Hye..guys... previously Im using xbox360 pro " Falcon made" and its not unmodded.. but after dying on 3 times ring of death..I throw and I buy new one Xbox360 arcade edition "Jasper" ..so I keep thinking in my mind it is safe I go online? will I got banned?

my question is

1. It is safe I play online and Im using my original games.."I dun own pirated"

2. It is safe if just browse the Xbox360 content on the internet such like using media center?

3. Did my xbox live ID would get banned

4. If I register new one Xboxlive ID , did microsoft my xbox360 jasper modded?

Thanks...

Are you asking..?

1. It is safe I play online and Im using my original games.."I dun own pirated"
Is it safe to play online with original games (I don't own pirated games)?

2. It is safe if just browse the Xbox360 content on the internet such like using media center?
Is it safe to browse the internet?

3. Did my xbox live ID would get banned
Would my Live ID get banned?

4. If I register new one Xboxlive ID , did microsoft my xbox360 jasper modded?
Would MS detect my modded Jasper with a new Live ID?

Anyway, why buy a modded 360 if you intend to play on Live with legal software?

This post has been edited by gundamalpha: Dec 8 2009, 02:12 PM

damn... yeah,,,I cannot find unmodded jasper... so I buy modded one... so how?

to be blunt, so too bad lo..

I was also in the same situation (can't find unmodded ones)... I waited and waited and eventually found one from a local seller.

Anyway I believe once the console in modded, the next time Microsoft checks, your console will be banned from Live. Meanwhile, you still can browse and play Live. Just enjoy while you can

TS,

you should ask around and not buying implusively on modded console.
You've invested on a wrong thing.

Shops like GH do sell original and even if you can't get it, you can still go to singapore to buy one.

Once mod is detected it'll be banned. it's not about you're using original or not, it's about detection of the console by a way a physical reading on the modded console is slightly different from originals.

Don't even try to ask what is the different. there's no answer available outside of Microsoft.

so..If I go online now... It safe rite?... Microsoft would ban my xbox360 modded if I do what?

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Added on December 8, 2009, 2:59 pmGosh singapore..too far...and too expensive.. Hrm... I buying for assassin creed II..cannot wait..so I rushly buying.. in that case..I still using original and Im afraid to signed in LIVE

This post has been edited by Gerard_way89: Dec 8 2009, 02:59 PM

Why not sell the modded one and get a unmodded one... maybe lose a couple of hundred but imo its worth it.

May I also suggest that next time, ask the important questions before purchasing.

Just play offline, there's nothing wrong with it

Its not safe to go online. But enjoy it while it last.

After you have experienced it, you may then want to get another unmodded console.

Good luck.

i dunno how MS detect the modded or ahem games, sharing my experience here

but for my case, my first zephyr set is modded also, but also play original only

my 2 months trial of gold account (2 diff account) is working fine, after online for many many moons until now

now have upgraded to jasper set (also modded) few weeks back, still online daily to download DLCs, demos, trailers and such, still ok today

hrm... its hard to find unmodded console..really..damn hard... yeah...i should ask..hrm...

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Added on December 8, 2009, 3:19 pmur xbox360 is modded rite.. so..ur xbox..still didn't get ban?.. even u go online?

This post has been edited by Gerard_way89: Dec 8 2009, 03:19 PM

no ban hammer for me, unti now... playing originals only

actually i dont see how difficult is it to get an unmodded set, if you ask those modded seller for an unmodded set, they would tell you u had to wait for 1-2 weeks for an unmod set, so why not wait?

even in this forum you could find min of 4 ppl selling unmodded set.

there is no point in getting an modded set to play originals only, its like installing turbo on a car, but you always shift gear before 3000rpm (b4 turbo kick off) lol if you get what i mean .

1a Modded : Play Original = Will be banned if caught
1b Modded : Play Original + Online = Will be banned eventually.

2a Modded & Browse content = Banned too, eventually
2b Modded & Download demo or video = Banned too, eventually

3a Depends if your xbox downloads the update released on 20th October 2009, which is probably going to be downloaded into your console the first time u plug it in to Live.
3b Yes if you have downloaded the update. Some people has escaped Gamertag ID ban by having 2 gamertags on console. The ban results in gamertag id ban, save games crippled, install hdd removed, watching video disabled. Many more unknown. Carrying these items to an unbanned console would restore some features Gamertag recovery is neccesary then

4a Connecting to Live already tells MS your serial, which also allows it to know its Jasper.
4b. Yes they know immediately.

