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TSKLschoolkid
post Nov 17 2009, 06:03 PM, updated 17y ago

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Football is of course a local sports. I like play football too with my brother in the wide green field, the smell of the grass, the air, the trees, the skies....its real football i guess with massive green field.

Behind this leisure activities, its a sports, behind this sport theres a game, behind this games theres a match, behind this match theres a competition and prizes. Behind this prizes theres a industry...a sport industries. Unlike Malaysia, these sports industries had evolved far many decades in comparison. Its goes as further to advertisements campaign, sports products from clothing, gears to food/drinks, sponsorships, contract, infrastrusture, media campaign, taxation, mercahndizing and in 1990s Britain had strategically went on robustly in their sports global marketing in brainwashing kids into the idolistism of their footbal merchandizing and products.

Well, their plan succeed. Look in Malaysia. How many are proud wearing foreign footbal jersey clubs? sadly, some even fight amongst each other due to issues of foreign footbal clubs and funnily they're not even on the so-called 'home ground' and never been there in worst case.

If foreigners like Malaysian wearing their footbal jersey clubs there in Britain say for example, do you think they wil be accepted by local Brits? One thing for sure is that they will get free-cursing by Brits like " Go home !" "What u idiots doing wearing our jersey?!", especially by hooligans or even kids.
I dare you try it in the mid of real football environment in Britain. Do you think they will perceive in this manner..." Ha? you're from Malaysia? You know our Club? Oh...surprise...come, lets watch footbal together...welcome to Britain..." Ha ha ha...you are joker then. Either you ll get this " WTF you're doin with this jersey you F**KING SH*T ! !!! Take it off !!! Go home!!!" or you'll get a bottle smash on yer head from somewhere!

You know something, its so sad even, when theres a match between say Malaysia and brit footbal club , some malaysian even proud in wearing a jersey of that brit club...????? Mannn...its so phatetic! These people knew nothing I supposed! Worst than a cultural shock syndrome!

To the eyes of themselves of wearing foreign football jersey /products, they look or seem proud, even patch stickers to their cars!

To the foreigners themsleves seeing people not from ther home-ground worst from other countries wearing their footbal jersey and being unnecessaryly proud, they will only see these people as fools.

SO, IF YOU PEOPLE OUT THERE WISH TO GO ALL OUT ON ANY FOREIGN FOOTBALL PRODUCTS AND PROUD OF THEM , BE CAREFUL ...

AS YOU WOULD PROBABLY BEING LAUGH AS FOOLY PROUD ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE IN KL


NO OFFENCE!

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post Nov 17 2009, 06:15 PM

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what nonsense are you spewing?
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post Nov 17 2009, 06:20 PM

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you're a moron. these big clubs has fans all over the world. not just Malaysia. what does that make them? they too get bashed if they go to UK? i'd support local clubs too if they'd up their standards. problem is, the local games arent as interesting to watch compared to premier league games.
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you're a friggin moron.

is an englishman managing the england national team?
while a real englishman is managing the thai team instead.

the top 4 premier league teams also dont have english managers.
heck, the last english manager to win the premier league / 1st division was howard kendall way way back in 1987.

likewise, all the africans, spanish, french, italian playing in the english league are also not welcomed? same with the other leagues around?

anyway what are u wearing right now? nike? levis? oakleys? puma?
why dont u wear asadi? uhh what else are local ripoff brands?
sp stop being a fool yourself.

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post Nov 17 2009, 06:55 PM

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Well, you're entitled to voice your dis-satisfaction... For me, I don't really like the design of our jersey. I wouldn't wear a jersey promoting "TM". However, I think you're over-exaggerated on the part about those brits gonna jeer at you for wearing their jersey. And one more thing, I think Arsenal has the best designed jersey. user posted image

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post Nov 17 2009, 07:00 PM

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boys, why are you being so mad?
didnt you get what i'm saying here

its the ATTITUDE

cant you distinguish between business essence in sport industries and negative attitude.? its two seperate platform shall you wish to take them as an argument.

by its basis and ground, you all failed and lost

i would also wish to advice you boys to stop cursing nor call bad other people shall you lost nor lost any arguments (tho i open these as discussion, didnt u get it...i doubt!)

typical loser will pursue with personal attacks...(like what am wearing...bla bla bla)

as fer yer info, i'm always wear 'seliper jepun' RM2.99 local products obtainable at carefour, i wearing batek sarong with no panties to KLCC, but i need to wear a pair of bra which have steel support as my breast is still growing ( is that answering your queries?)

C'mon boys. take it positively alright.

else, you might just upgraded yourself to fooly proud for being self-moron (not for nothing as in the title)




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post Nov 17 2009, 07:07 PM

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create an account just to say this? lol

btw, did you went to europe before and kena screw from the local fans there?
if not how you know? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


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post Nov 17 2009, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(ProbMan @ Nov 17 2009, 06:55 PM)
Well, you're entitled to voice your dis-satisfaction... I don't really like the design of our jersey. I wouldn't wear a jersey promoting "TM". However, I think you're over-exaggerated on the part about those brits gonna jeer at you for wearing their jersey. And one more thing, I think Arsenal has the best designed jersey. user posted image
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Hi ProbMan...
ha ha ha......so, u dnt like just the design innit...
am sorry, am not mean to be exaggerating, but it did happened in front of me in quite a number of occasions in UK
just to stand up how mad i am seeing those brits treated foreigners in such manner, and sad to find some our local chaps go for theirs with negative attitudes, without really understanding whats really goin on in the other side pf the world where the root is ...
dnt get wrong ya...merely to point up some facts

cheers
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post Nov 17 2009, 07:13 PM

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so actually what is your point here?

discourage us from supporting international league football?, because if not some hooligan might kick our arse(as u claimed)

or encourage us supporting local league?



