@Frenly

wah grats man

damn cute your baby ray good price too!! nice ff

my ff doesnt follow the aro wan =.=" altho i want it to lol ...it just keep kissing the glass all over....cuz i using ocean free pure liquid, my tank bottom got very very thin layer of white dust thing...can see the trail of kisses my ff been doing wahahaha

@leggedy

Grats to you too ^o^
hehe, wana see your dino fish collection


grats for you two
wish i cud've joined the fishy trip too lol


Here are some of my ff pix too:

My awesomely lucky skilled shot of my ff:


The visible trail of kisses....as you can see its like its going in circles =.="


Lets take a closer look at the kiss trail:





Anyone want a kiss?





This post has been edited by leong2084: Jun 6 2010, 01:16 AM

Daniel, any updated pix of your arowana?

Has it fully recovered yet?

thats great man

a lot of times i hear ppl's aro jump out and just die =.=" its considered lucky and got good strength for the fact that it has lived and recovered ^^

that means its got great potential
summore its so easily accepting hikari...most of us fail in that area =.=" that includes me...i've gone back to feeding market prawns stuffed with pellets
cuz altho my aro was accepting the tetra pellets it wasnt really eating much and i was worried for its growth so haiz....


more TLC and it will be all nice and good


my T5 lights just broke apparently the sponge i put underneath to angle the lights towards 40degree caused it due to the immense heat comming from the tubes inside which caused the transparent plastic protective layer to melt inwards which hit the stupid rm98 bucks double pink tube (which i just bought 2 days ago) to break zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

now i've gotta go but transparent acrylic plastic to cut and replace and put back in the previous white light tubes....aih....do another time le...or rather not do it....cuz i scared the heat from the t5 will melt the silicone from the top since its so hot zzzz


@helangkawi

you can try those anubias tied onto wood (just make sure the wood does not have shark pointy edges or hook shapes which can cause dmg to arowana)
anubias grows regardless of the conditions of light, temp and ph of any freshwater fish tank....so long as there are fish and water...it will grow

This post has been edited by leong2084: Jun 7 2010, 08:06 PM

Huuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......................syiok........

solid collection there.....nice palmas shot lol!! (gotta get one of those cameras some day (i wish))

for me its a few things that can cause de le...

1) ntg to look up to
2) fatty foods
3) water quality not good
4) too much stress (kids bang on glass....too much constant bright lights etc

nono...bikini froggies!!

thats what i do...i got a plastic transparent container hanging 1 cm above water surface...the aro will poke its head at it once in a while....keeps it looking up at it trying to eat it from time to time...works for me

i'll take a few pix to show later when i get back hehe

mm mine dun have de lol but i hope it will help....at least theoratically thats how it shud be lol, for me ping pong balls sux...they just stick to the sides or corner and not move cuz the water does not have much friction on them cuz of the surface material it is made of...
ping pong balls actually made of a plastic that has a thin layer of air around them...

i pref to use those bio balls and plstic smiley gummy ball thingy kekeke they move around well enough to give my aro some dodging to do all day xD

get disco ball and disco light la....then your aro can do the boogey

This post has been edited by leong2084: Jun 9 2010, 06:00 PM

hehe hi bro Izwan

what pellets u giving your aro?

frankly its gonna be just your will vs the arowana's will...
but you have to take into consideration if your aro knows how to eat pellets or not lol

some aro ar...die die wont eat ....like mine was at most just chew/shred the pellets only, and eat like a tiny bit of it...

from what i experienced recently all i can say is not to stress yourself too much on it loe....it really can drive you insane wan

okies, so as promised, here are a few pix of my container for the froggie to keep it looking up





and then here's to celebrate my aro's first ever.... froggie meal !!!

Enjoy

hehe tq xD

hehe thanks all

@Frenly bro
me using 1 submersed light and one red(turned sorta purple =.=") flc light above

hehe slowly la, once your aro big enuf then can eat oledy xD
the froggie i gave was a very small one, it was the smallest of the lot in the lfs lol....gotta look for the small ones, when the aro gets bigger than freesize can also lol

you'll get the hang of what size can fit in your aro's mouth when you feed cut mp to the aro wan, once your aro is used to eating mp, you will automatically know what size it can take

hey Izwan bro

how long you have been starving your aro and what size is your aro?
what type of aro pellets you are feeding as well?


As much as i can say there are few factors that contribute to how long it will take to get aro to eat pellets...

1) age of aro...if its like an adult oledy then frankly speakings you are attempting mission impossible.......the younger the aro the easier and faster it will accept pellets cuz its still at its fast growing stages..
2) the pellets you are feeding will depend on the taste/smell and looks.....to my experience i've tried hikari aro/azoo aro/tetra aro /hikari koi and e-shrimp (dried shrimps) and some really cheap sa pellets...

our of all these only the tetra aro pellets and e-shrimp have success and this has led me to believe is becuz my arowana is more tuned to shrimpy taste....any pellets that dont taste or smell like shrimp it will ignore...
so this also depends on which taste your arowana is more tuned to as well...you need to discover thru expense...no choice wan

3) the tank mates...if you have a lot of lampang / koi / ff with your aro...it will stimulate competition for food....and to this you really need...a lot! like those talapia ponds...all rushing towards the bread you throw there like hungry zombies....