Conclusion :

You will be banned regardless of what you do. Trust a person who has read 250 pages of modding the xbox
It doesnt matter whether you play your games earlier than release date
It doesnt matter whether you play your games after release date
It doesnt matter whether you play original or pirated
It doesnt matter whether you installed to hdd or not

Fact is real that MS knows you modded and what ever original you try 2 do after that just flags you, making you wait for a ban to be sent down to your console.

When you are modded, just connecting to MS servers would treat u as unmodded console... until they decide to check it throughly.. MS are very confident ppl when they ban and when they have found enough evidence. They dont revert their ban hammers for anything. Small groups of ppl however has managed to find a loop hole to their ban hammer.. I wouldnt share about that.

Yes, it is unavoidable. As long as you have connected to Live with it, MS knows you are out there and would probably just flag it for banning, this year or the next.. Some sooner, some later..

Basically my understanding is the ban is actually a system update which disabled and work the way it was programmed on the system update.

So brace yourself if u see some stupid update is coming through....

Xbox360..just like a windows Version..so I think they would ban my xbox..if I Update a pirated games.. " I don't own pirated"

just would like to add1 more thing. NEVER try to plug in another healthy hdd into a banned console because the moment you plug in that healthy hdd it will immediately corrupt everything inside the hdd. once the console is banned no matter you are connected to LIVE or not it will still corrupt any healthy hdd. i found out about this during my fieldwork and lost all my precious data.

Is it safe?

We are never safe. Between the threat of nuclear war, global warming and the impending zombie apocalypse, id say being safe has been a long lost convenience.

It not from game update. they actually marked your console and monitor your console very closely when you online. You won't get it on a game update. you'll get it when one time suddenly you get a system update.

There's something like disc spin degree and other console vital stats that's M$ is monitoring and not the game.

I not using my old hdd with is falcon hdd..I afraid my jasper would get rod..if I plug in..so... if the hdd get banned.. still can use rite?

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Added on December 8, 2009, 11:23 pmrecently..I go online..and the system is asked..u want to update or not.. then I chose yes.. and the system automatically update..it take 129mb..
For now on.. my xbox360 still ok.. So for the future? how?.. damn....

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Added on December 8, 2009, 11:26 pmhahaha..thats rite.. malaysian also not safe...hahahaha..

This post has been edited by Gerard_way89: Dec 8 2009, 11:26 PM

and im so sorry causing u dat

agreed it is not from game update

your xbox is actually "flagged" when u connect 2 live
these tests are random.. some1 was able to monitor encrypted packets sent to Live servers and the checks are there. only occasionally..

if you so happen to be modded (regardless of whatever good you have done such as : play offline original, play online original, play offline gamertag or so on), you will be flagged

from then onwards, its close monitoring without u knowing

testing XBOX LIVE connection bans u when MS decides that they have enough evidence
testing warranty and support could "identify" whether you are banned, but thats calling Microsoft and getting shit upon

basically, MS knows everything as long as u have connected to live. whether or not it decides to ban u immediately or later is their choice

some ppl survive... 3 years... some people survive, 3 hours

ive read it all, lol

i think Gerard_way89 is way too young to understand our given advise, now that you have updated. you could say you are attached to a time bomb now.

just to let you know b4 you got banned, a modded console could still sell for around 800+ if you include yr ahem game if you have. a banned modded console probably could go below 500(pricing depends how serious yr ban hammer hit u). so if u are planning to switch to an unmodded console act fast.

Guys, what about a modded-and-then-Demodded console.

Will it still be banned too?

play safe...use malaysian rubber

how if i just connected to live for like 5 mins ?will get banned too ?
just want my achievement..

damn u rite..maybe I attach a time bomb in my xbox360... so I pray MS would not ban my xbox Fuh... But I surely playing all my original Games.. and also playing online.. the game update i also do..

So I wanna asked.. If I got ban ..My Xbox360 cannot do what?

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Added on December 9, 2009, 1:09 pm5 mins? haha.. now My xbox360 survive 3 days on Xboxlive

This post has been edited by Gerard_way89: Dec 9 2009, 01:09 PM

it is like Jcsy said.

