Citydude.

I think u have more negative than positive.

U don't trust even your relative. worry money loss?

Get someone to live with you dude. when u r sick at least this person can buy u some milk or bread.

Why are we in this world?

We are here for each other la.

totally agree with you, how can a normal person left his family behind and live alone LOL

All in the sudden he said he enjoy MF pulak wahahahaha

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Added on July 18, 2012, 11:12 pm so u fall in love in MF again but will dump MF in no time again. Do u book a place at T Ratana for your future

This post has been edited by natman: Jul 18 2012, 11:12 PM

Since when that IF we don't trust relatives means we are negative ?
That has nothing to do with money loss.

It's my choice.
Yr reasons why you are in this world may be different than me and that is your choice .
I too got my own reasons why I trust or not trust
Relatives and why I stay alone at a condo.

Tq for yr concern

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Added on July 19, 2012, 12:49 amI may not like the daily drive up the car park tiers but I am fair to say the roof park MF got nice recreation offers for residents etc

That's not about falling in love with MF . It's a view point for MF that it has this benefit.
And when I complete my contract rental, I have option to stay or leave MF .

Telling readers that MF is close to other charity places like T Ratana is not a reason for others to recommend me a place there which I must say is a plus karma if I am destined to arrive there as resident .

For yr info, I did not left my family behind and stay at MF.
My family members have all passed.
I do wish they are still alive.








This post has been edited by Citydude: Jul 19 2012, 12:49 AM

Citydude, forgive me, you are single and always have been?

I think kopitiam is interesting

Actually I don't understand la...
Complaining multi-tier Carpark is MF sucks but Gembira Condo also having multi-tier Carpark rite?
Then complaining the price too high but compare to Gembira Condo price but Gembira Condo is still under construction u wait after completion people will be asking about 700k above for the smallest unit...that's always the case. When u buy from developer it's usually lower la...primary purchasers risk the possibilities of abandon project from small developer while having to service their loan during construction for those not offering DIBS package. If u buy a completed property of kos will be higher la...

And how can happy garden be a high end area? I am staying at Bukit Gembira Condo now....and no way it's high end area...
Behind Gembira Condo it's low cost apartments with a huge futsal court....in front of Gembira Condo are all the old one storey landed properties. further down the road there is a school...traffic on the way in and out horrible and won't help with all the new condo completing soon also....very high end meh?

the whole neighborhood is not "high class" area but i think in term of amenities i would said OKR have it all...

i do agree with u the expected price of GR once completed..to hv 20-30% appreciation of your property upon completion based on present crazed for property is logic....


just hope there are more roads built coz look like a narrow road to the project

Ok so meaning all the while you are a lone ranger, u dont have wifes and kids at this age. I have friends like you buy younger usuallly their mind sets thinks differently and is always negative.

HOnestly i have never see you post anythign good about MF and this is your first i think, no ?

Just to refresh your memory about cons (u live in MF),
Surounding low class.
Lots of bangla and indo around
Behind the factory operates 24 hrs and have to watch out the forlift they are driving fast
No unifi and Hd tv
maintatinance fees high
Leasehold
multi tier carpark
not senior friendly carpark
Agent selling high price
no schools and less shops
recycle factory front and back
etc etc etc la

Pro is the one and only roof top park LOL

GR u have not stay there and whole lots of pro's !!!!!

I do not owned a unit there but i do think this place is quite strategic to travel around kl, pj mid valley.
I stay in tmn salak south also low class area too

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Added on July 20, 2012, 8:31 amhigh class or not mont kiara also has lots of kampung house, bangsar south is upcoming lots of low cost flats also, dutamas area too lots of road side mamak stall along the road so can say is low class area ?

I hope your MF give u a good return.


This post has been edited by natman: Jul 20 2012, 08:31 AM

"the whole neighborhood is not "high class" area but i think in term of amenities i would said OKR have it all...

i do agree with u the expected price of GR once completed..to hv 20-30% appreciation of your property upon completion based on present crazed for property is logic...."


Yea I mean that is what to be expected la...

Hi CityDude,
Firstly you want to buy a completed property but want to get it as cheap as possible.

Simple comparison :-

Midfields (Subsale)
1074 sqft ~ RM 430k = RM 400 psf
1074 sqft ~ RM 450k = RM 418 psf
1074 sqft ~ RM 480k = RM 446 psf

Gembira Residence (Current)
TYPE : C -1,168sf (3R,2B)~ RM 493k-540k = Avg RM 450 psf

Based on psf also show Midfields is cheaper...and it's completed or nearing completion as compared to GR.
So how issit expensive and GR is cheaper?
GR is still undergoing construction, primary purchaser still servicing their loans, quality of built still unsure, got delay or not still dunno, maintainence after that also not sure....
And once completed you think people will sell it back to you at 493k-540k meh?
Same wat everyone will also start asking at least 700k...

