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post Dec 20 2009, 04:08 AM

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I really confused with some fans that really like to flame on individual player especially Carrick. He's a goddamn midfielder, swallow it! Do u expect a midfielder playing in center back gonna be godlike??? The real problem is the whole team elite defenders are out with the nurses, so no point pinpointing at anyone. Ofcoz, we played really bad but its harsh just to blame on individual player. When he perform well as defender, everyone will praise him..when he's playing like today, each & every blame are on him, WTF??

If u can't accept a lost, don't watch football. If you expect each & every game gonna be a WIN with perfect performance, play the goddamn games! Just don't be a glory hunter, accept the ups & down of the team. We as fans can just rant, but everything is being set up by SAF, swallow that again. That guy knows more than anyone of us here, if you think the team are playing very bad football this season, he knows better. Just let that guy do his fcking job & stop ranting over some players that are playing out of his position.

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post Dec 20 2009, 05:01 AM

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QUOTE(deora @ Dec 20 2009, 04:43 AM)
hmmm..sir alex last time said our squad already 'strong' enuf..not need bring in any player...now those defenders injured..see how we cope..lol
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Does anyone knows what gonna happen? Ain't we have enough players? In defense itself we already have Rio, Vidic, Evans, Brown, Gary, Evra, O'Shea, Fabio, Rafael, De Laet. Bring in more 'strong' players would've just be a big headache when no one is out injured.

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it was a tactical mistake by the gaffer.. lets move on to next game.. we cant afford to lose anymore.. bring on hull city
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post Dec 20 2009, 07:15 AM

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We need to recall our defenders back from loan in January. Cathcart, Chester who else? Hope they are good enough. Otherwise, I think we need to buy defenders in Jan given the injury record of our defenders which are getting worst. doh.gif
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post Dec 20 2009, 07:19 AM

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QUOTE(whoopa @ Dec 20 2009, 04:01 AM)
MARK HUGHES GOT SACKED!!! ITS IN SOCCERNET
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post Dec 20 2009, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(eddy_87 @ Dec 20 2009, 06:01 AM)
Does anyone knows what gonna happen? Ain't we have enough players? In defense itself we already have Rio, Vidic, Evans, Brown, Gary, Evra, O'Shea, Fabio, Rafael, De Laet. Bring in more 'strong' players would've just be a big headache when no one is out injured.
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I rather SAF have a headache choosing then us vomitting blood because of super shaky defends tongue.gif

QUOTE(MyDevil @ Dec 20 2009, 08:15 AM)
We need to recall our defenders back from loan in January. Cathcart, Chester who else? Hope they are good enough. Otherwise, I think we need to buy defenders in Jan given the injury record of our defenders which are getting worst.  doh.gif
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I tot some players might be back by Christmas, netherlessly, if the rightful defenders dont return soon, we are in for some deep sh*ts.

QUOTE(maiffa71 @ Dec 20 2009, 08:19 AM)
Next in line......Raffa Banitez...ngeh!ngeh!
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Need 20m to sack him... Their owner wont want to take our this money.



Anyway, what if.. what if... what if next time Rooney,Berbatov,Owen,Welbeck,Macheda all injured at once shocking.gif The defend lineup so long also can injured all, imagine the 5 men lineup of striker. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Dec 20 2009, 08:52 AM)
I tot some players might be back by Christmas, netherlessly, if the rightful defenders dont return soon, we are in for some deep sh*ts.
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Gary is injury prone now. Rio and Brown too are fighting to be fit nowadays. Vidic and Evans seems to have some injury concerns this season. We need fit defenders.
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QUOTE(MyDevil @ Dec 20 2009, 10:08 AM)
Gary is injury prone now. Rio and Brown too are fighting to be fit nowadays. Vidic and Evans seems to have some injury concerns this season. We need fit defenders.
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ask SAF to send a scout to malaysia. Our U-23 team kept a clean sheet against Vietnam bruce.gif
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post Dec 20 2009, 09:16 AM

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I think many of us misses the good time of having Ronaldo in attack. However, all it takes is time before SAF find a replacement for him. I think judging from the table standing and players' signing, the result speaks for themselves. There are no more outstanding players in United except for Rio, Vidic, Rooney and Fletcher. Lets hope the younger batch will live up to the task ahead.