[ 3b Yes if you have downloaded the update. Some people has escaped Gamertag ID ban by having 2 gamertags on console. The ban results in gamertag id ban, save games crippled, install hdd removed, watching video disabled. Many more unknown. Carrying these items to an unbanned console would restore some features Gamertag recovery is neccesary then ]

so to summarize save game lost/corrupted, cannot install game on HDD, gamertag id corrupted(no new achievement points), not able to use Live!, cannot watch video?

i think the ban wave is over.

wow..thanks microsoft...dammit..I hope My Xbox survive till the end of time

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Added on December 9, 2009, 2:11 pmWTH ? ban wave is over? got 2nd round...

This post has been edited by Gerard_way89: Dec 9 2009, 02:11 PM

well usually it happens around some special holiday, or a hit title reached the stores.

so is it 100% safe now ? i just want to get that achivement from my 3rod xbox.the only way is to sign in profile using new xbox. (not sure of other way now)

bad liao still can play offline game rite?

yeah you can, just that no more achievement. need to start new game since the old save game is gone? u had to play game from disc now, dvdrom spinning none stop = heat = easy to get 3rod.

hahaha..If got new hot titles coming out..U just take out the internet cable..hahaa..lol

if u worry too much, just buy a PS3, save all the hassle and your money in long run

//flame shield equipped and activated//

This post has been edited by dattebayo: Dec 10 2009, 12:16 AM

if u worry too much, just buy a PC, save all the hassle and your money in long run cool2.gif

//flame shield equipped and activated//

if you worry too much, just don't play video games, save all the hassle and your money in the long run

//flame shield equipped and activated//

haha, just kidding . Seriously, if you've chosen to mod then you should accept it if you get banned. Fair and square.

This post has been edited by heavendevil: Dec 10 2009, 01:32 AM

er i think u still dont understand, u can take out yr internet cable b4 the ban wave comes, but after the ban wave u still cant connect back to Live!, thats bcoz the moment u connect back u get banned?

its like a blacklist of a group of modded xbox serial number.

the problem is u dont know when is the ban wave coming, u might survive this christmas u might not ? so its like lucky draw to plug in yr internet cable to find out if u are banned or not after christmas / new year?

This post has been edited by IccyAsd: Dec 10 2009, 09:40 AM

So..when the next ban wave come?

Why don't you send an email Microsoft and ask them?

the solution buy unmodded 360 from gamers solution heheheh

hahaha..Microsoft would reply ...damn u...ahaha

Might & might not.....

You can't blame them, In fact, they can blame you for stealing their hard earned money (as they created these games by their man hours)

Might & might not, it's very random.

i hadn't go online since 30th nov. heheh

rite now I went online my halo 3..now seems to be ok...already update the game "ORi one"... hmm..please microsoft... u doing my old xbox360 3 times rrod..now u want to ban me...not fair..enough..

i tried to recover gamertag

it ask about my old gamertag,email and pass

but after i submit,it says no xbox live registration something like that.
already tried twice

It would seems ok until you hitted by banhammer...as I said, the vital stats might be slightly altered and nothing about the original disc...You've been warned......


Well, did you registered your name on LIVE in the 1st place?

i already registered live on my old 3rod xbox ,,

did i need to register again ??

yr old xbox360 3 times rrod isnt as bad as some of us here its already on our 3-5th console? nothing is fair in this world.

This thread is getting more and more ridiculous.. it's like complaining why capital punishment is laid on drug traffickers? It's so unfair! Well some people still do it despite knowing the consequences..

Human always fighting and complaining

lol. some ppl are delusional that's why. i like your analogy coz its funneh. either its they dunno any better in the first place or they are just plain retarded.

Should not need to. why don't u jsut drop an email to xbox customer service????

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Added on December 11, 2009, 3:20 pmWell somehow I think this thread is very good on educating people on the importance of not getting a modded console.

It's not like some newbies that dunno anything and just come in and ask for help on their RM8 copy. Frankly these people do not deserve for free help.