And secondly, u kept on complaining agents asking unrealistic pricing...
So what's is yur realistic pricing?
I am really curious la....do u expect the owners to sell you their unit at 350k?

Its very good that i have someone to keep tract of every word and sentence that i post here.

word by word, post by post, sentence by sentence.

The so call " negatives" are my observations of what is outside the nearby township. what is seen and happening.

The POSITIVES of MF are INSIDE THE CONDO GROUNDS.
The POSITIVES may include good polite security guards, good lighting for the grounds, nice trees, and airy halls.

GR was mentioned because, i have decided to buy there, after evaluating both places. The reasons may be personal, economic or access, or value.
When buying a property, it is very normal and logical to compare two or three places. There is no wrong.

I dont recall that i boast GR is better than which condo. I only stated FACTS such as, i decide to buy GR because it is FREEHOLD.

Parking allocation for ANY CONDO residents is based on developer allocation. Sometimes, if lucky, the owner is given lower floors, or higher floors. Its very normal for those given higher floors, to frus about the daily driving up and down car parks. While, those lucky ones, who got just 1st or 2nd floors car park, are happy driving about the car park.

My MF neighbour is allocated at 8th floor, so, he just park at 1ST floor for the mean time, before Block B/Block C is ready. He told me, he frus driving up the car park. So, i guess, he is NEGATIVE too if i based on others judgement.


But i think he is just being human, and say what comes in his mind. But, he still lives around.
Well, he is the owner and i am only a tenant.
I told him, its just a daily frus at car park, but think of the greens and security, then, be happy la....
Above all, its none of my business to judge his negative or why he is also staying alone. or recommend him to try monkshood, since he is alone and without family.

I respect his discussion and allow him to voice his views. Its his own facts and his situation.

Might not be the same situation as experienced by me, or by other owners or other tenants.

Thats the beauty of free views. Not to enforce my beliefs and what i think.

I told my neighbour that when i move over to GR, i will tell him, what is going on inside and outside. May be good or bad, or better or worse. That narrow road Senang Ria, is the current access road to all the other condo. Maybe, in 2015, there are more roads, and my fear may be relieved.
That's in 2013. When 2015, it is due to more good points and bad points to evaluate that any JMB or Condo Mgt will hear to improve. Nothing is static. And nothing is fixed.

People too. We move and learn each every morning.
Same like traffic. Some jam roads are getting better.
Some jam road are always bad.

I maybe wrong.

This post has been edited by Citydude: Jul 20 2012, 11:35 AM

I think direct competition is between mf and gr base on pficing and land status gr is freehold, developer still has some unsold units just maybe citydude wanna promote gr kua

in the end if its for own stay, where you buy for your own stay will be based on individual circumstances esp relating to location and financial standing so right for someone maybe wrong for another..

for me personally if i have no immediate family and all, leasehold status will not be a big issue for me - it will be like a nice to have factor - other considerations like affordable entry price would take first precedent. Secondary would be location and its proximity to health care, and amenities.

[quote=Ganny82,Jul 20 2012, 11:00 AM]
"the whole neighborhood is not "high class" area but i think in term of amenities i would said OKR have it all...

i do agree with u the expected price of GR once completed..to hv 20-30% appreciation of your property upon completion based on present crazed for property is logic...."
Yea I mean that is what to be expected la...

Hi CityDude,
Firstly you want to buy a completed property but want to get it as cheap as possible.

Simple comparison :-

Midfields (Subsale)
1074 sqft ~ RM 430k = RM 400 psf
1074 sqft ~ RM 450k = RM 418 psf
1074 sqft ~ RM 480k = RM 446 psf

Gembira Residence (Current)
TYPE : C -1,168sf (3R,2B)~ RM 493k-540k = Avg RM 450 psf

Based on psf also show Midfields is cheaper...and it's completed or nearing completion as compared to GR.
So how issit expensive and GR is cheaper?
GR is still undergoing construction, primary purchaser still servicing their loans, quality of built still unsure, got delay or not still dunno, maintainence after that also not sure....
And once completed you think people will sell it back to you at 493k-540k meh?
Same wat everyone will also start asking at least 700k...

And secondly, u kept on complaining agents asking unrealistic pricing...
So what's is yur realistic pricing?
I am really curious la....do u expect the owners to sell you their unit at 350k?


Mr Ganny82

I did not say GR is much cheaper than MF. How can it be?
Its launch price is already so much higher. I said its Freehold. its a fact! Whether its turn out to be a super or good buy there, only time will tell.

