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 1120 Park Avenue - PJ South, any comments?

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king4891
post Dec 30 2009, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(KChan @ Dec 30 2009, 05:49 PM)
I just got a call from UOB saying my loan approved. MoF is 90% at BLR - 1.85. The only problem is it is normal term loan not flexi package. I enquire why is that so. But the Officer says for this project it is term loan. Not offering flexi package. Not sure with other banks as there are no news yet. I'm not sure why they are giving term loan but I notice something in the additional letter that the developer give for the 3 year interest free agreement. In the letter, clause 2 reads as follow:

The Loan shall only be obtained from the Panel Financiers and shall mean a term loan granted to the Purchaser pursuant to the terms and conditions approved by the Vendor and not any other type of banking facility obtained by the Purchaser to finance up to ninety per centum (90%) of the Purchase Price of the Parcel.


Added on December 30, 2009, 5:59 pmI think the developer already discuss with their Panel Financiers on this interest free period thing. So to guarantee the banks make money for this deal, they can only grant term loan so we as buyer cannot prepaid the account fully thus making the bank lose money in the loan. Hope I'm wrong where other banks willing to give flexi loan.
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My UOB told me is semi-flexi. Can dump extra to deduct principal. Thus, can withdraw from the account too.
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post Dec 30 2009, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(ohserena @ Dec 30 2009, 06:52 PM)
Have you compare the price between MRTA and MLTA?
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MLTA a bit more expensive but can choose to pay monthly or yearly. The important is can get back the moeny right? rclxms.gif
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post Dec 30 2009, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(oucheev @ Dec 30 2009, 09:19 PM)
Got a call from my UOB agent. My loan is approved but the Letter of Offer is still not out.

Even though I have not seen the Letter of Offer, I think the terms are better than SC.

The main thing is UOB is on daily interests whereas SC is on monthly interests.

Also, UOB lets you include the legal and stamping fees into the loan.

Anyone is taking EPF to pay the 10% deposit? I have already signed the S&P agreement last Sun.

I can't submit to EPF yet because the S&P & Loan Agreement is not out yet and I think this will take another week or two.

How long will it take to withdraw from EPF?
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EPF withdrawal 1-2 weeks.


Added on December 30, 2009, 11:36 pm
QUOTE(kornflake @ Dec 30 2009, 10:14 PM)
1) Inside uob offer letter, mrta is compulsory to be taken.
sa say can take out mrta.
can i apply mrta from other insurance and retain the policy with me instead of passing to the bank?

2) uob offer letter given is based on 40 years loan.
i request to change it to 25 years but sa ask to sign current offer letter first then after 1 week will prepare supplementary offer letter. got no black & white, how arr??? later im stuck with a 40 years loan. die arr!!

3) is uob offering term loan or semi-flexi loan?
is everyone out there who applied uob getting the same package or diff?
can we request to change the tnc??
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I think you misunderstand on the loan tenure. If the bank approve longer loan tenure is better because the repayment will be low. It's good for those tight budget buyer but it's the same too if you can made repayment higher.

We always can repayment more and the tenure will be shorten.

Ambank have a very good calculation page. http://www.ambg.com.my/retail.asp?sc=retai...cing_calculator

At Do you want to make extra principal repayments? Select YES, type additional amount to pay per month. Then will know how many years shorten.

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post Dec 31 2009, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(aliciaqsp @ Dec 31 2009, 12:02 AM)
withdraw KWSP need letter offer from bank which we already sign?

can we withdraw from KWSP 1st, since developer want us pay the 10% after sign S n P,
although i already have letter offer, but i wish to wait others bank offer....
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If not mistaken, withdrawal of EPF need S&P and Loan offer letter or loan agreement.

Additional info on withdrawal for non-marriaged couple:

If S&P have bf & gf name and loan have bf name only then EPF only allow the person in the loan agreement to withdraw.

If marriaged then allow both epf to withdraw.

In your case, I think you can withdraw now because EPF won't lock which bank you use and in future will not allow for 2nd withdrawal because you choose other bank at the end. EPF only lock your name on the property. Meaning your EPF cannot withdraw for other property until the property sold or fully paid. Please call EPF to confirm. If EPF need loan agreement then don't have choice to confirm which bank you want first.


Added on December 31, 2009, 12:19 am
QUOTE(gstrapinuse @ Dec 31 2009, 12:14 AM)
By the time u get back the money, its already depreciate.So rather buy MRTA than MLTA.
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I didn't get you.

MRTA depreciate totally.

MLTA depreciate on inflation only.

This post has been edited by king4891: Dec 31 2009, 12:21 AM
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post Dec 31 2009, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(aliciaqsp @ Dec 31 2009, 09:32 AM)
the application PENGELUARAN MEMBELI RUMAH with me, there stated tat need attach with SURAT KELULUSAN PINJAMAN PERUMAHAN
rclxub.gif  dunt know is that means offer letter saja or ...  tongue.gif
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Offer = Tawaran

Approve = Kelulusan

If approve means loan agreement right? keke... rclxub.gif

If offer letter then you still can change after apply EPF but call them to confirm first. Better look for higher post if possible, if not you will regret.... doh.gif
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post Dec 31 2009, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(ausmat @ Dec 31 2009, 03:01 PM)
A friend of mine also getting the same call from the developer.... I was wonder... issit the developer don't want to bare the 2-3% merchant charge for credit card.....

