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pm.stackers
post Jul 11 2011, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(GoldChan @ Jul 11 2011, 01:44 PM)
all these are just lucky-lah. Never try never know I already told U all b4.
a) What U believe?
b) Experiment what you believe?
c) If success, continue with what U believe
d) If failed, change your belief.

For me, I go by the book.

one note: whatever u do just don't be too greed lah.
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i agree with the first 3 points, but not the last one..
my version
d) if it fails, change ur portfolio tongue.gif
silverfreak
post Jul 11 2011, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 11 2011, 02:16 PM)
Ya maybe luck

What i try to show the bloke is that theres not any more risk in buyin form Gainsville...

at worst you get it at same price albeit 14 days later.......is 15% discount worth it?

Thats a question for the buyer to answer.............
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Prophetjul, you must be damn lucky.

For me if it's not much difference, I would not want to take the hassle for all this tax stuff. I bought a couple of site from australia and also US in year 2009 until 2011, one of it is from www.kitcosilver.com and 99% of the time caught for the tax. Not to forget you need to do the bank wire which also incur extra charges. smile.gif

Silver investment in Malaysia is really tough unless you buy bars which is free from tax.


Added on July 11, 2011, 3:49 pm
QUOTE(pm.stackers @ Jul 11 2011, 03:46 PM)
i agree with the first 3 points, but not the last one..
my version
d) if it fails, change ur portfolio tongue.gif
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kekeke ... good one !

This post has been edited by silverfreak: Jul 11 2011, 03:49 PM
lustman
post Jul 11 2011, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 11 2011, 12:27 PM)
i have bought gold from them, not silver.

i have bot silver but never been taxed.

i received my coins after a week. Yes if you buy from Gainsville, i has to be in bulk.
Even if you are taxed, it is similar to that site for silver eagles. Cheaper still for philharmonics.

Eagles: Rm2385 + shipping 240 + tax394 = Rm3,019
So its not much more expensive as you have indicated......  brows.gif

So the risk is you get them 15% cheaper!
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i managed to get the eagles at $2900 from malaysia without going through all the "hassle" and worrying and enjoyed a cup of teh tarik during the transaction.

i'd say it all depends on one's priority and comfort zone
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post Jul 12 2011, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(silverfreak @ Jul 11 2011, 03:49 PM)
Prophetjul, you must be damn lucky.

For me if it's not much difference, I would not want to take the hassle for all this tax stuff. I bought a couple of site from australia and also US in year 2009 until 2011, one of it is from www.kitcosilver.com and 99% of the time caught for the tax. Not to forget you need to do the bank wire which also incur extra charges. smile.gif

Silver investment in Malaysia is really tough unless you buy bars which is free from tax.

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When i buy silver from overseas, its more for the numis value, ie a collection rather than pure bullions.
Maybe thats why they dont attract tax duties.
i dont 'invest' in silver bullions. i believe when the cr*p starts to happen in the financial world,
silver will be viewed as a commodity whereas gold will be a safe haven Currency.

i do however, invest in papaer silver for trading purposes....

Plus the fact, gold shines brighter than silver! biggrin.gif


Added on July 12, 2011, 7:26 am
QUOTE(lustman @ Jul 11 2011, 05:35 PM)
i managed to get the eagles at $2900 from malaysia without going through all the "hassle" and worrying and enjoyed a cup of teh tarik during the transaction.

i'd say it all depends on one's priority and comfort zone
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If you can get it cheaper in Malaysia, then do that by all means.
Care to share where you got that?

This post has been edited by prophetjul: Jul 12 2011, 07:26 AM
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post Jul 12 2011, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 12 2011, 07:24 AM)
When i buy silver from overseas, its more for the numis value, ie a collection rather than pure bullions.
Maybe thats why they dont attract tax duties.
i dont 'invest' in silver bullions. i believe when the cr*p starts to happen in the financial world,
silver will be viewed as a commodity whereas gold will be a safe haven Currency.

i do however, invest in papaer silver for trading purposes....

