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post Dec 5 2006, 06:43 PM

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Guys, i need some urgent help here.

My budget only allow a 26 inch model, and i am torn between these 2:

LG 26LC2R

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Samsung LA26R71B

I narrowed down my selection to these 2 because both of them have a HDTV Tuner built in. Thanks in advance.
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post Dec 5 2006, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(terencey @ Dec 5 2006, 06:51 PM)
hi, trying PMing alkt. He bought a LG LCDTV recently and wanna sell it. Maybe you can buy frm him or get some feedback on the unit.
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Thanks for the info. The LG has a universal remote which samsung doesnt have. It also has a 14:9 mode to strech 4:3 sources a wee bit, 16:9 mode on the samsung will really ruin the picture.

EDIT: I found out that the LG is an AUO panel. Sigh. Samsung has the performance of the SPVA, while LG has the features and the unfortunate AUO. Headache.

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post Dec 5 2006, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(alkt @ Dec 5 2006, 09:33 PM)
aiya redken, get the Samsung lor smile.gif

terence,
no la not selling anymore. spent the cash on the consoles liao smile.gif
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Ok la. Add to cart liao, unless suddenly durian runtuh, i get the Aquos 32.

QUOTE(LiLBoy @ Dec 5 2006, 10:06 PM)
can I ask you some question??? Why my Astro program graphic look crap on my parents Sony 32inch V series Bravia LCD TV???Is that Tv Problem??
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Astro looks like crap even on conventional TV. But then it's a matter of nitpicking. Some people can live with VHS, go figure.
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post Dec 8 2006, 10:37 PM

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LCD TVs in Malaysia are really well behind date la. I see 1080p models everywhere on the net, and not to mention bloody cheap too.
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post Dec 9 2006, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(cocklea @ Dec 9 2006, 12:03 AM)
hey guys, i know most of the new slimfits from samsung support HD res up to 720p and 1080i. what i want to know is, i saw an old model just now (i think its old), 29 inch, black in color, priced at RM1700 and its not widescreen. now, theres no HDTV written on the TV or anything so i assume its not full HD, but is it true that all slimfits have at least a 420P?
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420p? Seems odd to me.
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post Dec 9 2006, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(cocklea @ Dec 9 2006, 12:29 AM)
adui, typo, malunyer! blush.gif i mean 480p
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Yes, CRT TVs have a working resolution of 480 lines.

QUOTE(allrightall @ Dec 9 2006, 09:26 AM)
not to mention it is more expensive than singapore despite the facts that some brands are assembled in malaysia.
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Grrrr. Our government really have a big appetite.
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post Dec 10 2006, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(allrightall @ Dec 10 2006, 09:46 AM)
smile.gif anyone knows if my lcdtv comes with a builtin digital tuner, can receive those rtm1 rtm2 dvb-t trial signal or not? if can then must buy one that has the tuner. smile.gif
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Samsung R7 has one for the budget solution.
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post Dec 12 2006, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(Kent82 @ Dec 12 2006, 04:51 PM)
Friend, so what you mean is its not neccesary to get a HDMI input if your LCDTV is 720p/1080i native? yes i know that a lot of people debate about the video signal, what should be block and HDCP issue. What makes me wonder is why a lot of LCDTVs only support to 1080i but still put in HDMI since its not used to its fullest potential. Its more like a gimmick then a new feature. Cause everyone thought , "Oh it has a HDMI input, should be future proof". Correct me if I am wrong.  biggrin.gif

Its just the same case as the PS3, remember that initial announced spec for PS3 20 Gb version. It doesnt come with HDMI port, so a lot of people thought it can't output HD video signal. Sony was explaining like mad that we still can get HD video signal with the component cables, HDMI is just a plus point not a requirement. But consumers still got the mind set that not future proof, so in the end to cut the story short, Sony just throw in the HDMI port.  rclxms.gif
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What's to argue here? Even 1080p doesnt max out the HDMI connection. At it's current state of version 1.3, people see 1080 as the limit? Of course it isn't. There is more to come for HD, perhaps 1920p, who knows. But for certain, there are signs of 'limitation' problems for BluRay to output video at analogue, on the PS3. The worst might be around the corner, if HDCP really takes off, and i am quite certain it will because there is an all out war against pirates globally, non HDCP sets would best be use as a coffee table then.