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post Nov 17 2009, 07:23 PM

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ha ha ha.. bravo... this is hilarious, keep em' comin kid.
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yeah! go buy more selipar jepun ngan panties kt care four apa jadah ntah.
just let them do whatever they want lah!
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fooly proud tak fooly proud..! g die! VISCA BARCA GO GUNNERS!

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post Nov 17 2009, 08:13 PM

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lol...HE IS DEFINITELY A LOSER OF KELANTAN.

p/s: if u din't go to uk before just shut the fark up. u know nuts man
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post Nov 17 2009, 08:16 PM

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Sorry, but based on my obviously inferior level of understanding in the English language compared to yours, I'm guessing what you're trying to say here is that as foreigners we have no right to support clubs that are miles away?

Your username suits you well my friend.
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post Nov 17 2009, 08:28 PM

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shall i conclude your agenda:

-EPL is for loser
-Football is a serious business
-Only noob go buy their jersey
-M'sia football FTW

no need thank me biggrin.gif

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post Nov 17 2009, 08:32 PM

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I agree with u kid. At least if u malaysian, do support local football also. if not.. stfu then go uk lah n stay there. For me i support both msian football, kelantan fc and also i really love to watch arsenal fc playing.
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alrite, first thing first, being a malaysian doesnt force u to support malaysian football. When u wear a Manchester United jersey in a game in Old Trafford, they will not say "Go home la", instead, they would be proud they have fans all over the world.

Let me ask u another question. Do you know who is Kobe Bryant? Do u know who is Lebron James?
Do u know any of the Malaysian basketball team player?

and OMG
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as fer yer info, i'm always wear 'seliper jepun' RM2.99 local products obtainable at carefour, i wearing batek sarong with no panties to KLCC, but i need to wear a pair of bra which have steel support as my breast is still growing ( is that answering your queries?)

with that i assume u are a girl, and wearing japanese slippers is okay. Batek sarong with no panties?? Ahahaha.....
I guess you are assuming that KLCC is a kampung ye?


Added on November 17, 2009, 8:42 pmi cant believe u go UK before ahaha... i never go UK before also but i doubt anyone that went there that saw the way they dress, u wouldnt wear slipper jepun and batik sarong to KLCC

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Wow, you guys are good. I read the post 3 times and I still can't understand what he is trying to say.
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post Nov 17 2009, 08:50 PM

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her english level is IELP level oleady. if can she should be in oxford d

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post Nov 17 2009, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(KLschoolkid @ Nov 17 2009, 07:03 PM)
Football is of course a local sports. I like play football too with my brother in the wide green field, the smell of the grass, the air, the trees, the skies....its real football i guess with massive green field.

Behind this leisure activities, its a sports, behind this sport theres a game, behind this games theres a match, behind this match theres a competition and prizes. Behind this prizes theres a industry...a sport industries. Unlike Malaysia, these sports industries had evolved far many decades in comparison. Its goes as further to advertisements campaign, sports products  from clothing, gears to food/drinks, sponsorships, contract, infrastrusture, media campaign, taxation, mercahndizing and in 1990s Britain had strategically went on robustly in their sports global marketing in brainwashing kids into the idolistism of their footbal merchandizing and products.

Well, their plan succeed. Look in Malaysia. How many are proud wearing foreign footbal jersey clubs? sadly, some even fight amongst each other due to issues of foreign footbal clubs and funnily they're not even on the so-called 'home ground' and never been there in worst case.

If foreigners like Malaysian wearing their footbal jersey clubs there in Britain say for example, do you think they wil be accepted by local Brits? One thing for sure is that they will get free-cursing by Brits like " Go home !" "What u idiots doing wearing our jersey?!", especially by hooligans or even kids.
I dare you try it in the mid of real football environment in Britain. Do you think they will perceive in this manner..." Ha?  you're from Malaysia? You know our Club? Oh...surprise...come, lets watch footbal together...welcome to Britain..." Ha ha ha...you are joker then. Either you ll get this " WTF you're doin with this jersey you F**KING SH*T ! !!! Take it off !!! Go home!!!" or you'll get a bottle smash on yer head from somewhere!

You know something, its so sad even, when theres a match between say Malaysia and brit footbal club , some malaysian even proud in wearing a jersey of that brit club...????? Mannn...its so phatetic! These people knew nothing I supposed! Worst than a cultural shock syndrome!

To the eyes of themselves of wearing foreign football jersey /products, they look or seem proud, even patch stickers to their cars!

To the foreigners themsleves seeing people not from ther home-ground worst from other countries wearing their footbal jersey and being unnecessaryly proud, they will only see these people as fools.

SO, IF YOU PEOPLE OUT THERE WISH TO GO ALL OUT ON ANY FOREIGN FOOTBALL PRODUCTS AND PROUD OF THEM , BE CAREFUL ...