Plus the fact, gold shines brighter than silver!  biggrin.gif


Added on July 12, 2011, 7:26 am

If you can get it cheaper in Malaysia, then do that by all means.
Care to share where you got that?
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Hey guys, just put my first order in with www.scottsdalesilver.com for 5 (5oz) prey bars and 5 (10oz) stackers.

The stacking is beginning.... I will post pictures as soon as I get them, can't wait!

Fang
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post Jul 12 2011, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(fanglimss @ Jul 12 2011, 08:50 AM)
Hey guys, just put my first order in with www.scottsdalesilver.com for 5 (5oz) prey bars and 5 (10oz) stackers.

The stacking is beginning.... I will post pictures as soon as I get them, can't wait!

Fang
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i managed to get 10 pieces of scottsdale 1oz for $1400 here locally. I've check the scottsdale website today at US$392.99 excluding shipping. Looks like not much difference but I get it on the same day (COD),. Yes, it's still up to individual liking of getting the silver.

BTW what's the postage?


Added on July 12, 2011, 9:57 am
QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 12 2011, 07:24 AM)
When i buy silver from overseas, its more for the numis value, ie a collection rather than pure bullions.
Maybe thats why they dont attract tax duties.
i dont 'invest' in silver bullions. i believe when the cr*p starts to happen in the financial world,
silver will be viewed as a commodity whereas gold will be a safe haven Currency.

i do however, invest in papaer silver for trading purposes....

Plus the fact, gold shines brighter than silver!  biggrin.gif


Added on July 12, 2011, 7:26 am

If you can get it cheaper in Malaysia, then do that by all means.
Care to share where you got that?
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i bought them when the spot was below $34. now i may not get that price unless the spot comes down again.

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post Jul 12 2011, 10:24 AM

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for me I think silver is more valuable. Let see few years down the road, who is right.
it's just too much industrial usage. Unless, all the industry just stop.

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 12 2011, 07:24 AM)
When i buy silver from overseas, its more for the numis value, ie a collection rather than pure bullions.
Maybe thats why they dont attract tax duties.
i dont 'invest' in silver bullions. i believe when the cr*p starts to happen in the financial world,
silver will be viewed as a commodity whereas gold will be a safe haven Currency.

i do however, invest in papaer silver for trading purposes....

Plus the fact, gold shines brighter than silver!  biggrin.gif


Added on July 12, 2011, 7:26 am

If you can get it cheaper in Malaysia, then do that by all means.
Care to share where you got that?
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post Jul 12 2011, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(lustman @ Jul 12 2011, 09:55 AM)
i managed to get 10 pieces of scottsdale 1oz for $1400 here locally. I've check the scottsdale website today at US$392.99 excluding shipping. Looks like not much difference but I get it on the same day (COD),. Yes, it's still up to individual liking of getting the silver.

BTW what's the postage?


Added on July 12, 2011, 9:57 am

i bought them when the spot was below $34. now i may not get that price unless the spot comes down again.
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Ah......i am refering to the present price ler......... biggrin.gif


Added on July 12, 2011, 11:15 am
QUOTE(GoldChan @ Jul 12 2011, 10:24 AM)
for me I think silver is more valuable.  Let see few years down the road, who is right.
it's just too much industrial usage. Unless, all the industry just stop.
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i wrote this

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i believe when the cr*p starts to happen in the financial world,
silver will be viewed as a commodity whereas gold will be a safe haven Currency.



Depends what you mean by "value".

As a currency or commodity..........

i am refering to a currency value.

This post has been edited by prophetjul: Jul 12 2011, 11:15 AM
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post Jul 12 2011, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(Aurumanati @ Jul 11 2011, 01:19 PM)
May i know the Tarrif code you use to declare your silver. As i maybe buying direct from perth mint and do not want my silver getting stuck at customs.