4) the food you have been feeding it before....if its already had insects for its staple diet then its gonna be really hard cuz insects are like our sex feeling to them....its so addictive its hard to break off...

what can be done here is to slowly and surely get the arowana to accept mp first...and only mp for its diet for like a month.....thats when it wud've probably forgotten what insects were or tasted like...
then only can start to introduce pellets by completely giving it pellets only...cuz they will find that pellets taste better than mp since mp is...quite almost tasteless...

at this stage, i wud recommend tetra arowana since its closest taste to mp and shrimps...

5) most ppl dont take notice of this part.....the water parameters play a large role on this....so this will depend on your arowana type you are keeping....

personally i've had many ppl tell me their red arowana have more appetite when its at their natural ph level of 6.5-7
how true this is i'm not sure...cuz i've never attempted to mess with the ph....take note that stability of ph is more important than preferred ph. Imho trying to attain a ph of below 7.4 is like playing with fire...
cuz you think about it...our tap water ph is at 7.5 avg for every household i've surveyed around...sometimes it can be at 7.8 or 7.5....but take note...the tap water has never and probably will never be at 6.5-7

so by trying to use methods to make your ph below 7.4 is to cause headache for yourself only....which in turn is risky cuz aro can die to ph shock...EASILY...

i prefer to let my ph stay at 7.5 and just do wc like no worries in the world cuz its the same as tap water ph...my aro is doing very well so thats y i din believe in all that aro will be best at acidic ph level etc....thats just kiasu talk to me.. lol

for water parameters just try to keep water clean and make sure the left over foods are always taken out....

from other forums i've been introduced to ocean free pure liquid....i've been using for a month already...i've noticed that it really has helped boost my aro's appetite and its probly cuz of the good water parameters this product helps to bring about....healthier environment = healthier fish = better appetite ....logical..but experience will say that equation also = more money outta the pocket



well thats all i can say for now i guess
but i dunno if my opinion is the right case here cuz i've oledy given up and gone back to stuffing the mp with the pellets xD
at least its still accepting the dried e-shrimp lol

Overall my experience with pellets training was a very mentally and emotionally painful one...


btw guys...i noticed my red's cheeks are starting to develop more and more color! its slow but its really starting to show.....cuz i dont have a good camera with macro shot function i cant show >.<
i'm struggling to work harder and buy a good camera like you guys to take these beautiful pix

This post has been edited by leong2084: Jun 11 2010, 08:26 PM

i'm not =.="

i'm merely describing my experience and findings

i still have a lot to learn ....

dang...if you live near my place i wud've gladly shared some of my mix of pellets with you lol then you can try out and see if its cuz of the taste...

its not to say impossible le...its just that the older they are...the more pro they are at fasting....and can go up to so long it will make you worried until you go gila lol....
for me i was really pulling my hair out on the 3rd week already...then near the 4th week it started to chew and shred the tetra pellets to bits but not exactly eating it either...just a tiny bit by bit only....

but mine is still about 10inch loe...so its considered young thats y easier....yours 2ft oledy, my guess is that its gonna be much harder cuz 2ft size i'd guess its about 2 years old oledy, so basically its hard to change the diet of 2 years experience in just a few months haha

but there are stories i've read around that have been successful with converting adult arowana to take pellets

mp is market prawn lol

there are a few methods you can try:

1) cut the mp into slices and give for a month or so till its readily accepting the mp
2) after its readily accepting mp, start crushing the hikari pellets into powder form then add a bit of water to make it all sludgy
3) dip and coat / massage the hikari sludge into the mp slices
4) then feed the arowana by holding the mp slices (with chopstik or something ...not fingers lol) up above the water surface at max 1cm


then you watch and see, it might slowly get used to associating the taste of the hikari with the mp slices

then after sometime you can start trying to put the hikari in by itself then maybe and just hopefully it wud've started accepting it...

This method i find is logical and i read if from other forums lol so i really not sure if it really can work, so it really depends on your aro's attitude haha


hope this helps

me just got back from lunch with pigpig at leggedy's restaurant ^^

very nice and summore get to try his dishes haha very tasty

thx you leggedy for your treat ^^
will definitely be comming around again some time


Solid 3ple tier tank haha with so many bichir-eel xD


Cant wait to see your future red and gold

haha yeah really i like your yin yong and your father's beefy dish too xD

no worries le, even if parents find out just let em know its a type of investment, when big oledy will be worth even more and attract even more customers to the place!!
Thats y arowana is feng sui fish that bring ppl wealth hahaha

hey dun mess with leggedy man...he's the bruce lee in the kitchen!!

one hit can k.o any idiots

However god blessed him with a good heart and kind soul!!
and some really good cooking skill too

hmnn i remember when i went to aquaria klcc, it was just in time for feeding time.....they mainly fed the rays mp i think :S