AS YOU WOULD PROBABLY BEING LAUGH AS FOOLY PROUD ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE IN KL
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QUOTE(slyyoung @ Nov 17 2009, 09:44 PM)
Wow, you guys are good. I read the post 3 times and I still can't understand what he is trying to say.
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the writter starts the essay with a gentle introduction of how sweet football is. About how she enjoys football with her brother.

Then she starts persuading by giving the conspiracy behind football. The advertisements. Then she compares the football industries in malaysia and britain. She states that football industsry in britain is all about advertisement campaigns. not only using the popularity of football in britain but ABUSING it.

Then she continues by stating we shouldnt be wearing foreign football jerseys. She say, when we wear football jerseys of clubs rather than Malaysian, the foreigners will tease us with " Go home la, why wearing OUR jersey". She say malaysian are expecting warm welcome but facts are they will not.

Then she states that when theres a match among a foreign club and malaysia club, there will be some malayasian that supports the opposite team which is very "phatetic".

Then she beat around the bush just to say how we will be treated like fools by wearing foreign club jerseys.

At the end she states that, if u are in KL, u will be laughed as a fool for supporting foreign clubs.

-im sorry, thats the best extract i could get from her wonderful essay. My "malaysia-english" is not at the stage of hers at the moment.-

btw, i assume the writter is a girl as she mentioned about wearing bra to support her breast that is growing. And not wearing panties.

i do assume that she will not wear bra when she is 18 coz its "fully developed" already
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QUOTE(KLschoolkid @ Nov 17 2009, 07:00 PM)
boys, why are you being so mad?
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why are we so mad? cause you're calling us idiots for supporting a team from a foreign country.

we do get what you're trying to say, you're calling us idiots.
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Sure hope this could be an entertaining thread.
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If foreigners like Malaysian wearing their footbal jersey clubs there in Britain say for example, do you think they wil be accepted by local Brits? One thing for sure is that they will get free-cursing by Brits like " Go home !" "What u idiots doing wearing our jersey?!", especially by hooligans or even kids.


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Either you ll get this " WTF you're doin with this jersey you F**KING SH*T ! !!! Take it off !!! Go home!!!" or you'll get a bottle smash on yer head from somewhere!


i totally disagree with those two statements.. TOTALLY... you probably ended up in the wrong side of the world...
as for me, i have many friends from Manchester (HOME GROUND PURE BRITISH BLOOD WHO SUPPORTS UTD).. i cant even remember how many of them... they even admitted how proud they were to have asian UTD supporters.. please dont stereotype them if you only got to know few of the britains..

http://www.myspace.com/kingdutchman
http://www.myspace.com/triggerthegambler
http://www.myspace.com/chrishjohnson007 ---->my best mate

those above are some of my Utd friends... get to know them and then you know your statement is total BS... doh.gif

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if we are fools for supporting British football clubs, what is the newspaper publishers? In TheStar, normally 3 or 4 pages will be used to cover the news of EPL, Serie A, Liga BBVA . While maybe half a page is used to cover Malaysia Cup(is it..?).
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Hello there..

As for me as long as you love the game of football it doesn't matter what team you support. I even support my college football team even though they play sucks. Please, do not differentiate the difference between supporting the teams with the beauty of football. Even a "kaki bangku" person still contribute the excitement of football buy enjoying the games. My 2 cent.
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I don't understand the post...

But I do agree (if that's what he/she meant) about Malaysians supporting other clubs when they face our national team.

I feel that this involves nationalistic pride, and turning your back against the national team is equiavlent to turning your back against your own country... But most people are not proud of Malaysia anyway... (remember, love for the govt and love for the country is two different things wink.gif)
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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Nov 17 2009, 09:06 PM)
I don't understand the post...

But I do agree (if that's what he/she meant) about Malaysians supporting other clubs when they face our national team.

I feel that this involves nationalistic pride, and turning your back against the national team is equiavlent to turning your back against your own country... But most people are not proud of Malaysia anyway... (remember, love for the govt and love for the country is two different things wink.gif)
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QUOTE(slyyoung @ Nov 17 2009, 09:09 PM)
Wah Naz, ur england so powderful, can understand. Teach me, can?
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Can... But only if you can explain what this whole thread is about.
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QUOTE(KLschoolkid @ Nov 17 2009, 06:03 PM)


You know something, its so sad even, when theres a match between say Malaysia and brit footbal club , some malaysian even proud in wearing a jersey of that brit club...????? Mannn...its so phatetic! These people knew nothing I supposed! Worst than a cultural shock syndrome!

To the eyes of themselves of wearing foreign football jersey /products, they look or seem proud, even patch stickers to their cars!