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I need to check the AWB for the code used by Fedex, when I get back home.

The description was commemorative coins if I recall.
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post Jul 12 2011, 12:15 PM

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1980 gold/silver ratio = 16
Last year gold/silver ratio ~ 65
This year gold/silver ratio ~ 44
Next year gold/silver ratio ~ ?

Silver is outpacing gold throughout this bull market.
I'm buying physical silver now and changing it to gold down the road.
I'm looking at it as buying 'cheap gold'

IMHO
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post Jul 12 2011, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(ikram.adi @ Jul 12 2011, 12:15 PM)
1980 gold/silver ratio = 16
Last year gold/silver ratio ~ 65
This year gold/silver ratio ~ 44
Next year gold/silver ratio ~ ?

Silver is outpacing gold throughout this bull market.
I'm buying physical silver now and changing it to gold down the road.
I'm looking at it as buying 'cheap gold'

IMHO
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I suppose the ratio will stay within 36 - 40 next year smile.gif

My way is cost averaging every month. I do not buy lots of tube at one go... i accumulate slowly as I believe silver is long term investment smile.gif

Yesterday and today has dropped a lot. Probably is a good time to shop again!
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post Jul 12 2011, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(beginner2011 @ Jul 12 2011, 07:30 PM)
I suppose the ratio will stay within 36 - 40 next year smile.gif

My way is cost averaging every month. I do not buy lots of tube at one go... i accumulate slowly as I believe silver is long term investment smile.gif

Yesterday and today has dropped a lot. Probably is a good time to shop again!
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true. potential will go up to USD36-40 soon!
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post Jul 12 2011, 09:36 PM

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hey there, i have 6 pieces of 1oz Sunshine Silver Bar to let go.

want sell for RM139 per piece. PM me if u want to buy smile.gif

tq
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post Jul 13 2011, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Aurumanati @ Jul 11 2011, 01:19 PM)
May i know the Tarrif code you use to declare your silver. As i maybe buying direct from perth mint and do not want my silver getting stuck at customs.

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The exact code used is 8306.29.990 Import Rate 5% and Sales Tax 10%

If you want I can post a picture of the AWB

Please don't false declare because there will be hefty fines, if customs "lepaskan" you're OK otherwise just pay the money nod.gif
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post Jul 13 2011, 03:20 PM

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Normally the supplier or wholesaler will have the codes. I don't think you're able to request them to use another code.

Silver seems like back to uptrend today. Gold price is going to pull it up for sure.

I'm waiting for it to go USD100/oz in 5 years time cool2.gif Pray hard ... lol

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post Jul 13 2011, 06:47 PM

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The codes are online http://tariff.customs.gov.my/ you can tell the shipper what to declare.

Sometimes shippers use the wrong code and you get taxed unnecessarily tongue.gif
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post Jul 13 2011, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Jul 13 2011, 06:47 PM)
The codes are online http://tariff.customs.gov.my/ you can tell the shipper what to declare.

Sometimes shippers use the wrong code and you get taxed unnecessarily tongue.gif
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agree with you. Some shippers just simply filled in sad.gif

Silver price is shooting up again ... hopefully this time can go stable !!
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post Jul 13 2011, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(silverfreak @ Jul 13 2011, 08:53 PM)
agree with you. Some shippers just simply filled in sad.gif

Silver price is shooting up again ... hopefully this time can go stable !!
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just watch out for rapid price movement from now on.
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post Jul 14 2011, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(GoldChan @ Jul 13 2011, 10:37 PM)
just watch out for rapid price movement from now on.
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Hitting USD 50/oz this time ?? cool2.gif

I think doing monthly averaging is still the safest way looking at the price volatility smile.gif
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post Jul 14 2011, 02:28 AM

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Hi everyone,
you may wonder where can you buy silver in malaysia. Now, it's available here. I hope you can enjoy investing in silver and find the right dealer in malaysia.!

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