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danmooncake
post Mar 11 2010, 10:11 PM

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G'evening folks,

Initial jobless claims came in 462K.. just about the same as what's expected: 460K.
Overnight, data from China points to inflation - that's going to push some equities down today because of
fears of imminent rates hike.










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post Mar 11 2010, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(syong @ Mar 11 2010, 10:25 PM)
so, time to standby bullets?
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Yes.. wait and be patient. Let it come to you. laugh.gif

Infact, I was hoping the data came in much better that it can surge up
so that I can short more. biggrin.gif


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post Mar 12 2010, 03:18 AM

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Covered my SCOK shorts at 32.15. 15% profit. smile.gif

IMO, The bears are actually also weak. I was hoping for more pull back,
but we hardly touch 10500 and now we recovered 70+ points.

I believe the market wants to see its January high target no matter.

As for C - wow! rclxms.gif
What can I say, this thing just keep going ain't it?
Now that it has reach 4.15, I am in agreement with wildthings73, it may want to see 4.30 later.
The charts are showing all bullishness, strength, volume but RSI already reached 81.

But, I've pulled the "trim the top" trigger now at 4.15 'coz I don't want to be greedy.
I'm reducing my shares back to core position and let the rest ride. I've up my stop to 3.8.

Some of you have asked me what does "trim the top" means?

Well, simple: whenever a long equity that I've accumulated has raised in value over more than a certain amount
of value or certain percentage, I will reduce that amount back to the core position.

In this case, C has increased almost 17% from my avg price of 3.55, now approx $2600 in excess
of my principle investment, so I just trimmed off that portion and keep the rest as my core. If C drops in value or below my avg buy in price by a certain percentage, I will buy again to accumulate and wait for it rise again to my core position.

There is no fix rule on the percentage or when to buy again to average down (during bear cycle). I normally watch the price channel and spread from my last average. For C, last time, a spread between 25cents and 50cents would be good enough and over 50cents or 15% or higher -> time to take profits or "trim the top"..

Hopefully this make sense.
Everyone may have different trading ideas but feel free to share your ideas or comments. biggrin.gif

Closing update:
Dow 10611.84 +44.51 +0.42%
Nasdaq 2368.46 +9.51 +0.40%
S&P 500 1150.24 +4.63 +0.40%

The S&P has reached its target of reaching Jan high. Dow is still lagging behind but not too far away.

C got jacked up to high 4.18 now.. nice close! rclxms.gif
Up'ed my stop to 4.0 now.

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post Mar 12 2010, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(miuk @ Mar 12 2010, 08:07 AM)
Great move on SCOK. after hours trading dropped further to 28. 16% drop in a single day.
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That is a POS stock. Not worth anything. Being "goreng" like crazy.
Anyway, quick money made and I'm happy. tongue.gif

Tonight, I have a feeling that the big boys are going to make their move.
They're going to tear this market down like in early Jan and make money on the way down.

So, be very cautious and have your stops in place.

Good luck 'all and have a good day. I'll be check'in tonight again. laugh.gif


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post Mar 12 2010, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Mar 12 2010, 03:29 PM)
Wow, C = 4.20, its the best popular BIG BOYS stock, from low 3.20 on FEB 12 and today 4.20.

32% movement for mega stock with billion of share trading a day is not easy. Like KNM in KLSE, not easy to move, because of huge BID/ASK Q.
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I think it is going to 4.3, it hasn't flat out or pivot yet. Are u still holding on your C shares? wink.gif
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Mar 12 2010, 11:00 PM)
I buy C at 4.7.
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I'll be happy to unload my shares to you at 4.7. tongue.gif


Added on March 12, 2010, 11:09 pm
QUOTE(mH3nG @ Mar 12 2010, 10:52 PM)
So basically you're keeping your capital intact while taking your profits off the table once you hit your target?
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Yes..if the value of the stock has reached or exceeded my target, I'll just sell some off.

Your initial position: $5000
After 1 month, say it now it worth $6000
Just take off: $1000 worth off the table.



