Youngsters are not going to win us anything, take a close look at our London neighbours and you'll get proof of that. At the end of the day, what matters more? Development, or titles? Of course, youth development is important to unearth potential JTs, but for every JT, there will be a Jody Morris, Carlton Cole, etc.

A bunch of youngsters will not win us anything, nor will it necessarily result in stylish football. Looking at the way the club is ran now, I don't think this will be the road for the future as well. Time to take your heads out of the sky and start accepting the team as it is, bunch of seasoned pros capable of producing results week-in, week-out;

Cech - Seasoned pro from Rennes
Iva, Ricky, A Cole, Nic, Lamps, Deco, Malouda - All are already fully capped by national teams
Ballack, Essien, DD - Capts of national teams

Get used to the fact that the likes of Borini, Stoch, Kakuta, etc will start a few games at most per season, and unless they get really stuck in like JT when he was a youngster, none of them will be good enough for the 1st team. Sure, flashes of brilliance every now and then, but they need to do it week-in, week-out.

hmmm. im not saying that they should get appearances week in week out but i do think we can give them chances to play in the carling and fa cup. yes, arsenal are the best at producing young talent and they even field them in prem games. why? because they do not have a squad full of seasoned players. the likes of kakuta and borini should get starts in fa and carling cups more often while we pack our bench with match winners. this is something arsenal do not have. i think the approach should change and i do think its changing compared to the previous season. i do see the youngsters getting loaned and more cameos to play with the seniors.

if arsenal win tonite, they claim no 1 spot....
hmmmmm

top spot for playing extra game. no worries.
keep finger crossed

if they win 1-0, we're still on top by goal difference!

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Added on January 20, 2010, 10:34 pmlets hope bolton do us a favor

This post has been edited by madfag: Jan 20 2010, 10:34 PM

yap agreed with madfag...

we already loaned most of our talented youngsters...some of them already return to the reserves...and some of them have the full season loan...

the points is this is FA...yes it is important but we must field the youngster because..

Sturridge - to rest Anelka, I dont want anything happen to him this January...

Matic - Deco,Ballack,Beletti..all of them 30+ so..need rest dude...and Matic excel in the reserves game...

Kakuta - He must prove something...We got banned for his talent...

Bruma - Need exposure cuz Ricky era is coming to the end with his age..

i believe what aw13 trying to emphasize is about consistencies of the youngsters to do their magic week in, week out, in order to get first team chances. firgive me if i'm wrong in interpreting your post.

this is really true in the current world of football which is soo demanding. in order to culture the consistencies of the youngsters (as said by aw13), the youngster must be exposed to 'true' games like carling cup and fa cup (as said by madfag). youngsters used to play in the reserve squad where i believe the competition (within the reserve squad, and between teams) is not that strong as compared to the real football world. that's why at least in certain occasion, the must be exposed to epl matches so they can have a taste on what real football is (the robustness, accumulation of fatigue, fans pressure, atmosphere, etc)

so, its all depend on ancelotti to determine how much exposure our youngster can have. without enough exposure, their magic will fade away. furthermore, we need to remember that nowdays the MASS MEDIA also play important part in the development of youngsters. they usually come up with stupid stories to unsettle the youngster and managers must know how to divert the media attention from the young player. one manager that excel at this is without doubt JM. he create strories of his own, about his own life and thus the media more interested in him rather than the players hehe

we got to be fully FOCUSED on comin matches; cuz the gunners starting to show they are capable of gunning for top spot so does manu...its a 3 horse RACE now..

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Added on January 21, 2010, 10:39 amfor me wenger is the best coach in the world in training youngsters to excel!

This post has been edited by krk24: Jan 21 2010, 10:39 AM

bolton did not do us any favor.

looks like if you want something done, you've got to do it yourself. if im not mistaken, we're going to face arsenal again very soon and we must take an added 3 point lead from that game.

its definitely a 3 horse race now. you can never count united out of the race any part of the season. arsenal has the consistent wins and are right on our tail. we cannot afford to lose.

UP THE CHELS!

i believe nex 3 out of 4games is curcial to arsenal, aston villa first then mu then chelsea, these 3 matches is a decider to arsenal

Aston win,mu draw, Chelsea win..hehehhe...hopefully...

yup there's certainly 2 sides of the youngster blooding department. you've got to give them exposure to the real deal, but at the same time an overdose of that can certainly bring them crashing back down to reality, and some might not recover from then on. ancelotti has put emphasis on our youth more than our previous 4 coaches and that's certainly something to shout about. it bodes well for his and chelsea's long term future. cameos in the league/UCL plus appearances in the FA cup will do just fine. and before u guys hit the high notes in singing wenger's praises regarding youth development, keep in mind he's been under absolutely zero pressure to win trophies with arsenal for some time now, and their barren run bears testimony to that. its easy to field a team of teenagers when the people at the top don't expect much from you, so as long as they can line their pockets. would roman tolerate that? in an alternate dimension maybe. i think this highlights the point aw13 was trying to put forth earlier. wenger's every chairman's dream when it comes to budgets, but ultimately their fans will suffer.