This post has been edited by navigator: Dec 11 2009, 03:20 PM

i really believe the onus is on every party involved.

first of all as a consumer you should at least do a bit of research or ask a knowledgeable friend before making a purchase. it's basic common sense. if you didn't, i honestly think you deserved everything that came to you. besides, google and the internet is only just a few clicks away.

secondly, retailers should also be more knowledgeable about stuff they are selling. unfortunately, most retailers in malaysia cant be bothered educating consumers about the pros and cons about anything. they are just interested in pushing stuff off the shelves as fast as they can. some claimed that they are the best game shop in town but they sell modded machines and pirated games. oh wow. that's like really helping the local gaming industry mature and evolve.

That's a one hail of a good word.

Have you tried logging in xbox.com from your PC. That's be a good way to validate that your accounts still exist.

Regarding safe to go online or not. The word is, microsoft likes to do sweeps, so if you modded before its probably flagged already and when the next sweep comes, you will be banned.

My advise, save you modded xbox for SP games and never go online on it ever. And buy an unmodded one for your online gaming. At least you can still use your modded xbox.

modded is very safe... seriously.. u won't kena ban one.. even tho u made effort putting in ORIGINAL game on modded console... you're good to go!

all hail the maker!

SP is what ?

i don;t wnt to play online ..its just i want my achivement.

my old xbox got 3rod thats why.

and i already login at xbox .com via my pc this week.

can login,but at xbox..dunno why.

I'm putting this here to provide people with a way to recover their profiles.

Recover Profile

No way am I advocating piracy or modded consoles. If the mods find this not suitable then just delete my post. thanks.

my gamertag,profile,gamesave is not corrupt,and my xbox is not been banned

its just i want to transfer all the files on the 20gb hdd to the 120gb hdd.
and achievement also

is there any other way beside than transfer hdd to pc ??and other way beside buying m.card

I've stated on another thread that you can use a software called Xplorer 360 Extreme 2 and copy the "content" folder from partition 3 & make image & transfer partition 2 to new HDD or you'll lose xbox emulator.

Please google for the software for more information. The procedure is not easy as the file system used is not native file system to windows and nothing you can see in there is understandable to people used to Windows.

ok sorry.thanks.

another reason why I think piracy is still big in our region for the xbox 360 is because we also have a bunch of smart a$$es like the above . Come in throw some sarcastic remark and leave , way to go for the xbox community !

Many people playing original games in here feel like they are high and mighty , not forgetting where they came from .

What good can sarcastic remarks bring ?

Not doing any good in bringing these people to the genuine side of the fence are you .

This post has been edited by gavind87: Dec 12 2009, 02:03 PM

This kinda people feels proud whenever they do not need to fork out cash for their "purchase". I've seen that a lot.

at the same time, some people felt they're proud for able to fork out a lil bit extra for a thing. I've seen this more than a lot.

It back how these people are thought and how they remember their past.

and all these people usually did not read properly on their T&C before signing up, coz they did not respect the forum, follow the rule, and like to strip bare and expose their shortsightness to the world thru a public forum like here!

This post has been edited by navigator: Dec 13 2009, 07:55 AM

yeah..we know...the pirate dvd is a damn cheaper..cheaper than ori... only Rm 10 comparing the ori Rm 160 above.. so the reason one to get ori is to play online and downloading so many stuff..

so for me..I rather buy ori with including online features...

futhermore.. others people like downloading from torrents avoid to spend extra cash... hacking other games...cracking...

So ..I prefer buying original.. coz.. I got money to buy it...

I don't care people wants a pirate or ori..its their choice...

hmm..normally how long does it take 4 shop 2 upgrade firmware?

Please do not mistake this as a thread teaching or recommending modding .

after reading for 4 pages i can guess it is save to update from the disc right?

Newbies, for your information this thread is not about illegally modded console's technical session. LYN do not allow such talk. Please go elsewhere to ask such thing.

Original unmodded console need only to go online or click here for offline update.

This post has been edited by navigator: Dec 14 2009, 10:01 AM

thx

so this mean i can update from the disc safely thx navigator..... cuz i have modded console that i buy from a friend.....

Sorry, you got me wrong, if your console is flagged then once you did offline update you'll get the banned version of software update and you know what i mean for the rest.

Unless your console never been online then it's different story.

and dude, don't mention your system is modded or not over here unless you know what you want to ask like what TS did. "modded" is a very sensitive word over LYN.

