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post Dec 13 2009, 07:20 PM, updated 16y ago

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fresh (not so ;p) from TechCrunch

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What's the big deal?
~ it's the finally real deal G-phone.Let's cross all of our fingers and toes and pray it'll arrive on this side of the pond.(Google Mobile Blog)

~ it's in serious test mode now.(Gizmodo)

~ yes it's Nexus One.You might be more familiar with HTC Passion or Dragon.(BoyGeniusReport)

~ It's supposedly an unlocked GSM phone running Android 2.1, powered by the crazyfast Snapdragon processor, with an OLED touchscreen (no keyboard), dual mics (for killing background noise), and enhanced voice-to-text powers. It's gonna be alllll Google branding.(Gizmodo)

~ Google plans to sell it DIRECTLY and unlocked.(Wall Street Journal)

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post Dec 13 2009, 07:28 PM

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Too bad it will be another stock android UI again.
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I guess that's the phone my ex-col has been using... He was on this phone for a while and it will generates periodical SMS, dunno for what reason.....funny feeling...
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post Dec 14 2009, 12:07 AM

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but if it's frm HTC (looks like passion/dragon), then we'll have Sense UI.

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post Dec 14 2009, 12:30 AM

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It is google experience phone.. I doubt it will have sense ui
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post Dec 14 2009, 01:07 AM

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its made by htc as evidenced by the previous spyshot.
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post Dec 14 2009, 01:09 AM

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*pray for this device to come with google voice integration.*
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post Dec 14 2009, 10:28 AM

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i dont really get the story of this phone. this is suppose to be a google phone (google brand phone) but it looks like the htc passion which has been rumoured for quite some time. does that mean that htc will be oem for google and this will only have stock version android instead of htc version of android?
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i think it will likely be like G1 made by HTC but with Google Experience Android + much much more from Google
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QUOTE(Vervain @ Dec 14 2009, 01:09 AM)
*pray for this device to come with google voice integration.*
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lets see the price also . tongue.gif
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if only the screen bezel is the whole phone, it will be the best looking phone, rivaling even the 'I's.
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post Dec 14 2009, 04:27 PM

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Exclusive: first Google Phone / Nexus One photos, Android 2.1 on-board

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i think it will b a great phone n will b in my waiting list(i wan android phone as my 2nd phone)...
but duno wats the price will b...
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What's with the brown shell? Would be nice if the color is all black smile.gif

Nice specs anyway. I have no problems with stock Android UI.. less eye candy, more speed ... just changing the "live" wallpaper will be good enough biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(mikelee @ Dec 14 2009, 04:27 PM)
Exclusive: first Google Phone / Nexus One photos, Android 2.1 on-board

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wow 1 of 3 2010 Android Kings .. in action ... Nexus One .. looks like support .. flash wallpaper .. can 1.5 , 1.6 do that ?? i din even try it before ..
google experience .. was nice .. the last pic inside the link ... preview multi-task scene .. nice2

few additional news
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/14/htc-nex...-and-att-huspa/

*3 2010 Android Kings
Nexus One , HTC Bravo , SE Xperia10


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post Dec 15 2009, 04:54 AM

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HTC Nexus One blessed by the FCC (updated) via Engadget
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post Dec 15 2009, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(hsyong @ Dec 14 2009, 06:22 PM)
What's with the brown shell? Would be nice if the color is all black smile.gif
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Yeah I agree. If its in black, it will look even better.

Another high resolution shot:

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Size comparison with G1:

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Wow, this phone is getting a lot attention!

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I would prefer Google phones rather then HTC brand phones if available. So many updates from google but HTC only once or twice in a product life. Android phone without Market is like retarded.
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post Dec 15 2009, 05:40 PM

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this phone is so slim n sexy...like it..
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post Dec 15 2009, 08:02 PM

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google really good on poisoning us with their new device .. from the side view .. i can see the trackball is not parallel with screen ... its lil bulky if its .. magic style trackball could be nice
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Well, first of all guys, this Nexus One is called "Google Phone" and is personally tailored by Google with HTC. It is codenamed "MahiMahi" and is undergoing its final testing. This will be the first EVER phone to come with an unlocked ROM by the provider itself. Its one of the biggest bash coming up to see next domination of Google on tech. This phone is going to be iPhone killer, runs on SnapDragon, has very fast speed - and is my next phone smile.gif So, anyone wants to buy a Hero? haha
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The look are so HTC feel.... basically not my type... still prefer x10 out of three king... but will go for milestone...hehe..
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post Dec 16 2009, 12:35 PM

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I am interested!!.. When it will be avaialble in Malaysia and the most important thing is HOW MUCH? Some said, the price is around USD199 and it is quite affordable.

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post Dec 16 2009, 01:01 PM

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just go read gizmodo and engadget. everything about it is in those sites, facts and rumors complete. this thing is making quite a drama since the weekend. we didnt even know if it is really 'the' google phone. the one thing for sure is it is just another dev phone similar to the htc dream. but nonetheless it will be released to public soon.
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http://www.androidguys.com/2009/12/14/reut...site-january-5/

Ooo... I can buy it online... cool smile.gif.. I am looking forward how is the integration with Google Voice.
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Nexus One captured on video



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the boot screen are BEAUTIFUL .. i cant wait ... for 1st unboxing vid ..
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post Dec 17 2009, 09:22 AM

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How Carriers and Phone Makers Are Strangling Android (And How Google Could Save It)
By John Herrman Dec 16, 2009 12:22 PM (Gizmodo)

Probably the must read Giz commentary in relation to the subject,guys and gals.
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The problem is in the model. Android updates seed out through carriers, over the air or with special installers. This is because the updates are their responsibility: once handset manufacturers (and carriers, through handset manufacturers) have built their own version of Android, they've effectively taken it out of the development stream. Updating it is their responsibility, which they have to choose to uphold. Or not! Who cares? The phones are already sold. And there's very little to motivate a carrier or handset manufacturer to update their Android phones, because the consequences tend to fall on Google: If Android fragments, the App Market doesn't work. The public sours. Android starts to suck. This is where the Nexus One comes in.

quote taken from the link given on previous post

AGREED ... then i could rather choose Nexus One for sure .. my future android device .. its reliable .. i dont think SE x10 or HTC bravo.. could do the update .. so Nexus One is the top of the throne , nexus one is truly android king and thank god that GSM version comes out 1st .. then follow up with CDMA ..

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if bought online, how many % will government tax it?
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No multitouch? Google, are you kidding me?

http://gizmodo.com/5429490/googles-hype-ge...have-multitouch
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dun just read from engadget .. the engadget crew always do short stupid conclusion itself ...
i comes back and search tnkgrl blog .. then i found out ...

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I just played with the Google Nexus One for a few minutes, Here’s my report:

- It’s extremely thin
- It’s much nicer looking in person than in pictures
- There’s a 4 GB micro-SD card installed
- The battery capacity is 1400 mAh
- The screen appears to be OLED (same size/resolution as the Motorola Droid)
- 3G works on T-Mobile USA smile.gif
- I can confirm that there’s no 3G on AT&T (EGDE only)
- It’s definitely unlocked
- It’s super snappy! Faster than the Droid…
- There’s no multitouch support in the browser or in Google Maps
- There’s no dedicated camera key, but it’s the same camera interface as the Droid
- The trackball can be used to focus (like on other HTC devices)
- Low-light performance is decent, but the flash is weak
- Calls are routed the normal way, not using data (VoIP), and sound fine
- The home screen is divided into 5 panes (like the custom interface on the HTC Hero Motorola CLIQ)
- It’s using a micro-USB connector for data/power
- There are some gold contacts at the bottom edge, for a dock perhaps?
- Did I mention it’s fast?

Sorry, I was not allowed to take pictures (the one above is from the intertubes). That’s it for now smile.gif


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its only default BROWSER and GOOGLE MAPS .. wtfish .. engadget ... could u ppl make conclusion with silly topic ..
"Google's Nexus One lacks multitouch" my as* .. don spoil up my KING's pride .. zzz

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Nexus One running hardware list
For the more discerning/nitpicking droid nerds here (I mean that in a good way mind you).

* Proximity Sensor/Light Sensor: Capella CM3602 per sensors.mahimahi.so in Nexus One ROM Dump.
* Accelerometer: BMA150 3-axis Accelerometer per sensors.mahimahi.so in Nexus One ROM Dump.
* Magnetic Compass: AK8973 3-axis Magnetic field sensor/AK8973 Orientation sensor per sensors.mahimahi.so in Nexus One ROM Dump.
* Wifi Radio / Bluetooth / FM: BCM4329 in lib/modules
* In libaudio.so I found “Routing audio to Speakerphone with back mic” reference.
* In libaudio.so I found “Stereo FM speaker” also referenced.
* Audience A1026 Noise Canceling Chip – No link but here is the A1024 found in libaudio.so
* Qualcomm QSD8K Specific hardware libs in lib/hw (QSD8250 Probably)
* Adreno 200 Graphics Core with OpenGLES 2.0 – Part of Snapdragon?
* Camera Info Vague, found some references to auto focus, flash, white balance and anti-banding in libcamera.so


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For a hardcore phone that cost only $199 unlocked version, it sound too good to be truth~ mayb for US region only
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seeing that it runs on US T-Mobile.. we should be able to port it over here no probs... USD199 converted to RM is still a bloody cheap phone for the specs and to be sanctioned by GOOGLE
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is it .. the nexus one that will be sell in US($199) could be CDMA ver ?? coz GSM and CDMA ver price is diff




Added on December 20, 2009, 11:19 pm


too cool to be true .. FLAN 2.1 simulation

*ignore actual device frame(droid) and replace it with nexus one .. lol

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QUOTE(Deznom @ Dec 20 2009, 12:37 AM)
seeing that it runs on US T-Mobile.. we should be able to port it over here no probs... USD199 converted to RM is still a bloody cheap phone for the specs and to be sanctioned by GOOGLE
Still an unconfirmed rumor bro.Remember last time of that iSuppli's iPhone teardown at $180 cost per unit?N1 probably cost a bit higher and Google still have to put percentages to partner HTC.Unless if Google are dead serious about up-ending the entire mobile phone industry for real.
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Nexus One Unboxing Picture from androidguys
* click the link for video
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http://www.twitvid.com/5315F

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i definately want one. question is.. January 5th? Is it on? Its either the Nexus One or the DROID..i need a new phone.
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i need to save up some money for nexus/droid...i think i will skip cheaper htc magic altogether and get a high end android instead.

android is coming full force with some interesting models...


Added on December 22, 2009, 9:19 pm
QUOTE(Jason @ Dec 22 2009, 08:43 PM)
i definately want one. question is.. January 5th? Is it on? Its either the Nexus One or the DROID..i need a new phone.
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we are on the same boat... rclxms.gif

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Short Nexus One walkthrough

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Target ..Nexus One..
Locked!!
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Google Nexus One Hands On by Gizmodo
*still no new pics

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Thanks to a clandestine meeting with a source, I got a chance to play with and try out the Nexus One. It's basically, from my time with it, Google's Droid killer. It's thin, it's fast, it's better in every way.

That screen is damn good

Even though the screen is the same size and same resolution as the Droid, it's noticeably better. The colors are much more vibrant and the blacks are blacker, as evidenced by putting both side by side and hitting up various websites and loading various games. The pinks on Perez Hilton and the blues on Gizmodo just popped a lot more on the N1, and made the Droid (which was actually considered to have a great screen) seem washed out. The same feeling carries over when you compare the Nexus with the iPhone 3GS. And it's pretty damn bright, compared to the other two phones.

This is probably the best screen we've seen on a smartphone so far. Probably.
Small lil preview by gizmodo

Link
http://gizmodo.com/5432678/google-nexus-one-hands-on

Google have been calling a person to test out the N1 .. maybe thay want fews feedback from android user .. i hope it will become a success


Added on December 25, 2009, 2:26 pmit actually stress me alot .. that Google planning to sell Nexus One with invitation ONLY to Developer on early stage .. 5th jan of 2010

Google Nexus One specs leak; Initial sales invite-only
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Full specifications and some launch news tidbits for the Google Nexus One have emerged, and according to Engadget’s source the first devices – from Google at least – will be offered by invitation only.  The first batch are likely going to developers, similar to how Google offered previous dev handsets, but those sales will be followed up by general T-Mobile USA availability.  The Nexus One will have a Qualcomm 1GHz QSD8250 processor, UMTS/HSPA 900/1700/2100 (i.e. only EDGE max on AT&T), WiFi a/b/g/n and a 3.7-inch WVGA AMOLED display.


google nexus one specifications leak
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512 MB RAM ~!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOT
its the super smart phone .. i cant wait for next batch/wave Nexus One selling (after 5th jan so called-invitation-only) by google.

here the evidence i find out my self that is it real google selling the Nexus One to Dev only with special invitation .. from 1 of Famous DEv Eugene373 twitter home page
here the link
http://twitter.com/eugene373/status/6973163050
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I Offically Have My Nexus One Invite, Do you ? lol, Helps To be friends With a people High in the CHain.... smile.gif
by Eugene373 via twitter

owh DAMN i so jealous to those Dev geek .. y i not cleaver enuf for this DEV things , din be able to be 1 of them .. the android messenger .. so that i be able to get special invitation too , i dont noe what is google planning .. selling Unlocked N1 to DEV 1st .. sumkind of creative plan ?? google ??

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Latest rumour for Nexus one link:
http://gizmodo.com/5436673/leaked-nexus-on...h-t%20mobile%5C

A tipster just sent in these Nexus One screenshots that supposedly confirms two things: that Google will sell it unlocked and unsubsidized for $530, and that Google will sell it by themselves. Plus, some other very interesting details.

Some of the most important bits of info we extracted (assuming the tipster is accurate, and it seems like he is). Oh, and take a look at our hands on with the device in case you haven't familiarized yourself with it yet.

• Yeah, it's $530 unsubsidized. Google's not going to be selling the phone at cost, like so many people considered. They're not going to save us from the "making money off of hardware" culture we've got right now, so this is basically just another Android handset, albeit a really good one
• If you want it subsidized, you'll have to sign up for a 2 year mandatory contract and pay $180 for the phone
• There's only one rate plan: $39.99 Even More + Text + Web for $79.99 total
• Existing customers cannot keep their plan if they want a subsidized phone; they have to change to the one plan, and this only applies to accounts with one single line
• If that doesn't fly with you, you have to buy the $530 unlocked version—this actually might save you money over two years if you already have a cheap plan
• Family plans, Flexpay, SmartAccess and KidConnect subscribers must buy the phone unlocked and unsubsidized for $530
• You can only buy five Nexus One phones per Google account
• There is language in the agreement of shipping outside the US
• Google will sell it at google.com/phone, which explains what they were doing with that page a few weeks ago
• Google will still call it the Nexus One apparently, and not the Google Phone

And here is a big one:
• If you cancel your plan before 120 days, you have to pay the subsidy difference between what you paid and the unsubsidized price, so $350 in this case. Or you can return the phone to Google. You also authorize them to charge this directly to your credit card.

One weirdness in the Terms of Sale that we quickly glanced through was that Google made sure you acknowledged that the manufacturer is HTC, and not Google.
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A good reading too:
http://www.nexusoneblog.com/blog/2009/12/2...e-contract.html

I'm buying this phone ON the day its launching..Its goin to be the craziest thing I've done in years on my techie side..haha..
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Need Google Checkout account to buy, isnt it? Can include me in your order? Hehe... I dont have Checkout account la...
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QUOTE(shahz @ Dec 30 2009, 05:03 PM)
A good reading too:
http://www.nexusoneblog.com/blog/2009/12/2...e-contract.html

I'm buying this phone ON the day its launching..Its goin to be the craziest thing I've done in years on my techie side..haha..
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but...how do we purchase it?
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QUOTE(Rushy @ Dec 30 2009, 08:03 PM)
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but...how do we purchase it?
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it's not possible to buy it but i wonder how much of "import tax" we have to pay in order to clear the custom?? unsure.gif
if you read the terms and conditiosn of the purchase, they(the courier) may help you to clear the custom, but they will charge us for it.
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great...that means N1 gona cost us a boom man....
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the spec says A-GPS, so how about the traditional GPS?

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QUOTE(electron @ Dec 31 2009, 10:13 AM)
the spec says A-GPS, so how about the traditional GPS?
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A-GPS = assisted GPS.
it will use telco cell to make the GPS lock faster if you turn it on.
GPS is still GPS, still using satellite to track you down.

if still confused, you can read detail explanation here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS

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here you go, ten minutes with the nexus one. sexxay baybeh.
http://gizmodo.com/5437495/ten-minutes-with-the-nexus-one
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wondering hows it perform in term of sound..hope easy to use n nice like ipod inside ihone
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QUOTE(faizalmzain @ Dec 31 2009, 10:34 AM)
A-GPS = assisted GPS.
it will use telco cell to make the GPS lock faster if you turn it on.
GPS is still GPS, still using satellite to track you down.

if still confused, you can read detail explanation here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS
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ok, but i wonder does it support standalone GPS, on top of assisted GPS

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QUOTE(electron @ Dec 31 2009, 01:59 PM)
ok, but i wonder does it support standalone GPS, on top of assisted GPS
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what do u mean by standalone GPS??
do u mean can connect to bluetooth GPS receiver? it is sofware dependent if that;s the case, not hardware

but then what's the point of using bluetooth GPS receiver when the phone has internal GPS receiver? hmm.gif
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ok, but i wonder does it support standalone GPS, on top of assisted GPS
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at least for the current android, you can turn off wifi/cell location services and it will purely depend on GPS for location services ... so most likely Nexus One would have this feature.
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i think u mean whether u can use the GPS without A-GPS .... ??

at least for the current android, you can turn off wifi/cell location services and it will purely depend on GPS for location services ... so most likely Nexus One would have this feature.
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so when there is no network coverage, then no more GPS
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i see, cos some devices support A-GPS but not standalone GPS
so when there is no network coverage, then no more GPS
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i think you don't fully understand what A-GPS means. unsure.gif
if you read from the wiki i posted the link earlier, you should be able to understand what is A-GPS is all about.

basically the A in front of GPS is an added service to "standalone" GPS. if you turn on the "A" then your GPS will lock your location faster than when you turn it off. if you chose to turn the "A" off, it may slow down the locking process from the cold start but you'll still be able to use your GPS.

the only difference is the initial start of GPS, locking process is with or without assistance.

or in other words:
A-GPS : a standalone GPS with added service during the locking process.

standalone GPS normally doesn't come with GSM receiver/internet connectivity to make use of "assisted" locking process.

A-GPS will work with or without network coverage since it is using satellites to get your location once the location is locked.
it may lock your location slower if there's no network coverage or if you choose not to use it for some reasons.

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i think in Malaysia,
even we sign contract with any telco,
also cant get this cheaper price: around RM700,
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as the comparison of apple iPhone from Maxis.. sad.gif
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gosh..>.< i'm seriously in dilemma right now..>.<
feeling so anxiety on android phone. looking at nexus one.. but suddenly.. got a peak at htc bravo..>.<

guys, bravo's spec is bettter comepare to N1 right? as it records HD movie though...=)
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Engadget has a brief review of the N1.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/exclusi...irst-impressio/


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i wonder when will it be comin to Malaysia~
how about the warranty and stuff...
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If possible I want to buy via online. I hope the can deliver it to Malaysia. Eh... why not someone ask HTC Malaysia (if any), if they have plan to sell in Malausia or not.

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i dont think HTC will sell it la..
For N1, HTC is jz the manufacturer.
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Dont worry.. Nexus one will be coming to Malaysia in awhile. I think Singaporean can get it first because Google has been shipping DevPhone to Singapore for awhile.
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Dont worry.. Nexus one will be coming to Malaysia in awhile. I think Singaporean can get it first because Google has been shipping DevPhone to Singapore for awhile.
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Then, ;let's start the bulk order from singapore.... or... Let's 'Jalan-jalan cari Nexus' at Singapore... smile.gif ... so we can 'lari' tax. smile.gif'
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Yeah...Nexus One launching today...Please check this website-http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=25683&LYN=froogle&utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_term=HTCNEXUSBKEU&utm_campaign=froogle
Is it possible about the free shipping???

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extra charges including shipping, tax & duties?? unsure.gif
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anyone interested? as i'm currently in the States right now, i reckon i could get one smile.gif
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Yeah...Nexus One launching today...Please check this website-http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=25683&LYN=froogle&utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_term=HTCNEXUSBKEU&utm_campaign=froogle
Is it possible about the free shipping???
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I cannot place any order with my Google Checkout. so we have to wait little more.

BTW, Google still not annouced anything yet, because in California it is still 8:30 pm (2010-01-04) and the announcement is at 10 am, around, 2 am MYT (2010-01-06).

Thank you.

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Engadget's review on the Google Nexus One:

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http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/nexus-one-review/

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QUOTE(cywings @ Jan 5 2010, 11:43 AM)
anyone interested? as i'm currently in the States right now, i reckon i could get one smile.gif
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when u will back?mayb i need to tumpang u tongue.gif

btw i heard the browser in N! not rly good( from wat i read at review)
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If the prize is around or a bit more higher than the Hero, then I might also want to tumpang you. Hmm... thinking to sell my Hero later.
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The live wallpaper of Nexus One is really cool...the only problem is with the multi-touch...
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then...those who r buying this nexus one will be labelled as crazy when they talking to the phone (not talking with another person on the phone) (lol)
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http://www.google.com/phone is online

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i'm reading giz' liveblog for the Google Nexus One event right now.They're at QnA session.

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Who is going to buy this in Singapore?
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even if it is available in Malaysia, people without credit card cant buy because google checkout uses credit card. sad.gif
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 5 2010, 01:31 PM)
when u will back?mayb i need to tumpang u tongue.gif

btw i heard the browser in N! not rly good( from wat i read at review)
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i'll be back end of this month for CNY....

i'm on the verge of clicking 'Place Your Order' on google checkout.. lol..

the best is they got free engraving at the back of your phone. biggrin.gif

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looks very nice..never hav the urge to change my phone until now! but without droid market available here, is it still worth it? hmm.gif
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Got free engraving service just like iPod meh? Lol!

Even though we can't use the android market, I still think that the phone is reasonably price hence make it a great deal.
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Ok, I tried to buy the N1 from google.com/phone through US proxy. smile.gif but, they cannot deliver to Malaysia.

