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 1120 Park Avenue - PJ South, any comments?

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post Jan 6 2010, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(estherlo @ Jan 6 2010, 04:13 PM)
I don't think Peter is so rich that can wait till completion then only claim for the money. Bear in mind that Peter is just a small developer. 

It is a norm that developer bear interest during under con to attract more customers. In my opinion, it is unlikely that 1st disbursement is equal to full disbursement.
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Agree, the most is late by 6 months to 1 year only.


Added on January 6, 2010, 4:34 pm
QUOTE(iceanise @ Jan 6 2010, 03:54 PM)
so, kawan-kawan, please take note of this lor....sc bonding period is 5 years from signing of letter of offer but the drawback is it's monthly rest.

whereas, for other, they quoted 1st disbursement, bonding is also 5 years - just that we dunno whether 1st disbursement is equal to full disbursement.

if it equate, might as well take pbb which offer blr - 1.9? betul tak? me also still comparing between uob and pbb.
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SC blr minus how many %? I heard is -1.8 only.

PBB is the best for own stay buyers. Thus, you can save a lot of interest on the flexi plan.

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post Jan 7 2010, 11:46 AM

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Now only I know why services also important. PBB call after 2 weeks to verify some information and queue now to process. WTH???? I have 1 refinance property and another just sold on dec09. They should ask me in the first week. The CO is Jason. Very bad service from PBB.

SC no news at all from the SA. CIMB just like poisoned snow white.

UOB I got it in 1 week which the week only have 4 working days. OCBC also fast but approve 80% only.

Decided to take UOB since all other bank have very bad service. One thing I'm not understand is why UOB can approve 40yrs? I'm 35 already. notworthy.gif
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post Jan 7 2010, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(iceanise @ Jan 7 2010, 01:12 PM)
pbb come back to me quite fast, only take about 4 days

sc also come back to me quite fast, i think they can let me know within 2 days

uob is around 4 days

cimb no reply at all....sleeping jor

ocbc, that alex, is extremely slow and like to lie....said submitted my doc but actually didnt, i call and ask another fren of mine who's working in ocbc....
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Ya la... is not the bank problem... it's the CO problem.

I complaint them already. vmad.gif
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post Jan 7 2010, 06:06 PM

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Anyone went to the site recently? Any progress on the site?

I will go there next monday. Will update you guys.
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post Jan 7 2010, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(iceanise @ Jan 7 2010, 06:19 PM)
then i think i will sign pbb liao
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Why PBB?
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post Jan 8 2010, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(AbangCorp @ Jan 7 2010, 10:56 PM)
done pg 30
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Hope AbangCorp will unite over 500 buyers.. then no management can fight us. We are the management... thumbup.gif rclxms.gif notworthy.gif
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post Jan 8 2010, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(xiaopygu @ Jan 7 2010, 06:49 PM)
Dear all,

To resolve the doubt of first disbursement = full disbursement:

For under construstion property, the way that bank releases money to the developer is according to the progress of construction stated in the 3rd schedule in s&p. First disbursement starts when the day that the bank pay the first payment to the developer. IF u r financing 90% loan, after the 10% downpayment, when the bank releases the following 10% to the developer, it starts the first disbursement date. Thus, lock in period starts from full disbursement is a disadvantage to investor who intends to sell the property after completion. coz by the time bank fully disburse to the developer could be in 3 yrs later, by then ur total lock in period will be 8 yrs. Unless u willing to pay the penalty charged.

Completed property has no progressive payment like the under con property does, so the first disbursement will be the full amount of ur loan financed. Thus, first disbursement also equal to full disbursement.

Regarding loan offers, guess below are the things that u may need to put into consideration:

- interest rate, of course (however every bank almost offers the same rate. a minor 0.05% makes no different if u r taking flexible loan or the bank loan allows u to do prepayment to offset loan principal)
- lock in period especially for investor. (thus personally i think pbb is not good for investor unless u foresee the property wont sell in 8 yrs time)
- service. u never know when it comes to disbursement. some banks tend to delay in payment. If the bank late in releasing money to the developers, not dev but u r the one who bear the late payment charges. (personally im willing to pay slightly higher interest for a better service)
- Hidden cost. fyi, pbb has a lot of charges like rm 75 land search and blah blah blah.
- forget about interest rate change to BLR plus 2% or 3% for the default payment unless u really think that u hv such potential in defaulting ur installment. THis is standard clause la.. every bank applies.
- Loan tenure in fact, the longer the better coz eventually u may do prepayment to save interest while lower down ur monthly commitment. It helps in ur next loan approval.
- withdrawal flexibility and charges unless u really utilize the facility (eg. pump in ur salary to reduce interest) especially for those business owner, otherwise dun worry abt the withdrawal charges la...
- daily rest/month rest it makes a lot of different