So far, I think SAF has fail to nail a single outstanding winger. Nani and Valencia is just normal. Too normal. If you ask me, I would say Nani look more like a winger than Valencia did. I rather switch off the TV when I see Valencia's way of dribbling. **At least Beckham has its trademark BENT IT.

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Dec 20 2009, 10:16 AM)
I think many of us misses the good time of having Ronaldo in attack. However, all it takes is time before SAF find a replacement for him. I think judging from the table standing and players' signing, the result speaks for themselves. There are no more outstanding players in United except for Rio, Vidic, Rooney and Fletcher. Lets hope the younger batch will live up to the task ahead.

So far, I think SAF has fail to nail a single outstanding winger. Nani and Valencia is just normal. Too normal. If you ask me, I would say Nani look more like a winger than Valencia did. I rather switch off the TV when I see Valencia's way of dribbling. **At least Beckham has its trademark BENT IT.
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it took SAF 2/3 years to fully pick out the potential of Ronaldo, so i guess we have to wait for 2 more years to enjoy 3 years champions in a row again tongue.gif
Rio,Vidic,Rooney and Fletcher? Wheres Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs? They might be on a verge of retirement but they are definately the type of player tat United needs to support the club from falling apart before SAF work out his magic to find talents in youngsters. And yes, i really miss Ronaldo. Everytime watch him in Real Madrid, his awesome freekick.. make me sad cry.gif

imo, valencia can archieve something closer to Ronaldo than Nani. And no, nani dont look like a winger anymore. If he was given a chance to play full 90 minutes on pitch, we would have to suffer 85 minutes of pure dribbles by Nani that results in losing possesion. If im not wrong, Ronaldo also plays like this. When he dribble, he will try his best to move into the penalty box and make attemps on goal sometimes, exactly what Nani is doing.
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Dec 20 2009, 09:16 AM)
I think many of us misses the good time of having Ronaldo in attack. However, all it takes is time before SAF find a replacement for him. I think judging from the table standing and players' signing, the result speaks for themselves. There are no more outstanding players in United except for Rio, Vidic, Rooney and Fletcher. Lets hope the younger batch will live up to the task ahead.

So far, I think SAF has fail to nail a single outstanding winger. Nani and Valencia is just normal. Too normal. If you ask me, I would say Nani look more like a winger than Valencia did. I rather switch off the TV when I see Valencia's way of dribbling. **At least Beckham has its trademark BENT IT.
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It should had been another way round. Valencia IS the traditional type of winger, very direct and will try to beat the opponent fullback.

Difficult day for depleted Reds

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Sir Alex Ferguson rued "a soft goal" and "a killer" strike in the aftermath of defeat at Fulham.

While the manager acknowledged the impact of United's ongoing injury crisis, he also felt aggrieved at the way the Reds gifted a breakthrough to the home side. Paul Scholes' uncharacteristic error enabled Danny Murphy to step forward and despatch a shot past Tomasz Kuszczak, who slipped in the process of trying to save it.

"We lost a terribly soft goal for the first one and that gave them a platform to build on," admitted Sir Alex on MUTV.

"It was important for them and it was a bad one for us. It was an uphill fight after that, and then the second goal right after half-time (scored by Bobby Zamora) killed the game. That was a killer for us. We didn't anticipate that."

Coming just seconds after the restart, Zamora's strike made it difficult to assess what Sir Alex might have said to his team at half-time in tactical terms. With United now trailing by two goals, the boss felt compelled to change his personnel - sending on Dimitar Berbatov and Fabio for midfielder Darron Gibson and the inexperienced Ritchie De Laet.

"When we went further behind, we had to change and go to a back four - with young Fabio at right-back, and Darren Fletcher and Michael Carrick at centre-backs - because we had to chase the game," Sir Alex reflected.

"The referee made a poor decision for the third goal (it came from a free-kick) but by then I think it was very difficult for us. We couldn’t get behind Fulham at all, they defended very well, they were organised.... it was a difficult day for us really."


http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=...&newsid=6644319

Defenders key to title bid

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Sir Alex admits life at United could be tough until the club’s defensive injury crisis eases.