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We are not currently able to ship to your country. If you wish to continue with your order you must specify a shipping address in Hong Kong, Singapore, the United Kingdom, or the United States.


I am wondering if N1 will be available in retail shops, in Malaysia or Singapore.

Thank you.
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Got free engraving service just like iPod meh? Lol!

Even though we can't use the android market, I still think that the phone is reasonably price hence make it a great deal.
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yeah there is an engraving page for you to type in anything you want when u place an order.
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No problem opening google.com/phone from here. I have the "get the phone" button. And yes I'm in Malaysia without going through any proxy. My profile location is in Malaysia also.

I've been squinting my eyes, there's no secondary front camera for 3G video calls, is there?
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QUOTE(cywings @ Jan 6 2010, 04:18 AM)
i'll be back end of this month for CNY....

i'm on the verge of clicking 'Place Your Order' on google checkout.. lol..

the best is they got free engraving at the back of your phone. biggrin.gif

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hi there, really interested in the phone..

how much do you charge if I want to order with u? smile.gif
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No problem opening google.com/phone from here. I have the "get the phone" button. And yes I'm in Malaysia without going through any proxy. My profile location is in Malaysia also.

I've been squinting my eyes, there's no secondary front camera for 3G video calls, is there?
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Where does the "get the phone" button located? I can't found it...
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Envy...hope hero users can upgrade ROM to android 2.1 soon...anyway, Nexus One rock!!!
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if u have a friend in singapore, u can buy this phone right?
just ship to your friend's address
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But, from the picing list.. The total cost if I want to delivered to Singapore is USD 689. Wou, + USD160... Banyak tu...

MMm.. I think, I want to ask my friend who has forwarder in US. smile.gif I hope he can help me.

TQ.
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Where you get the figure from?

1 Nexus One phone - $529.00
1 AC adapter - Country-specific AC adapter $19.99
1 Shipping - DHL international $28.32
Tax : $0.00
Total: $577.31

This is the total order cost I get from Google Checkout
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QUOTE(bahathir @ Jan 6 2010, 11:13 AM)
But, from the picing list.. The total cost  if I want to delivered to Singapore is USD 689. Wou, + USD160... Banyak tu...

MMm.. I think, I want to ask my friend who has forwarder in US. smile.gif I hope he can help me.

TQ.
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huh, shipping to singapore cost that much???
I was hoping to tumpang my singapore friends to get it for me

I do have a cousin who is currently in US, he can ship it back for me for sure ...... but our lovely kastam is indeed a big problem that really worries me
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I think you can tell your friend to walk to JB and ship using Pos Malaysia from there.

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I'm thinking of doing a bulk. not sure how many will be interested though
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IC, not need to add another 7% singapore GST ?

Ok, I got the price from the 'leaked' pricing list. So I think I got it wrong smile.gif

For our 'beloved' Kastam, try to declared it as computer peripherals and as "Birthday present" smile.gif


Wow USD 19.99 for charger.... I have Nokia E52, microUSB charger, and I think it is compatible. I hope I am right. about this. Or I always can charge through my PC/Laptop.


And yes... anything about, 3G Video Call? From the N1's user guide. I did not found any info about the 3G video call. mmmm... quite pity,

http://www.google.com/googlephone/nexusone-userguide.pdf

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need to pay GST.. but to DHL..
I cant change the charger option.. too bad..

nexus no front camera.
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I think 3G video call not really useful nowadays..seldom see ppl use the 3g call anyway. It's the social network generation - FB, Twitter, yoube..
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QUOTE(SanosukeSagara @ Jan 6 2010, 11:44 AM)
Where you get the figure from?

1  Nexus One phone  -  $529.00 
    1  AC adapter  -  Country-specific AC adapter  $19.99 
    1  Shipping  -  DHL international  $28.32 
Tax :  $0.00 
Total:  $577.31 

This is the total order cost I get from Google Checkout
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If converted to current MYR, it cost much cheaper than current Hero price here in Malaysia.

And how much unit can order in 1 transaction? Then how about multiple unit for the custom text graving at the back?

For me the secondary phone for 3g call is not a big deal for me. My main purpose for the phone is for online.

Interested in this N1 already.
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the order screens only take u for a unit per order
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any idea on how to order without credit card?
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tempting on this..wan to keep this with my iphone
any news that this phone will b available at australia soon?
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Hmm, can we only buy the phone online?

Cause I have relatives in Singapore, but I do not want to trouble them to use their credit card. cause I just tried accessing the website and it does not ship to our country even though I want it to be shipped to Singapore.

How can I resolve this issue? Or my relatives can actually go to telco service provider shop in Singapore and buy?
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Search for any singapore proxy..
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HTC's Nexus One main page
http://www.htc.com/www/product/nexusone/overview.html


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QUOTE(gstoh @ Jan 4 2010, 10:28 PM)
i so want this phone.
but correct me if i'm wrong, if added the tax it will be USD $683.00 for Singapore (roughly RM2,314.35) based on the link above? I dont think that include the tax Singapore is going to impose on it also rite?

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Don't worry, the htc website for Malaysia says that "Currently, Nexus One is only available for purchase in .......". This mean Malaysia stand a chance too...I will wait for it...
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QUOTE(irwan6179 @ Jan 6 2010, 11:57 AM)
I'm thinking of doing a bulk. not sure how many will be interested though
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it look a lil bit tedious though, since seems like you can only buy 1 per Google Checkout transaction (haven't gone to the last step yet, since I do not own any credit card; thus not sure if can specify quantity on the last page)

but if u're doing in bulk i might be interested.

juz did a spec comparison between iphone & gphone. it's a lil weird that 2G calls using iphone consumes less battery power than gphone, but it's the other way around for gphone.


Network GPhone IPhone
2G Up to 10 hrs Up to 12 hours
3G Up to 7 hrs Up to 5hours

Now that's weird.
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oo I'm not aware of that... I'll try to find away to find workaround on that.. creating many accounts seem tedious.

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go android..
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feel like buy it, since i m in singapore >"<
muz i get the ac adapter ?
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feel like buy it, since i m in singapore >"<
muz i get the ac adapter ?
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Singaporeans already ordered. o.O
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Actually the price is not that expensive, still cheaper than iphone, i think i will make order also.
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I still use front cam for video call a lot, I guess I'll have to skip N1 then sad.gif.
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"Sorry, the Nexus One phone is not available in your country."
Great, now i gota wait wait and wait.....
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"Sorry, the Nexus One phone is not available in your country."
Great, now i gota wait wait and wait.....
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SUX to da max!!
when will it be officially available in Malaysia?
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lolz, i just tried using HK proxy and the button really turns into GET YOUR PHONE.

but is it risky, i mean like using proxy to buy a phone that's not suppose to be in your country. >:D
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yeah ...
SUX to da max!!
when will it be officially available in Malaysia?
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like iphone after 2 years when everyone has a hand on it then on only M'sia turn......just my opinion...

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I already tried with US proxy, and already hit the 'buy" button, but, they cannat deliver it to my address in Malaysia. BTW, yea... I think I have to wait also... no rush, I still have phone to use. smile.gif

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just wondering. singapore and malaysia isn't the same network eh ? i meant, if buy in singapore, cant use in malaysia eh ?
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QUOTE(fakerdemit @ Jan 6 2010, 06:03 PM)
just wondering. singapore and malaysia isn't the same network eh ? i meant, if buy in singapore, cant use in malaysia eh ?
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can use. cause it's unlocked version. That's the beauty of it.
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so, buy from singapore le, can ?
2 3 months later, sure got ppl selling in here.
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QUOTE(fakerdemit @ Jan 6 2010, 06:10 PM)
so, buy from singapore le, can ?
2 3 months later, sure got ppl selling in here.
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Yeah can, if I'm not wrong, cause that is what I heard. Wait for expert reply in this thread.

Yeah I know 2-3 months later sure got ppl sell, but birthday coming soon, thought of getting that. lol.
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I think I read this sumwhere
They google only quota 4 or 3 nexus one only per google account so it will be expensive not because of google price but its seller price. So its rare phone then...
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u can buy the phone from sg.
But the problem is the warranty.
u gota send it bk to sg....
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Anyone know what is the price if we buy it using a Singaporean address? smile.gif
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Actually how long more we have to wait for it to come to Malaysia? Potentially a year?
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1 Nexus One phone $529.00
1 AC adapter - Country-specific AC adapter $19.99
1 Shipping - DHL international $28.32
Tax : $0.00
Total: $577.31

plus GST 0.7%
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QUOTE(FCUK89 @ Jan 6 2010, 09:48 PM)
Actually how long more we have to wait for it to come to Malaysia? Potentially a year?
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maybe 2
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QUOTE(Rushy @ Jan 6 2010, 09:31 PM)
u can buy the phone from sg.
But the problem is the warranty.
u gota send it bk to sg....
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Have you read the Nexus One warranty before u BS?

Nexus One warranty is worldwide provided by HTC. Refer http://www.google.com/support/android/bin/...n&answer=166519 for warranty
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i think N1 will be available in next few months(i mean malaysia)
don think it will up to 1 year
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Yes I think soon there will be at least an AP set.
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whats the price?
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QUOTE(SanosukeSagara @ Jan 6 2010, 10:08 PM)
Have you read the Nexus One warranty before u BS?

Nexus One warranty is worldwide provided by HTC. Refer http://www.google.com/support/android/bin/...n&answer=166519 for warranty
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That's nice to hear.

Hmm, really thinking now how to get it soon. Anyway, if you all see got ppl selling or something, do post it here yeah.

Thanks.
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry31057804

already on sale... LOL
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QUOTE(tHe^CuLpRit @ Jan 6 2010, 11:51 PM)
Now that's fast!
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is it just me or the price that being selling by forumer is little bit high????
if buying at singapore will take approx. +/- SGD 600 so it will be cheaper rite??

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QUOTE(tHe^CuLpRit @ Jan 6 2010, 11:51 PM)
wah geng. First mover advantage. lol.

Anyway, will see if got ppl buy from him first or not. Still quite skeptical about this cause see so many ppl con case before already.

Keeping fingers cross.
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Try do research first before buying...
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is it just me or the price that being selling by forumer is little bit high????
if buying at singapore will take approx. +/- SGD 600 so it will be cheaper rite??
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Cause to save all those hassle and stuff plus he wants to earn. So yeah I think it's quite normal if he prices it like that.
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its not 600 SGD dude, its 577 USD = 806 SGD + GST 7% would cost around total 850~860 SGD.
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Hmm, shall we talk about what's the downside of this phone?

Cause we have heard so many good things about it. At least with the downside, ppl can evaluate as well?

For now, of course anything is just based on reviews, as we have not have first hand experience on the phone yet.
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I got something WTA, the multi-touch is unavailable only for browser? or other applications also cannot?
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I got something WTA, the multi-touch is unavailable only for browser? or other applications also cannot?
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Wait, what is multi touch function? Sorry haven't experience a touch phone in my life yet and quite noob in phone stuff.

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its not 600 SGD dude, its 577 USD = 806 SGD + GST 7% would cost around total 850~860 SGD.
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hehe....i thought it will be that cheap... drool.gif hahaa...
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Wait, what is multi touch function? Sorry haven't experience a touch phone in my life yet and quite noob in phone stuff.
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Lol, the example is when you viewing a webpage, u can place two fingers and expand to zoom in...multi-touch allows the user to interact with the device by placing two or more fingers directly onto the surface of the screen.
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With more beautiful screen and faster graphic, multi touch is sure lot of fun to be used. Btw I also launched my bulk. Check it out ya
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well, some people already selling N1 now. Better to get their review about this phone before i decided to get one.

Anyone, review please...
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Even without multitouch I think the eyecandy interface is forgiving enough to let you forget about it's imperfection.

Hero and HD2 are the 2 which I know comes with multitouch. Even so, not all application will take advantage of this feature. Milestone is another, LG's chocolate and I think Arena is a few which devices which incorporates multitouch feature. The 2nd phone which came with multitouch after Iphone was meizu m8 if not mistaken. Multitouch can be useful at times.

Nexus 1 have a good potential. However I was kinda disappointed on the browser. Surely the snap dragon should perform better than driod.
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My N1 has been shipped with free overnight! wow that's fast

Hello Mohd,

Your order has shipped.

Order # G47311767605xxx
Shipped on January 6, 2010
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send to which address? singapore or hongkong?
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for me , N1 has really dissapointed me a little bit because of no multi touch.. it's useful for games and now without it , i think the games are a bit limited.

and i use a lot of multitouch for browsing..

currently using HD2 and selling it away after getting N1 for my first android. hopefully its good and have good softwares.

winmo sucks! for me, i still miss my iphone which has 'kong' last month and it has kept me using it for a really long time.
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I read that the hardware of Nexus One support multi-touch, just the software didn't...
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I read that the hardware of Nexus One support multi-touch, just the software didn't...
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meaning a s/w update will enable the multi-touch? cool.

mind to share the link where you read that?
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if you want to use multitouch for browsing,i think there is a hack to do so,just install it and u can browse internet with multitouch capabilities....anyway,motorola droid also dun have multitouch,also using a hack to do so
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for those of you buying the phone from US,

How do you solve the charger issue?

Continent/Country Voltage Frequency Plug Type
United States 120 V 60 HZ USA
Malaysia 240 V 50 HZ UK
Singapore 230 V 50 HZ UK

taken from http://www.powerstream.com/cv.htm

please correct me if i'm wrong
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Multi-touch
Here it is.
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thanks kongkkm!

anyone knows about the charger thing i mentioned above?
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Wow this is impressive. Nexus One: Speech to Text recognition



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QUOTE(xavier7 @ Jan 7 2010, 10:47 AM)
for those of you buying the phone from US,

How do you solve the charger issue?

Continent/Country  Voltage  Frequency  Plug Type
United States        120 V      60 HZ    USA
Malaysia                240 V      50 HZ    UK
Singapore                  230 V  50 HZ    UK

taken from http://www.powerstream.com/cv.htm

please correct me if i'm wrong
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why so worry about charger ??? i believe any HTC mini usb charger can be use here ...

worst case, ma charge via pc/notebook lor ...
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N1 is using microusb charger. I think you can use your PC/laptop to charge it, just like my Nokia E52. BTW, my Nokia E52 also comes with microUSB charger with auto-voltage, and also an

You can use the usb-microusb data cable if you want to charge it... or just buy any compatible microusb charger.

Thank you.

Ref:
Nexus One User Guide Manual : Page 20.

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great replies, mikeeeee and bahathir, thank you very much!

but wont pc charging via usb be slower? sorry for my inexperience in this.


Added on January 7, 2010, 12:25 pmbtw, i tried using HK proxy to order, when i go to the google checkout page, it says:

Oops!
The page you requested could not be found. Please check the page you used to reach this page.

anyone has this problem? haha.

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QUOTE(irwan6179 @ Jan 7 2010, 08:10 AM)
My N1 has been shipped with free overnight! wow that's fast

Hello Mohd,

Your order has shipped.

Order # G47311767605xxx
Shipped on January 6, 2010
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waiting for your review then..... rclxms.gif


Added on January 7, 2010, 12:44 pm
QUOTE(bahathir @ Jan 7 2010, 11:52 AM)
N1 is using microusb charger. I think you can use your PC/laptop to charge it, just like my Nokia E52. BTW, my Nokia E52 also comes with microUSB charger with auto-voltage, and also an

You can  use the usb-microusb data cable if you want to charge it... or just buy any compatible microusb charger.

Thank you.

Ref:
Nexus One User Guide Manual : Page 20.
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so the AC adapter is optional right?
i think much cheaper if we bought the adapter here..


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No multi touch only with default apps.
If u going to app phone, there are a lot of potential within it actually, as long as the phone hardware itself did support multi touch and YES nexus one hardware(AMOLED screen does support multi touch) did. There a browser app that support multi touch called "dolphin browser" inside android market and its FREE like I'm using right now( posting and reading this thread) and its better faster than default browser app.
About charging nexus one phone, using laptop and using ac adapter battery life time is different, charging using laptop are faster power drain.
And remember no multi touch only for nexus one default apps, there's no reason y u need to stress out for those who still new about android phone.
To me N1 is the best app phone so far and trust me, u won't regret buying this phone ,never ever ever.
And who cares about 3g video call cause that's THE ONLY thing nexus one hardware doesn't have.


Added on January 7, 2010, 1:57 pm@vervain
I hope u noe that apple utilized all of entire US country smart phone device can't use their own pinch zooming feature idea, that's y droid doest support multi touch but milestone from UK did support multi touch.
Also nexus one, coz google do the marketing world wide INCLUDING US country so they have to obey apple's multi touch right reserved.

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i would like to know if i go to hong kong and do the purchase online and then make the address send to malaysia can work or not
as this is online purchase and i am wondering is there any people that can try in this way



hope u all can give me an idea can or cannot as i want to buy
i want to support google and i love this phone very very much

i even dream it during my sleeps at nite



anyone offer me any way of getting the phone


hope all of you can help me

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QUOTE(bryant76 @ Jan 7 2010, 02:47 PM)
i would like to know if i go to hong kong and do the purchase online and then make the address send to malaysia can work or not
as this is online purchase and i am wondering is there any people that can try in this way
hope u all can give me an idea can or cannot as i want to buy
i want to support google and i love this phone very very much

i even dream it during my sleeps at nite
anyone offer me any way of getting the phone
hope all of you can help me
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LOL bryant, ppl are selling it in the forum. look around.
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yeah....there are few sellers in the forum now...
try there....
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QUOTE(xavier7 @ Jan 7 2010, 02:57 PM)
LOL bryant, ppl are selling it in the forum. look around.
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brother people is selling rm 2300
after i calculate all .................only rm 2000

why i have to pay additional rm 300 to this people

they r earning rm300 per set


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lol then good luck trying to find out how smile.gif

a little proxy might help, but i cant seem to make it work lol (i know, my skillz suxors)
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Nexus 2 might from motorola??

http://digital.venturebeat.com/2010/01/05/nexus-two/
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QUOTE(xavier7 @ Jan 7 2010, 03:01 PM)
lol then good luck trying to find out how smile.gif

a little proxy might help, but i cant seem to make it work lol (i know, my skillz suxors)
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even through proxy, i dont think it will work as your delivered address will still be Malaysia.
Unless u plan to send it to sg.
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QUOTE(Rushy @ Jan 7 2010, 03:20 PM)
even through proxy, i dont think it will work as your delivered address will still be Malaysia.
Unless u plan to send it to sg.
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i wanted to send it to a friend in US, but the google checkout had an error, right after the engraving page (i skipped it)
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How about try my proxy?
137.132.19.39:3333 a proxy in NUS.. hope it helps.
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bryant76: If not mistaken, the shipping address has to be HK,US,UK or SG. Otherwise, Google will disallow the process at the very last step (I think some of the forumers have already tried). You can try it yourself tongue.gif.

Anyone organizing bulk for this? I wonder will any MY carrier carry this with discounted price or not. Guess Maxis won't be carrying this phone since they got the iPhone.

Definitely we won't find this in retail shops right?
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i'm going to US next week...

just wondering if i can buy and use the phone in malaysia..
it seem it compatible with our GSM (quadband).

but just worried about 3G and 3.5G..
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How about try my proxy?
137.132.19.39:3333 a proxy in NUS.. hope it helps.
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thanks! will try it out later smile.gif
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QUOTE(eastherd @ Jan 7 2010, 03:53 PM)
i'm going to US next week...

just wondering if i can buy and use the phone in malaysia..
it seem it compatible with our GSM (quadband).

but just worried about 3G and 3.5G..
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No worries. GSM and 3G of Nexus One is supported by local telco.
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I want this phone. Google has hinted that they might add multitouch in a later update. But I have to be sure.
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i went to a local HTC shop today.. they say they'll sell nexus one in a month's time.. price not sure yet, but for sure gonna be more expensive..

multitouch hardware and software is there.. just need to be unlocked and hacked.. like moto droid.. but prolly an official update is good too..
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QUOTE(~tera~ @ Jan 7 2010, 01:30 PM)
No multi touch only with default apps.
If u going to app phone, there are a lot of potential within it actually, as long as the phone hardware itself did support multi touch and YES nexus one hardware(AMOLED screen does support multi touch) did. There a browser app that support multi touch called "dolphin browser" inside android market and its FREE like I'm using right now( posting and reading this thread)  and its better faster than default browser app.
About charging nexus one phone, using laptop and using ac adapter battery life time is different, charging using laptop are faster power drain.
And remember no multi touch only for nexus one default apps, there's no reason y u need to stress out for those who still new about android phone.
To me N1 is the best app phone so far and trust me, u won't regret buying this phone ,never ever ever.
And who cares about 3g video call cause that's THE ONLY thing nexus one hardware doesn't have.


Added on January 7, 2010, 1:57 pm@vervain
I hope u noe that apple utilized all of entire US country smart phone device can't use their own pinch zooming feature idea, that's y droid doest support multi touch but milestone from UK did support multi touch.
Also nexus one, coz google do the marketing world wide INCLUDING US country so they have to obey apple's multi touch right reserved.
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Yes, That's also the same reason why they lock the phone under AT&T network. Now if only the phone comes with other variant of colours. That would be nice.
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QUOTE(bryant76 @ Jan 7 2010, 02:59 PM)
brother people is selling rm 2300
after i calculate all .................only rm 2000

why i have to pay additional rm 300 to this people

they r earning rm300 per set
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haha, yeah, the price to pay for loaning their address, freight and handling. Not to mention there might be Tax imposed on imported goods. Overall the choice is yours. if you have contact overseas, then ask them to get it for you. But make sure it's not lost during delivery by courier.
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Just noticed this beast comes with a massive 512 ram and wireless n. Definitely a much worthly phone to get than iPhone or n900
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This phone is really interesting for me. But I kinda like HTC sense UI. So I might wait for the Bravo.