Furthermore, there is no longer non-HDCP(DVI or HDMI) new TV sets being released, because of the new regulation:

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In Europe, the European Information & Communications Technology Industry Association (EICTA) in 2005 mandated that all HDTVs displaying the "HD Ready" logo must include HDMI or DVI inputs and support for HDCP. In August 2005, the Cable and Satellite Broadcast Association of Asia (CASBAA) recommended that HDMI (or DVI) and HDCP "be included on every set-top box capable of outputting uncompressed high definition content."

In the United States, the FCC has mandated that beginning July 1, 2005, all HDTVs 36 inches and larger labeled "Digital Cable Ready" must include either a DVI/HDCP or HDMI/HDCP interface. In addition, either a DVI/HDCP or HDMI/HDCP interface is required for.
QUOTE(spoonkin @ Dec 12 2006, 05:26 PM)
1. i tested both original or ahem version
its like our pc, we put in dvd movies and play dvd
no sound for DTS sound option

2. yes, all the sound thru the tv, no special AV receiver or hi-fi
its the latest pioneer machine that plays div-x, i get the model code when i get back
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Either ur tv doesnt have a decoder or ur player have defauled to output the audio via it's optical/coaxial link.

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post Dec 16 2006, 06:44 PM

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Finally, got my self a LG 32LC2R. Perhaps not the best perfomer, but relatively cheap at RM3599 oonly, with 2 years warranty to boot. Ho ho ho. Merry Christmas biggrin.gif
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post Dec 16 2006, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(allrightall @ Dec 16 2006, 07:16 PM)
drool.gif  have you tried watching sdtv like tv8 on it, hows the picture quality? btw you might need this, just in case...  smile.gif

dead pixel locator
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Havent try normal TV yet, coz i have lack of antennae in my house, but i think it would look bad. Perhaps the 14:9 option on the LG will make sure i dun lose that much of a real estate when displaying such modes. Also, no dead pixel wat so ever. Have been hooking up the LG to my pc's DSub. The worries of low res. on such usage are blown out of proportion by people who read paper specs. I can assure u i looks astounding. I can now operate my pc from 3 meters away. Hurrah.

QUOTE(alkt @ Dec 16 2006, 08:44 PM)
mine is the smaller brother, 26" version biggrin.gif
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Ya, i consulted u b4 remember. Regrettably, I could not stick to the original plan of getting a Samsung R7 because i think there is a price hike for the particular model in 32". The same goes for Sharp Aquos 32BX5. Both models are asking for 4.5K, so i think, what the heck, just get the cheapest one and be done with.
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post Dec 16 2006, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(alkt @ Dec 16 2006, 10:21 PM)
yea now i remember. well if u got cash then sell the LG one then get Samsung one lor smile.gif

Btw, between Sharp and Samsung, which will u guys choose? smile.gif
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Samsung of course. Firstly, it has gorgeous looks (could help u persuade ur wife u are not wasting ur finance meaninglessly), second of course the SPVA panels.

As for me i am contented with this set already, because technologies come and go so fast. By the time i feel the LG's mediocrity, it's probably time to move on to the next big thing.

tong1774: i was asking the salesman about his views regarding the Sharp Aquos, he shook his head, then he say, " Better dun la." LOL. Ok. I will take his word for it. No offence to other Sharp owners.

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post Dec 17 2006, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(tong1774 @ Dec 17 2006, 12:37 AM)
I saw the Sharp GA5 before and honestly the PQ is better then any of the Sony series, including the latest X-series. But its hard to find the GA series in Malaysia and the price is almost the same with the Sony X-series. So if i have the money to burn, i will get the GA before other LCD TV. But of course if budget is not an issue, i will get the Pioneer Plasma and wont bother about the burn-in issue.

The BX is a low-end series from Sharp, and thats why i can afford it. Beside the backlight leakage problem, i am quite happy with the Sharp. Samsung and LG is a no no to me, as i have bad experience with their QC. Just my own experience though...
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LG QC not that good la. But i think Samsung is reputable. Since my LG is covered by 2 years door-to-door warranty policy, i couldnt care less. Anyhow, the life expectancy of LG sets is 7 years.