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the only valid point u have inside your post..
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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Nov 17 2009, 08:59 PM)
Sure hope this could be an entertaining thread.
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Entertaining in terms of? If you are talking about personal attacking and throwing insults, there are already doing so. Take out your popcorns. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(syarz @ Nov 17 2009, 09:01 PM)
i totally disagree with those two statements.. TOTALLY... you probably ended up in the wrong side of the world...
as for me, i have many friends from Manchester (HOME GROUND PURE BRITISH BLOOD WHO SUPPORTS UTD).. i cant even remember how many of them...  they even admitted how proud they were to have asian UTD supporters.. please dont stereotype them if you only got to know few of the britains.. 

http://www.myspace.com/kingdutchman
http://www.myspace.com/triggerthegambler
http://www.myspace.com/chrishjohnson007   ---->my  best mate

those above are some of my Utd friends... get to know them and then you know your statement is total BS... doh.gif
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Bro, your best mate is from Coventry (as stated on his profile). Shouldn't he be professing his love for Coventry instead? Many mat sallehs if not all are very proud of their hometown club. And your the other two friends are from Germany. brows.gif

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my friend wore a liverpool jersey , some thug in UK pull him off the streets and ask him where is he staying , he was a student somewhere in or around the place thats associate with liverpool so the thug just let him go.

btw , why so serious ? relax2 and smile.


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posting a tl;dr articles...using whore avatar....so which dupe are u??

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QUOTE(plokoon @ Nov 17 2009, 10:05 PM)
Bro, your best mate is from Coventry (as stated on his profile). Shouldn't he be professing his love for Coventry instead? Many mat sallehs if not all are very proud of their hometown club. And your the other two friends are from Germany.  brows.gif
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yes yes... i knw... my friends list is long... so i pick my top friends only....
but i knw u get my point rite?
coventry no coventry still is a british blood... or homegrown like TS said biggrin.gif
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supporting local clubs?

just like those kelantanese fans?
man, i don't even wanna be associates with these uncivilized babarian

trying to wreak havoc and burn the whole stadium down every time they lose a match?

lucky, in bukit jalil, there was a ditch to kept those baboons out from the player, or else i cannot imagine what would have happen to those player...

proud of local football?
just like always? jaguh kampung syok sendiri....

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QUOTE(plokoon @ Nov 17 2009, 10:05 PM)
Bro, your best mate is from Coventry (as stated on his profile). Shouldn't he be professing his love for Coventry instead? Many mat sallehs if not all are very proud of their hometown club. And your the other two friends are from Germany.   brows.gif
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http://www.myspace.com/liam5tm

http://www.myspace.com/matty1965
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used to comment them before... just quite less this past few months...
pure Manchester as you've wanted smile.gif



http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?...&imageID=784276
one more..
kindly look at the last picture comment posted by this British guy....

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Oh oh. one of my customer (Malaysian) married to an angmor/mat salleh/foreigner man.

Tommorow remind me to say this his husband. "WTF are you doing with this woman, divorce her now, she's Malaysian!! Go marry someone else"

I would probably prepare an empty bottle to smash his head.

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QUOTE(syarz @ Nov 17 2009, 10:38 PM)
http://www.myspace.com/liam5tm

http://www.myspace.com/matty1965
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used to comment them before... just quite less this past few months...
pure Manchester as you've wanted smile.gif
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?...&imageID=784276
one more..
kindly look at the last picture comment posted by this British guy....
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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Nov 17 2009, 09:06 PM)
I don't understand the post...

But I do agree (if that's what he/she meant) about Malaysians supporting other clubs when they face our national team.

I feel that this involves nationalistic pride, and turning your back against the national team is equiavlent to turning your back against your own country... But most people are not proud of Malaysia anyway... (remember, love for the govt and love for the country is two different things wink.gif)
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Naz,
This is only half true actually. I've been to a couple of matches where big teams come down to Malaysia to play. True enough 75% of the stadium wears anything but Malaysian jersey but when we're close to scoring, 99% of the stadium cheers for Malaysia. Its a fact. Look at how happy the Malaysians were when we came back from 2 goal deficit to equalise against Man Utd middle this year.

For me, im Arsenal thru and thru and when it comes to national teams, i don't support any team in particular except Malaysia. Well we play crap football to begin with but if we ever do play, i'm all for Malaysia.

To be honest, i dont really get too excited when big tournaments come up, i mean i don't feel the need to wake up at 3am to watch Euro or even World Cup group stages. But if its WC Final or Euro Final, of coz its worth getting up. BUT, if its Arsenal game live on TV on weekends, it must take something big for me to not watch it.
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This fool is so proud to have bought a 'selipar JEPUN' from Carrefour, the FRENCH retailer.
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as long as we people loves football,it doesn't matter which club we support.i can support which team i want without effing cares what others might think.i support arsenal and barca.im also a proud selangor fan ever since rusdi suparman days.do u know him?lol.


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seriously dont bother this post. If she/he really honest and patriotic about this theory, then dont wear Zara, LV, Levi, Topman wear Kamdar, Masjid Jamek, Danau shirt. Dont use import car use national car. Boycott KFC, McD, Pizza Hut eat Nasi Lemak Antarabangsa, McCurry. Dont wear Tight Jeans, T-Shirt wear cheongsam, saree, baju kurung or baju kebaya.


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seriously dont bother this post. If she/he really honest and patriotic about this theory, then dont wear Zara, LV, Levi, Topman wear Kamdar, Masjid Jamek, Danau shirt. Dont use import car use national car. Boycott KFC, McD, Pizza Hut eat Nasi Lemak Antarabangsa, McCurry. Dont wear Tight Jeans, T-Shirt wear cheongsam, saree, baju kurung or baju kebaya.
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QUOTE(sahathai @ Nov 18 2009, 01:56 AM)
This fool is so proud to have bought a 'selipar JEPUN' from Carrefour, the FRENCH retailer.
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anything to say now dude?

QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Nov 18 2009, 02:50 AM)
seriously dont bother this post. If she/he really honest and patriotic about this theory, then dont wear Zara, LV, Levi, Topman wear Kamdar, Masjid Jamek, Danau shirt. Dont use import car use national car. Boycott KFC, McD, Pizza Hut eat Nasi Lemak Antarabangsa, McCurry. Dont wear Tight Jeans, T-Shirt wear cheongsam, saree, baju kurung or baju kebaya.
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well as u can see, in LYN if u make a new account and post crap it's very obvious.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...ult_type=topics

all the topics started are just to make fun of people.
no logic what so ever in the arguement.
definitely not gonna reply back i'm guessing.
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waah only half a day n already 3 pages in dis thread.nice one KLschoolkid.anyway as long as the people interest doesn't bother or threaten u in physically or mentally, u shouldn't try n disturbed that people interest.i understand that u only try to give opinion based on wat saw or witness but u should be careful in the future.i know u dont understand our passion watching foreign football but truth to be told,it's now become partof our culture.if u see a mamak restaurant near ur house,they dont open hindi or tamil movie(based on wat i saw),but they open foreign football games.n in mamak restaurant u will saw many people from malay,chinese n indian watching football games together.isn't good for the harmony of our country?
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Nov 17 2009, 08:39 PM)
alrite, first thing first, being a malaysian doesnt force u to support malaysian football. When u wear a Manchester United jersey in a game in Old Trafford, they will not say "Go home la", instead, they would be proud they have fans all over the world.

Let me ask u another question. Do you know who is Kobe Bryant? Do u know who is Lebron James?
Do u know any of the Malaysian basketball team player?

and OMG

with that i assume u are a girl, and wearing japanese slippers is okay. Batek sarong with no panties?? Ahahaha.....
I guess you are assuming that KLCC is a kampung ye?


Added on November 17, 2009, 8:42 pmi cant believe u go UK before ahaha... i never go UK before also but i doubt anyone that went there that saw the way they dress, u wouldnt wear slipper jepun and batik sarong to KLCC
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Boy. that shows how 'kampung' and culture shock you are even in KL.! You see, thats the difference ! your set of mentality say it all. Thank you for exposing yerself ! Ha ha ha. All i can say is this...Please dont say something that degrading yerself alrite.

Cnt you read ..spell R E A D... the context of my feedback earlier before?

Well...what can i say...i dont blame you tho.
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QUOTE(KLschoolkid @ Nov 17 2009, 06:03 PM)
Football is of course a local sports. I like play football too with my brother in the wide green field, the smell of the grass, the air, the trees, the skies....its real football i guess with massive green field.

Behind this leisure activities, its a sports, behind this sport theres a game, behind this games theres a match, behind this match theres a competition and prizes. Behind this prizes theres a industry...a sport industries. Unlike Malaysia, these sports industries had evolved far many decades in comparison. Its goes as further to advertisements campaign, sports products  from clothing, gears to food/drinks, sponsorships, contract, infrastrusture, media campaign, taxation, mercahndizing and in 1990s Britain had strategically went on robustly in their sports global marketing in brainwashing kids into the idolistism of their footbal merchandizing and products.

Well, their plan succeed. Look in Malaysia. How many are proud wearing foreign footbal jersey clubs? sadly, some even fight amongst each other due to issues of foreign footbal clubs and funnily they're not even on the so-called 'home ground' and never been there in worst case.

If foreigners like Malaysian wearing their footbal jersey clubs there in Britain say for example, do you think they wil be accepted by local Brits? One thing for sure is that they will get free-cursing by Brits like " Go home !" "What u idiots doing wearing our jersey?!", especially by hooligans or even kids.
I dare you try it in the mid of real football environment in Britain. Do you think they will perceive in this manner..." Ha?  you're from Malaysia? You know our Club? Oh...surprise...come, lets watch footbal together...welcome to Britain..." Ha ha ha...you are joker then. Either you ll get this " WTF you're doin with this jersey you F**KING SH*T ! !!! Take it off !!! Go home!!!" or you'll get a bottle smash on yer head from somewhere!

You know something, its so sad even, when theres a match between say Malaysia and brit footbal club , some malaysian even proud in wearing a jersey of that brit club...????? Mannn...its so phatetic! These people knew nothing I supposed! Worst than a cultural shock syndrome!

To the eyes of themselves of wearing foreign football jersey /products, they look or seem proud, even patch stickers to their cars!

To the foreigners themsleves seeing people not from ther home-ground worst from other countries wearing their footbal jersey and being unnecessaryly proud, they will only see these people as fools.

SO, IF YOU PEOPLE OUT THERE WISH TO GO ALL OUT ON ANY FOREIGN FOOTBALL PRODUCTS AND PROUD OF THEM , BE CAREFUL ...

AS YOU WOULD PROBABLY BEING LAUGH AS FOOLY PROUD ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE IN KL
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Keano, Keano (aka KLschoolkid) you better tend to your Tractor boys else you might find yourself relegated to managing a Coca-Cola League 1 team.
Now you will be forever reviled by all EPL fans!