But my itchy fingers tell me I might ask my friend to buy it in SG and bring back here. tongue.gif

Any owners oredi?
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It's nice that Google is giving free overnight shipping (same like poslaju, but overnight in the US is superexpensive). tax for New Jersey is USD37.03
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irwan u ship to new jersey?
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i am intrested w the phone
i would like to know whether u can ship to my place in malaysia
and then i use western union to pay u
hope u can understand what i mean



QUOTE(irwan6179 @ Jan 8 2010, 12:06 AM)
It's nice that Google is giving free overnight shipping (same like poslaju, but overnight in the US is superexpensive). tax for New Jersey is USD37.03
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QUOTE(SanosukeSagara @ Jan 8 2010, 12:17 AM)
irwan u ship to new jersey?
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Yeap, my runner is located in NJ

QUOTE(bryant76 @ Jan 8 2010, 12:51 AM)
brother

i am intrested w the phone
i would like to know whether u can ship to my place in malaysia
and then i use western union to pay u
hope u can understand what i mean
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You sound exactly like a Nigerian scammer.
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w00t.. becareful of import tax and Sirim AP.
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i really want to buy one
and i just want to save some cost
as if i go w western union maybe it will be cheaper
somemore ur runner will get the money also


btw u give me best price and i will think abt it.....rm 2400 is a bit high side

just my own 2 cent opinion



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Yeap, my runner is located in NJ
You sound exactly like a Nigerian scammer.
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QUOTE(SanosukeSagara @ Jan 8 2010, 01:01 AM)
w00t.. becareful of import tax and Sirim AP.
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QUOTE(bryant76 @ Jan 8 2010, 01:02 AM)
brother

i really want to buy one
and i just want to save some cost
as if i go w western union maybe it will be cheaper
somemore ur runner will get the money also
btw u give me best price and i will think abt it.....rm 2400 is a bit high side

just my own 2 cent opinion
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How is western union cheaper than good ol cash transaction?
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i'm in Sg, probably could help you guys shipped it for rm200 smile.gif or RM100 collect in Sg
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lol..illegal tradings..hehe..i ordered mine from US too..on the way already biggrin.gif


Added on January 8, 2010, 3:04 amFor those who are complaining about not adding up the price..Wake up guys..I ordered mine for $550.03 USD to be shipped to my friend in US and another $135 USD for shipping via Fedex to Malaysia..I think their prices are reasonable..This is a limited edition phone and you should be thankful that someone is taking up the trouble to buy it for you..If you dont have the money to spend, then I suggest you go buy another phone..Seriously..If you aint payin, you aint deservin.. 'nuff said..

To those who are bringing in the Nexus One to Malaysia..Cheers to you guys..It is you guys who help make Android a hit in Malaysia..I was really pissed at google at 3am on 6th January when the site was loaded just to find out that Malaysia is not supported yet..

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Anyone knows about the watching movies and listening to music experience on the Nexus One ?
How it fares against Iphone so far on those 2 categories ..



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Euro version got multitouch. Now, we know that it's software locked not hardware limitation. Cheers smile.gif

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/surpris...oes-multitouch/

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QUOTE(virtual @ Jan 8 2010, 06:06 AM)
Euro version got multitouch. Now, we know that it's software locked not hardware limitation. Cheers smile.gif

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/surpris...oes-multitouch/
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anyone knows how Nexus One Speech to text function reflect with Singlish?
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 8 2010, 02:58 AM)
lol..illegal tradings..hehe..i ordered mine from US too..on the way already biggrin.gif


Added on January 8, 2010, 3:04 amFor those who are complaining about not adding up the price..Wake up guys..I ordered mine for $550.03 USD to be shipped to my friend in US and another $135 USD for shipping via Fedex to Malaysia..I think their prices are reasonable..This is a limited edition phone and you should be thankful that someone is taking up the trouble to buy it for you..If you dont have the money to spend, then I suggest you go buy another phone..Seriously..If you aint payin, you aint deservin.. 'nuff said..

To those who are bringing in the Nexus One to Malaysia..Cheers to you guys..It is you guys who help make Android a hit in Malaysia..I was really pissed at google at 3am on 6th January when the site was loaded just to find out that Malaysia is not supported yet..
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Will this phone be taxed upon arriving from the US then?
Some sellers selling at RM2400 and i think bringing from Singapore so maybe able to avoid tax from the malaysian custom.
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I saw the demo u have to speak out "period" in order to place an " . " in your sentence, so does " question mark " for an " ? "


Added on January 8, 2010, 9:48 amI think if you have fren in singapore, ask them to come to JB. should can avoid taxes..

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Hmmm...so we need to get the EU version to get "default" multi-touch functionailty? Since the patent is only valid in US right?
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Apparently Google is expanding the list of test countries very soon. Question is how soon.


Added on January 8, 2010, 12:57 pmDoes the Singaporean version have multi-touch like the UK version does? Can anyone confirm?


Added on January 8, 2010, 1:00 pmOk the UK-spec N1 having multi-touch is also just a rumor it seems.

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Skip to 7:35. I'm really impressed by the voice recognition there. Just hope it can recognize those with accents lol




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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 8 2010, 02:58 AM)
i ordered mine from US too..on the way already :D
when is the ETA shahz? i cant wait for your reviews and hands on pictures.

my impression for this phone, which is all from pictures and reviews, is that this phone is a beast from technical point of view, but design wise, it is not groundbreaking nor as quirky as the hero. and for me design really is important.

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i wish i can order rright now but no money unless i sell off my iphone sad.gif
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i wish i can order rright now but no money unless i sell off my iphone sad.gif
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BTW, for certain country in EU, the N1's price is even higher, with 17.5% tax. So if you send it to UK, the price is already about MYR2400. But still you need to courier it to .my + cukai + AP... the pirce might be almost MYR2800. :smile.gif

So, for multitouch.... MYR2800.. mmmm... I prefer the US version
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https://www.google.com/phone/static/en_US-c..._estimates.html

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QUOTE(bryant76 @ Jan 8 2010, 01:02 AM)
brother

i really want to buy one
and i just want to save some cost
as if i go w western union maybe it will be cheaper
somemore ur runner will get the money also
btw u give me best price and i will think abt it.....rm 2400 is a bit high side

just my own 2 cent opinion
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save ur money then ... western union ? r u frm malaysia ? shakehead.gif shocking.gif

how much u expect ppl sell to u ? how about Rm1.8k ? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jan 8 2010, 09:44 AM)
Will this phone be taxed upon arriving from the US then?
Some sellers selling at RM2400 and i think bringing from Singapore so maybe able to avoid tax from the malaysian custom.
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Nope..Using courier methods, you can escape the taxes..That is why I said its an illegal method.. wink.gif Sometimes you just have to be crazy to get something..I really don't care..If they will capture my phone somehow, and ask me to pay the tax..I'll just ask them to use my Nexus One calculator and calculate how much I have to pay for it..haha..What I know is, Nexus One is mine for sure smile.gif

QUOTE(apika @ Jan 8 2010, 04:26 PM)
when is the ETA shahz? i cant wait for your reviews and hands on pictures.

my impression for this phone, which is all from pictures and reviews, is that this phone is a beast from technical point of view, but design wise, it is not groundbreaking nor as quirky as the hero. and for me design really is important.
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No idea yet..We're using Fedex service for US to Malaysia..I guess it will be about one week..I will take images from the opening of the package all the way till the phone is switched on wink.gif Even I myself am getting eager to get my hands on it..I know everything about it already except two things - the feel of holding it in hands..I have been told its been made of PTFE (Teflon)..If you want to know how Teflon feels like, you know the white tape used to wrap around pipe threads before fixing them into sockets? Thats PTFE. Its very smooth..Just soft..This is the only thing I'm waiting to feel..Hero already feels very good at its back..This is said to be extraordinary..THe second thing is the AMOLED screen..It is verdicted that the screen that is hooked up on Nexus One is so lovely that no other gadget has EVER got a screen this lovely..Not even iPhone..Not even Droid..Not even HTC HD2! I will start a new thread here for my personal Nexus One Malaysia unboxing review..Especially since this set is coming form US and not Singapore..Boy, its a gem! biggrin.gif

You can opt for engraving when you place your order..I didnt choose it though, for two reasons..
1. It will slow down my shipping
2. It will reduce my resale value (although I have no plans to sell this baby forever).

I have to say, Nexus One is the next phone in a generation that strike me so bad that I had to get it..Before this, the previous phone that captivated my attention this bad was he Nokia N95 smile.gif For its era, N95 was a way advanced phone..even today, its a very competitive phone and I keep gems like this..I still have my N95..I was excited about Hero too but not as much as I was for N95 and Nexus One - particularly just because it was Android and I love Google..

Can't wait for my Nexus One! rclxm9.gif


Added on January 8, 2010, 7:16 pmoh, and on a side note, hihihaha is using Melbourne internet..No wonder..Don't expect that to be in Malaysia anytime soon..LOL..
What is that bro? T1? or T3?

My friend in Ukraine just upgraded to his latest package - 55Mbps..Before this, he was using 49Mbps..LOL! I bet he can download videos from the internet faster than transfering them from a pendrive..LOL! Maybe the difference is not even noticable..Sadly our internet is total crap - because we don't have much competition..TM conquers it all for landline broadband..Doesn't that suck?

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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 8 2010, 07:13 PM)
Nope..Using courier methods, you can escape the taxes..That is why I said its an illegal method.. wink.gif Sometimes you just have to be crazy to get something..I really don't care..If they will capture my phone somehow, and ask me to pay the tax..I'll just ask them to use my Nexus One calculator and calculate how much I have to pay for it..haha..What I know is, Nexus One is mine for sure smile.gif
No idea yet..We're using Fedex service for US to Malaysia..I guess it will be about one week..I will take images from the opening of the package all the way till the phone is switched on wink.gif Even I myself am getting eager to get my hands on it..I know everything about it already except two things - the feel of holding it in hands..I have been told its been made of PTFE (Teflon)..If you want to know how Teflon feels like, you know the white tape used to wrap around pipe threads before fixing them into sockets? Thats PTFE. Its very smooth..Just soft..This is the only thing I'm waiting to feel..Hero already feels very good at its back..This is said to be extraordinary..THe second thing is the AMOLED screen..It is verdicted that the screen that is hooked up on Nexus One is so lovely that no other gadget has EVER got a screen this lovely..Not even iPhone..Not even Droid..Not even HTC HD2! I will start a new thread here for my personal Nexus One Malaysia unboxing review..Especially since this set is coming form US and not Singapore..Boy, its a gem! biggrin.gif

You can opt for engraving when you place your order..I didnt choose it though, for two reasons..
1. It will slow down my shipping
2. It will reduce my resale value (although I have no plans to sell this baby forever).

I have to say, Nexus One is the next phone in a generation that strike me so bad that I had to get it..Before this, the previous phone that captivated my attention this bad was he Nokia N95 smile.gif For its era, N95 was a way advanced phone..even today, its a very competitive phone and I keep gems like this..I still have my N95..I was excited about Hero too but not as much as I was for N95 and Nexus One - particularly just because it was Android and I love Google..

Can't wait for my Nexus One! rclxm9.gif


Added on January 8, 2010, 7:16 pmoh, and on a side note, hihihaha is using Melbourne internet..No wonder..Don't expect that to be in Malaysia anytime soon..LOL..
What is that bro? T1? or T3?

My friend in Ukraine just upgraded to his latest package - 55Mbps..Before this, he was using 49Mbps..LOL! I bet he can download videos from the internet faster than transfering them from a pendrive..LOL! Maybe the difference is not even noticable..Sadly our internet is total crap - because we don't have much competition..TM conquers it all for landline broadband..Doesn't that suck?
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n ya i using my university's (RMIT) internet at melbourne
i was once download 3GB file less than 10minutes...lol
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Nope..Using courier methods, you can escape the taxes..That is why I said its an illegal method.. wink.gif Sometimes you just have to be crazy to get something..I really don't care..If they will capture my phone somehow, and ask me to pay the tax..I'll just ask them to use my Nexus One calculator and calculate how much I have to pay for it..haha..What I know is, Nexus One is mine for sure smile.gif
No idea yet..We're using Fedex service for US to Malaysia..I guess it will be about one week..I will take images from the opening of the package all the way till the phone is switched on wink.gif Even I myself am getting eager to get my hands on it..I know everything about it already except two things - the feel of holding it in hands..I have been told its been made of PTFE (Teflon)..If you want to know how Teflon feels like, you know the white tape used to wrap around pipe threads before fixing them into sockets? Thats PTFE. Its very smooth..Just soft..This is the only thing I'm waiting to feel..Hero already feels very good at its back..This is said to be extraordinary..THe second thing is the AMOLED screen..It is verdicted that the screen that is hooked up on Nexus One is so lovely that no other gadget has EVER got a screen this lovely..Not even iPhone..Not even Droid..Not even HTC HD2! I will start a new thread here for my personal Nexus One Malaysia unboxing review..Especially since this set is coming form US and not Singapore..Boy, its a gem! biggrin.gif

You can opt for engraving when you place your order..I didnt choose it though, for two reasons..
1. It will slow down my shipping
2. It will reduce my resale value (although I have no plans to sell this baby forever).

I have to say, Nexus One is the next phone in a generation that strike me so bad that I had to get it..Before this, the previous phone that captivated my attention this bad was he Nokia N95 smile.gif For its era, N95 was a way advanced phone..even today, its a very competitive phone and I keep gems like this..I still have my N95..I was excited about Hero too but not as much as I was for N95 and Nexus One - particularly just because it was Android and I love Google..

Can't wait for my Nexus One! rclxm9.gif


Added on January 8, 2010, 7:16 pmoh, and on a side note, hihihaha is using Melbourne internet..No wonder..Don't expect that to be in Malaysia anytime soon..LOL..
What is that bro? T1? or T3?

My friend in Ukraine just upgraded to his latest package - 55Mbps..Before this, he was using 49Mbps..LOL! I bet he can download videos from the internet faster than transfering them from a pendrive..LOL! Maybe the difference is not even noticable..Sadly our internet is total crap - because we don't have much competition..TM conquers it all for landline broadband..Doesn't that suck?
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Skip to 7:35. I'm really impressed by the voice recognition there. Just hope it can recognize those with accents lol


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i ordered mine! >:]

woohooo!!!
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i ordered mine! >:]

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lol, i read the help section of the site, seems alot ppl are having problems with google checkout status tongue.gif

some of them few days oredi still not shipped and not charged... woohoo... its a waiting game..
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some of my orders also haven't shipped yet. Some within 6 hours already shipped.
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how many u ordered? max per email is 4 is it? correct me if i'm wrong.
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Wow, I dint expect N1 influence in lowyat could be this big..
And 1 more thing I wan to make sure , is it N1 track ball same as htc magic or htc hero? Htc hero trackball just to small. I like magic style trackball much better.
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i saw the N1 trackball will shine/flash once it boot up...
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I'ma wait for carrier such as maxis to bring it to malaysia... In the mean time, I'm quite enjoying my non-smart w995 >< Luckily I didn't bought the hero nor the N97 mini... haha
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I just ordered mine. rclxms.gif

For those planning to order it through your lubang in US, please take into account the applicable sales tax. For eg. my purchase got 8.75% CA sales tax.

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QUOTE(redzanime @ Jan 8 2010, 10:51 PM)
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Yes 5. Right now only 4 is confirmed shipping. Other units are still no response.

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QUOTE(miuk @ Jan 9 2010, 12:14 AM)
I just ordered mine.  rclxms.gif

For those planning to order it through your lubang in US, please take into account the applicable sales tax. For eg. my purchase got 8.75% CA sales tax.

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I'm just wandering whether the malaysian kastam will still tax the phone upon arrival to here. hmm.gif
I know you can appoint private company such as FEDEX or DHL but can you run away from tax this way?
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i'm so excited, i woke up to see if my order's been shipped D:
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Thats why you guys have to use Fedex or DHL..if you guys are going to use US post, your phone might be caught in customs and be sent back to google..No kidding..You guys heard of Microsoft Zune player? Only available in US and Canada..Im one of the proud Malaysians to own it too..My friend shipped Zune using US post and when it reached Malaysia, the customs got their hands on it and sent it back (fortunately) to my friend..Then he used DHL to send to me and it got right to my doorstep smile.gif Another key is, dont tell your friends to be so excited writing "Google Nexus One" as the package content..lol..Just type "gift" so you will be safe..

tera, the trackball is same as on Hero according to my friend..he did say about the trackball having "tricolors"..I'm guessing it can change its glow colors..Size wise will be the same though..I personally find the trackball really cool especially when it "breathes" with light glows..So much that sometime I take time to reply to my SMSes just to see the trackball flashing (on Hero that is)..haha

jepertine90 if you're expecting that from Maxis, I dare to say it will never happen..You know why Nexus One is here and what its main mission is..With Maxis offering its rival, there is no way this phone will get into Maxis' packages..Go to their center, and see their latest phone deals..Even the latest HTC winmo are being offered with packages but none of the androids wink.gif See the competition here? hehe

Then again, Google's domination on internet is so powerful that they can definitely make Android a success without any telco..Iphone has issues with networks in US which I am guessing Google has take as a lesson and hence sell N1 as unlocked phone..Really smart step..Ever wondered if one day, suddenly google blocked its services on iPhone, what will happen? smile.gif Apple needs Google..Google doesnt need Apple..No hard feelings Apple lovers..I'm a mac user..just not iphone lover...haha..I can see many people coming to our family here from iphone..I can feel you guys wink.gif

You guys dare to bet with me? By 2011 end and before 2012 beginning, Android will win over iphone's sales if not earlier than that.. smile.gif

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bro... how long is the shipping period?? i'll be going off to HK sometime next month for training... was wondering if i could order it when i reach.. or should i order somewhere nearing my training and have a friend hold on ready for me to collect??
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For US, it supposed to be overnight. Not sure about HK though
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When someone receive Nexus One, please post a video of UNBOXING!!!
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QUOTE(miuk @ Jan 9 2010, 12:14 AM)
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Interesting. I'll be in CA next week. Will be interesting if able to get one.......by the way, you're paying with your own CC? Can Malaysia CC pay for it but shipping address put in hotel address or my US office address.

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I stumbled at a quite' horror' stories/problems at google phone forum; about the N1's unreliable 3G connection. But, wait and see.

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Goog...040c2&hl=en#all

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how will the battery life be?
does it takes a long to charge like iphone?
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Have anyone buy this phone from google website? can it ship directly to malaysia?
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No the phone only ship to HK Sg USA UK
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QUOTE(RaymondT @ Jan 9 2010, 09:02 AM)
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Interesting. I'll be in CA next week. Will be interesting if able to get one.......by the way, you're paying with your own CC? Can Malaysia CC pay for it but shipping address put in hotel address or my US office address.
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QUOTE(yanhui95 @ Jan 9 2010, 09:50 AM)
how will the battery life be?
does it takes a long to charge like iphone?
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i compare my iphone 3g with my fren's HTC Dream(G1) n mine last longer than him even he off wifi,3g,etc maybe because of the background application
so i think N1 almost the same but who cares? i love the specs n the design...i m happy with my iphone n it wil lb great if i have andriod n apple together with me... haha

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@shaz,

I concur. Some of the important apps which apple offers in iphone is dependent on google. Maps for instance. Without google's support, the GPS is rendered useless.
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I dont think the battery life will be that short..If it has a good CPU management, then it supposedly wont hog the battery that much..Its about the ROM you use too..If you compared Magic with a shipping ROM with iPhone, then I do expect it to lose..But if its on Modaco ROM, I doubt it..My Hero lasted 5 days without charging at maximum battery saving mode..How? I was travelling, and forgot to bring the charging cable..My battery was still about 85% and I switched off the mobile internet, wifi and GPS altogether..Used Hero like a 3310 (just call and sms) and I was really surprised it pulled from Monday to Friday without a single charge..That was on Modaco 2.9..Go ahead, and do that with the iPhone if it can wink.gif My brother is using iPhone and he is complaining about version after 3.0 having no wirless cut-off switch at all..He's on prepaid and his internet was used in the backend sucking up almost RM30 form his prepaid..He was so pissed..I don't even know why did iPhone remove the previously available mobile data cutoff switch..Luckily Android's buttons are straightforward..Cut it and it doesnt use the internet at all..

@Verain Exactly..Thats why Google can really dominate the online world..I'm eager to get my hands on Google Earth on my N1 soon..Yes..Earth..Not Maps wink.gif

I have to say I am really addicted to Android as if its a dose of cocaine..I seem to type a lot when its related to Android..lol..Maybe I really should start blogging..haha..

I will write an extensive review on the Nexus One when mine arrives..You guys want images or video?
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A lot of pic with single vid. smile.gif waiting for ur review. If possible I will do a mini review or nexus one vs htc magic soon inside ur topic coz got forumer willing to give me opportunity to play his N1 when his phone arrive next weekend. I hope u could let me to do so.
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Haha..why wouldn't I let you do it? biggrin.gif In fact, thats a great idea!
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Shah. We have google earth too. Practically most of google's offering we will have it in the phone. The only thing which google does not share with iPhone is streetview. To me this is androids trump card over iPhone. There are times you wish you could see some 3d monument scene rather than looking on 2d images or maps.

You can ask your brother to jailbreak the iPhone and install sb setting.

Certainly looking forward on your review. My anticipation would be on live wallpaper and the great picture gallery.
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Buying in Singapore or in US will be cheaper?
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 9 2010, 05:19 PM)
I dont think the battery life will be that short..If it has a good CPU management, then it supposedly wont hog the battery that much..Its about the ROM you use too..If you compared Magic with a shipping ROM with iPhone, then I do expect it to lose..But if its on Modaco ROM, I doubt it..My Hero lasted 5 days without charging at maximum battery saving mode..How? I was travelling, and forgot to bring the charging cable..My battery was still about 85% and I switched off the mobile internet, wifi and GPS altogether..Used Hero like a 3310 (just call and sms) and I was really surprised it pulled from Monday to Friday without a single charge..That was on Modaco 2.9..Go ahead, and do that with the iPhone if it can wink.gif My brother is using iPhone and he is complaining about version after 3.0 having no wirless cut-off switch at all..He's on prepaid and his internet was used in the backend sucking up almost RM30 form his prepaid..He was so pissed..I don't even know why did iPhone remove the previously available mobile data cutoff switch..Luckily Android's buttons are straightforward..Cut it and it doesnt use the internet at all..

@Verain Exactly..Thats why Google can really dominate the online world..I'm eager to get my hands on Google Earth on my N1 soon..Yes..Earth..Not Maps wink.gif

I have to say I am really addicted to Android as if its a dose of cocaine..I seem to type a lot when its related to Android..lol..Maybe I really should start blogging..haha..