Abt MRTA/MLTA.. whether its mrta or mlta or mtta or mdta or wutever a... it's all life insurance but describe in different terms only. All insured the same things, death and total permanent disability. Wut we concern is on the surrender value and the beneficiary. If u were to take mrta from the bank, of course bank will be the beneficiary coz ur property is their security. If any happen to u, insurance institute helps u to pay for the loan. Bank wont care abt u but the money. and its not transferrable if u refinance the property coz by tat time the property is no longer their colletaral security, who cares if u need to purchase a new policy with higher premium. For those who can affort, mlta really better than mrta.

Talking abt the HLB issue. There is no surprise if the law firm claims that hong leong is one of their panel coz this means that particular law firm can prepare loan agreement for hong leong bank. But whether or not Hong leong acts as the end financial (panel banks) for this project, that is another story. Hong leong can be the law firm panel but not necessary to be 1120 PA's panel bank. If it's not under the end financial listing, u may not enjoy the promotion!
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Thanks for the sophisticated information. The article really good for those first time property buyer.


Added on January 8, 2010, 3:01 pm
QUOTE(limyusiong @ Jan 8 2010, 01:07 PM)
if fail to do so, any damage ah???nt entitled for 7.5% bonus or interest charge there???
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Lim, remember when you pay booking fees? They give you a letter stated that the expired date of the promotion?

I told the SA got business trip and will be back on 15/01/10. So the letter stated promotion until 15/01/10. But then the other agreement stated sign S&P within 2 weeks. I ask the SA to write and sign on the agreement until 15/01/10.

If after the expired date, they have right to sell your unit to other buyer or no more promotion goodies and forfeited RM500 if you cancelled.

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post Jan 8 2010, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(fiecks84 @ Jan 8 2010, 04:50 PM)
I wrote:

But what I heard is, the Phase 2 price is around 10% to 15% higher than Phase 1, or around 10k to 15k above the Phase 1 selling price.

Because, I heard from Ms Choo, it is 10k to 15k above Phase 1 price, and I heard another story from bankers and lawyer, it is 10% to 15% higher...No one will know how much the exact price will increase until the day of launch la friend, except who has close relationship with developer or may be their staff. I just letting everyone know what I heard.

Definitely 10% and 10k is a BIG difference, but I wrote down there, "OR"... so, either one lor! not "AND"...

And to make it clear, developer did not tell me! I just have borak2 kosong with the staff while placing my deposit. So, at least, we have rough idea, how the Phase 2 is positioned in the market, and how the prospect of future price of this property. To know the truth, or to know the exact figure, just wait for the launch lar, it is few days to go wat!
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If we are the buyer of 1120PA then it's good news no matter 10% or 10k. We don't care about it's too high or too low as long as the property appreciate.

If we are not the buyer then of course increase too much will make me red eyes and if increase too low then will make me happy.

So Fiecks84, anyone have right to give their feedback. Don't waste your energy to reply not relevant feedback better... tongue.gif

Hope AbangCorp can gather 500 buyers.... and we will control the management.... and our meeting will be right here anytime anywhere.... smile.gif
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post Jan 8 2010, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(limyusiong @ Jan 8 2010, 07:59 PM)
King, my same floor neighbor, same L type...1 floor onli gt 2 unit L type....so u knw i knw la...hahaha

going to pay my 10% deposit on mon...then sit there relax, wait for condo ready by 2013!!!...2 yrs 11 months and 22 days to go....hahaha
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Lim, your unit is B3-youknowiknow-01? Great to hear that..... bravo!!!!!!!! I think we have chance to meet up on Monday... my appointment is 10am... rclxm9.gif
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post Jan 8 2010, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(limyusiong @ Jan 8 2010, 08:56 PM)
10am cannot lo...i going over around 2-3pm....so i c u after 3 yrs when move in la!!!
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No problem... developer promise date: 15/01/2013 time elapse: 1102 days 2 hours 46 minutes 10 seconds....

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post Jan 11 2010, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(AbangCorp @ Jan 11 2010, 01:26 PM)
1120 park avenue

i wonder what malay name should it be  hmm.gif
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Park = Taman
Avenue = Jalan yg teduh dgn pepohon di sebelah menyebelahnya lebuh raya.

