of the trails in the sky, do you think they'd ever look sharp? Therefore, it's best to use blackcards to take "snapshots" of the trails, making the overall image look sharper which is expecially important during the "explosion".

The 2nd usage of a blackcard is to block out patterns that you don't want in a display. If you have too many firework images stacked on each other at the same area of an image, you will get massive overexposure of those areas and the image will look very messy.

But do note that once you decide to use the blackcard, your effective "shutterspeed" decreases as you are not allowing any light to reach the lens when you block it with a blackcard, messing up with your background exposure.

Q : I hear people use bulb mode to shoot fireworks, why?

A : Combined with the blackcard, BULB allows maximum creative control.

Sounds fancy, innit?

Right... BULB is useful as we as photographers normally have no idea how the fireworks display will go, when will which burst go up and where.

Thus, combined with the blackcard and us counting the actual exposure time, we can get only the patterns we want on an image and the exact background exposure that we want as well.

more on this article: How To Shoot Fireworks



Added on January 2, 2010, 10:43 pm
QUOTE(ianho @ Jan 2 2010, 10:07 PM)
4D 3N tada syiok lar. U effectively get 2 days oni coz 1st n 4th day is moving around to n from airport. Nice places like Phuket n Bali u shud do at least a 7 day trip. Then u can rent a motorbike n really explore the place.
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its okay la that uncle, nextime can go again and explore more.. it's 'makan angin' and later baru go 'makan-makan and cari angin' sweat.gif

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hey guys....alphanatic reporting from krabi , thailand... 5d4n trip.. smile.gif... should be awesome..will be returning tomorrow ....hope fr sum AWSEOME updates during the next week... hahahahh

gear brought :

50mm
70-300
18-70
f42
a300
cpl

wooooooooooooooooooooot....
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QUOTE(bernama7 @ Jan 2 2010, 09:19 PM)
achew: thanks..need your advice. if i use iso1600, that should solve under expose?
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u can use higher iso..or make the shutter speed longer if u have a tripod with u...
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QUOTE(achew @ Jan 2 2010, 11:05 PM)
u can use higher iso..or make the shutter speed longer if u have a tripod with u...
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how about he uses F5.6 then F6.3?
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if i hv no tripod..with me..probably i would sacrifice some aperture instead of pumping ISO since high iso isnt 1 of the sony selling point..if i have tripod with me..i always prefer longer shutter..play with manual exp maybe..?
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post Jan 2 2010, 11:29 PM

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neo_lam: i try already(MS picture, don have photoshop), but more noise.

achew: thanks again, i should use high iso. still shy to bring tripod at crowded place... blush.gif blush.gif

ieR: why i not step down to f5.6 doh.gif ...there is any side effect, like shallow DoF?

next time i should pick setting more carefully
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maybe u can upload ur RAW file to yousendit.com and we can help to to tweak here n there... =)
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post Jan 2 2010, 11:40 PM

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bernama7 : hey.. i found something i really2 looking for.. might be useful for you also..

PM's technique and tutorials thread..

and off course practice makes perfect... good luck.

http://www.photomalaysia.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=41
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post Jan 2 2010, 11:50 PM

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achew: i shoot in jpeg format.

nashakir: thanks. alot of topic, input..input..
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post Jan 2 2010, 11:51 PM

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hello everybody...one question, someone offer me RM1350 for used Tamron 1750 F2.8 with hoya filter for kitlens replacement (best price)...warranty expired already but he claim that his one is in superb condition(not lemon copy)..is it wort it..? what should i check during COD..? front/back focusing..? wobble tips..?
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mechaboy, go ahead and buy it..i sold mine for rm1400 last month smile.gif

freddy, oooo thanks for the tips, somehow blackcard method need alot practice to make good...sadly fireworks only allow us 10-13mins of practice...
oh here are my "wriggly" shot of the fireworks..
btw, can a remote shutter control the A550 for bulb mode?? i dont wanna touch my camera when the shutter is open..

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Added on January 3, 2010, 12:09 amps. how to NOT capture the smokes too?? teach me if its controllable??

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Nashakir: Pre-flash does fire, your eyes are just not fast enough. To prove this, put your camera in Shutter Priority, flash to Rear Sync Flash, F58 on TTL, and shutter speed at 5 seconds.

You should be able to clearly see the pre-flash happening.

You can then try covering the flash when you press the shutter, and then uncovering the flash within the 5 seconds - by blocking the pre-flash from hitting the subject, the camera will think "okay not enough power!" and overexpose the actual flash.

Banzai_san: 20 megabytes per second = 133x (20 megabytes per second / 150 kilobytes per second = 133x). So that is nothing new when it comes to CF cards!

bernama7: Use a longer shutter speed. And yes F5.6.

Wonka: I've never been to Bali but the 11-18mm, 50mm and a light tele would do. (Meaning a 55-200mm is good enough.) I've brought a flash before but end up never using it.

porkchop: The A550 has the remote control sensor at the handgrip.
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QUOTE(bernama7 @ Jan 2 2010, 11:29 PM)
neo_lam: i try already(MS picture, don have photoshop), but more noise.

achew: thanks again, i should use high iso. still shy to bring tripod at crowded place... blush.gif  blush.gif

ieR: why i not step down to f5.6 doh.gif ...there is any side effect, like shallow DoF?

next time i should pick setting more carefully
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erm i dont know, what was the zoom length? if not more then 50mm, at that infinity focus, i doubt u get bokeh on the boat.

but in photographer, there is a lot thing to learn and surprise u never thought of. for example, have u try shoot A boat(yea, A single boat) with the sea as BG, bokeh or not, up to u, but the smudge bokeh of sunset color on the sea could be really nice too.

explore around, when i started photography, i shoot every possible crazy idea i can think of, through that, i learn a lot of DO's and DONT's of good composition wink.gif

like how i shot over 60 shoot just one this one shot that i liked
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post Jan 3 2010, 12:37 AM

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albnok: noted

ieR: 16mm(24mm). i don know at infinity focus..no bokeh, thanks. i must pay another visit to shoot with diff setting and...in raw.

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