Added on November 18, 2009, 3:55 amBTW I'm glad you are posting rather than rempiting around KL

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QUOTE(rebel_azri @ Nov 18 2009, 03:17 AM)
waah only half a day n already 3 pages in dis thread.nice one KLschoolkid.anyway as long as the people interest doesn't bother or threaten u in physically or mentally, u shouldn't try n disturbed that people interest.i understand that u only try to give opinion based on wat saw or witness but u should be careful in the future.i know u dont understand our passion watching foreign football but truth to be told,it's now become partof our culture.if u see a mamak restaurant near ur house,they dont open hindi or tamil movie(based on wat i saw),but they open foreign football games.n in mamak restaurant u will saw many people from malay,chinese n indian watching football games together.isn't good for the harmony of our country?
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Hi rebel_azri,
very well said, i like it. thnks fer de compliments , anyway am not feel proud of anything. and thanks fer de concern...am alrite so far, cheers mate.
to tell u the truth, am not against u boys - malaysian boys. being a malaysian miself am always back our boys. my writings simply focus on certain negative attitudes pertaining the above issue and NOT the way the sports is perceived and absorb in a positive manner ...well thats fine, and its your turf and you know better than me. i have no objection/s to such positive perceptions.

the embracement of foreign football in positive manner are just fine and could roots to beneficial sub-culture impact.
else if such embracement in negative manner and attitudes could only planting pathetic degrading sub-cultures values as a whole.

am just stating the facts ( little facts that is amongst many incidents and the way 'they (home ground supporter over there) see things and look ) in general are not as you boys had in mind am afraid .

i understand the facts that i stated earlier can be painful to some. but i guess its ought to be highlighted so as the least bringing better understanding to the difference and whats really happening in both side of the world.

Finally, any actions taken , hopefully not degrading and humiliating youself boys.

I dont want our boys to just humiliating themselves with or without they realising it.


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QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Nov 18 2009, 03:05 AM)
haha nice catch there buddy thumbup.gif
anything to say now dude?
well as u can see, in LYN if u make a new account and post crap it's very obvious.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...ult_type=topics

all the topics started are just to make fun of people.
no logic what so ever in the arguement.
definitely not gonna reply back i'm guessing.
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mmm...to sahathai...cant you read R E A D, or shall others stick it on yer forehead? whats all these personal attacking and nonsense you trying hard to pull out? ok, just to make you satisfied, the statement 'selipar jepun local product' ..cant u see? read? do u understand how so-called mega-market works? and thats another issue. a piece of advice, dnt come out with personal attack/ remarks in discussion, it only tend you to be a phatetic loser and congratulations! you just called yerself a fooly proud ... dont have medal for you boy...

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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Nov 17 2009, 09:02 PM)
if we are fools for supporting British football clubs, what is the newspaper publishers? In TheStar, normally 3 or 4 pages will be used to cover the news of EPL, Serie A, Liga BBVA . While maybe half a page is used to cover Malaysia Cup(is it..?).
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FOR once, in a long time, Malaysian football got into the front and back pages of local newspapers. And football fans managed to get their pictures splashed on the front and back pages in some dailies.
One local English daily even printed the picture of fans wearing white T-shirts with the words in red reading “WE LOVE UNITED” on both the front and back pages of the tabloid.
How nice if only it read: “WE LOVE MALAYSIA” There was a picture of a MU fan who carried a placard with the following words “Will give my sister 4 picture with OWEN” … just wonder what it meant.
Yes. English champions Manchester United were in town. They played not one but two matches. In the first match, Malaysia stole some limelight with a brace by Amri Yahyah in their 3-2 defeat.
In the second match played under cooler conditions, United walked away 2-0 winners. Tickets were a pricey RM58 for free seating and a whopping RM308 for the grandstand.
The National Stadium in Bukit Jalil was turned into a sea of red. The fans, of all ages, came out in full force and some 100,000 packed into the stadium — clad in jerseys, shorts, caps, scarfs, bandanas.
And if a report in a local daily is true, it is heartening to note that local sports journalists displayed national pride by covering the game attired in national colours.
Many of the “big bosses” in the media are ardent fans of MU, Liverpool, Arsenal but let’s not forget that they have a role to play for the country in developing sports. To these “big bosses” of the print media, sports will thrive if you can change policies in your media.
Day in and day out you get nothing in the back pages but full coverage of foreign teams, especially the English Premier League. Where is your national pride?
It is a shame that you don’t even get to see the results of the local Premier League matches in the newspapers these days while Division Two and Three results from European countries are getting space. Forget about getting any coverage for local football tournaments.
Gone are the days when budding talent in local sports used to get full coverage, complete with profiles and so on. Dollah Salleh was an unknown name but he turned out to be one of the best known left-footers in Malaysian football. Without publicity, his exploits on the field would not have made him a household name in the country.
Who can forget about Hassan Sani, James Wong, Santokh Singh, Zainal Abidin Hassan, Shukor Salleh, Namat Abdullah, Sharuddin Abdullah, Isa Bakar, Ali Bakar, Wong Choon Wah, Chow Chee Keong, Lim Fung Kee, M. Chandran, the late Mokhtar Dahari and V. Arumugam.
The list goes on. If the standard of Malaysian sports, especially football, has seen a steady drop in world rankings, the local print and electronic media must take some of the blame for that. It is a shame that local dailies have been giving up to four pages to foreign football — up two pages for English football, a page for Spanish football, a page to French or Italian football or even German football.
Why are we giving such wide coverage for foreign football? It is sad to note that the marriage or divorce of a foreign footballer can be a lead story in the Malaysian print media while a sportsman or a sportswoman in Malaysia who is suffering from an illness hardly gets into the news here.
Do we need foreign football greats getting into a brawl in a pub as role models for local consumption (reading)? It is time the local media took stock and put things in the right perspective. And the FA of Malaysia should be reminded that one good performance against the multi-millionaires (MU) does not make Malaysia world-beaters or even the best in the Southeast Asian region.
Rome was not built in a day. Keep the team together and keep K. Rajagobal. In saying that, one bad tournament does not mean the end of the world either.
Get your house in order, FAM, and get the M-League restructured to achieve the desired results. This year’s M-League fixtures were in total disarray again. Take a hard look at the kickoff time. And finally do not look for a scapegoat when things go bad.
The policymakers must walk the talk