I will write an extensive review on the Nexus One when mine arrives..You guys want images or video?
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hi,im planning to get the Htc HERO,the senQ quote me rm2399 + rm85(processing fee HSBC cc ),is it ok price? smile.gif
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QUOTE(miuk @ Jan 9 2010, 12:44 PM)
Thats what i'm doing now. I'm shipping it over to my friend's hotel room and he'll bring it back for me.
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@Vervain , @hihihehe , I know, I mean, they should've loaded it into the phone by default like how Android could..I am looking forward to Apple's answer to Nexus One if they have one..At least iPhone will not just play around with everyone and come out with more improvements hopefully..Just like our streamyx, for as long as there is no competition, there will be no improvements..It has been said in many places, Apple is actually afraid of Nexus One smile.gif
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Agree. Competition is good for customers. What I like about Apple is their persistence innovation even without clear competitors. But if strong competitors exist, Apple surely will double their innovative spirit.
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Agree. Competition is good for customers. What I like about Apple is their persistence innovation even without clear competitors. But if strong competitors exist, Apple surely will double their innovative spirit.
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"With the Nexus One, Google has taken the most advanced features seen in recent smart phone designs and wrapped them up into a single sleek design," said Kevin Keller, senior analyst, competitive analysis, for iSuppli. "Items like the durable unibody construction, the blazingly fast Snapdragon baseband processor and the bright and sharp Active-Matrix Organic Light Emitting Diode (AM-OLED) display all have been seen in previous phones, but never before combined into a single design. This gives the Nexus One the most advanced features of any smart phone ever dissected by iSuppli's Teardown Analysis Service-a remarkable feat given the product's BOM is similar to comparable products introduced during the past year."

Source: http://gizmodo.com/5444350/googles-nexus-o...l+%28Gizmodo%29
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shahz.. looking forward to your review bro..... would love to see ur review on thier connectivity, ie wifi, 3g etc. and also on emails handling pop3 etc...

i currently winmo user and looking for new phone for replacement. so now its either this or hero...

since price would be not much diffrent from hero this could be my next HP. when is the eta for ur phone bro?
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Whoa..I know I am getting very anxious to get my hands on the phone, but I didnt know so many people are waiting for my review too..I promise I will make a nice, lengthy one biggrin.gif I will test all the features and write an honest review exclusively for LYN..


Added on January 9, 2010, 11:11 pmETA time by right should be within one week..I got all the tracking number etc already..Just waiting for my doorbell to ring one day and get my signature before landing my hands on it biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 9 2010, 11:10 PM)
Whoa..I know I am getting very anxious to get my hands on the phone, but I didnt know so many people are waiting for my review too..I promise I will make a nice, lengthy one biggrin.gif I will test all the features and write an honest review exclusively for LYN..


Added on January 9, 2010, 11:11 pmETA time by right should be within one week..I got all the tracking number etc already..Just waiting for my doorbell to ring one day and get my signature before landing my hands on it biggrin.gif
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ahhh shahz!!
the more i read the more i wana own tat babe!!

Do pls gives us a fantastic review after receiving that babe
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I surely will guys..Appreciate your support guys..To those who are also getting their Nexus One on the way, let us know here..We can have some input from you guys too smile.gif
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Honestly, I think if the Iphone fans are reading this thread they will be laughing at these Nexus One kanchiong spider. Iphone 3GS has reached this state last year. I am sure this year Iphone will be leading with better processor, better GPU (PowerVR SGX545) and with more apps. Android is slowly catching up but still lack behind as Apple is leading the trend here. They set path and Android just follow.

And Shahz, your review will be spoilt if you are writing with your Google fanboy attitude.

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Whoa..iPhone dude..You're in the wrong place here..

First of all, you're comparing iphone which has been on the scene for more than 3 years now against Android which has hardly been here for a year..Still, at this pace, they have already released more than 20 phones so there is no reason why they can't catchup..

Secondly, if you want to talk bad about Android and brag about iPhone, you're seriously on the wrong thread dude..I don't have anything against iPhone lovers, but you want to talk bad about Android, talk in iPhone's thread lar~ No one will say anything..

Thirdly, when I will be writing the review on Nexus One, it will have nothing to do with iPhone at all..Why these guys are looking forward to the review mostly is because I'm using Hero..I compare Android with Android..not with iPhone..and I dont have to..People who are posting here know why they are using Android..Read up the whole thread..Even tera will be comparing Nexus One against Magic (also Android if you don't know)..My advice is, before you flame someone in the future, please get full details of what the whole subject is about.. smile.gif

As far as you saying me having "Google fanboy attitude", thanks..It really means a lot to me..Make me feel like I achieved my karma for being an Android freak already happy.gif
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 10 2010, 12:04 AM)

Thirdly, when I will be writing the review on Nexus One, it will have nothing to do with iPhone at all..Why these guys are looking forward to the review mostly is because I'm using Hero..I compare Android with Android..not with iPhone..and I dont have to..People who are posting here know why they are using Android..Read up the whole thread..Even tera will be comparing Nexus One against Magic (also Android if you don't know)..My advice is, before you flame someone in the future, please get full details of what the whole subject is about.. smile.gif

As far as you saying me having "Google fanboy attitude", thanks..It really means a lot to me..Make me feel like I achieved my karma for being an Android freak already happy.gif
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 10 2010, 12:04 AM)
Whoa..iPhone dude..You're in the wrong place here..

First of all, you're comparing iphone which has been on the scene for more than 3 years now against Android which has hardly been here for a year..Still, at this pace, they have already released more than 20 phones so there is no reason why they can't catchup..

Secondly, if you want to talk bad about Android and brag about iPhone, you're seriously on the wrong thread dude..I don't have anything against iPhone lovers, but you want to talk bad about Android, talk in iPhone's thread lar~ No one will say anything..

Thirdly, when I will be writing the review on Nexus One, it will have nothing to do with iPhone at all..Why these guys are looking forward to the review mostly is because I'm using Hero..I compare Android with Android..not with iPhone..and I dont have to..People who are posting here know why they are using Android..Read up the whole thread..Even tera will be comparing Nexus One against Magic (also Android if you don't know)..My advice is, before you flame someone in the future, please get full details of what the whole subject is about.. smile.gif

As far as you saying me having "Google fanboy attitude", thanks..It really means a lot to me..Make me feel like I achieved my karma for being an Android freak already happy.gif
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Chill guys..Nothing unusual for me..These guys are just "feared" from Android's upcoming..We dare to accept the change smile.gif When we have the best stuff, we still shouldn't point down on rivals..Make rivals the closest friend..Remember that happy.gif


Added on January 10, 2010, 1:06 amBtw guys..14th january is the date for my Nexus One..I just checked it on fedex site..

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I just posted this awhile ago... inside htc magic thread. I think it could help it a lil. Same as shahz I do like if u call us android fanboy or freak ,crazy could be still okay.
I study a lot about android in past 4 months, after targeting which android device I wanna buy, in 2 month I study how to use android, magic and how to tweak/root it. U could noe how eager or crazy I am that time and now comes out nexus one with more advanced and outstanding feature, can any of u could expect how crazy I become now. Nuff said

And with those iphone commercial thing inside spoiler, yes it did fool me and that time I also wanna get iphone for sure, after noe and study about android I din remember a sh** about Iphone already. Google android is just too much thing to care of. Yeah I noe iphone is over price and got a lot of wow factor that time with so-called-rich-ppl-only-handset. Of course u wanna buy it to track ppls attractions and that's the only reason y those short-tech-minded(sorry not targeting any of u) ppl buy iphone for, even they din noe how to use it. Even i study alot bout android already be4 getting its device, when the 1st time i hold it i still blurry of how to use it coz its my 1st time use smartphone . Android got a lot of potentials, so u need to study more to earn its power. I don need wow factor I just need its function, so I buy device not to show off but to appreciate and use all its potential. With this google nexus one release, swipe all of those wow factor for sure and no more for iphone and leave nothing for it or maybe just ONLY pinch zooming selfishness authority inside US country. sry full of offense.

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tera...the last sentence..even that is already added to Nexus One before it was even released..haha..Cyanogen made the multi touch browser already..well said tera wink.gif


Added on January 10, 2010, 1:39 amAlso, check this out..Google takes lesser commission for each phone compared to iPhone smile.gif

"So you're paying $529 for an unlocked Nexus One which actually costs HTC about $174 in just parts, note that doesn't cover expenses such as manufacturing, software, packaging, included accessories, etc. This didn't come as a huge surprise being that in most cases companies get more than a 50% margin on the Smartphones they sell. And for a comparison, the Palm Pre carries a $138 material cost, while the 16GB iPhone 3GS costs about $179."

source: http://www.nexusoneblog.com/blog/2010/1/9/...5-in-parts.html

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First of all, I am no iphone fanboy. I am attracted to Android like you guys do. Just that I do not understand why shahz is so overwhelmed by Nexus One. It is as overated as Iphone. Tell me what is so powerful for Nexus one compare to other phone?

As for multitouch, Droid Eris has multitouch why not Nexus One if it is the best phone for Android?
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 10 2010, 01:36 AM)
tera...the last sentence..even that is already added to Nexus One before it was even released..haha..Cyanogen made the multi touch browser already..well said tera wink.gif


Added on January 10, 2010, 1:39 amAlso, check this out..Google takes lesser commission for each phone compared to iPhone smile.gif

"So you're paying $529 for an unlocked Nexus One which actually costs HTC about $174 in just parts, note that doesn't cover expenses such as manufacturing, software, packaging, included accessories, etc. This didn't come as a huge surprise being that in most cases companies get more than a 50% margin on the Smartphones they sell. And for a comparison, the Palm Pre carries a $138 material cost, while the 16GB iPhone 3GS costs about $179."

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Look at the other thread in Android board where someone is asking about "Nexus One or Droid"..Read my responses and judge me if I'm biased..The thread you are currently posting in is dedicated for Nexus One..That is why it sounds bias towards it (expected huh)..

Also, Nexus One is indeed a craze for me..I am only overrating it here personally because I know already how will it perform..And I am getting one..Spent a lot of money on it..So I suppose I do have the right to spread the flowers with its name smile.gif

Multitouch hardware wise is integrated in Nexus One..Feature is there, just have to be "unlocked"..If you get what I mean..also, read my post above, there is already a mod for the browser's multi touch..

Biggest point Nexus One has over all other Android phones is that its sold by Google itself..Updates etc can be expected quicker than HTC..
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The nexus one has been getting complaints about the 3G/Edge switching and dropping on T-Mobile network. just a fyi.

source: nexus one google support
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QUOTE(SanosukeSagara @ Jan 10 2010, 01:46 AM)
First of all, I am no iphone fanboy. I am attracted to Android like you guys do. Just that I do not understand why shahz is so overwhelmed by Nexus One. It is as overated as Iphone. Tell me what is so powerful for Nexus one compare to other phone?

As for multitouch, Droid Eris has multitouch why not Nexus One if it is the best phone for Android?
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Nexus One is tempting with that new Android 2.1 and large 16m 3.7 AMOLED+Snapdragon

But HD2's Sense UI remains the UI to beat and so far, none has come close

Just my opinion though
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Couldn't agree less..Sense UI is awesome..I love it on my Hero too..

HD2...really sorry for it to be a winmo..
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Couldn't agree less..Sense UI is awesome..I love it on my Hero too..

HD2...really sorry for it to be a winmo..
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WinMo was on the way down until HTC Sense UI came to save it drool.gif Anyway, Android is still very new and probably they'll be much better after a few years.

Tested the HD2 today at KLCC.Sungei Wand and Lowyat don't even have stock sweat.gif Really damn nice~!Sense UI worked flawlessly and when u hold the unit, u can feel the oooompmmmphhhh and the ahhhhhhh.It's just that great~!

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exactly..those taiwan guys really did a great job..the touch just follows your fingers..
Well, I know Nexus One will be my phone for the next 3 years at least..I will keep following up with others who will be buying other Android phones though..Unless got some rich people "sedekah" android phones to us for testing..haha..This is really an expensive hobby..I've spent close to RM8k on Android already..While I have tried most almost all android phones so far, I havent got my hands on the Acer Liquid yet..The only Android I haven't tested..I found out that responsive wise, Acer Liquid is even better than Nexus One..Anyone got this baby? Maybe can share with us?
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jan 10 2010, 01:57 AM)
Nexus One is tempting with that new Android 2.1 and large 16m 3.7 AMOLED+Snapdragon

But HD2's Sense UI remains the UI to beat and so far, none has come close

Just my opinion though
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but, i really like HD2's hardware and appearance, more than Nexus One itself. im just waiting for the day when those good devs on xda to port android to HD2 and i will most def. gonna get HD2 and shove android into its slender, curvaceous body.

but this Nexus One is really tickling my appetite right now. Need. Strength. To. Resist.



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haha..one thing is for sure..Nexus One is going to be exclusive..Hard to find on other hands..In fact most people will not even know what we will be holding..I'm mentally prepared for questions like "eh, you got an iphone?", "what phone is that?" and "whow sexy..i mean..the phone.." tongue.gif
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I hope could get 1 too.... fastest update and biggest potential android phone yet..
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somehow what i think that phone are not build to compete within brands....it built to serve people....function wise, depends on personal usage....choose the one that suit us best, then it will be the best phone for u....that why there are thousands of phones in the market are up for us to pick it....

either iphone or nexus one / other android based phone, the most important is that the phone serve us well....for me, the most important is the promising performance and easy to use, not the very high tech but complicated phone.... design wise, would be the 2nd though after performance.....i had tried out my fren iphone but never gone through with android based phone, but had read through quite alot of reviews and video clips about android as android raised my attention few weeks ago......and recently the announcement of nexus one even raised more attention and im waiting for more reviews of it....and i might own it in the next month or 2, hoho thumbup.gif thumbup.gif rclxms.gif

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Maniacguys, I found your response really amusing biggrin.gif First you declared that phones should not compete. In the later part, you were comparing them which happens to be the reason of competition. lol. Competition is necessary for improvement (was discussed earlier in this thread) and we, the consumers are the main reason for this. Our requirements increase as new products are launched and hence, the competition never ends. I am not sure if there will be another rival to Android, iPhone, and Symbian (lets not talk about Blackberry, Palm and Winmo at all), but ever since Google announced that it will be making an OS for the mobile phones (somethere in Jan 2009 if I'm not mistaken), I already sold my soul to Google tongue.gif I ditched Symbian for Android actually and I have to say, it was a smart move to me.

Btw Maniacguys, I'm also crazy about Ferraris tongue.gif Its the only craze that overcomes any other craze for me. tongue.gif Saw that in your sig..hehe
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Some ppl support the bigdog and some ppl supports the underdogs. That's normal. Hehe. Same thing like intel/amd and nvidia/ati sometime ago.
Due to big advertisement from intel, it led some ppl out there not even knowing there's another brand out there called amd.
Many gamerz knew this and supported amd due to it's cheaper price, and high overclockability at that time tongue.gif (amd k6, cyrix & pentium days). ppl knew about amd's offering have potential at just a fraction of the cost! tongue.gif. Well this story does not apply anymore since intel is the king for now in terms of processors and amd has to play 'catch-up'.

i'm no fanboy but as a geek & gadget freak, i always support any product that has great potential. iphone was one of it but can't buy it due price (and our stupid telco's who dont really bring in cheap subsidized-phones). To me, iphone has good apps rather then good OS. That's why ppl use it. Iphone is great for ppl with intention of gaming-on-go and ease of use. Androids on the other hand have a great OS and is for ppl who wants more pda-like features as well as a slight adventurous guts to tweak their phones ...haha. right? ..LOL

whatever it is, it still boils down to user preferences and their likes. As for me, i always buy anything that is bang for buck instead of coolness factor, regardless of underdogs or bigdogs. if it's good (and cheap) i'll buy it.

back to nexus one/android topic ...i'm in bad need for a new phone ...lol ..my hacked winmo device with 6.5 is dying liao (gotta ditch winmo asap! haha) ... i wonder if it is worth the wait to see htc bravo/passion or even legend to come out first ...as the specs will be more or less the same as nexus one. I bet the sense UI inside these will be better compared to nexus one as they're from htc themselves. Any picks?

QUOTE(zero_hour @ Jan 9 2010, 09:25 PM)
hi,im planning to get the Htc HERO,the senQ quote me rm2399 + rm85(processing fee HSBC cc ),is it ok price? smile.gif
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juz buy shahz hero, cheaper & pre-rooted for u! hehe

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shahz is getting its N1!!! XD

make sure u make a 'quality' and 'quantity' of every single part of it!! XD


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Shahz you did not answer me on my question on Droid Eris' multitouch. Droid Eris has multitouch why Nexus One has none? (to gstoh, Droid Eris is Android phone in US by HTC and Verizon). Personally I think Nexus One is too overated based on what you guys say. What make N1 so special? There is no real technology breakthrough like Iphone did that deserve such a overated support.
AMOLED? Samsung I7500 is the first Android AMOLED phone launched way back in April last year.
Snapdragon and More RAM? HD2 has Snapdragon. The performance of N1 with this spec only can archive the speed of Iphone 3GS with much lower clock. The performance of Android is spotty with Droid (which has the same spec as Iphone 3GS) because Android is built on Java. BTW using clockspeed to define a powerful phone is already last generation (remember Pentium 4?).
Android Market? It has been crippled compared to Iphone Appstore. Fewer apps, not internationally assessable.

To me, N1 is a good phone with a relatively cheaper price too but also a sign of Google showing its evil tail. Google is selling this phone as the Google phone for few reasons:
1. The Android manufacturer is reluctant to update their device and the Google phones are the way Google whip them to update their phone by challenging their products with always updated Android phone.
2. Google Checkout has been a failure due to Paypal. People are using Paypal more than Google Checkout and Google is using the name of Android to bring out Google Checkout. I personally used Paypal for a lot times but Google Checkout only this once.
3. Google phone is the phone to promote Google product like Google Map, Google Voice, Google Earth, Google Navigation and Google Goggles.
4. Make use of its fan base to heighten up their reputation

For those like Shahz who think Android is the triumph in the future, I doubt it will be based on several reasons:
1. Android is chasing the tail of Iphone OS with Iphone continuously making breakthrough, setting the standard and getting their patent.
2. Google has no real intention of making Android. (They do not put money to advertise and real breakthrough need lotsa money thats why Iphone is expensive)
3. Google core business is information based not computer product. Android is another platform for them to utilise their product.
4. If Android fails, they still have ChromeOS.
5. Most importantly, they have capture the wrong fans like Shahz who think Android is powerful because it can customize, mod and hack (and not iphone of course). Yes, Android at its failing point because of you guys. No one really wanna put money to promote and heighten the core competencies of Android because you guys view Android is another Google phone rather than a HTC phone or a Samsung phone or a Motorola phone. These handphone manufacturer still need to compete between each other even they has Android phone series. If they put in cash to invest (like advertising and develop unique apps locked to their phones), and you guys hacked it and put it in other Android phone, its lost of investment for them. It is the real scenario now. Later I will see Xperia x10 UI ported into a HTC Bravo or Motoblur from Motorola ported into this Nexus One. Because of that too they dont wanna invest in multitouch. If they wanna put multitouch in their phone is easy, they just need to pay royalty to Apple. Verizon paid the royalty thats why Droid Eris got it. But why other phone manufacturer dont wanna pay for that? Because paying for that does not buy them the competitive advantage as you guys can hack it into multitouch in any Android phone.

End. To make Android win in this situation, drop the hacking and modding part, it is spoiling Android ecosystem. Develop more apps for Android and urge Google to open Android Market internationally to compete with Appstore. Google must play a part to do a breakthrough. Phone manufacturer must be ready to invest.

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Bro.. u have bring up some good point up there... but really whats is it the problem with google... i cant see why they cant get someone to manufacture a phone for them to promote their software.... its business and its normal...

as for comparison of IPHONE and ANDROID.... i think its good to have competition here since if not we cant see any improvement... so i suggest we the user stop bashing each other since we need each other to enjoy our device...

I am looking forward for Shaz review just for one thing, to see how this phone can fit me.. coz im not gonna try to fit to the phone... im heavy phone user with tonnes of emailing and texting to be done. my research shows that Hero can fit me but looking there is another option here than i wait lil bit longer to see what nexus1 can offer....

Multitouch.. mmmm nice function to have but how often do everyone use it.... i prefer the voice recognition than having a multitouch... i see that this phone have a good one.

Software...mmm is android market is the only option to get the software... cant we just download it from our pc and install it from there just like the winmo? if we can do this than i dont see much problem of not having android market hehe.... well this just me i think...

ahh one more thing can android act as modem.. i think its call tethering is it....
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I am not bashing each other. I just wanna send you guys back to reality where N1 is not that good after all.
Beside 3G problem, i see another bad review. http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/01/09/...rsonal-thoughts
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Hah ah hah ... This is will my FIRST number that I call when I get my N1 in my hand. smile.gif

Also for the forum, it seem that, the T-Mobile 3g/hsdpa data signal is weak. Google should select Malaysia as their TEST country. smile.gif, where celcom 3g rox!! (?) smile.gif... I got 3.2Mbps with my Motorola V3xx and Nokia E52 (p/s: this phone has HSPA 10Mbps!!.

Thank you.
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 10 2010, 04:18 AM)
Maniacguys, I found your response really amusing biggrin.gif First you declared that phones should not compete. In the later part, you were comparing them which happens to be the reason of competition. lol. Competition is necessary for improvement (was discussed earlier in this thread) and we, the consumers are the main reason for this. Our requirements increase as new products are launched and hence, the competition never ends. I am not sure if there will be another rival to Android, iPhone, and Symbian (lets not talk about Blackberry, Palm and Winmo at all), but ever since Google announced that it will be making an OS for the mobile phones (somethere in Jan 2009 if I'm not mistaken), I already sold my soul to Google tongue.gif I ditched Symbian for Android actually and I have to say, it was a smart move to me.