How? hmm.gif


Added on January 11, 2010, 3:43 pmJust came back from the developer office. SA ask me to come over on this friday to see whether GOT OR NOT phase 2 launching.... whistling.gif

I think most probably launch on this friday. There have 900 registered. The most important for phase 1 buyer is how much increase.... smile.gif So have a visit this weekend to 88.

I'm having lunch on one of the chinese coffee shop who live there almost 20 years. The boss said it's a mining land but only 10 meters deep. He gossip about Peter's who delay the development on the land waiting for the land value to increase. He said waited for 20 years now only build 1120PA. He feel happy now because will bringing more business.

Another thing is the SA there really act like gangster style... Maybe they use to sell low cost flat. I'm wonder the Papilion also have the same sales team or not. But I don't think so.... doh.gif

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post Jan 11 2010, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(chris lee @ Jan 11 2010, 05:11 PM)
Ur opinion can b good info,but sometime giving too much of opinion is not so good.it may hurt the purchaser of 1120.i`m not showing any offence here.hehe
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The problem is mak rempit also available in Puchong, PJ, even though on his own stay area but where got people tell "My place xxx have mak rempit".

Thus, mak rempit and motorcycle lover are different story. Mak rempit we link it to snatch thief wheares motorcycle lover they spend their night on the bike and the sport is where they can afford. But good thing is they contribute a lot of business to motorcycle repair shop and Petrol company. They need to eat and drink right?

So, please don't see the world through the key hole. Nowaday hard to find a well, so no more frog story.


Added on January 11, 2010, 7:21 pm
QUOTE(106127 @ Jan 11 2010, 06:58 PM)
they reli like ganster style dar? how?
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Haha... I nearly want to scold them already just now in their office. They give more reason to avoid your question rather than try more ways to find solution. Thus, they like to play POKER!!!!!

If any of the SA read this thread, 1120 PA is not cheap OK??????????????

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Added on January 11, 2010, 7:23 pm
QUOTE(AbangCorp @ Jan 11 2010, 07:07 PM)
you dont wanna buy, i buy

but i agree, honest ppl are very hard to find
especially business man
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Me too, I still want to buy if the SA is lousy.... SA 1 month salary how much we all know what.... same to other business with support desk. They don't work for you, they work for their salary standard.

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post Jan 11 2010, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(106127 @ Jan 11 2010, 08:17 PM)
they dont tell. and will even hide it.
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Yes.... agree!

I hate to read agreement because it's like non-sense sometime.

Example:

Developer will bear all the interest...... bla bla bla...

Purchaser will also bear the interest IF.... bla bla bla...

Is it non-sense? doh.gif
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post Jan 12 2010, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(ethan99 @ Jan 12 2010, 09:32 AM)
2nd phase launching this Friday(15/1) + 15%-20% up!!!
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Are you sure? True or not I will choose to trust... rclxm9.gif


Added on January 12, 2010, 11:23 amGlad to see people writing and giving comments with a great respect to each other without discriminating who they are, no matter age, race or religious!

I love this statement. Racist is very important, because of racist a country can collapse.

I love this forum too, not same as other forum have a lot of arrogant forumer who think they are the banker, developer even think they always the right one.


Added on January 12, 2010, 11:30 am
QUOTE(ch_leong @ Jan 12 2010, 10:11 AM)
Wah, the price become so steep ar? Still a worth buy or not?
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I don't think so because the phase 1 price was too low. Trust me, the one who make decision on the selling price for phase 1 sure regret just after 10 days when all units sold off. sweat.gif

If really increase 15%-20% in phase 2 then I will congratulate phase 1 buyer including me but phase 2 buyer will still have profit margin due to the area still have a lot of opportunity to grow.

Ever heard of 2 brothers story who intend to expand their shoes business to india?

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post Jan 12 2010, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(limyusiong @ Jan 12 2010, 11:34 AM)
SOS???
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??????????????? sweat.gif
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post Jan 12 2010, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(limyusiong @ Jan 12 2010, 01:57 PM)
SOS = Source for tat rumous saying Phase II price gonna + 15%-20% up!!!
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Haha....
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post Jan 12 2010, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(limyusiong @ Jan 12 2010, 02:21 PM)
yes, dun jus simply taruh la...show me ur prove...like tat i oso can said...