Blaming FAM for the downward spiral of local football? In his 2008 book 'The Fix' (a good book to read to understand the malaise in Malaysian football) Declan Hill suggested possible match-fixing at the highest levels of professional association football. The main thrust of his book is that Malaysians are notoriously or infamously known for fixing worldwide matches. Malaysia Boleh.
KLscholkid has some valid points but the issues are more than that. Everything is $$$$.
Have we consider legit bookmakers especially British -Irish or English (to 'unfix'). Have we missed the Russian connections?
BTW, how many of you guys wondered why Essien was subbed out by Hidink after 'baggioing' a nice layup at the top of the box at the last CL against Barca.

Nimrod, KLschoolkid is not Newfag. doh.gif

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its so awesome to see all of the fans here uniting. Rarely we get to see this kind of things happening here. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(KLschoolkid @ Nov 18 2009, 04:59 AM)
mmm...to sahathai...cant you read R E A D, or shall others stick it on yer forehead? whats all these personal attacking and nonsense you trying hard to pull out? ok, just to make you satisfied, the statement 'selipar jepun local product' ..cant u see? read? do u understand how so-called mega-market works? and thats another issue. a piece of advice, dnt come out with personal attack/ remarks in discussion, it only tend you to be a phatetic loser and congratulations! you just called yerself a fooly proud ... dont have medal for you boy...
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Read your topic's tittle... i guess it's not a personal attack against those who support foreign clubs, at least not in your point of view..
I bet u know a lot on how a mega-market works, unfortunately, u should also know about football globalization. why did the UK's clubs spent a lot of money to set up an official fan club in foreign countries? why did they spent their lovely summer playing friendly games against very weakling Asian teams? wake up son, we're not in 60's anymore...
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QUOTE(KLschoolkid @ Nov 18 2009, 04:36 AM)
Boy. that shows how 'kampung' and culture shock you are even in KL.!  You see, thats the difference ! your set of mentality say it all. Thank you for exposing yerself ! Ha ha ha. All i can say is this...Please dont say something that degrading yerself alrite.

Cnt you read ..spell R E A D... the context of my feedback earlier before?

Well...what can i say...i dont blame you tho.
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oh rly, im so sorry my eyes couldnt see anyone wearing kampung clothing in KLCC. The kampung culture shock? Face it, who will wear kampung clothing to KLCC?
tell me who won the recent Malaysia Cup. Tell me who's injured in the Malaysia squad. Tell me who is in form in the Malaysia squad. PROVE TO ME U ARE SUPPORTING MALAYSIA FOOTBALL
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Nov 18 2009, 07:17 AM)
oh rly, im so sorry my eyes couldnt see anyone wearing kampung clothing in KLCC. The kampung culture shock? Face it, who will wear kampung clothing to KLCC?
tell me who won the recent Malaysia Cup. Tell me who's injured in the Malaysia squad. Tell me who is in form in the Malaysia squad. PROVE TO ME U ARE SUPPORTING MALAYSIA FOOTBALL
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rants here there are nothing without evidence.if you really hate those you called idiots who supporting foreign clubs,you should show us that you are a true malaysian supporter.
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its so awesome to see all of the fans here uniting. Rarely we get to see this kind of things happening here.  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(KLschoolkid @ Nov 17 2009, 06:03 PM)

If foreigners like Malaysian wearing their footbal jersey clubs there in Britain say for example, do you think they wil be accepted by local Brits? One thing for sure is that they will get free-cursing by Brits like " Go home !" "What u idiots doing wearing our jersey?!", especially by hooligans or even kids.
I dare you try it in the mid of real football environment in Britain. Do you think they will perceive in this manner..." Ha?  you're from Malaysia? You know our Club? Oh...surprise...come, lets watch footbal together...welcome to Britain..." Ha ha ha...you are joker then. Either you ll get this " WTF you're doin with this jersey you F**KING SH*T ! !!! Take it off !!! Go home!!!" or you'll get a bottle smash on yer head from somewhere!

You know something, its so sad even, when theres a match between say Malaysia and brit footbal club , some malaysian even proud in wearing a jersey of that brit club...????? Mannn...its so phatetic! These people knew nothing I supposed! Worst than a cultural shock syndrome!

To the eyes of themselves of wearing foreign football jersey /products, they look or seem proud, even patch stickers to their cars!