Btw Maniacguys, I'm also crazy about Ferraris tongue.gif Its the only craze that overcomes any other craze for me. tongue.gif Saw that in your sig..hehe
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lolx....i should have say that phone are not build for the fans to bashing each other tongue.gif

lolx...im not actually crazy about ferrari....im crazy to F1 and how kimi drive...unfortunately this season he no longer in F1..... tongue.gif off topic
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QUOTE(SanosukeSagara @ Jan 10 2010, 11:33 AM)
I am not bashing each other. I just wanna send you guys back to reality where N1 is not that good after all.
Beside 3G problem, i see another bad review. http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/01/09/...rsonal-thoughts
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please dude, why are you trying so hard to send us back to reality? is it becoz we dont want to accept that iphone is the best phone in the world?

imho, you dont need to do that. this is the android thread and we love android in here thats why we hype the phone that has android in it. because nexus one really is the best android phone yet.

i know iphone is great. or maybe perhaps it was great in 2007 when it first came out. but now it is just outdated. a lot of other hardware can match it and outperformed the iphone. so that is the true reality dude. but honestly, i cant wait to see what apple will do to improve the iphone. hardware wise and design wise. really they should change the design already coz a lot of china-knock-off-phone look exactly like the iphone nowadays. and perhaps put in some multitasking in so that we can alternate between our twittering and our facebooking and our farting apps.

in fact, we dont want to be trendy. now everyone wants the iphone/blackberry. and wherever you go you can see everyone so hyped about this two platform. so why cant we be excited about our platform that we love? no matter how imperfect it is?

please, no need to bash each other here. or even more, no need to bash the nexus one in here.

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any N1 seller here accept trade in ? I have a storm 9500 here..offer me if u accept..
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Whoa..So long replies..Interesting smile.gif

Okay, I will try to answer as much as possible to all the questions that are carried out..First of all, before SanosukeSagara gets mad at me for not answering his question again, "Why Nexus One does not have multi-touch"..Well, I didn't answer that because it was just answered a few posts before your question..lol..THe hardware is there, you just have to "unlock" it..Now when Apple has patented their multi-touch and think that no one else can use, Google had to remove it from the OS..Longer explaination, read on..

Let me tell you one interesting story my friend. iPhone did not break through anything special other than the multi-touch (which I even wonder if they made it first). When iPhone's first gen came out, its strongest rival at that time was? Right! It was the Nokia N95 smile.gif Remember the YouTube parody videos "I'm an Apple iPhone and I'm a Nokia N95"? Similar to the "Windows vs Mac" parody. That time, N95 stepped all over iPhone with every single features it had. Anything productive. N95 owned! Camera? Stereo sound? Multi-tasking? GPS? 3.5G? everything was led by N95 against iPhone. Only one thing iPhone had better over N95 and that was advertising in US. The "iphone virus" spread so fast, that in a matter of time, there were so many iPhone zombies. So, iPhone is NOT a breakthrough either for the fact. Oh, and now that we are talking about Nexus One NOT being unique form other Android phones, tell me my friend, what was so cool in iPhone 3GS over iPhone 3G? Processor? Apply back the same theory you specified about Pentium 4 smile.gif

For your points, let me take them one by one..Replied in Red

To me, N1 is a good phone with a relatively cheaper price too but also a sign of Google showing its evil tail. Google is selling this phone as the Google phone for few reasons (Google has every reason to be evil if thats the term we want to use here. They provide so many free services for us which we can't avoid. I bet you use Google products too don't you?):
1. The Android manufacturer is reluctant to update their device and the Google phones are the way Google whip them to update their phone by challenging their products with always updated Android phone. (I'm sorry, I don't get you in this point. If you're missing the point, HTC only "manufactured" Nexus One. Google owns it. From the name's trademark "Nexus One" all the way to the selling of the gadget itself. If you're talking about HTC not updating their products, I agree HTC is SLOW in updating their softwares, but bear in mind, they are working across other platforms like Winmo too)
2. Google Checkout has been a failure due to Paypal. People are using Paypal more than Google Checkout and Google is using the name of Android to bring out Google Checkout. I personally used Paypal for a lot times but Google Checkout only this once. (I use paypal too. And I make more than 50 transactions a month on PayPal. My business runs on PayPal. I knew the existance of Google Checkout too, but never had the urge to use it - until I stepped into Android world. If checkout starts getting more famous against PayPal just because of Android, I would seriously thank Android for that. Why? Once again, rivalling strives towards excellence. PayPal's charges are ridiculously high over each transaction. But since its the most famous online payment gateway, you just have to be dragged into using it for whatever they demand. Finally we will have a solid rival then. Thanks Android for that. Also, you never know if Android was part of Google's plan already before checkout was even made. They build a world of their own and use their OWN services unlike iPhone which has to use Google's products to achieve maximum functionality.
3. Google phone is the phone to promote Google product like Google Map, Google Voice, Google Earth, Google Navigation and Google Goggles. Yup! And your point is? We don't expect Apple to promote Google's product do we?lol
4. Make use of its fan base to heighten up their reputation. Thats how every company excels. Fans are the ones who make a company famous. They wouldn't have us if they didn't made great products in the first place. You got a competitor in mind that has made all these products so far other than Google? smile.gif

In the second part that you specified..

For those like Shahz who think Android is the triumph in the future, I doubt it will be based on several reasons:
1. Android is chasing the tail of Iphone OS with Iphone continuously making breakthrough, setting the standard and getting their patent. Tell me one breakthrough they have made other than the multi touch screen. lol. Remember, Android has speech to text feature which is also a breakthrough. I don't see much of its use yet, but its still something new if breakthrough is the concern.
2. Google has no real intention of making Android. (They do not put money to advertise and real breakthrough need lotsa money thats why Iphone is expensive) LOL..You're talking like you work in Google..haha..Dude, they made version 1.0 AND 2.0 within less than a year. They are working on it - really hard. They do spend the money on it. But they don't spread viruses like Apple via advertisment. Google is an advertisment itself. It doesn't need to spend money on advertising further. Internet has more users than TV now so what makes us think that TV advertising will thrive over internet? Oh, and you got any online advertising company better keyword-targetted, better potential, better than Adwords? Good luck in finding one smile.gif
3. Google core business is information based not computer product. Android is another platform for them to utilise their product. Yep, thats why they created Android OS (the software) and not the phone itself. They just do what they are best at. I dont see anything wrong here.
4. If Android fails, they still have ChromeOS. First, they are not related to each other. Second, Android is not going to fail. Its already on the rise. I could give you statistics if you want wink.gif
5. Most importantly, they have capture the wrong fans like Shahz who think Android is powerful because it can customize, mod and hack (and not iphone of course). I suggest you get a line of proof where you can prove that I even said this. Android is Open System. You don't have to go through a stupid jailbreaking process to get root access to it. It means "freedom" if you don't know why we mod our phones. Yes, Android at its failing point because of you guys. Dude! You are talking without any proof! Androids sales are increasing, Android fans are increasing. LYN Android thread is getting more members. PROOF man! Thats what we need! No one really wanna put money to promote and heighten the core competencies of Android because you guys view Android is another Google phone rather than a HTC phone or a Samsung phone or a Motorola phone. (We always address the phone with its NAME. We use terms like HTC Hero, Magic, Dream, Nexus One, etc. We never use the term "Android" unless we're referring to the whole category. You need to hang around here more before you could point finger at us like that! [/COLOR] These handphone manufacturer still need to compete between each other even they has Android phone series. If they put in cash to invest (like advertising and develop unique apps locked to their phones), and you guys hacked it and put it in other Android phone, its lost of investment for them. Says who? You're telling me that all this while, Windows Mobile devices were only produced by Windows? Or are you saying that Symbian was only made by Nokia? Or are you saying that Acer, Dell, HP, etc compete with each other because they use Windows OS in them? Are you from earth bro? In fact, you get choices to pick that one you like the most. Not everyone will like Nexus One, they can go with the Droid. Or Hero. Or Tattoo if they are lower on budget. Unlike iPhone, you just have to adapt to that look. No choice! It is the real scenario now. Later I will see Xperia x10 UI ported into a HTC Bravo or Motoblur from Motorola ported into this Nexus One. That sounds like fun to me. Because of that too they dont wanna invest in multitouch. If they wanna put multitouch in their phone is easy, they just need to pay royalty to Apple. Why would they pay iPhone when its their rival? Apple pays Google for using their services? No right? Verizon paid the royalty thats why Droid Eris got it. But why other phone manufacturer dont wanna pay for that? Because paying for that does not buy them the competitive advantage as you guys can hack it into multitouch in any Android phone. Yeah..So why bother? Thats the purpose of keeping the phone open system at the first place. Your only point is multitouch here. Seriously, my Hero has multitouch and I really dont use it at all. My macbook has multitouch touchpad but I personally use mouse coz I find it easier than the multi-touch.

Seriously dude, its not going to work here. If you want to go head to head with us, why not you get yourself iPhone and regret in the coming 3 years? Because Android is here to stay and we are their supporters. You can try as hard as you want, we will have an answer for everything. But please at least base your statements on true facts and proof.

Oh, and as far as your bad review link is concerned, don't make me post bad review links for iphone - a phone which cant even do multitasking at this generation! Everyone has their own opinions and just because a blogger says he don't like it and he sits in the same boat as you, that is not going to change anything for us. smile.gif I already told you, I dont have anything against iPhone, but you keep stating the points again and again which make me prove iPhone is not good. Why not you gather some iPhone fans in the iPhone board and bash Android there? You will get a lot more support than you will get here.

Here in Android world, we talk about performance. Speed. Multi-task. Internal stuff. Not some junior teenage show off trendy stuff. I don't want to be rude, but I was really disappointed with non-directional finger pointing towards Android. But then again, you cheer me up everytime you say I'm Google's maniac..Thanks for that at least..
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lol chill chill bro
it is up to own preference
like some ppl dun like iphone but i like iphone
i was once not fancy about iphone but once i used it,it was great, FOR ME!!
still, i wan to try android based phone coz it looks "amazing" plus with the name Google behind Nexus One rly makes me "hyper"

i hope i can own both,iphone n nexus one 1 day then i will b more than happy
i still thinking need to own N1 or not coz i heard my bro will getting this soon(i duwan same with my bro tongue.gif)


Added on January 10, 2010, 3:52 pmso in the end,if u think nexus one suitable for u then get it...if not then get others...

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Hah ah hah ... This is will my FIRST number that I call when I get my N1 in my hand. smile.gif

Also for the forum, it seem that, the T-Mobile 3g/hsdpa data signal is weak. Google should select Malaysia as their TEST country. smile.gif, where celcom 3g rox!! (?) smile.gif... I got 3.2Mbps with my Motorola V3xx and Nokia E52 (p/s: this phone has HSPA 10Mbps!!.

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Good news ..PDAExpert at LYP said the nexus will be available this month and the price is unknown yet. Today they offered me the Hero for RM2K instread normal SRP is RM2.3K ...heh..better wait for nexus..
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I find it amusing for throwing strong opinions and preaching it. I have an iPhone, and i am willing to open for other possible improved phone. To me, N1 seems like an eligible target for a change. I like N1 voice to text esp when typing sms (and while *ahem* driving). Give or take? i rather have that than multitouch which i do not use that often. Not like N1 isn't capable of it, i am sure it will turn around soon to make it available. Motorola Driod in UK has it.

iPhone did has it share of pain when it was launched. Go google it.

Looking at the momentum of Andriod update, it is worth thinking again. It is showing dedication and commitment to improve on pronto.

Change of topic....
Come to think about it, N1 should have been released in Msia rather than Singapore as test market. Many SG telcos are already having very competitive plan:

http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/news/view.php?id=15241&cid=1

Some even offering iPhone for free, and very attractive data plan rate. Less people are willing to fork $ to get a new phone when iPhone is given free with data plan. Look at SG forums, lacking of interest on N1. Even Lowyat forum has more pages showing mass interest.

As for malaysia, it is stuck with Maxi$ and charging sky high for this device. It is as good as buying a new phone. Now if i do not have an iPhone yet, I don't mind looking at N1 as an option too since the upfront $ to pay for the phone is around there (i dare say cheaper for N1).

Too bad, Google tested market in the wrong country.
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oreomambo, welcome to android community biggrin.gif We always love new members of course..You're right, they should've launched in Malaysia rather than Singapore..Malaysia is larger than Singapore as well..But actually, the reason behind this is we dont have Google Malaysia branch..Singapore has a branch..Thats why it was distributed there too smile.gif I think if one day Malaysia opens Google's office, I might just apply as their employee..lol

I also agree with your point about the price Maxis charge for iPhone..The money that they will get in commitment will benefit them way more than the price of the phone itself..They should really sell it at cheaper price..If Android comes into a different telco, the competition will be seriously awesome! I know I'll stick to Maxis, and buy unlocked phones unless they offer a solution though..hehe..Whats definite, is that as long as Maxis is in contract with Apple, they are definitely not going to sell Android..Which I think is Maxis' own loss..coz selling Android, they will have more opportunities and packages with fresh ideas all the time wink.gif I should be their CEO I guess..haha


Added on January 10, 2010, 6:12 pmbahathir, happy with the contents of the FTM? haha..to be honest, it was the first code I ran on my Hero too when I bought it biggrin.gif Same bad habit i guess? LOL

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Alright. I shall begin from bottom to top. iPhones do not have voice to text feature on Standalone. You will need to install software like dragon dictation. I think apple will make it a core feature just like It did on multiple language
input.

iPhones by stock do not run the application entirely on the background. applications operate behind the notification feature. Which means some does run but they operate in minimal. Which means you still get the basic updates on notification.

Next is on the multitouch trade. If you ask me. I will not trade voice over text over multitouch. To me multitouch has been a great tool for navigation, as well as to assist in fast typing. Htc hero offers the best keyboard input with multitouch capabilities. To date accurracy of voice recognition isn't as accurate as it seems. I've tried winmo's voice command, symbians voice recognition, even the latest iPhones voice recognition but none of them seem practical for daily use. Don't turn your phone into a genie. Imagine yourself in the train talking to the phone. " zoom in" " next page" " go to www.Lowyat.net " "type honey I miss you so much". People either think you're trying to show off or being retarted. It's a good feature only to those whom are disabled. Basic quick feature to assist like the modern ones are adequate.

iPhones were never strong on the paper specs. They are strong because of the os as well as the supportive apps store and iTunes. Which is why even their first generation phone can experience the same firmware update as the rest of it's siblings. Andriod manufacturers have seen this as the key element on why iPhone has survived. Some announced that their latest phones running under cupcake and donut will eventually be upgradable to eclair. You can check out some reports from latest CES convention.

I'm keeping myself on the borderline. No Doubt nexus one is the best among the andriods to date. I would love to see how google is going to optimize the hardware to it's full glory. It's pointless to have a powerful device when it's only utilizing less than half of it's capabilties. Whether nexus one will win over iPhone we shall sit back and watch the next 6 months.

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FTM smile.gif ... he heh he e.. That is my interest in all of my handphone that I owned... Starting from Nokia 3210 (yup the FIRST antenna-less Nokia phone), E52 (partial FTM) and theMotorola V3xx (partial EFEM), Now... Android!!!. I love looking at the 'CORRECT' signal strength, compared to BARs.


Yeah... everyone has their own preferences. Some like iphone, some like WinMo, some like Symbian, and some like Android.... Me? Except the WinMO, I love them all. Iphone? mmm... 50/50, because too proprietary, and no official client for GNU/Linux. Symbian? Nice, and open source, very good, as just normal phone OS. I hope Android will be good ofr GENERIC purpose, as I am using GNU/Linux (100%) for my daily use. Yeah, nothing is perfect. iPhone, android, symbian, ... has it's own weakness, but, the most important is, I am HAPPY!!! with my choice.

I don't care about multtouch at all. I still can make/receive call and sending sms. Web browsing? Even with touchscreen-less E52, I can use it's built in browser comfortably. Eh, even the tiny E52 brower support inline FLASH!!. and I can watch youtube via normal youtube site. If I got the N1, I'll compared it side by side with my friend's iPhone 3Gs smile.gif...Or, I might let them use mine, and ask their impressions smile.gif



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When will the Nexus 1 come to Malaysia, and how much is the price?
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QUOTE(boonwuilow @ Jan 10 2010, 07:55 PM)
When will the Nexus 1 come to Malaysia, and how much is the price?
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Good news ..PDAExpert at LYP said the nexus will be available this month and the price is unknown yet. Today they offered me the Hero for RM2K instread normal SRP is RM2.3K ...heh..better wait for nexus..
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What i scared is Maxis go monopolized it, then we will have 2 pay alot...
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I think celcom will initiate the deal and bring in the phone.
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QUOTE(Vervain @ Jan 10 2010, 08:11 PM)
I think celcom will initiate the deal and bring in the phone.
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So, that mean if we wanted to buy this phone, we will have to get passed Celcom 1st???
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Naah..dont worry, Maxis will not monopolize it smile.gif Even if they do, they have competitors and the unlocked phone is not that expensive..I like one statement made by Vervain when he said "It's pointless to have a powerful device when it's only utilizing less than half of it's capabilties." Actually, its like buying a Ferrari but using it for normal driving..No point right? Exactly..But what when one day, someone goes by you and shows off in front of you asking you to race..Foolish to race with a Ferrari, but if it happens, you will have all the power you need under the hood..That said, we can't predict what happens after Eclair..Maybe Android 3.0 will be out this year..who knows..at least if it does, our Nexus One will be all ready to adapt it..Otherwise, lags, etc would annoy your wouldn't it? Just like those times when people were buying XP computers which were ready for Vista..They were too fast for XP but when Vista was installed, it could support it..not as fast as XP, but usable..Thats the point of having "juice" under the hood..You never know when you need it smile.gif

bahathir, GNU/Unix just ROCKS! I too ditched Windows for good..But instead of Linux, I use MacOSX.. biggrin.gif Thing about MacOSX is, its like Linux with beauty..Like you too, I'm surrounded by Linux and MacOSX stuff daily..No windows strictly tongue.gif


Added on January 10, 2010, 8:21 pmEh..don't spread verdicts like that..There is no single word about Celcom planning to bring in Android yet..Google's planning is to keep Android unlocked rather than bound to carrier..However, they cant escape it..Thats for sure..hehe..I do expect Celcom or Digi to bring it in soon..Somewhere in this month or next, there might be news about Nexus One released by HTC..But thats about it..We just wait and see smile.gif

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I really hate Maxis or other ever that monopolized the product.
Just like iPhone...
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I'm keeping my thoughts open. Why I say celcom because they did sell off magic under their network. So no surprise celcom will seize this opportunity and bring in the phone.
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"Why Nexus One does not have multi-touch"

I remember read from somewhere.. because Apple owned copyright on pinch to zoom multitouch technologies in State.. that why N1 hardware is there..

Nexus One totally does Multitouch in Euro version..not sure about Asia..

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/surpris...oes-multitouch/


Added on January 10, 2010, 9:22 pm2010 would be Android year...more manufacture get into android... even Acer & Dell.. good...

In future...ppl buying phone hardware and choose OS as they like... smile.gif



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I love the Google nexus one ...

When will launch in malaysia ?
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Guys, please read the thread before repeating the same exact questions over and over again..
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Shah, when do u expect to receive yours? I think a lot of people here are waiting for your review. haha
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Frankly speaking,

If I ever have the chance, I wish I could own an Iphone and a Nexus One and a WinMo phone because I just love them all. rclxms.gif

All three of them have their own pros and cons. You may like it or you may not.

So, no point arguing. smile.gif

All three of them have their potentials to grow in the future so why judge so early?

Take WinMo as example, if you hate any winmo phone before the HD2, give HD2 a try and IMHO, you'll say " wow, thats different!" drool.gif

Win7 is coming, Iphone version 4 is rumored to be arriving and the still-developing Android is giving surprise every now and then. laugh.gif

lets just sit back and watch the grow rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(frankgan @ Jan 11 2010, 12:21 AM)
Frankly speaking,

If I ever have the chance, I wish I could own an Iphone and a Nexus One and a WinMo phone because I just love them all.  rclxms.gif

All three of them have their own pros and cons. You may like it or you may not.

So, no point arguing.  smile.gif

All three of them have their potentials to grow in the future so why judge so early?

Take WinMo as example, if you hate any winmo phone before the HD2, give HD2 a try and IMHO, you'll say " wow, thats different!"  drool.gif

Win7 is coming, Iphone version 4 is rumored to be arriving and the still-developing Android is giving surprise every now and then.  laugh.gif

lets just sit back and watch the grow rclxms.gif
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not the winmo make the different is the htc sense make it.
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I always liked Winmo. But with this recent launch of N1, I think it is about time to upgrade or even better own a 2nd phone for myself.

Is it possible to buy from SG?
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irwan, its reaching on the 14th..Was the fastest I could get..Ordered instantly when the page was launched at 3am on 5th January, didnt pick engraving at all so it wouldn't slow down the delivery. Reached my friend on the 7th January at 4pm. He couldn't send it down on that day because Fedex was going to close when the phone reached him. Next morning at 7:30am he was already awake to send it to Fedex..I asked him to use priority shipping..For $133 USD, Fedex will deliver to my doorstep on the 14th January..It could've been faster if it was from Singapore, but I wanted a purely original US sold Nexus One..hehe..

I promise, on the 14th January, I will have my camera ready and the moment it arrives, I'm going to do some intensive testing on the spot..I will be taking unboxing images first, then once the device is out and loaded, I will do a video review for the features and performances..

I've also prepared a spam email address specially for testing it..You guys can send emails to the address in my signature. Send HTML emails..Send text emails..Send attachments..I have set a quota of 250MB for this e-mail to avoid excess junk..lol..After 14th, this email will be deleted..Start sending now.. smile.gif

jianwei87, you are right..The HD2 is indeed magically interesting just because of SenseUI biggrin.gif I heard a lot of sweet words on Win7 mobile..Then again, its Microsoft and I don't believe in their promises anymore.. smile.gif
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well been using WINMO for 3 to 4 years already... mmm... and im using the 5.xx version.. hahaha... and still using it...

well what can i say is the os doesnt make much diffrent, my 6828 still running fine just that the batt is dead too fast now.... even my fren 02 with 6.xx look so normal compared to mine.... (Dont compare the hardware lah ofcourse 6828 is one old hag already by now)

i think what make the diffrent is the software we used in the phone... for me to make my phone alive, must have certain compulsary software in it... then im gonna live with that phone for long long time....