The Reds slumped to a 3-0 defeat against Fulham on Saturday, with Sir Alex again forced to play midfielders in the heart of United’s backline.

Seven defenders were unavailable for selection at Craven Cottage – Rio Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidic, Jonny Evans, Gary Neville, Wes Brown, John O’Shea and Rafael are all sidelined – so Michael Carrick and Darren Fletcher reprised their central defensive roles. Alongside them was young Belgian defender Ritchie De Laet, making just his sixth appearance at senior level.

And although United’s makeshift defences have largely coped well in recent weeks, Saturday’s reshuffled backline struggled and United suffered a fifth league defeat of the season.

“I hope that loss doesn’t prove too damaging,” Sir Alex told MUTV afterwards. “In other words, I hope it doesn’t cost us the league.

“There was a fragility at the back today, but we couldn’t do anything about that. I have sympathy for my players because it’s difficult for midfielders to play as centre-backs and Ritchie De Laet’s only 20 years of age so he’s not yet got the experience you need for these type of matches.

“The players are feeling a little bit sorry for themselves at the moment because of the situation they find themselves in. But I think it’s obvious that if we get our defenders back we’ll be okay. We need to them back to give us a proper chance of challenging for the league.”

Sir Alex went on to reveal United’s physios and medical staff are “working over-time” to get players off the treatment table and back on the pitch. Some defenders – Jonny Evans and John O'Sheaaren't expected to return until the end of January but others should be back in action before the New Year.

On Friday morning the manager told reporters that Gary Neville and Rafael could return for the Reds’ trip to Hull City on 27 December, while Wes Brown may be fit for the home game against Wigan Athletic two days later.


http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=...&newsid=6644321

Rio, JOS, Evans - long terms casualty

Gary, Rafael, Brown - next few matches

No news about Vida though unsure.gif

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post Dec 20 2009, 10:02 AM

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sigh looks like a bad patch for the club rite now...but no worries we shall fight back like we did before...as usual we like to do it the hard way
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post Dec 20 2009, 10:20 AM

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One of those day I guess, after this we will come back strong smile.gif
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post Dec 20 2009, 10:28 AM

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post Dec 20 2009, 10:35 AM

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Gosh, what a night eh? How poor were we? We got wiped off the park by a Fulham team who knew we were weak at the back and capitalised on it. Zamora looked world class up against us and he basically won every knock down there was to be won. We gave away a cheap goal (very unlike the Scholes of old. He's been prone to having lapses in concentration and not being aware enuff of ppl closing him down a few times already, this time it certainly paid). The moment that went in, I went, 'oh here we go again.' Similar to the Villa game, they were content to throw players behind the ball and absorb the pressure, knowing fully well that Michael Owen and co. are crap at unlocking tight defenses. Where was our no. 7? He was so anonymous that the only significant contribution he had in the game was walking off to get subbed. No one showed up, and our weakness at the back was there for all to see. Horribly unlucky to have so many defenders out in the congested December period. Craven Cottage is never an easy place to go to, but to go and get whacked and look mediocre for the whole match when we're the defending champions? Come on. We didn't even deserve a goal last night much less a point. Its five defeats now and its not even the new year. I know its a very different league this season, but historically teams should only lose four or five if they harbour any hopes of winning it. We definitely need to step up, massively for the 2nd part of the season if we're even hoping of being thereabouts come May.
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post Dec 20 2009, 10:48 AM

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the first goal really shocked us and lift the fulham player.
we have problem to create chances in the 1st half.
IMO, the midfield didn't work well last night. When the midfield didn,t function, it will cause problem to the defender and also to the attacker.
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Fulham really exploit our backline injury crisis and they park the bus. After this we r going to see more teams with the same tactics..
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Pique > Evan for me..haha really miss that lad..
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QUOTE(nizamhameed @ Dec 20 2009, 11:03 AM)
Fulham really exploit our backline injury crisis and they park the bus. After this we r going to see more teams with the same tactics..
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3-0 is not a bus parking... more like accidental crash 'intentionally'...fulham really playing well..

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