Well, i am expecting a lower price, only i buy. If it is not, its ok. I am not the Market enforcer.
I am a prospect who is interested to buy. if the price is NOT RIGHT, its ok. No heart feelings.

So, the point is i am only willing to buy at a certain price. If the price is OUT of my intended Budget, its ok.. let others buy.

Hope you get the picture right.
YOU are curious. Well, ask the Agents. I am no expert in Selling properties. I am only a prospect who quote a price i want to pay, and if the seller don't want, its a democratic world. As buyer, i always hope to get a good deal. As a seller, its up to him to sell.
Its my problem. Not anyone.

I GOT MANY CLICKS to my personal inbox, telling me, THEY FELT the quoted price VERY HIGH. I only advice, that they try to discuss further with Agents or Owner, to get the deal. ITS THEIR OWN DEALS. I wish them all the best!.. never to stop anyone.

Well, i may not know whether the price will be 350K or never... but a direct seller ask me at 410K for a high floor. so, he said he quoted as a direct deal.
If I find the price is OK, i will contact him. If i don't find the price right, i will hold my decision.
And if the price goes higher and higher.. then, i can only say, i miss the boat.

Its ok.. nothing to be so uptight about. Just a Condo or house. Bricks and Mortar.

This post has been edited by Citydude: Jul 20 2012, 01:00 PM

I did call up to GR before units left are priced above 500k ?
I still remember you are saying world economy is slowing down and bla bla bla not worth buying house now and now u whack GR
So u decided not to pay rental and travel around the world anymore ? settle down and work to pay the killing monthly installment.

Ok good luck to u, cakap tak serupa bikin

Where did I whack GR? very creative words to pin me .

I said " whether it turn out super or good and only time will tell"
It's fair judgement. is that whacking?
I been hounded saying I whack this or that.
But if anyone with a calm and resolute mind, they will see that I am fair and not pious.

You are not a resident at MF and you think you know this place better than residents.
I hear you. I listen to your views.
But please don't keep pin point others views and get personal .

I respect your views and I expect respect too.
I don't enjoy being brand as Whacking others when I certainly HAVE NOT DONE so.

This post has been edited by Citydude: Jul 20 2012, 10:03 PM

It can be whack a unit or i cant use this word ? well im not so educated as u but sure i dont pusing like u hahaha. when u saying u rent house because world economy bla bla bla like no more tomorrow than how come suddenly u go buy an expensive condo ? u too old and forgot what u wrote ah

Im no residentat MF its true i did not say so i know this place well but u havent step in GR u already do so much reseach around it but why dont u do research arounf MF before moving in but after only u complaint so much ?

hi bro natman, at here property talk is a open space to view our thought in each property, and i have been reading through citydude post n others post silently.. but after seeing your post, is there anything citydude offended you? cause as far i read through his view and thought, is his personal right and is his right to share also. But reading your post , is seriously make no sense why u take it so personal ,wht citydude have to share, either he sincere or pusing pusing, is not your out most concern too. If cityduede sharing for MF is good and +ve we can use it as a guide , if it doesn't suit us, we can make our own decision base on our current situation.

please keep this forum as a place to share view and respect each others decision and right, no point going on n on pin point at 1 personal view and didnt look out of the box. Well all of us who invest in property we would like to know what is happening. Peace bro natman.

nothing to do to with me only for fun but people like him can be giving false info and bad image of a property, no ?

im small potato only and here to learn about property but really behtahan him turning around so comment a bit lo, still did not shoot him kau kau what.



This post has been edited by natman: Jul 20 2012, 11:45 PM

Hey bro Natman,

Chill yea....I have been following the thread for a while so I understand where you are getting at...
On a lighter note everyone go watch the dark knight rises...it's really good.

sorry lo not die hard fanzi but its fun seeing this fan shu (ubi) turn about so i just add some oil and fire deep fry it only
So LYN FANZI will take note of this fan shu words.

I am still learning about property, good or bad also have to read but his one really caught my attention so i got more question for his words because im new and still learning ! In fact i just asking him question i dont see anything is wrong i hope.

From saying rather then pay rental due to high property price and world and malaysia economy is bad and suddenly buy an expensive condo above 500k, maybe he could share some good news whole world is booming in next few years ?

Back to the topic, just wondered if he ever study MF area before paying a rental of 1600 ? because complaint of low class surrounding and etc etc which he could already see it from outside MF thats the fact nothign is hidden, its childish to shout in LYN the CON's only ! The pros is only roof top garden LOL pity YTL Hahahaha......

About GR wah nothing is bad even the condo is still under con and have not step inside it and he only tell the PRO's !!! but the CON's is not being mentioned at all Low cost flats, narrow road to the site, surau behind etc etc .

Have a nice weekend


Cheers !


This post has been edited by natman: Jul 21 2012, 09:33 AM