My next upgrade is android, and it could be nexsus 1. for the reason of customization, since the end is limitless.....

Just realize that i cant buy n1 online.. dammmmm i thought they are open to all since purchase is straight from google... is there any other option to get N1... wish to use cc for purchase hehe

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Off topic for a while..if that boy is your kid..he's darn cute! biggrin.gif
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OT: hehe nope my nephew.... hehe been living with me since day 1, that is his first day into gaming world... hehe bad uncle i am..
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Actually not bad this uncle..Hehehe..Your nephew will definitely thank you when he grow up..Especially if he grabs a guitar one day wink.gif My nephew is almost like this too..Except he is addicted to the real guitar..Cute when these kids call the guitar just "Ta"..haha
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- Five things you should know about the Nexus One -

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/30467/five...us-one#comments


Nexus One – The Dummies Guide

http://www.fonearena.com/blog/2010/01/06/n...mies-guide.html


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woo long reply. Anyway I am not Iphone fanboy and I am not ur enemy. Continue ur nexus one.
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just saw google has solution for couldn't connect to 3g in singapore

http://vr-zone.com/articles/google-announc...users/8261.html

not sure will there by any problem connecting malaysia telco..
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irwan, its reaching on the 14th..Was the fastest I could get..Ordered instantly when the page was launched at 3am on 5th January, didnt pick engraving at all so it wouldn't slow down the delivery. Reached my friend on the 7th January at 4pm. He couldn't send it down on that day because Fedex was going to close when the phone reached him. Next morning at 7:30am he was already awake to send it to Fedex..I asked him to use priority shipping..For $133 USD, Fedex will deliver to my doorstep on the 14th January..It could've been faster if it was from Singapore, but I wanted a purely original US sold Nexus One..hehe..

I promise, on the 14th January, I will have my camera ready and the moment it arrives, I'm going to do some intensive testing on the spot..I will be taking unboxing images first, then once the device is out and loaded, I will do a video review for the features and performances..

I've also prepared a spam email address specially for testing it..You guys can send emails to the address in my signature. Send HTML emails..Send text emails..Send attachments..I have set a quota of 250MB for this e-mail to avoid excess junk..lol..After 14th, this email will be deleted..Start sending now.. smile.gif

jianwei87, you are right..The HD2 is indeed magically interesting just because of SenseUI biggrin.gif I heard a lot of sweet words on Win7 mobile..Then again, its Microsoft and I don't believe in their promises anymore.. smile.gif
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Strange that you've choosen US model instead of SG. I believe you do know that US model doesn't come equipped with multitouch (at least disabled on software).

Also, it may be more hassel/cost for warranty return if there are showstopper problems (touch wood) compared to hopping SG next door for a return unit.
14 days for return full refund may be used up in shipping duration alone.

Is there some other reason you've took US model instead?

Btw, I'll still observe the situation with the 3G. Heard there will be an OTA update today in US to solve this 3G issue, so lets see.

I've kinda given up hope on Msia getting an official N1. Since there isn't any GOOG office here, it may take longer for local telco to tie up with GOOG (and at the end, even cost more!!, *hint* maxi$)

Once you receive ur device, hope you have the time still to give it a full review (and unbias one). Also let us know the hassel of going through the custom.. *ugh*.

I have the option of grabbing the HK or SG unit since i have people/colleagues dropping by in 2 weeks time. Wonder if there will be any difference with the HK one.
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1. All the device are same. by default it's multitouch capable but the software did not incorporate it due to.... read previous post.

2. Warranty claim is international. check google's site for further information.
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QUOTE(Vervain @ Jan 11 2010, 11:23 AM)
1. All the device are same. by default it's multitouch capable but the software did not incorporate it due to.... read previous post.

2. Warranty claim is international. check google's site for further information.
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I've read the warranty statement from Google, but yet i've seen a distinct notion of international warranty on any HTC local office.

So if we took N1 back to msia, problems were found, send it to local HTC office, you'll run into the risk of local HTC saying "we do not support/service this model in this country".

Same goes with PS3, if you buy it from SG, you had to return it to SG for warranty if poop hits the fan. * though i did not read a PS3 warranty*

So shall we wait for Shaz's unit to kaput and see how he go through local HTC warranty? *evil grin* heh...
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Its really funny that the "3G problem" that people are complaining is actually just setting up APN on the phone. That is not a problem (aduh!)..Its just the setting..How dumb could the complainers be? I mean..They're using a superphone when they don't even know how to setup APNs?! @_@

oreomambo, its actually a good question you asked me there. Why I bought the US version and not SG/HK version? Just because I wanted Google's first ever gadget right from its main HQ..Thats why smile.gif I really am Google's fanatic (or freak maybe?) and I have already studied about Nexus One before its first few images were even released. Been waiting since last year so I was ready for anything to come against me (bills, customs, etc).

If you didn't read earlier, I have bought a Microsoft Zune player using the same technique from US. I like to collect "rare" items (stuff that is quality, and can't be found in our country) and sometimes I can pay really crazily for them too. Call it a craze or hobby. I dont know.

Like my Zune which has been working excellently for almost 2 years now, I believe my Nexus One will function just perfectly as well. 0.00001% chance that it will break down on me. None of my phones were ever claimed with warranty and when the warranty voids, I actually fix my phones myself if there are any problems.

Worried about my Nexus One? haha..I will not rip my Nexus One of course (I wouldn't rip my hero too if it were "kaput")..What will I do? My dad lives in Holand and works there. He vists me back a couple times every year..I can seek his help to get it fixed for me smile.gif

If you can't afford to bear the warranty, might as well you don't buy the phone..Thats my personal advice..My brother could've bought his iPhone from Maxis, but he bought his original version from Belgium..How cool is that? smile.gif It's just a self-pride thingy really. Nothing to show off to be honest. I will be all happy myself looking at my Nexus One knowing it came specially from the Google's HQ..

What is for sure is, I always buy original gadgets particularly because I have had a bad experience with AP stuff. If you want to know the story, its very long. If you are not interested, it will just waste space on this forum..haha..But it taught me one definite lesson "Money can't buy lives"..For a little extra money, you can get original stuff which will reduce your life risk, its definitely worth it! Because if we die because of a gadget, it will be worse than "mati katak" and you will never have a chance to fix the mistake once its over smile.gif

Woah..Nexus One philosophy class..LOL!!


Added on January 11, 2010, 5:23 pmOh yeah..missed one important point..Nexus One from SG/HK/US/Euro all will have multitouch HARDWARE..but it will not be activated..I know I will get mine to multitouch soon (although I dont use it that much though).. smile.gif

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waiting for your review shahz .... hopefully with lots of images ... rclxms.gif
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haha..I hope the forum allows me the permission to upload all those images too happy.gif

Also guys, start sending your emails to the add in my signature..They will only appear on my Nexus One when its loaded..
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sent an email to that address, hope N1 can really handle HTML format email..

just few more days to come.. hehehe
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Yeah..Personally, I use GMail more than my push emails..Reason, I have setup all my POPs redirect to GMail and it manages them really well form one center..No issues about archives on server..I will also test GMail on Nexus One..But its the POP3 account that i'm really looking forward to smile.gif

I will test the POP3 with 3G rather than WiFi..you can forward HTML emails or send some attachments..
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shahz, is there a good file explorer for Android? Something like RescoExplorer on the Palm OS? Also, is there an easy way to view and change the file/folder structure of an Android device on a Windows computer?

I'm waiting for the right platform to ditch Palm OS and I think Android maybe it. My new platform should be very open and give me full control of the content I put or create on it. I have half a mind to buy the N1.

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For me Astro File Manager is the one I use for my Hero. Great function in it. Maybe it also can be use in N1. Havent try the Linda File Browser yet.
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Shahz : He hehe he.. you are google mania. smile.gif Mmm... I don';t know whether I am a google mania or nat,, but I already using google since their system was in Stanford.edu in 1990's, where it was only indexing several hundreds of pages only. smile.gif. Those days, yahoo was the most poplular search engine, but, I used Excite, and then Google.

Today, I have Google mail l, Google \/\/ave, Google VOICE, Google Checkout, ..... and soon ... the Google PHONE!!.

Ooo.. the spotty 3G was because of APN settings? smile.gif he heh he heh e... Wow!!! and this simple problem became massive chaos in the Net... Fuuuhhhh.... O ya... since I have Google Voice, I can call any US numbers for FREE from Malaysia, and through my E52, and next, will be the N1. So, have problems with N1, I can directly call US support numbers smile.gif


Thank you.

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innards, Astro File Manager rocks! Its like the best file explorer for Android and above all, its totally free! Linda file manager is fine too but I personally love Astro File Manager..Its consistently updated too smile.gif


Added on January 11, 2010, 8:48 pmbahathir, exactly! When I first got my hands on internet back in 1997, Yahoo was hype! Google wasn't available yet..Somewhere late in 1998, Google came out and ever since then, I became their huge fan..GMail was launched sometimes later, I signed up for their personal invitation but I didnt got it..My friend however, got an invitation and he had 5 invitations out of which he gave me one..Its still the GMail account I use till today smile.gif Then, I started using more and more of their services like Earth, Talk, YouTube, etc..Then Google Chrome came out and was another huge leap in internet browsers world..Sadly it wasnt available for mac.. Then, one day..I got to know about Wave coming out soon..I requested a beta tester account and I actually got it this time..Had lots of fun with Wave too but there are still improvements necessary for Wave..Then came out Android OS and Chrome OS..The day it was announced, I already sworn myself to get an Android phone where my Android legacy began..Then came out Chrome for Mac..which I have to say was the best thing google did among all! If one day Google makes Chrome OS available for computers and notebooks, bringing it in rival with Windows and Mac, I know what will my OS be then smile.gif At that point I will be fully Googled..haha

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heh heh eh e... shahz... you are really google mania...smile.gif Nice to meet you smile.gif

Ooo.. forgot about the Chrome OS smile.gif ... Ok, I downloaded the VMware image from gdgt, and runs fine with on KVM/Qemu in GNU/Linux environment. Few days latter, I extract the VM image into raw image and dd it to mu thumb drive... Result? Yup, it can be booted directly and natively in my Laptop (Thinkpad T61) as a Live (CD). The Chrome OS boots very quick, around 7 seconds, but, it is just GNU/Linux Ubuntu 9.10 with full screen Chrome. But enough for simple use.


BTW, there are reports about short battery life... and here is my theory. smile.gif
1) N1 = Google Phone
2) Google = Cloud computing
3) Cloud = Internet
4) Intenet = Wifi or 3G or Edge or GPRs

Yeah. if you enabled auto sync in your IM, mail, facebook, SIP .... apps, all the time, then, N1 will connect to wifi or 3g continuously. I realized this, when I enabled SIP phone features with my Nokia E52, where the battery life reduced dramatically.

So... if you have the N1, make sure you disabled any online/Internet apps or auto sync, when you are not using it. .

Thank you.

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Nice to meet you too Bahathir..Yeah..ChromeOS was built with the Ubuntu kernel..I tried it on my friend's netbook and it actually loaded like a PDA..Almost didnt see the startup at all.. @_@

Its actually very useful for a netbook really..When you are on the move and need quick internet usage with not much stuff to be done (perhaps just logging in to check email or reading new posts on LYN?) then its seriously nice..There are more mods coming its way..I guess Google is hard at work with that too..
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Ok, see my updated posts for N1 tips smile.gif

Yes, I agreed with you, the ChromeOS will be a small OS resides in netbook partitions, or in future, it will be in the ROM... So, we may see a Goggle ROM or BIOS in near future!!!, and it is not impossible...

Google : All your 'computers' belong to US !!! smile.gif

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Well, that depends on what they mean by "short battery life"..To me, if my daily usage can last one day, thats more than enough for me..Daily Usage to me is considered extreme usage for some users..That includes:
- 3G always ON
- WiFi always ON
- GPS always OFF
- GMail always running with at least minimum 25 times accessed in a day
- GTalk always running with about 2 - 3 chats a day
- Twitter always on with at least 5 accesses a day
- Facebook running minimum 1 time a day
- About 5 - 10 calls a day of about 5 - 15 minutes length
- About 5 - 100 SMS a day
- About 3 - 5 pages loading a day

All this was useable on my Hero without much problem..I would charge the battery at night when the status would still be yellow (not red yet)..Sometimes my Hero was able to gush the power all the way till the next morning and it would still be red warning..

Hero is 1350mAh and Nexus One is 1400mAh..I suppose I will be comfortable on Nexus One with that usage..Of course we don't use our phones like we use our laptops / desktops..But this is already good enough..People like me who do internet business, these phones carry my business together smile.gif
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looks like very nice nexus one
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Battery lifespan is one big big issue with me...

if i got the phone, can it withstand this:

3g always on
calls: almost 4 to 5 hours of talk time a day
sms: bellow 100 a day
email: at least sync every 30 minute day time only...

on my current phone the batt cant last for 3 hours without charging but that only for calls and SMS, but expecting this whole thing as daily routine if i got a new phone plus lil bit of FB and surfing... ehehehe can the N1 batt or Hero batt last a day with this kind of usage.....

i think they should offer higher mah batt lah...
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i think should be fine..although 4 - 5 hours of talktime is the only thing that may use up the battery..
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good to hear.. hehehe i think upgrading to N1 or the lower Hero should be fine for me since iam using tech of 3-4 years back...... when i switch to new phone later the feeling is like upgrading to evo 10 from kancil hehehe
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QUOTE(mambo @ Jan 12 2010, 12:23 AM)
good to hear.. hehehe i think upgrading to N1 or the lower Hero should be fine for me since iam using tech of 3-4 years back...... when i switch to new phone later the feeling is like upgrading to evo 10 from kancil hehehe
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if i upgrade my current phone to n1 it will be like from bicycle to rocket then tongue.gif
as for my current phone, when jatuh won't sakit hati, battery life could easily last me 5-7 days, and it got a mini torch light on it's top to help me find stuff in the darkness......

i guess i gonna wait after cny before getting the n1, most likely through my friends in singapore
unless google officially sells it to malaysia

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But, the CPU is a smart CPU, with proper OS, the CPU cloc is varies based on the system load. It is similiar to SpeedStpe or AMD PowerNow! features.

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the more i read this thread, the more i want
how i wish i m working now so tht i can get this "baby" easier than now

i saw the review,the home button not rly responsive
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Yeah..Android runs on Linux kernel..Linux has the cpufreq selectors which can be adjusted accordingly..What you guys didnt know, for those using Hero's Teknologist' kernel, the CPUfreq is clocked at its maximum speed..Even the minimum clock is set to 527Mhz tongue.gif This way, the Hero runs at its maximum speed at all times..But the surprising part is that battery, instead of drawing more power, gave more juice and was able to run at longer periods..That explains the excitement in my twitter a few months ago when I was talking to teknologist..We had trial and errors and it turned out to be a lot of fun smile.gif

Thats why, what CPU has become today is not what they used to be in the older days (like ARM etc) smile.gif
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i'm ordering one tomoro... and one thing to clarify... does it support celcom 3g? it might have been asked before... but the answer doesnt seem to convince me.... just hope that they wont bring it into malaysia so soon too... dilemma....
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yes..i dont see why it will not support smile.gif
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I'm still reading reviews here and there, watching review videos etc. Quite a mixed review I would say. I'm comparing between HD2 and N1. Nothing much on hardware difference, almost identical and each has it's pro & con, but nothing major.

One of my primary reason to get a PDA phone (also come out as the highest percentage of usage rate in PDA survey) is GPS. Seems like Android support only Papago, but wonder when will it be available for Android 2.0?

Other than that, apart from faster (almost instantaneous I say!) response time, while HD2 still suffer some lag issue. Not as bad as HD, and in fact was a significant improvement from HD I say. But in terms of photo browsing, file browsing, switching tasks, there is noticable lag, nothing irritating though, just a gist of lag when compare with N1.

Again, I'm not familiar with Android, much has been said about its ability of customization. But seems like users need to go through a lot of (maybe endless) troubleshooting. Seems like the problem on the same model can be sooooo much different than other phone. It's not consistent can seems like there is not general rule or set of rules which can be use in troubleshooting this kind of problem(?)

Anyone has any say about this?
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Ahh..nice Nexus One. Seems like many devs already have this (paul, cynogen, etc..). Sure u guys will have fun with custom roms later. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Aurora @ Jan 12 2010, 07:12 AM)

One of my primary reason to get a PDA phone (also come out as the highest percentage of usage rate in PDA survey) is GPS. Seems like Android support only Papago, but wonder when will it be available for Android 2.0?

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em..why would you want papago when you've got google gps for free?

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Astro and EStrongs File Explorer is great and free too. EStrongs also can access your windows share file/folder ( probably using samba ), very nice when you need it.
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QUOTE(Naka7a @ Jan 12 2010, 03:18 AM)
i'm ordering one tomoro... and one thing to clarify... does it support celcom 3g? it might have been asked before... but the answer doesnt seem to convince me.... just hope that they wont bring it into malaysia so soon too... dilemma....
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of coz it can work with our local 3g...
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 12 2010, 03:09 AM)
Yeah..Android runs on Linux kernel..Linux has the cpufreq selectors which can be adjusted accordingly..What you guys didnt know, for those using Hero's Teknologist' kernel, the CPUfreq is clocked at its maximum speed..Even the minimum clock is set to 527Mhz tongue.gif This way, the Hero runs at its maximum speed at all times..But the surprising part is that battery, instead of drawing more power, gave more juice and was able to run at longer periods..That explains the excitement in my twitter a few months ago when I was talking to teknologist..We had trial and errors and it turned out to be a lot of fun smile.gif

Thats why, what CPU has become today is not what they used to be in the older days (like ARM etc) smile.gif
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About the cpufreq, if you can access the terminal, can yoy run this for me smile.gif

# cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors
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# cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
and your current cpu governor is
# cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor

BTW, this is my GNU/Linux system, and might be slightly different from the Android. Anyway,
and you can check your current cpu speed and features with
cat /proc/cpuinfo


There are several types CPU scaling/speed controls, such as conservative, userspace, powersave, ondemand and performance. where you can manually assigned to kernel buy echo the governer name to the this /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor

Cool eh... you can use UNIX command in your phones, and can do anything you want. smile.gif

Thank you.
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Darn i was trying to order but it said not available to our country. I was thinking of shipping it to my fren in sg then she can bring it to me....
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QUOTE(zerigemok @ Jan 12 2010, 10:30 AM)
em..why would you want papago when you've got google gps for free?
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First, Google map is only for map viewing, not navigation. And to use it, you need to have data connection. Meaning it's not free browsing. I have subscription to data plan, but knowing our Malaysia 3G connection, it's not always consistent. Some location if you can't have signal, or only edge or gprs reception..... seems like its going to be a painful experience. sad.gif

For file exploring, erm, I think it's a basic need. Not exactly something to shout-about for existing WinMo user, but for Apple user, its a huge leap. Poison from N1 not strong enough.. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Aurora @ Jan 12 2010, 12:52 PM)
First, Google map is only for map viewing, not navigation. And to use it, you need to have data connection. Meaning it's not free browsing. I have subscription to data plan, but knowing our Malaysia 3G connection, it's not always consistent. Some location if you can't have signal, or only edge or gprs reception..... seems like its going to be a painful experience.  sad.gif

For file exploring, erm, I think it's a basic need. Not exactly something to shout-about for existing WinMo user, but for Apple user, its a huge leap. Poison from N1 not strong enough..  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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if im not wrong, google map also got offer navigation inside N1
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Yeah it supports navi for sure. You might have a point with data connection though


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Now, that's amazing... hmm, hopefully someone can share his experience as soon as he gets the phone (shahz!). Then again, it maybe limited to few big city (for malaysia). And map updates, who's doing it for Malaysia?

We have a lot of one-way street, fly-over/underpass, road closure, and some roads junctions are just plan messy. I've been using Garmin for some time, there are minor occasion where I still took the wrong turn. IMO, it's excusable, considering I will probably get lost.

Some reviews from Malaysia road user would be nice...... smile.gif biggrin.gif
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Google maps of coz as the navi is based on it. So you can be sure it's gonna be updated all the time.

I have a garmin 350 in msia, but found that it'll take the longer route for some reason lol. Maybe it's becoz i'm using the free malsingmap. No complain about reliability though, it'll get me there for sure.

I myself am still thinking about this or droid. Touch choice lol. Gonna wait for some more detailed reviews
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I have Garmin XT in my E52 and Garmin Nuvi 755T with Malfreemaps (MFM) maps, and for navigation purpose, I''ll pick the NUVI for better accuracy and faster satellite signal lock.

Anyway, GPS in handpone also comes handy if your are in very needy/emergency situation. Example, find the nearest police stations, hosptals or 'mamak stalls'

Thank you

p/s: To Garmin nuvi users, please try MFM maps which are TOTALLY FREE with no limitation and updated WEEKLY!!! (on Monday). You also can get Indonesia maps and soon Thailand's maps too. IMHO, MFM is THE BEST mapping community ever smile.gif.

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QUOTE(boxcar-ST @ Jan 12 2010, 11:17 AM)
nice to see some1 from SNC orfering this phone  thumbup.gif
of coz it can work with our local 3g...
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sorry off topic
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QUOTE(Aurora @ Jan 12 2010, 01:27 PM)
Now, that's amazing... hmm, hopefully someone can share his experience as soon as he gets the phone (shahz!). Then again, it maybe limited to few big city (for malaysia). And map updates, who's doing it for Malaysia?

We have a lot of one-way street, fly-over/underpass, road closure, and some roads junctions are just plan messy. I've been using Garmin for some time, there are minor occasion where I still took the wrong turn. IMO, it's excusable, considering I will probably get lost.

Some reviews from Malaysia road user would be nice...... smile.gif biggrin.gif
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Yeah pretty much that. That's why we need a lab rat to do some testing about that tongue.gif
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I read a post where someone said their N1 felt hot, like laptop hot. That draws some concerns. Anyone read anything similar? Or know anyone with similar first hand experience?
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QUOTE(vermins @ Jan 12 2010, 03:38 PM)
I read a post where someone said their N1 felt hot, like laptop hot.  That draws some concerns.  Anyone read anything similar? Or know anyone with similar first hand experience?
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if hot than normal
but if hot like laptop then it will b weird especially with small device
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http://thenextweb.com/uk/2010/01/06/buying...s-one-uk-guide/

One of the comments at the bottom by a 'Rick'.