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post Dec 17 2006, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(SilverCrimz @ Dec 17 2006, 01:58 PM)
Redken, which Samsung model you're going for? and if you're getting it, where would you be gettin it from?
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I think the R7 aka Bordeaux would fit me nicely. R7 and other LGs have one thing in common, HDTuner built in. Surely, another plus point.
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post Dec 17 2006, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(SilverCrimz @ Dec 17 2006, 06:26 PM)
I was planning to get the Samsung 26" but the 32" seems like a better choice it seems and of course with a slightly higher price  sweat.gif.
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4.5k isn't just a lil higher, it's a hell lot, which u can spend the rest of it on a quality surround sound/console. Considering, currently 26"R7 is RM2999 at Harvey Norman; I think picking the (S7/LG + Good sound system) is a better choice that topping up a whole 1.5k for the 32"R7.
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post Dec 17 2006, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(SilverCrimz @ Dec 17 2006, 09:17 PM)
oh seems to be cheaper at Harvey Norman. My statement is based on prices at a shop which i can't remember what it was, it's either SENQ or HSL. I saw the 32" priced at 5.5k while the 26" at 4k+. Considering my current budget, i'm leaning towards the 26" but i read the sounds from it isnt all that good and furthermore, i'm no good in determining whats a good sound system.

You can call me a somewhat a perfectionist in favourable to style cuz the design of the R7 seems like a very fitting pair with the PS3. Any further opinions from you or any of the forumers here is very welcomed since i still need to gather more feedback on the R7. notworthy.gif
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U certainly need a good sound system to realise this whole HD viewing because the sound from the LCD's speakers are just too tiny for their own good. So i think, for u budget, it's better to get a S7 and external surround system for ur future console. After all, there no fun, if u dun game in surround, regardless of how big ur screen is.

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post Dec 20 2006, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Dec 20 2006, 08:26 PM)
Or get the LG 32" lcd tv at harvey-norman, selling for RM3499 currently.  tongue.gif
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Spot on. Grea price cut in line with Fly Me To Korea contest, no better time to get a LG.




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post Dec 21 2006, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(munky @ Dec 20 2006, 10:17 PM)
Did some search on the internet and found this :

1080i vs 1080p

So it's true, unless the screen size is BIG, you wont see much difference. And they have to concentrate to see the differences.

One more thing i dont understand is this : click here

Can someone explain the 2nd part ?
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Yes. The link have been mentioned before, and we do get the point. Since 1080p displays are not going cheap anytime soon, i believe it's an invalid comparison from the cost point of view.

QUOTE(irvene2000 @ Dec 20 2006, 11:06 PM)
which of this is the recommended tv?
LA32R71B
CS29Z45HE
WS32Z40HN
CS29Z45MH
CS29Z40MH
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Can u at least include the brand, i see algebra in these.
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post Dec 31 2006, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(tnsai @ Dec 30 2006, 10:51 PM)
hey all i hav a question, i currently am using a 29 inch standard TV.. and was just wondering considering a 40 inch lcd is well... wide screen.. in general is it much "smaller" than my 29 inch tv? for example, my 20.1 inch lcd is about the same height as my 17 inch monitor..

I am actually asking because, size is a matter in terms of enjoyment and available shelf space.

Thanks..

i actually tried using pythogras to count it but not sure if it is accurate
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http://tvcalculator.com/

Here u go.
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post Jan 1 2007, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(silencer @ Dec 31 2006, 10:37 PM)
Wont surprise me at all redbull....even the new model sony bravia X 40" 250 seriess is about RM8k in Japan compared with the old model bravia x 40" 200 series which will cost u about RM16,000????? I guess..sony item is overprised here in malaysia... doh.gif
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Someone would prolly say, "Nonsense, Sony has great value. Great bragging values." LOL. Anyway, happy new year.

P/S: I would expect someone to barge in about now.
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post Jan 2 2007, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(tnsai @ Jan 2 2007, 03:16 AM)
Actually just want to ask, I'm a xbox 360 and PS3 owner and it is because of these machines that I am looking into a HDTV..

Just want to ask though how important is 1080p if i am only getting something in the 40 - 42 inch range?

and I usually play games at a distance of 6ft+ from the TV? I've heard that ppl say if you screen size isn't too big you have to be really close to see the difference etween 720p and 1080p, is that true?

thanks for any advice..
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Ur viewing distance is too near for 40 inch model. Prepare to pan ur head.

If u are prepare to spend more than 14k on the TV, by all means get a 1080p. If it isnt, the look for the one with best contrast and color. It's been proven many times that these 2 factors overwhelm the reso.

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