This post has been edited by Kerplunk: Jan 21 2010, 01:22 PM

Precisely. CA has been emphasising youth, and that is good. However, for him to start them consistently, not this season la (or at least until tail-end of season).

Arsenal on top looks to be a temp factor, unless their youthful team bucks up and toughens up. Not enough seasoned pros there that can take the pressure, you can see some of them are beginning to disappear, esp the likes of Eduardo, Denilson, etc (i.e. not performing consistently). Only Gallas, Fabregas, Vermaelen and Arshavin looks to be propping the team up, absence for any one of them could derail their title ambitions.

Arsenal got back to be on top was mainly due to us under-performing prior to Sunderland's game. As long as we can keep the Sunderland performance up, I don't see any reason for us not to claim the title this year.

at the stage where everybody are racing below our neck, we can't let youngsters to fit in at what we got so far. at least not this time. it's curcial. manu is a point away. arsenal is chasing in, man city ambitious hunger for glory as well... we must collect every possibility and traces into our account. for me it's not the time for us to test out the youngsters. let them have it during the pre season match later



This post has been edited by shah_ho_nam2: Jan 21 2010, 04:37 PM

Canales Rumors..

http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-arti...-Canales-/5173/

Come to Chelsea..train in the reserves and ready urself to take the place of our 30+ midfielder...and as the long term apprentice for Lamp !

You guys all....aiiihh....Listen...like it or not..the oldies will surely have to retire one day and who's gonna pick up the baton from Lamps, JT, ballack, essien, etc ...none other than the younger ones like joe cole, kakuta, borini, etc...

Somehow all the oldies will retire one day whether u like it or not...In a squad, you must have a balance of both world such as young and old. When I say old means not so old which is the experience and the young ones. The succession plan suppose to be the experience ones such as Lamps, deco, ballack training and passing the skills to the younger ones for the club to excell and if that is being done properly and executed properly, I believe we can see Chelsea as a strong team for the next decade and forever.

Its all about passing on the skills and tallents on what you have plus playing on the pitch with experience. Chelsea will fall if all senior players just leave the young ones to learn on their own and die on thier own.

Again then it all comes to the attitude of the young ones as well whether are they willing to learn and stay for a better chelsea...its a circle...

Congratulations to Terry for being voted into UEFA Team of the Year 2009.


This post has been edited by gothmy: Jan 21 2010, 09:46 PM

yeah rockhopper i understand what you're saying, but at the moment the biggest stage we can provide the youngsters is in the league/UCL for some cameos when the game is safe, and perhaps full appearances in the FA cup such as this weekend against preston. although personally i think extra attention should be paid to gael kakuta, as i envision him taking deco/malouda's place in the very near future. saw his goal vs wolves in the reserves?an absolute beauty. he's probably the most likely player i'd gamble on to change an outcome of a match. as for the others like matic, di santo, borini, studge, bruma, cork, stoch, they need to be patient as the competition in front of them is on another level. the strikers can be a tad more hopeful though, as our golden pair are reaching the latter end of their careers.

hopefully a couple of those mentioned above get to start this saturday. carefree!

its not a bad thing we lost the top spot for awhile, it is the first time since 24th Oct. we just have to maintain our superb form, and our winning mentality. apart from that, our boys scored 12 goals in our last game, which is astonishing. we're not playing our game yet, but i optimistic.

Chelsea

Birmingham City (H)
Burnley (A)
Hull City (A)
Arsenal (H)

Arsenal

Villa (A)
ManU (H)
Chels (A)
Liverpool (H)

Lets see what happen next. Up The CHELS!

p/s : congratulations John, Captain, Leader, Legend.

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Added on January 22, 2010, 8:52 amtrue that, kerpy. i saw that too. nice goal eh

This post has been edited by Nabeyl: Jan 22 2010, 08:53 AM

but if they dont have the patient then they will leave..it is important to give them the amount of game that suit their level...as for matic and stoch they already play for the national team...so to secure their place in the national team then..he must play the 1st team...Bruma also back by some of the dutch coach to get into the squad for World Cup...they have future...and they have ambition...think about that...