I am also paying with credit card.... may be i will be the next... sad.gif

Happy New Year!!!
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My credit card show 2k debited. I think some of the SA just swap your card using the manual machine and never call the bank for verification. Possible right? notworthy.gif
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post Dec 31 2009, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Nee2010 @ Dec 31 2009, 06:25 PM)
Hi, anyone, do u guys remember what the developer promises before? we paid 2k for booking, if refund is we can take back 1.8k, but now they are different story, they said only can refund 1.5k only!

Last time, we request black & white for this statement, but they said no need, is promise will refund 1.8k, but now?only  will refund 1.5k! so shit!  mad.gif

Got some1 have this case as mine??


Added on December 31, 2009, 6:28 pmI would like to cancel my unit, anyone interest? my unit is L type, 1193 s.f, at level 8.
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The SA told me refund 1.5k with bank reject loan letter. I'm interested on your unit. Please check ur mailbox.

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post Jan 1 2010, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(AbangCorp @ Jan 1 2010, 11:10 AM)
i tot you already book for a unit there, add one more?

what i must say good thing about you, you really a nice king here rather than the other forum
long live the king
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Other forum have non-sense so I need to talk non-sense in order to shut up the non-sense.... haha.

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post Jan 3 2010, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(AbangCorp @ Jan 3 2010, 01:12 PM)
now nobody reply to this thread

i think most of purchaser already sign their SnP

that is a good thing. construction can start immediately, the completion also fast

i am comparing alike price condo for semarak and penaga condo, they are still selling
so this developer does not meet so much hurdle, thanks to its campaign

there's a condo fortune park at seri kembangan, completed but still have empty unit
perhaps it was sold by real estate agency, should i am wrong

i sign maybe this week. anybody share the same boat
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I think most of the buyer on vacation now... smile.gif I heard from one of the SA, almost over 95% sign s&p before expired of 2 weeks + 2 weeks epf. It's really a good sign. Of course the SA don't know whether the buyer loan approved before signed.

I will sign s&p on next Monday. Actually my deadline is on 15/01/2010... smile.gif

I think 20/01/2010 will be deadline for all buyers because I heard from the SA on 20th all units sold.
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post Jan 4 2010, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(cutealex @ Jan 3 2010, 11:42 PM)
all loan approve? dunno phase 2 lanuch on Feb will hot sales or not
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It's gonna be another fish market if pay 10% and nothing else until completion (3 years) plus 7.5% rebate remain the same. thumbup.gif


Added on January 4, 2010, 3:04 pm
QUOTE(AbangCorp @ Jan 4 2010, 09:11 AM)
1 more thing, "Untuk pengetahuan anda, setahun selepas anda membuat pengeluaran perumahan yang pertama, anda dibenarkan untuk membuat pengeluaran daripada Akaun II simpanan KWSP anda untuk mengurangkan pinjaman perumahan anda pada setiap tahun."

the validity period for mengurangkan pinjaman perumahan for how many years? is it until repayment complete?
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You can opt for monthly too.


Added on January 4, 2010, 3:08 pm
QUOTE(gstrapinuse @ Jan 4 2010, 09:15 AM)
Its refinance but u cannot pay more than 50% of the loan that u borrowed from bank or else u'll kena penalty.
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UOB have this terms too. I don't think so all bank will penalise if repayment over 50% within 5 years.

The agreement is within the bonding period. (Bonding period = locking period).

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post Jan 4 2010, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(limwc78 @ Jan 4 2010, 03:37 PM)
finally my loan was aprrove and going to sign by this week.  Hooray
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Which bank approved? Mind to share? Tks.
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post Jan 4 2010, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(gstrapinuse @ Jan 4 2010, 03:41 PM)
Yaya, which bank??I am waiting for PBB...
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How long you was waiting for PBB already?
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post Jan 4 2010, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(lokideangelus @ Jan 4 2010, 03:42 PM)
hi all just saw the ad that the phase 2 is up... any thought?

need you all sifu's advice as im a noob in property .. i'm buying my 1st house...
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My own opinions are:

1) Your budget. (This property help a lot for the first 4.5 years. Thus, help for investment purpose too.)

2) Location.

3) Surrounding acceptable or not?

4) Good Rental?

5) Developer reliable?

6) Net profit of 45k for Phase 2 Type L after 3 years for investment acceptable?

Welcome all opinion to help our friend here.... tks.

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post Jan 4 2010, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(kornflake @ Jan 4 2010, 03:57 PM)
my gal who attended super slow!!!
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My PBB is a guy... same... very slow.


Added on January 4, 2010, 4:01 pm
QUOTE(gstrapinuse @ Jan 4 2010, 03:56 PM)
Waited for 5days..they approved already but i wanna add MRTA in..so need to reprocess again lor..they will get back to me by this week...that gal attend to me very fast n efficient...
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Wow... it's really fast... Mind to PM her contact number? Tks.