This post has been edited by navigator: Dec 14 2009, 10:32 AM

Sorry i didnt mean that....but he say he never online cuz the one he sold to me is his birthday present so never really played this one cuz he already has one so what u trying to say is it is safe to update using the game disc if the console is never online right?

You had been answered, so I would not going to repeat myself on that...

Please stop the "modded update without getting ban" discussion stuff. That's prohibited around LYN.

seriously sometimes i dont know what ppl are thinking, u knew that u bought a modded console, u wanted to do an update then u are affraid this & that. if u are affraid then dont do it? stop being an original wannabe.

if u really want original then go for original save yr time/problem. there is plenty of 2nd games over pasarmalam post, its very cheap most of them, if buying games is yr concern.

dude, chill the eff out. it's just a joke. that was uncalled for. if i'm a smart a$$, then u're what? a dumba$$? i personally don't have anything against the modded or the oris. are you new to this forum? have u not seen since the past 3 years, these whining and complaining threads are created on weekly basis about i'm too scared sheet balls to go online. blah blah. you know. the rules are set, follow them. and when u don't, it's ur choice of burden u have to go thru.

and imagine seeing this for 3 years... same questions asked, same answers given, mod did their job, and more newcomers making same threads. they know whats coming for their modded consoles yet, they asked same questions. oh, the uncertainty. mod don't like it, newcomers crave it. the oris are proud of their purchase, as claim by ur bff. the pirates hate the oris and the list goes on. the point is, threads are mean for constructive talks, not mindless bashes. you know it's a sensitive issue, yet you talk about it.

oh, and what good does sarcastic remarks bring? it's adds flavor to the drama. for instance, like this one. it fires u up, innit mate?

i mean no harm. but all of these are pointless.

This post has been edited by huss_wuss: Dec 15 2009, 11:39 AM

Just add more flavor to the drama: The one with more Gamerscore *available online* are more persuasive.

*flee from scene/Cabut Lari*

This post has been edited by navigator: Dec 15 2009, 02:43 PM

ok...enough all of u..if u guys want fighting all thats craps stuff..come into my lobby..fight me streets fighters 4..hahaha

so, bro and sis..back to the topic now..

izzit safe to go online now??

for modded console...thanks...

Of course

it's a yes & no question.
Yes you can, Until the next ban wave.
No you can't, microsoft will constantly read your console vital stats & flag your console to become a victim of next banwave.

No one knows when will a ban wave come, so far the only hint is when a very very big title launched.

This post has been edited by navigator: Jan 8 2010, 02:17 PM

u sure navigator and gundamalpha??

pls dont con me, k?? im a noob here...

err how do u con some 1 when there is no $ involve? :

Guaranteed can, I've been onlining like no other people's business

There are millions of players claiming they can go online safely, but on the other hand, there are also millions of players got their console banned. So as long as you go online, there will be a chance you'll get booted, but how big/small the chance is? God knows.

I already told you it's a yes & no game for this.

If you do not like the answer, sigh away and try your luck then



This post has been edited by navigator: Jan 8 2010, 03:30 PM

okok..navigator..thanks alot..

as for gundaphalma...is yr console modded??

play safe , stay off

Sadly, too many modded console out there in Malaysia and sadly, to Malaysian, gaming is not a big business.

That might be one of the reason why XBOX LIVE is not here...(but XBOX LIVE 2nd line support is here~~~~~ )

dont worry it will eventually happen when MS send out more ban wave that could brick a console , then the user would either choose from ps3/360 unmodded.

i have seen alot ppl go original because of that.

Once modded, I cannot update my console or download new patches right?

If I do connect to the internet, chances are my console will be banned by MS

it seems like there is more & more new modded user coming in day by day asking question than an original

This post has been edited by IccyAsd: Jan 10 2010, 09:06 AM

There is no point getting mad. They should have did a proper research before buying the xbox.

For those modded, no it's never safe to go online. No matter how many time the firmware updates and keeps getting better, you can't outsmart MS. They invented it and they know how to find you.

So for universal answer, you always on the risk of getting ban. When you will get ban, nobody knows except for MS and god. If you want a better answer, try to google Xbox Scene.

Lastly, this forum doesn't support modded consoles and pirarcy. This is because our community are trying to move and support the gaming industries. And TS, please lock off the topic to avoid anymore flames.

This post has been edited by MmxZero: Jan 10 2010, 11:23 AM