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I’ve had mine now for 36 hours and here are my first impressions

This phone is very fast it has a 1ghz processor, almost twice as fast as most other smarphones. The downside of this is that this phone gets very hot. Hotter than any phone that I’ve had before as hot as my Sony Vaio on my lap. It may not be anything to worry about but in my experience it doesn’t do much for the life of lithium ion batteries if the device gets this hot.

It also has a very bright very colouful screen, much better then the iPhone however some of the apps that I’ve downloaded must have been written for a different resolution as they look blurred


So unless hes a fanboy or he has a defect unit, I don't see why he would be making it up.
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most probably a defect unit, imagine how many google staff tested on this phone before official release
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QUOTE(garytey @ Jan 12 2010, 04:56 PM)
most probably a defect unit, imagine how many google staff tested on this phone before official release
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Google staff would have picked up the 3G connectivity issue, but that didn't happen...

I've seen another post somewhere reporting of a hot device problem. Someone left it charge overnight while running an application/music in the background. It went hot and not responsive in the morning.

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QUOTE(bahathir @ Jan 12 2010, 11:46 AM)
About the cpufreq, if you can access the terminal, can yoy run this for me smile.gif

#  cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors
and
# cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
and your current cpu governor is
# cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor

BTW, this is my GNU/Linux system, and might be slightly different from the Android. Anyway,
and you can check your current cpu speed and features with
cat /proc/cpuinfo
There are several types CPU scaling/speed controls, such as conservative, userspace, powersave, ondemand and  performance. where you can manually assigned to kernel buy echo the governer name to the this /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor

Cool eh... you can use UNIX command in your phones, and can do anything you want. smile.gif

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That is exactly what we played with the Teknologist kernel (well, one of the features of course)..If you are on Hero, our governors are set to "performance" for min and max..Even for wake up happy.gif

As for the GMaps navigation, Malaysia is NOT yet supported for point-by-point navigation..I also heard about the hack in XDA..I will try to see if I could get my hands on it and will give that a shot..but of course at least one week after I got my Nexus One..I'm sure other than rooting and flashing custom ROM, I don't want to jeopardize my Nexus One blindly compared to my Hero..hahaha..

I will test the GPS around Port Dickson area..We have 3G here which is not hogged by extreme users..I will show the length of time it takes to connect to the GPS satellite while on the move, and the accuracy of it smile.gif

QUOTE(vermins @ Jan 12 2010, 03:38 PM)
I read a post where someone said their N1 felt hot, like laptop hot.  That draws some concerns.  Anyone read anything similar? Or know anyone with similar first hand experience?
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If it was connected with the charger and left, then I am sure it would've heated up..Even my Hero gets very hot when its charged and being used at the same time on long hours (particularly 2 - 3 hours of continuous usage)..I doubt its the processor that heats up..I think it must be the battery rather..I personally will test that on my phone too and see if it happens..On a side note, when this phone was being manufactured, it was winter seasons..SO I guess they were happy with warming themselves up in the cold weather..hahahaha.. XD

Regardless, I will run a check too..First charge will be 8 hours with phone switched off..Second charge I can guarantee the next afternoon..lol..with phone turned off..then the third charge after that with phone turned on..I'll update you guys.. smile.gif

QUOTE(oreomambo @ Jan 12 2010, 05:59 PM)
Google staff would have picked up the 3G connectivity issue, but that didn't happen...

I've seen another post somewhere reporting of a hot device problem. Someone left it charge overnight while running an application/music in the background. It went hot and not responsive in the morning.
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Heating up happens to my Hero too..but not responsive..now i'm shaking..lol..
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 12 2010, 06:16 PM)

Heating up happens to my Hero too..but not responsive..now i'm shaking..lol..
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Ah..here is the post.

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Goog...1415e8323&hl=en


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Thanks for the alert bro..Thats really scary!
My personal opinion, he was silly to let the phone run and charge (first time) overnight..I don't really charge with applications running, but I do charge with the phone on.. :S I will do more reading on this issue and see if its a malfunction of that phone only or really a bug..I gotta be careful with my Nexus One..I dont want to wait for one month just to get it fixed.. biggrin.gif

Its getting scary now..LOL!! 2 days more to go..I'm getting impatient already..I just wished Fedex would come knocking on my door anytime saying please sign here.. biggrin.gif

Should I use N95 or iPhone camera to record the vids? Suggestions guys?
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Pls take the best 1. No mood seeing an iphoney vid. LOL
About the heat , do effect any bad things to N1 based on that user comment? I think its just only, when u holding phone for hours in ur palm, it did to heat up becoz the heat comes from ur plam. And I don't see any of this bad thing inside any gadgets websites review.. do sumkind of iphone fan throwing bad thoughts about N1??? Maybe lol.
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Charging overnight shouldn't be a problem. Its fine for lithium-ion batteries from what I've gathered.

Sure, he left music playing all night too, but still. If its true, it kinda makes it sound like the N1 isn't very durable.

I myself have gadgets that heat up when being charged and occasionally have left it on over night while left it on and used. But they never have malfunctioned on me.

A bit of a worrying note when I've been really interested in getting a unit myself.

Meanwhile, anyone knows how long it takes to fully charge the N1? (not first charge)

@ ~tera~

Read the cases on the heat. One said it gets laptop hot, no device will get that hot just from the heat of your palm.

The 2nd case posted was cause someone left it charging overnight with he music app on.

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QUOTE(~tera~ @ Jan 12 2010, 06:47 PM)
Pls take the best 1. No mood seeing an iphoney vid. LOL
About the heat , do effect any bad things to N1 based on that user comment? I think its just only, when u holding phone for hours in ur palm, it did to heat up becoz the heat comes from ur plam. And I don't see any of this bad thing inside any gadgets websites review..  do sumkind of iphone fan throwing bad thoughts about N1???  Maybe lol.
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i wonder based on what source did you make your assumption. smile.gif
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Yeah..well, I will trust my own experience rather than the person's experience..For now, we just "read" it here and there..In future, we can test everything on my Nexus One..Two days guys..Thats all we need before we can start testing it out smile.gif Then we will not have to believe in other people's doubts..
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yea..that's true... can't really trust on every reviews as there are lots of fanboys around.
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 12 2010, 07:00 PM)
Yeah..well, I will trust my own experience rather than the person's experience..For now, we just "read" it here and there..In future, we can test everything on my Nexus One..Two days guys..Thats all we need before we can start testing it out smile.gif Then we will not have to believe in other people's doubts..
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Sounds like you are going to put your N1 through a test dummy run for us laugh.gif

Thanks anyway!

From that thread on overheating, and the number of people posting. It DOES get hot when charging. But in most gadget's cases, thats pretty normal. Just hopefully it won't be too hot.

Could you do a test and have the N1 running multiple processes and apps without the battery? If thats possible. Then at least we can know if the heat is largely from the battery or the processor itself?
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Nothing is perfect smile.gif... My V3xx, E52, ... were heat up during heavy net browsing, especially when I used it at place with low receptions. Low reception = h/p have to transmit (TX) at much higher output, Imagine, 100mA (normal) to 1A at full TX strength. In this case, your h/p can drains your 1500 mAh (E52) in about an hour!!..

BTW, software's bugs also can make system using full resources. Ever experiencing laggy when opening certain sites or apps or some period of time? Same goes to mobile phone's apps too.

So, the tip is, use only what you need smile.gif.



BTW,almsot all Li-ion batteries have safety electronic circuits built-in to prevent overcharge and optimize the charging....Even Nokia 3210 battery has the builtin circuit with termal sensor!. If the safety circuit faulty, your battery can be overcharged and can be hazard/dangerous too, because it can explode!!.

thank you.
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i dont think its possible to run it without the battery..its a "charger" and not an "adapter" but nevertheless, i will try it though smile.gif

Yeah..My Nexus One is the guinea pig here I guess..haha..I don't mind though..I'm curious myself too.. smile.gif Someone else can test the future phones maybe..unless we get some donations for a test phone..

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Owh I c, sry for not reading all of those heat up comment. But its do possible to heat up when str8 using ur smartphone for hours ,ur hand will sweat up and it will produce some heat to ur phone.
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About Google map navigation issue in previous page.
Currently I'm using digi rm5/day EDGE internet , the google maps works fine BUT google map navigation usage in Malaysia sumtimes sucks.
Coz its using old map for Malaysia satellite view and no street view for any places here( I just tested it at penang and kota bharu, other famous places like kl I dunno whether its avail or not.)
So u can only experience half of google map navigation feature here. So I hope google should rescan/update satellite view on Google map here and put sum street view for us as android user here.
Its really sucks when I the 1st time I use it just to see how street view works here..
The good thing is Google map navigation did lock current position faster than papago x5 and it works inside the building too. The gps precision when u are moving around with vehicle are just same with papago and also recalculating other route while navigate are also same.

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QUOTE(hengsin @ Jan 12 2010, 02:45 PM)
Google navigation is only available for US at the moment, no word yet when the service will be expanded to other part of the world. There is a hack version at XDA that can be used in Malaysia but the Malaysia Map data is not always up to date ( since it is not officially supported yet ) and there are some minor UI issues too.
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Yeah, this is exactly what I'm afraid off. I'm not exactly a google fanboy. And after reviewing some of the videos, N1 best compliment user who use google services extensively, like gmail (I'm using hotmail, yea, the java scripted page is horrible and buggy, but been using it for 10 yrs now, won't want to ditch it), gtalk (not a fan as none of my friend is using it), google earth (map not up to date, and google map cannot display traffic direction unless we zoom to detail map). These are the thing that use extensively.... I would need to switch everything to google (especially mail) and persuade my friends to use gtalk, if I want to maximize N1... haha.

About phone become warm, its normal under heavy usage and indoor when reception signal is low. However, battery that stay warm (or hot) for long period of time during charging is not good for the battery. It will reduce the battery capacity, and has chance of explosion. Normally battery get slightly warm when it approach full charge capacity. The fail-safe circuit detect peak voltage, and will start pulse charging intermittently (to maintain power usage). However if usage (I mean heavy usage) and charging occur at the same time, it may interfere the peak detection. Hence continuously charging the phone (battery).

Could be an overlook feature in N1? I don't know.
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QUOTE(bahathir @ Jan 12 2010, 07:07 PM)
Nothing is perfect smile.gif... My V3xx, E52, ... were heat up during heavy net browsing, especially when I used it at place with low receptions. Low reception = h/p have to transmit (TX) at much higher output, Imagine, 100mA  (normal) to 1A  at full TX strength. In this case, your h/p can drains your 1500 mAh (E52) in about an hour!!..

BTW, software's bugs also can make system using full resources. Ever experiencing laggy when opening certain sites  or apps or some period of time? Same goes to mobile phone's apps too.

So, the tip is, use only what you need smile.gif.
BTW,almsot all Li-ion batteries have safety electronic circuits built-in to prevent overcharge and optimize the charging....Even Nokia 3210 battery has the builtin circuit with termal sensor!. If the safety circuit faulty, your battery can be overcharged and can be hazard/dangerous too, because it can explode!!.

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Exactly..Not to forget, the background applications when we have multi-tasking available (ehem) smile.gif some dynamically written procs can terminate power hogging background applications but in most cases, they don't have this (especially on mobile phones)..

As far as Li-ion batteries are concerned, most of the gadgets I have used so far don't have the best circuit breakers yet though..If you have a laptop, you will definitely know that after sometime, the battery starts to lose its retention time..This is because of poor circuit breaking techniques applied to the digital gadgets..I have to say, Apple has a very good batter handling systems in their notebooks..Their batteries charge in "packets" and sometimes it will display 100%, sometimes it will display 99% and sometimes even 98%..The circuit breakers break the charging before the max capacity is reached and this saves the battery from damaging.

I like the way bahathir said the last line:

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If the safety circuit faulty, your battery can be overcharged and can be hazard/dangerous too, because it can explode!!.

thank you.


That was really cute..LOL! He scared you with explosion then suddenly said thank you..haha

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I don't think its true about the battery heat up on N1. I do thrust htc's hardware, and there still no bad comment about it till now that related to battery explode up in htc phones. So now I just stand with my thought not to belive it.
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Oh yeah..I just got a point to share with you guys..There is one thing I dont like about the GMaps on Hero but I wish to see in the Nexus One particularly Android 2.1.

When you add a route and are following it with GPS, when you go off the course, it does not recalculate the route for me..It expects me to be on the track again somehow..Some streets in Malaysia are changed and not updated in the maps..it can give me a real hard time in those times..I hope they will have the route recalculation in the Nexus One at least..


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QUOTE(~tera~ @ Jan 12 2010, 07:50 PM)
I don't think its true about the battery heat up on N1.  I do thrust htc's hardware, and there still no bad comment about it till now that related to battery explode up in htc phones. So now I just stand with my thought not to belive it.
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This will be proved in two more days tera..haha..We don't always have to trust outside sources..Seeing is believing..We have our own community now and we are going to have our guinea pig coming soon already..I decided to call my Nexus One "Guinea" already..lol..

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I think I should put up a list of bugs and problems the N1 is having D:

Looking over the N1's forums on google, theres a lot of people having problems with the touchscreen. Like hitting a spot on the middle of the screen but the phone registers it as bottom of the screen!

Users seems to have fixed it by turning it off and turning it on again, but that sounds troublesome. Some also reported that it messes up that way if you are touching the metal ring at the back of the phone.

Might wanna test that out too Shahz laugh.gif
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QUOTE(vermins @ Jan 12 2010, 07:55 PM)
I think I should put up a list of bugs and problems the N1 is having D:

Looking over the N1's forums on google, theres a lot of people having problems with the touchscreen.  Like hitting a spot on the middle of the screen but the phone registers it as bottom of the screen!

Users seems to have fixed it by turning it off and turning it on again, but that sounds troublesome.  Some also reported that it messes up that way if you are touching the metal ring at the back of the phone.

Might wanna test that out too Shahz laugh.gif
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That would be great..I'd appreciate if you could make a list of problems available and I will test it out in my testing post when the phone arrives..I can see that the post will be VERY long indeed..I will make a special section for LYN bugchallenge.. biggrin.gif I promise I will not be biased and whatever will be faulty will be written as it is..I want you guys to get an actual overview before you guys spend thousands of cash on this baby smile.gif

The screen is rather huge (even larger than iphone) and if even slight part of the skin is touching the screen (even the black borders), it will affect the touch..The hardware that is used for touch sensitivity is actually a PCB board with several metal nodes on it..It is logical that if they touch the camera ring at the back (considering its metal), the touch will be affected..But if this happens, than it really sucks..I might as well have a camera embedded inside the cover like the Hero if thats the case.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 12 2010, 07:52 PM)
Oh yeah..I just got a point to share with you guys..There is one thing I dont like about the GMaps on Hero but I wish to see in the Nexus One particularly Android 2.1.

When you add a route and are following it with GPS, when you go off the course, it does not recalculate the route for me..It expects me to be on the track again somehow..Some streets in Malaysia are changed and not updated in the maps..it can give me a real hard time in those times..I hope they will have the route recalculation in the Nexus One at least..


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This will be proved in two more days tera..haha..We don't always have to trust outside sources..Seeing is believing..We have our own community now and we are going to have our guinea pig coming soon already..I decided to call my Nexus One "Guinea" already..lol..
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Really? But when I'm using google map navigate it do recalculate the route for me when I go off decided route by navigate map. Maybe u go sumwhere that only 1 route can be calculated. What device u use when using google map? It works 100% fine with new cyanmod currently I'm using now.
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Thats is weird..I tried on lots of roads..It didnt calculate for me..Its on my HTC Hero..Amon Ra 1.5.2 with CMR3.1..
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Theres a thread on positive experiences on the N1. Kinda strange considering its a tech suppport forum on google. But nice to read anyway and hear the good stuff on the n1.

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Goog...4ed45&hl=en#all

Currently my only concern is the heating up during the charge. And how hot it gets.
Since the phone just about pretty much requires a daily charge. Thats a lotta times the phone will be in a hot state.

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vermins, you compiling a list for testing? I'll wait for it..Or shall someone else do it?
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for me just normal tests is fine. tongue.gif i mean just test based on a day or two usage
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Hmm, I guess I could quickly put up a quick one and add whatever people would like to see being tested.

But I think we prolly shouldn't go overboard on the testing. It is your phone after all, though its 'guinea' we shouldn't totally abuse it tongue.gif

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Okay, compile it all and send it to me tomorrow night..then we will be all set for the testing smile.gif

Dont worry about going overboard..If I can get more Android users with this Nexus One testing, then so be it smile.gif All this for Android~
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Heres what I've come up with so far. Feel free to let me know what you would like to have tested out. Or copy and paste the list and just add your own entry.

This is a list compiled to confirm on rumors over the Nexus One. This is NOT a review of any sort. And no phone is perfect. Plus there are conflicting reports on these rumors, so please do not draw conclusions.

• Will get hot from extensive use with charger on and battery removed (If possible)
• Touchscreen malfunction while touching metal ring at back of phone
• SatNav navigation in Malaysia (supposedly theres a work around)
• Trackball sensitivity
• VOIP calls quality (3G and wifi)
• Quality and sound volume of speakers on handsfree calls and music (apparently too much treble and very soft)
• Quality of Bluetooth connectivity
• 3G speed and quality (apparently likes to get out of 3G and switch to EDGE)

On an update, I've read that people getting calls from users of the N1 are impressed with the call quality. However users of the N1 aren't too impressed with the sound quality coming out of the N1, both from speakers and headsets. Apparently its too tinny and soft.

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QUOTE(vermins @ Jan 12 2010, 09:48 PM)
Heres what I've come up with so far.  Feel free to let me know what you would like to have tested out.  Or copy and paste the list and just add your own entry.

• Will get hot from extensive use with charger on and battery removed (If possible)
• Touchscreen malfunction while touching metal ring at back of phone
• SatNav navigation in Malaysia (supposedly theres a work around)
• Trackball sensitivity
• VOIP calls quality (3G and wifi)
• Quality and sound volume of speakers on handsfree calls and music (apparently too much treble and very soft)
• Quality of Bluetooth connectivity

On an update, I've read that people getting calls from users of the N1 are impressed with the call quality.  However users of the N1 aren't too impressed with the sound quality coming out of the N1, both from speakers and headsets.  Apparently its too tinny and soft.
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hmmm....seem like N1 doesn't have a good review then....
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QUOTE(lhooipg @ Jan 12 2010, 10:00 PM)
hmmm....seem like N1 doesn't have a good review then....
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Seriously..Some people dont even bother to read the forum..And this is why we have been getting all those blog and forum posts about the problems..Its people like these who just jump in without any reading and make a conclusion..He doesnt even know what is that list for..
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Seriously..Some people dont even bother to read the forum..And this is why we have been getting all those blog and forum posts about the problems..Its people like these who just jump in without any reading and make a conclusion..He doesnt even know what is that list for..
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Haha, yeah. Thats why I hardly post on forums now.

He even missed out on the thread I posted that had positive feedback.
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cant wait for your review man.... the minds already crazy with lots of thought of stop waiting and just grab one set.... lol... damm....... after looking at the N1 and Droids comparison vids..... my minds become even more crazier...

BTW, on Vermins list of testing to be carried out.... the last part soft and tiny... which part do you refer too..... is it the phone?????
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Made a quick edit, hopefully people won't get the wrong idea again.
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Seriously..Some people dont even bother to read the forum..And this is why we have been getting all those blog and forum posts about the problems..Its people like these who just jump in without any reading and make a conclusion..He doesnt even know what is that list for..
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QUOTE(vermins @ Jan 12 2010, 09:48 PM)
Heres what I've come up with so far.  Feel free to let me know what you would like to have tested out.  Or copy and paste the list and just add your own entry.

• Will get hot from extensive use with charger on and battery removed (If possible)
• Touchscreen malfunction while touching metal ring at back of phone
• SatNav navigation in Malaysia (supposedly theres a work around)
• Trackball sensitivity
• VOIP calls quality (3G and wifi)
• Quality and sound volume of speakers on handsfree calls and music (apparently too much treble and very soft)
• Quality of Bluetooth connectivity

On an update, I've read that people getting calls from users of the N1 are impressed with the call quality.  However users of the N1 aren't too impressed with the sound quality coming out of the N1, both from speakers and headsets.  Apparently its too tinny and soft.
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For SatNav, there is a hacked version that can be used at Malaysia: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...=navigation+usa

I guess it is a good idea too to test the 3g reliability and speed of nexus one as people are facing 3g connectivity issue on the T-Mobile network.
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cant wait for your review man.... the minds already crazy with lots of thought of stop waiting and just grab one set.... lol... damm....... after looking at the N1 and Droids comparison vids..... my minds become even more crazier...

BTW, on Vermins list of testing to be carried out.... the last part soft and tiny... which part do you refer too..... is it the phone?????
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Yeah its on the Nexus One itself.

Apparently when using the phone speakers in general or using the headset, the sound quality is supposedly not very good.

Here is the thread where people are reporting bout it, if you would like to read more.

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Goog...8b0bab935&hl=en


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For SatNav, there is a hacked version that can be used at Malaysia: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...=navigation+usa

I guess it is a good idea too to test the 3g reliability and speed of nexus one as people are facing 3g connectivity issue on the T-Mobile network.
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Ah! Thanks for the hacked version, but am still curious bout the phone's default capabilities. With Gmap updated to 3.3 of course, or whatever the latest is. But good to know theres a way around it.

Hmm, 3G reliability I'm guessing is the phone itself, since I'm getting reports from UK and SG too that 3G is ganked. So I was kinda thinking that all 3G related tests would be unreliable and inaccurate at that point. But I'll add it.

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hengsin..You tha man bro.. biggrin.gif Thanks for the link..Time to get cranking with some new stuff happy.gif

Chill guys..I tell you what, I know this phone is goin to be awesome anyway..Start saving up now..Once I have a review for you guys, you can make up your mind wink.gif
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Mmm.. it seem to many problems with N1 smile.gif.. but Cinta itu buta. Love is Blind... I don't care... I want the N1... smile.gif he hehheheh e


For me, N1 is just a phone, and I'll threat it as a phone. smile.gif Other features look nice.. but, I am happy if I can get supervisor (root), superuser access to the phone..... It is my ultimate goal about the N1.