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post Mar 12 2010, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(sulifeisgreat @ Mar 12 2010, 11:13 PM)
resilient bull    cool2.gif  short el with cut loss at 65.5
must do my part, as a bear lover & assist in the 'sell higher, buy lower' concept  laugh.gif
isn't it nice to keep track of those 'buy high, sell higher concept stocks'; coz they r great candidates for shorting  drool.gif
who knows? maybe can lose in tis gamble  brows.gif
next week is options expiry & wil there be a big movement to shake out the 'call option buyers'? no idea, I watching the movie too  flex.gif

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I don't think the bulls can hold much longer. This market is pretty full now from over eating.
Even good data from consumer confidence and feb retail sales not pushing it higher.
I'm looking for at least a small pullback by next week. All we need is some scary news to push this down.
We don't have that yet. We need the Anti-PPT team to help. Maybe China will do it. Hopefully, they'll issue an "intent" to
raise rates or the US Fed signal "rates" hike soon. brows.gif


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QUOTE(Erroralot @ Mar 13 2010, 12:26 AM)
Hmm, I think the bull's are beginning to lose interest and the Bear's are getting ready to maul! LOL

C's having a pretty healthy pullback.

Mynewuser: Dont buy from Damoon, I'll sell mine to ya for 4.69 smile.gif
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Ok, I've lowered my ask price: 4.68. C'mon MyNewUser - you know you want my C shares badly. tongue.gif
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post Mar 13 2010, 06:20 AM

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Closing update
Dow 10624.69 +12.85 +0.12%
Nasdaq 2367.66 -0.80 -0.03%
S&P 500 1149.99 -0.25 -0.02%


Both S&P and NASQ now waiting for Dow to catch up.. tongue.gif
This market isn't going higher.. let see how hard it can fall next week. tongue.gif


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post Mar 15 2010, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Erroralot @ Mar 14 2010, 09:30 PM)
Am looking forward to this (9.30 pm!) and 'rock bottom fantasy' hopefully hahahaha!
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Not yet.. just wait for double digits pullback. Need more bad news to act as catalyst.
It will happen. Be patient.

We got China and US starting to throw gloves at each other over currency issue. Dollar is rising.
It won't be good for equities. Start looking at short position. nod.gif
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QUOTE(honglun @ Mar 15 2010, 10:12 PM)
There's one thing I notice that stocks tend to rise when the 20ema cross 50ema. I wonder how do you guys stock screen for such stock? And how do you exit?
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It depends. Are you looking at 20ema moving ABOVE 50ema or moving BELOW 50ema?
Is the current price above the 20ema, 50ema or in between?

I usually look RSI. If it is overbought.. time to sell. nod.gif


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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Mar 15 2010, 10:50 PM)
Oooh....starting to red...red more red more? shhhz......will it be a crash? TIger year de....
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No.. don't worry it won't crash. The Govt PPT won't let this happen. Just waiting for a small pullback.

By the way, are you looking at X ? I'm looking get some if it pulls back to 54.
This thing is strong and looking forward, it will be even stronger this year. nod.gif

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post Mar 15 2010, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Mar 15 2010, 11:08 PM)
wutss no crashhhh???? heheh....
ya woh.....kekeke
but i will wait below 50....or u think it wont go below that?
hmmm.....usually it can go down 20points be4 goin up the next level....28 - 45, 35 - 55, 45 - 65,........
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It could pullback below 50 but short of another major triple witching issues like Greece,China and Obama bashing stocks, I'm only seeing a pullback to 54/55 at most.


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QUOTE(honglun @ Mar 15 2010, 10:56 PM)
Sorry, if I wasn't clear before. What I meant was that the 20ema crosses and moves ABOVE 50ema, you will sell at RSI overbought territory? At what range of RSI you'll be looking at? 70 or 90 to indicate oversold?

2nd scenario, what if the current price is in between 20ema and 50ema? What would you do? Hold and wait?

3rd scenario, what if the 20ema crosses and move below 50ema? Would you sell immediately? Or short it?

Thanks for answering. It'd be nice to get some input from sifus around here, especially Dan!  notworthy.gif
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Aiya, I'm not a sifu.. there are plenty of sifus here who are much better than me. sweat.gif
After all these years, there is not a single day that I'm not learning from this crazy market and also humbled by it when it proves you wrong when it goes against you.

Yes, above RSI: 70 to 90 would indicate overbought condition. For example: look at C last week.