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post Jan 4 2010, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(limwc78 @ Jan 4 2010, 03:53 PM)
PBB BLR-1.9 already wait for 2 weeks to approve.
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Estimated on BLR -1.9 vs -1.85 if 30 years BLR at 5.55%:

-1.9%
Loan Amount: RM240,000.00
Loan Period: 30 year(s)
Interest Rate: 3.64%
Monthly Installment: RM1,097.90
Total (RM) 240,000.00 Interest: 155,245.06

Loan & Interest (RM) 395,245.06

-1.85%
Loan Amount: RM240,000.00
Loan Period: 30 year(s)
Interest Rate: 3.70%
Monthly Installment: RM1,104.67
Total (RM) 240,000.00 Interest: 157,684.49

Loan & Interest (RM) 397,684.49

Different only 2-3k but you will lost of penalty total of 3% of 240k at RM8.4k if you decided to sell it within the locking period. Meaning with PBB you will have 8 years locking period whereas other bank only 5 years from the first disbursement which expected start on March 2010. After completion, left only 2 years of bonding period.

We won't know on that time whether want to sell it or rent it. So better opt for other bank other than PBB.
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post Jan 4 2010, 04:26 PM

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Another example if BLR increase 1% by every 10 years.

BLR -1.9%

Total (RM) Loan :240000 Interest : 186164 Loan & Interest : 426164

BLR -1.85%

Total (RM) Loan :240000 Interest : 188745 Loan & Interest : 428745

The different still under 3k.


Added on January 4, 2010, 4:31 pm
QUOTE(gstrapinuse @ Jan 4 2010, 04:22 PM)
I got ask that gal about the locking period.She told me from 1st drawndown...but i'll check the Letter Offer once i get it...Verbally also cannot be trusted 1...
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If from first drawndown then PBB will the best choice. I personally like PBB for the flexi plan. Provided ATM card right? No charges to redrawn right?

I just call the CO, he said bonding period upon FULL drawndown. Maybe different customer have different terms. I think I will go for UOB, no want to wait anymore.

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post Jan 4 2010, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(cheraspeople @ Jan 4 2010, 04:42 PM)
i choose SCB because lock in period will be started upon siging letter offer. it is -1.85 term loan.
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Is it flexi plan? if yes, how does it work? PBB have the best flexi plan which will save a lot of interest charged but the locking period upon full drawndown.

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post Jan 4 2010, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(sk00 @ Jan 4 2010, 04:44 PM)
Even though i am 1 of the buyer of 1120 Park avenue, i have few concern as i am not very familiar with KL/Selangor location. Please enlighten me on this

1. I have go around the place but i found that currently the occupancy for the shophouse is less. What is the reason for the less occupancy.

2. What is the race population on the place? It is a mix race majority population?

Hope to have more clarification on the area as some of the forum state 1120 park avenue is located in a strategic place.
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My own opinion on the area:

1) Think back 15 years ago on OUG houses. The shophouse occupancy rate also low. 5 years back, OUG was bombing. After the completion of the highway and the OKR. A lot of new property kick off there including 1120PA. Petaling Utama is consist of low to medium class residents. After 1120PA occupied, I believe the shophouse there will be improve. Of course, Peter's will not miss the opportunity for up coming higher class development if 1120PA are successfully sold.

2) According to the SA, the area have mix race consist of Malays, Chinese and Indian. Anyone also want to improve their lifestyle. If themselve cannot improve, they always hope their next generation will be improve. A modern affordable property will help on this. I personally think that the area have more Malays follow by Indian. If within of 10KM radius then I think Chinese have the most.

Welcome more opinions.


Added on January 4, 2010, 5:04 pm
QUOTE(cheraspeople @ Jan 4 2010, 04:55 PM)
I am not taking MRTA because most likely will let it go after lock in period if can't fetch good rental there.
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Just to share my opinion on MRTA.

MRTA is a protection from the day we paid for it and I know a lot of people knew what it is.

If you said most likely will let it go meaning minimum from now is 3 years. My advise is better to purchase the MRTA now and not after 3 years when you decide to rent it out.

Hope you know my concern.

Thus, once you sell it after 5 years from now. You will get back the balance of 25 years MRTA fees if you get 30 years.

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post Jan 4 2010, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(cheraspeople @ Jan 4 2010, 05:10 PM)
Can get back 27 years of MRTA? I didn'y know that. I thought we can't get back what we have paid for MRTA?
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Example:

30 years = 3k MRTA fees.

If cancel after 5 years, will refund 2.5k.

Of course the real calculation may vary. It's just a simple one. smile.gif

MLTA better because you can get back ALL you paid after matured plus earn interest from the insurance company. You can also opt for montly/yearly repayment for MLTA.

MRTA cannot transfer from 1 perperty to another.

MLTA can transfer as long as the property have your name.
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post Jan 4 2010, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(cheraspeople @ Jan 4 2010, 05:29 PM)
I just called up banker and per them the calculation is very complex and they have no standard calculation can share with me. Per them the surrender value back to me will not be high.
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My insurance agent told me can get back 100% plus interest. AIA.

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