Yes,, everyone has their own preferences... but, wait and see. smile.gif


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bahathir, problems are stated by people..things can't be perfect thats for sure..but we will see what we feel on our own rather than what people say..thats why we're compiling that list..

also, the root access was already available before the phone was even launched officially if you didn't knew it wink.gif
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Yeah, I think I'll still get a N1 too. Just wished it was more available to get @_@
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He heh eh .. yup.. I already read about the fastboot things smile.gif...


p/s: Why I like root?
My nickname in other Malaysian IT/Open Source Community is root. smile.gif
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vermins, at least it will be a rare sight..a wow factor compared to iPhone which is owned by every other guy.. biggrin.gif

bahathir, lol..that can't be the only reason right? haha
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Heh eh he he ... yup.. .IMHO , super user access mean I have TOTAL CONTROL of my OWN devices. Hey, I bought the N1, and it's mine... it is up to me how I want t use it... that's why superuser access is important, especially when dealling Unix OS environment. So getting super user access is a total satisfactions to me...

Anyway, N1 has a International warranty... I am not worry much....

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Well, I don't really care what others have or what I have. I didn't buy a phone for others to use laugh.gif

But its a bit too rare atm, since the shipping only goes to 4 countries.

Oh, anyone know if the standard US adaptor for it works on our voltages? I've got some US gadgets that works in KL. And google offers an adaptor suited to your country (though you gotta pay more). But doesn't hurt to check first tongue.gif
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Well..it goes to Singapore..So I believe it should be fine..
Besides, it charges with USB as well..No issues smile.gif
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Careful... not all charger have AUTO-Voltage (110-240V). See the labeling before connecting to wall socket... BTW, you cannot put US 2 pins plugs to Malaysia's 3 pin socket.

N1 is HTC product, so you can look for HTC's microUSB charger ... or other generic microUSB charger...

Anyway, you always can charge via PC/Laptop's USB port.


From the google phone forums, some said that by picking up the N1, the signal strength bars drop by 1 bar...So, in my very limited knowledges... IMHO, it's mean that the N1 has poor antenna design or the radio receiver (Rx) is not sensitive. This can be fixed by adjusting GAIN control ... but.. I really hope the problems are not related to HW.

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Exactly..I mean..I bought the Zune and it was fine coz it only uses USB..

There is a charger and a USB cable..I guess I'll just buy a new adapter for it from HTC if its 110 smile.gif

http://news.cnet.com/2300-17938_3-10002098-2.html
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Hey shahz, just read more and found out that the trackball only lights up white when theres a notification on your phone (ie you got a messsage).

Though its been said that the LED light on the trackball is actually capable of RGB and that you could change some value on the text file to get it to light up different colors. Think its possible to try it out?

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Goog...845dff4e4&hl=en

Would be nice if there is a better form of notification then just white tongue.gif
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Actually it does have tricolors as far as I read about Nexus One..Another to-do list wink.gif
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Aiya .. RTFM la... smile.gif Read the Fine Manual....

Goto page 22 for the answer.
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bahathir, i read the comment here http://discuss.gdgt.com/htc/google/nexus-o...national-users/

it says the charger is universal. Anyone have more information on the charger voltage?
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Anyhow, always check the input power rating before plug into power outlet socket. Safety First.

If the charger is auto-voltage, so, just get the plug converter.... smile.gif

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coming to think about it..

the charger rating could have something to do with the battery heating problem..

since his phone blacked out the next day too.. smile.gif
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i have just place my order now yesssssssssssssssssssssss


yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss i am so happy



as currently i am in HK and i place the order then i use my fren address in HK to receive the phone



I dun care how people rate it

whether it is worse then NOKIA OR SONY ERRICSSON OR IPHONE


IT IS A GOOGLE PHONE

I BELIVE IN GOOGLE AND I BELIVE I WILL BE VERY VERY HAPPY WITH IT

U CANNOT PUT MANCHESTER UNITED AND BURNLEY ON SAME LEVEL

U CANNOT PUT ROGER FEDERER AND JUAN DEL POTO ON SAME LEVEL

AS LONG AS IT IS A "can use" phONE THEN IT IS WORTH TO GO N TRY

I WILL MAKE A REVIEW WHEN I RECEIVE IT AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW THE DIFFRENCE

I HAVE BEEN W NOKIA SONY ERRISON AND POD TOUCH FOR DECADE
WHY NOT TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT

GOOGLE NEXUS THE ULTIMATE CHOICE FOR FUTURE


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shahz...
i m waiting ur review and testing edi...
please sleep early today....charge ur body until maximum and test optimize on your N1.

Please open a N1 topic to share your experince, all the technical stuff.

I believe, once ur review is out.
thousand of malaysian will start seek N1 edi....

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Hope shahz unit doesn't get stuck at custom ..... wink.gif

...or worse, missing (msian common worry)
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Bryant, I can only congratulate you for the wonderful decision you have made! welcome to the N1 family too! That was the only base i used to make up my mind when ordering my nexus one too smile.gif i will be reviewing the nexus one when it reaches me tomorrow. and i will be very hard on it. I will give as many negative points possible too. But after that, it will be my favorite phone again. Because the review is for people. I (and you) have already made the decision and we know we want it regardless of what others say. Once again, welcome bro!

Dorin, that is so sweet of you! I promise i will get myself all prepared for the testing smile.gif

Oreo, trust mei will take it out even its stuck there smile.gif if i dont get my unit tomorrow, i will be making calls and make sure it reaches me smile.gif
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shahz : Your N1's ETA?...
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As stated in Fedex, its 6:00pm tomorrow..But it can be earlier of course..Its the date that matters biggrin.gif
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Cool... Please, share your APN configuration with us smile.gif.

I have Celcom-3G data + voice plan. I can try my current celcom3g APN setting as soon I got mine. smile.gif


Major newspaper also focusing in the recent 'problem'

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/13/technolo...s/13google.html


My conspiracy theory : Google's plan to get 'FREE' advertisements or publicity around the world. smile.gif
1) 'Planned leaking' the N1 several weeks before the official announcement
Here, many tech publishers started reporting about the arrival of the N1.

2) Google ask the T-Mobile to 'cripple' the network temporarily. Actually, T-Mobile is in upgrage process for faster 3.5G infra.

3) Now, everyone start talking about the N1. smile.gif including the presses. smile.gif

4) Google/HTC/T-Mobile publish the patch/fix ... and everybody is happy. Major news publishers spread out the 'good' news.

5) Google got better reputation because, they can solve the difficult 'problem' .

6) More people buying N1. or N2 .... N3 ....


I hope all of these are NOT parts of the Google plans/missions for FREE publicities smile.gif


Thank you.

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shahz...why don't you ask Fedex hold your N1 at the store and you collect yourself...im sure that would faster....and faster review too....

You will be the 1st Malaysian to get it? hehee...

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If you ask me, honestly, this is called "dirty trickplaying" smile.gif

First, there is big a iMonster out there that they have to take down. Many people are so crazed with the iMonster that in order to get the fever off, they have to create "anticipation" - which can only be created from word of mouth.

Second, the price is $529 USD which is considerably cheap for an "unlocked" phone. If google goes around advertising more, the cost will rise too (logically)..which will not allow it to rival once again..Why is MacOS cheaper than Windows although its better? Why is GNU/Linux even Free and still the best among the three OS'? Its the same theory. Word only spreads through people.

Just look at us..Just to find answers, we look around at what other people say without judging much whether its reliable or not..But once we experience it ourselves, we start to think "Oh, its not that bad after all"..We must know that even those guys who are giving answers are end-users and tried to seek answers themselves but to no avail - out of which they produce their own answers..

Like I said, its dirty playing..So what? Life is not fair..Everyone knows that smile.gif Predators and Prey have existed forever smile.gif


Added on January 13, 2010, 3:36 pmbonanno..The sending fees is included..Besides, I live in Port Dickson, I'm not sure where is it coming from smile.gif I believe the nearest branch is in Seremban..I dont mind collecting it of course..I'll try calling them..

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QUOTE(bonanno @ Jan 13 2010, 03:29 PM)
shahz...why don't you ask Fedex hold your N1 at the store and you collect yourself...im sure that would faster....and faster review too....

You will be the 1st Malaysian to get it? hehee...
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Lol..I think there might be Malaysians who got it from Singapore already..But if it was ordered online and shipped to Malaysia, I can say I am among the first ones..

Also, good news Androiders! Nexus One has landed in Malaysia! Its undergoing custom clearance and its a darn tough process..I have to declare the AP permit for telecommunications (which means I have to pay 10% or some sort again for the clearance)..I will try my best to get the set today..I may drive down to KLIA smile.gif


Added on January 13, 2010, 3:58 pmhihihehe, everytime you post on this thread..I just cant stop looking at your avatar..haha..its really amusing!!

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hihihehe: Your avatar seem to be NOT appropriate in our Malaysian culture. If you can, please change it... There are many better pictures/graphics which you can use ... OK? my friend.


shahz : Ok, drive carefully, and please documented all the happenings.. smile.gif


Thank you...

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Sad news guys..They said they cant clear it today since its after 4pm already..There is a RM195 charge for SIRIM clearance, and RM200 for service charge..Apart from that, when picking up, there will be another 10% charge for fedex clearance..i am looking at another RM450 here smile.gif

Too bad they cant deliver it today otherwise I would've picked it up myself..Guess I have to wait.. sad.gif


Added on January 13, 2010, 4:54 pmupdates...finally set all the calculations..
10% of total price (cukai fedex) = RM185
SIRIM declaration = RM180
Service charge = RM150

which sums up to RM560 in total cost..If you guys need SIRIM clearance for orders, let me know and I will recommend you the person who can handle everything..This is the cheapest offer among all the agents and he has the strongest profile..

This mean, my Nexus One is costing me =
$530 x RM3.4 = RM1802 (Phone itself)
$20 x RM3.4 = RM68
$130 x RM3.4 = RM442 (shipping to Malaysia)
RM450 = SIRIM clearance and other custom charges

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RM 2762.00
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Im not worried about the money..I'm worried about the guys saying it can only be collected on Friday unless the agent pushes things tomorrow (for which I still have to drive down to KLIA tomorrow)..The agent does not promise for tomorrow but he assures that the phone can be collected on Friday..

The saddest part is, they might open up the box to check the contents! WTF! That sucks! I want to open up my baby by myself! I'm no drug dealer of any sort..!

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Shahz...as a google maniac... 450 is nothing... smile.gif

Just imagine when you 1st time hold the N1... worth? hehee

how much you let go your hero? hehe... i only want d class 6 sandisk can? smile.gif


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QUOTE(bahathir @ Jan 13 2010, 04:14 PM)
hihihehe: Your avatar seem to be NOT appropriate in our Malaysian culture. If  you can, please change it... There are many better pictures/graphics which you can use ...  OK? my friend.
shahz : Ok, drive carefully, and please documented all the happenings.. smile.gif
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bonanno..i just dont want them to open up the box! :'( I want to open it myself..Its coming from Google and I dont think they will ship cocaine with the phone..WTH! I hate customs if they have to open the box before me!!

I actually didnt sell my Hero to be honest..I was going to let it go for RM1750 to a guy who was not techie..Then I decided not to..I gave it to my wife instead..Since she will be with me, the Hero will always be around (which means my support on Hero will not drop)..The class 6 SD is in use by the Hero still tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 13 2010, 03:42 PM)
if thr is malaysian staying at US get it 1st then will it count too?lol
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You were right...so many malaysian over there...

I still have US visa...if N2 launch... you all pay my airfare and i will collect for you all... hehee..good idea?
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lol..my dad is in europe currently..he works there..if we ask him to bring it back..there will be no ticket charges at all..only time waiting factor..huahuhua
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Based on my limited knowledge, 'they' or the SIRIM open the box, so that they can stick the SIRIM approval sticker on your N1. So, hope everything goes well.

So, in this case, SIRIM or Kastam is the FIRST Malaysian in Malaysia who touch the N1. smile.gif
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 13 2010, 04:58 PM)
bonanno..i just dont want them to open up the box! :'( I want to open it myself..Its coming from Google and I dont think they will ship cocaine with the phone..WTH! I hate customs if they have to open the box before me!!

I actually didnt sell my Hero to be honest..I was going to let it go for RM1750 to a guy who was not techie..Then I decided not to..I gave it to my wife instead..Since she will be with me, the Hero will always be around (which means my support on Hero will not drop)..The class 6 SD is in use by the Hero still tongue.gif
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Shahz...collect its on KLIA custom tomorrow....

Ya..i lov my hero so much...and the chin... smile.gif

IMHO, not techie will never like ANDROID...WinMo is good for them...same as Linux & Unix usr will never like Microsoft...

anyway...is that Chrome available in android mobile?

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Bahathir..dont spill kerosene in fire..I'm already pissed with the customs sad.gif

No..Chrome is for Netbooks only..
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MYR 150 for service charge? For what service? Is it for filling up the SIRIM form and submit it yo sirim? ..Haiya... You also can do it la .. shahz... smile.gif Go collect it and do the SIRIM approval by yourself. But why Fedex need 10% extra charges, even they NOT send the package to your house ?

Relax my friend... That is their job. Anyway, good luck. I hope everthing goes smoothly.

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Yeah..but i will have to drive down to Shah Alam for filling up the form and submitting it..SIRIM takes a few days to process that form..This guy will do it immediately..The 10% is "cukai" for them..I just want to get the phone..
UNBOXED!!

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Few days for sirim permit? Nope.. it is 24 hours.... according to my friend who is getting in wireless AP by himself, and for the first time smile.gif . So, even the runner have can do it faster, it is still 24 hours window period. Better ask SIRIM for clarification.

p/s : My friiend just did the SIRIM procedure yesterday, and today he got email that he can collect it today... See.. 24 hours.

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24 hours..that will be the next day..this guy does it on the same day itself..only depends whether he will go down to KLIA tomorrow or not..if he does, i get it tomorrow..otherwise, i get it on Friday morning sad.gif

At least it will save a trip to Shah Alam from PD for me..
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Ok, no worry la... everything will be OK. Yeah, I know it is quite frustrated, if you cannot unbox it by yourself. smile.gif, but, look at the bright side... the N1 is already YOURS!!!! and already in MALAYSIA!!!. So... cheers up. smile.gif
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yeah..thats how im consoling myself..lol..i was supposed to be picturing the unboxing for you guys..guess that will be out of the list now..or might as well a "fake" unboxing..hahaha
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Sad....

Really hate the custom!!!!


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a fake unboxing is more than enough shahz.
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BS the custom!!!!

by reading posts here.... i already felt the frust!!!!!!
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cant wait for the nexus.. sad a bit... my current phone is dead and need replacement... now already got hero on hand since need a phone urgently... i think will use this for a while until nexus is available here.....

but nonetheless still looking forward for shahz review....
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smile.gif ... Thank you.for your efforts. smile.gif Yeah, unboxing is cool, but, the main attraction is th N1 itself. smile.gif We unboxed the device only once, but, we use will use the device for many-many times. So why we must concentrate on a 'minor' events. smile.gif Agree ? smile.gif Sure you can stage the unboxing, and remember to close up the SIRIM sticker smile.gif. he heh ehe ..

BTW, don't hate Kastem... They only do their jobs.

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shahz...your N1 stuck at KLIA post Kastam? FYI, i work in KLIA....and i just ask the duty free kastam staffs...(next to my office) ..all sirim only issue in Shah Alam..in order to do that..Kastam will provide you a letter..so..better you ready all needed documents before you move...dont waste your time..

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Ok guys..I've decided! I'm goin to Sirim myself tomorrow! Anyone has contacts or anything that can be helpful? Early morning I'm goin to pay a trip to Shah Alam and Sirim myself..With very high hopes I can get it all done by tomorrow..If there are any internal contacts that can help speed up the process, that would be really appreciated..

I also hope it can be done within the same day..THen I will rush down to the airport and claim our Nexus One..If they at least unbox before my eyes, I would still be happy..So guys, get as much info as we can before 6am tomorrow..I'm visiting Sirim myself and claim the phone!
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omg..shahz...seem everybody waiting your N1...hahahaa...you the only hope in LYN...
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bonanno, Awesome! That is very helpful! Is there any way I can get that letter to my email or something? This way I can print it here and be prepared when I reach Sirim..
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03-87871122 ...ext 307

KLIA Kastam

You may contact this number or Fedex to inquiry the procedure...

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wah so troublesome, y dun u buy from sg, it is alot easier, jus that need to pay 7% GST.

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bonanno..it jsut say "terima kasih kerana menghubungi bla bla bla" then disconnects @_@

Actually, my brother is working in KLIA too..He's the aircraft technician..I'll see if he can help too..


Added on January 13, 2010, 6:10 pmdennis..when i get the phone in my hands, all this effort will be worth it..haha..

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Added on January 13, 2010, 6:12 pm
QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 13 2010, 06:09 PM)
bonanno..it jsut say "terima kasih kerana menghubungi bla bla bla" then disconnects @_@

Actually, my brother is working in KLIA too..He's the aircraft technician..I'll see if he can help too..


Added on January 13, 2010, 6:10 pmdennis..when i get the phone in my hands, all this effort will be worth it..haha..
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omg... sad to hear it's held up by customs shahz. i guess sirim can't wait to get their stickers on the phone. smile.gif
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aiyo....shahz N1 kena deflowered by someone else instead of him ...*sigh*

...somemore stuck a "i was there" sirim sticker on the butt.

cheer up dude. Late a day or two will not change the fact that you'll be still getting N1 phone.

As suspected, our custom is really a pain (and blood sucker)
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hehe, actually alot of singaporean got their n1 already, i still havent ordered mine, CNY near need to spend a lot $$$, dono got extra cash for this o not T_T
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QUOTE(dennis5585 @ Jan 13 2010, 06:13 PM)
hehe, actually alot of singaporean got their n1 already, i still havent ordered mine, CNY near need to spend a lot $$$, dono got extra cash for this o not T_T
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sry. off topic...Lenovo launch their Android-based phone - Lenovo Lephone....quite ugly for me...but i love the Keyboard...cant detached...

and another -- Inbrics M1 --- not bad...


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Thanks for your support guys..It makes me get the phone sooner for you guys..I feel like this phone is coming for everyone in LYN and not just me..My brother is going to work already..He says he will check the fedex department and see what they have to say..if there are any documents, he will bring them home..otherwise, i'll stop at KLIA tomorrow morning and then go to shah alam..whew..tough day ahead..i never thought i will ever go to this extent for a phone..

Yeah, I saw the Lephone yesterday..Looks like a makeup kit of some sort..why is it even android sad.gif Haven't seen the Inbrics M1 though..will check it out in a while..Time to Google again..lol
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shahz mind to share how much in total u spend for this phone ?
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No worry shahz...everything will goin fine tomorrow...if have time..drop by KLIA and lunch with me..so i can have 1st look the N1...hehehe

Shahz..... susah get it..the more you love your N1 later...


some carrier just wanna earn money and spoil the lovely android..simply launch android product without proper test....what to do...android is a very potential platform and its free....open source..

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dennis..i posted earlier already..with separate costs defining each of them smile.gif Check it out..

bonanno, you're right..harder to get things are much appreciated (even girls..lol..)..

I will be around in KLIA tomorrow..not sure when though..but yeah, anyone wants to have a first look at it before the review, can meet me there..haha..since it would be open already anyway..
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So much drama for a phone. Oh my...
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Dude..u got a problem? if you dont like it, you don't have to reply here..
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Wah shahz, all respect to you man. Wish I could be there too, to hold the camera for you while unboxing. Waiting for your review... biggrin.gif
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Hahaha, wow. Everyone so enthusiastic!

Should pop fireworks at the unboxing at customs or SIRIM!


And get arrested laugh.gif

On a side note, I think I'm quite confirmed on getting one too. Just a matter of HOW now =\ Thinking of asking my sister to bring it back for me from the UK, but I'm worried bout the VAT.
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In US right now......seeing in Google support forum about delays in shipping, now I'm having second thoughts about this. Should I place an order or should I not.....haizzzzz....scared the shipment cannot make it.......by the time phone arrive I leave my hotel liao.......now at google checkout page........so tempting.......hehehehe

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I'm planning to do something equivalent... gonna order and ask my fren in HK to hold on the phone for me as I will be going over soon... can avoid the tax and also additional courier fees right?

Shahz... jst want to clarify... the international warranty on the phone... does i mean we can visit the local HTC for repairs??
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ordered mine yesterday..
waiting for google to confirm and the delivery to sg..
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post Jan 13 2010, 11:10 PM

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post Jan 13 2010, 11:22 PM

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Hope everything will be ok Shah.. My batch is arriving tomorrow... hope won't get sangkut.. it's kinda depends on luck with kastam really...
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post Jan 13 2010, 11:30 PM

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Deznom, trust me, everyone who has bought the Nexus One does not care about the warranty..If the warranty was a concern, they wouldn't bother to buy..This is "passion" here smile.gif

ccm, u tha man bro! Welcome to Android world!!!

irwan, where is yours coming from? Singapore? or US? If its from US, good luck with the customs too biggrin.gif From your posts, I can see its coming with Fedex..hehe..you will have to go through all the processes too..Be prepared for the cost biggrin.gif
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post Jan 13 2010, 11:32 PM

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Luck? smile.gif Nope, it is more toward how good you can 'hide' from kastam. Everything which are coming into Malaysia already being key-in before it being leaved from US. smile.gif This NOT mean you are cheating. but, it is more toward how good 'playing words' during the declaration.

Thank you
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post Jan 13 2010, 11:43 PM

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yeap... i have done my best in the description. Hope everything will be all good news tomorrow. I'll pm you the tracking no for your unit bahathir.
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post Jan 13 2010, 11:44 PM

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Yeah..I told my friend to declare it as "gift"..I dont know what happened and what was declared..but when i gave them the tracking code, they just knew it was a mobile phone sad.gif I dont even see a point for SIRIM declaration..By right, for everything that's Sirim certified, it must be tested by them first..this won't be tested by them..Paying for nothing..

Also, the first question the SIRIM agents asked me was "how many phones"..I am guessing for bulk order there might be some jinx..

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