If the current price is between 20ema and 50ema, what's its trajectory? Upwards or downwards or sideways?
Is it at the top of bollinger band? middle? or at the bottom? If it is at top, time to take some off. If it is bottom, perhaps scale a position, if it is middle, perhaps wait and see.. what's the major indices doing? Sorry, there is no short answer, they are all "it depends" situation. wink.gif

IMO, charts are usually 63% right, or 33% wrong. I am only hoping they're 63% right at the time when I see them so I can use it to make money. biggrin.gif

Do you have an example of a stock that you are interested in to buy or sell?
Feel free post its chart and let us all study it here and post our thoughts on it. nod.gif


Added on March 15, 2010, 11:57 pm
QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Mar 15 2010, 11:37 PM)
u n me same fate woh  biggrin.gif
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zamans and mfrog: Are you guys long S?

I would be patient with S before adding any new position. It certainly look like it could pull back to at least 3.53.





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QUOTE(miuk @ Mar 16 2010, 12:44 AM)
Finally bear season starts, can start making money on my shorts.
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We're getting closer.. the technicals want to see it at least touch the all time high again before the flood gate opens. biggrin.gif

Closing update:
Dow 10642.38 +17.69 +0.17%
Nasdaq 2362.21 -5.45 -0.23%
S&P 500 1150.51 +0.52 +0.05



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QUOTE(Erroralot @ Mar 16 2010, 12:20 PM)
Dmc: What's your take on ERX, if it hits its 200 SMA which seems REALLY possible in the coming days, will u be entering a portion of your portfolio into it? smile.gif

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Yes, I would start a position if ERX drops to 200MA (around $35/36). I would expect Oil price to drop to $75. Oil @ $80 is kinda high. But, there are also words on the street that Oil may want to see $85 first. Crazy huh?


Added on March 16, 2010, 9:04 pm
QUOTE(Erroralot @ Mar 16 2010, 08:23 AM)
Cant wait mannn! hahaha.

Btw, what's you take on entering FXP soon?
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Short China? Dunno yet. I think I wait for FXP to drop below $8 or closer first. China is a wildcard.
One on hand, they're thinking of tightening, on the other hand, they thinking of continuing double digits growth.


Added on March 16, 2010, 9:15 pm
QUOTE(cloud9_lee @ Mar 16 2010, 08:36 PM)
my LVS still hanging on the air. not moving much. sad.gif
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Up or down? I think for tonight you may see it up.

Dow wants to revisit Jan high again, SPX and NAS wants to break new high and out of the trading range.


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post Mar 17 2010, 01:32 AM

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If C reach 4.22 again, I'll sell into the strength. biggrin.gif
I've picked up more yesterday at 3.85 dip after being stop out at $4 last Friday at close.

I'm seeing C price channel between: 3.75 and 4.25 (50 cents spread).

Anyone else seeing it?


Added on March 17, 2010, 1:45 am
QUOTE(honglun @ Mar 16 2010, 09:39 PM)
Dan,
Look at these two charts S n NVE.
For S, the 20ema is moving close to 50ema. Should I start a position at round after 3.59$?
As for NVE, 20ema is very close to 50ema. Should I too start a position after 11.60?
NVE seems to have an upward trajectory. As for S it seems it's heading down 50ema before probably moving up again?
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honglun: I'll do a quick comment on S.
S has pivoted at 3.86. Yes, it looks like 20ema is moving up to 50ema and only if they cross, I would buy into it. At that time your price may or may not be 3.59 - could be much lower. I like the price at 50MA 3.53 or lower which I think S is going to test this support price. Better put a stop at 3.50.

Good luck!

Closing update: 5:30am
Dow 10685.98 +43.83 +0.41%
Nasdaq 2378.01 +15.80 +0.67%
S&P 500 1159.46 +8.95 +0.78%

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URE has a nice breakout. A whopping 43% gain since Feb 10th. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Mar 17 2010, 07:04 PM)
So when to take profit?
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It is St.Patrick Day in US and Europe. Everything is green!
So sell some into this rally and take profit if you've not done so. biggrin.gif


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post Mar 17 2010, 10:08 PM

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Now, FUQI -> potential "goreng" for day traders for bounce trade.

C - nearing 4.2 again.. come 'mon. You can do it.

By the way, we have reached new highs today.. so if some of you don't lighten up or take some profits on your long holdings.. you may regret it by end of this week. nod.gif

Good luck!

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