PHASE II price going to increase by 100-200% due to super hot demand!!!

well, no need to argue here oso can...jsu drop by tis wkend n check it out lol
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I will call first and confirm the sales office sound fish market then only go... lol...


Added on January 12, 2010, 3:48 pm
QUOTE(redrebel @ Jan 12 2010, 02:11 PM)
Hi there, i got a lot in Tower 2 to let go. so far i js paid up the booking fees. Anyone interested?
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When you make booking? if not mistaken, this week is the last week to settle everything for the promotion. I heard 20/12/2009 is the day all units sold out.

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post Jan 12 2010, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(redrebel @ Jan 12 2010, 04:45 PM)
yeah.. that's wat i heard, but not from the sales office. so if those really wana buy it, then mayb u can sign the S&P together with the 10% downpayment by this week.
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what is your unit number and type?
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post Jan 13 2010, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(AbangCorp @ Jan 12 2010, 10:16 PM)
Lets make sure our condo finished on time

1 – graneon pg 1 post 16
2 – legolas pg 1 post 19 B3-XX-XX (facing west)
3 – 0106127 pg 2 post 22
4 – ethan99’s friend pg 2 post 23
5 – ethan99 pg 2 post 26 B1-XX-XX
6 – ausmat pg 2 post 31 B1-XX-XX
7 – borebby pg 3 post 46
8 – cheraspeople pg 3 post 48
9 – limyusiong pg 3 post 54 B1-09-XX (L unit nr 1, 14)
10 – gstrapinuse pg 3 post 57
11 – legolas’s friend 01 pg 3 post 58 B3-15-XX
12 – legolas’s friend 02 pg 3 post 58 B3-16-XX
13 – colt45 pg 4 post 61
14 – aliciaqsp pg 4 post 69 B1-12-06 (s2)
15 – klkow pg 4 post 70 B3-11-13 (S unit)
16 – sk00 pg 4 post 76 B3-XX-08 (m)
17 – iceanise pg 5 post 81 (m unit nr 7, 8, 9, 10, facing east)
18 – sarsi00 pg 5 post 87 BX-11-XX (l unit nr 1, 14)
19 – trextan pg 5 post 90 B3-XX-XX (plan to release unit)
20 – juneodue pg 6 post 107 (plan to release unit)
21 – dxt pg 6 post 118 B1-07-08 (m)
22 – brianchinh pg 7 post 123 B1-04-07 (m)
23 – limwc78 pg 7 post 133
24 – 20yrsinsrisentosa pg 7 post 135
25 – misnail pg 8 post 148
26 – cambede pg 8 post 152 B3-14-XX (s unit nr 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 11, 12, 13) released
27 – mzmz --> abangcorp pg 10 post 190 B1-15-02 (s)
28 - estherlo pg 13 post 250 (assumption)
29 - raymond2451 pg 14 post 263 (M unit nr 7, 8, 9, 10)
30 - king4891 pg 14 post 264 B3-09-13A (L)
31 - ntick pg 14 post 279 B3-XX-XX
32 - ntick's sister pg 14 post 279 B3-XX-XX
33 - fiecks84 pg 15 post 295 B1-0X-09 (M)
34 - oucheev pg 19 post 375 (assumption)
35 - kornflake pg 19 post 380 (assumption)
36 - nmt170 pg 20 post 383
37 - EVA01 pg 31 post 606 BX-XX-11
38 - alexlean pg 33 post 658 B1-xx-02
39 - chris lee pg 34 post 665 B1-XX-13A
40 - KChan pg 21 post 412
41 - oucheev pg 21 post 419
42 - Nee2010 pg 22 post 439 (plan to release, type l)
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i manage to collect up to page 20 of this thread
will do again once have courage

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Phase 1 should be no more than 476 units based on the calculation 17x14x2=476 (lower grounds have less than 14 units per floor). And Phase 1 & 2 in total are 1120 units. That's where the name 1120 Park Avenue comes from

39 / 470 = 0.0829 * 100% = 8.30% 1120 pa buyer are lowyat member
number is increasing

if your name is not there, pls bring your ic to me for verification  thumbup.gif
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AbangCorp, my unit is B3-XX-13A. I'm not 9th floor... please help to change. tks. smile.gif
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post Jan 13 2010, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(cheraspeople @ Jan 13 2010, 12:06 PM)
SA don't need to speculate la. They should already knew it. Don't know why so secretive.
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Possible they don't know because the SA there are from Internal Department such as Account, Credit Control and etc.... Those hidung tinggi I believe is from Sales & Marketing.

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