To the foreigners themsleves seeing people not from ther home-ground worst from other countries wearing their footbal jersey and being unnecessaryly proud, they will only see these people as fools.

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ok bro. since u put it that way. here is something u should think about. i've seen foreigners (might be british or american) wore malaysian football jersey for sightseeing. so are u going to call them a joker, fool, stupid, pathetic, cultural shock and tell them to take the jersey off and go home? hmm.gif

it's not that we didn't support our malaysian football. i still watch whenever Selangor are playing; in the stadium or from the TV. but truth be told. u get more satisfaction in watching foreign football than malaysian. i bet u even admit that don't u.
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meh...that dupe is just trolling...why u guyz take it seriously???
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meh...that dupe is just trolling...why u guyz take it seriously???
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QUOTE(visionary1993 @ Nov 18 2009, 05:00 AM)
its so awesome to see all of the fans here uniting. Rarely we get to see this kind of things happening here.  rclxms.gif
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cos you see when we talk abt football we stand with our club.
when we talk to this guy we stand on the same ground we have common sense. he has none.
LOL
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QUOTE(visionary1993 @ Nov 18 2009, 05:00 AM)
its so awesome to see all of the fans here uniting. Rarely we get to see this kind of things happening here.  rclxms.gif
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this is 1 malaysia i tell u.. rclxms.gif
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i understand ur trying to create an awereness about thing ur saw while u are away but sumtimes things work differently. it is kinda possible to change perception about things people love doing.in this life there are positive n negative aspect in all act.for example smoking.everyone knows dat smoking is bad for health but certain people doesnt want to quit coz they just love the satisfaction of smoking.same to apply to football.n read several post b4 n i notice dat ur using inappropriate words towards lyn members especially to my friend nimrod.i hope u can apologise to him. we are here to discuss n not to argue with each other.
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QUOTE(hunt2sp @ Nov 17 2009, 05:08 PM)
is dis reel, or has i rid a usless thred wit bad grmmar..??
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QUOTE(sahathai @ Nov 18 2009, 01:56 AM)
This fool is so proud to have bought a 'selipar JEPUN' from Carrefour, the FRENCH retailer.
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QUOTE(chamyk2311 @ Nov 17 2009, 05:21 PM)
hahahahaha!
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Guys, consumer products and retailers exists to make money. Football clubs also have a commercial interest, hence the need to win trophies for cash, and also to attract more global fan support.

We're talking about the national team here. Its different. There are no commercial interest, no profits whatsoever (politicians etc lain cerita la), hence that is why the argument exists that we as citizens of this country, must lend our support to the Malaysian team.
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how often could you see a local game live on TV.. Only TV 1 n 2 showing it sometimes. Be honest, who the hell watched TV1 n 2 nowadays? Even on papers sports sections the main page is anything but local football.

it FAM fault for not doing a good job promoting the league. they should works harder to look for good sponsors. the quality went down when they pulled dunhill out from the sponsors.. the salary probs in most of the football team doesn't help either.

we have plenty of good players.. no doubt. only the management sucks IMHO. change the FAM then slowly rebuild it back.
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QUOTE(KLschoolkid @ Nov 18 2009, 03:59 AM)

mmm...to sahathai...cant you read R E A D, or shall others stick it on yer forehead? whats all these personal attacking and nonsense you trying hard to pull out? ok, just to make you satisfied, the statement 'selipar jepun local product' ..cant u see? read? do u understand how so-called mega-market works? and thats another issue. a piece of advice, dnt come out with personal attack/ remarks in discussion, it only tend you to be a phatetic loser and congratulations! you just called yerself a fooly proud ... dont have medal for you boy...
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Obviously you're making a fool of yourself... laugh.gif
For someone to ask others dont juz make personal attack/remarks, but then you insist they're loser/dumbass/what-so-ever-piece-of-crap.
You cant even dare to debate/argue someone's point of view, juz "read it moronz...", what's the point asking others to read it??
Surely u're lacking love/attention from FAMA, that's why seeking some attentions here without any understanding on what football is..

If supporting a foreign club or wearing their merchandise is pathetic, why dont you give us some points on why we've to support our local clubs which can surf as a promoting purpose as well..

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already he got one thread closed by a mod.
simple - just click the report button.
so he can go make a new account and come back to make new topics.

btw, your spelling is horrible.
pls improve your english before u start posting here.
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QUOTE(rushmode @ Nov 18 2009, 02:17 PM)
it FAM fault for not doing a good job promoting the league. they should works harder to look for good sponsors. the quality went down when they pulled dunhill out from the sponsors.. the salary probs in most of the football team doesn't help either.

we have plenty of good players.. no doubt. only the management sucks IMHO. change the FAM then slowly rebuild it back.
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People have been calling for FAM management to quit for so long, but they just dig their heels deeper and refuse to budge, then after a while with all the corruption, racism and incompetence in local football, most people just don't bother anymore.
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eh...y u bought selipar JEPUN at CARAFOUR?

Not selipar MALAYSIA at KEDAI LIM?
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QUOTE(cic.lemur @ Nov 19 2009, 10:28 AM)
People have been calling for FAM management to quit for so long, but they just dig their heels deeper and refuse to budge, then after a while with all the corruption, racism and incompetence in local football, most people just don't bother anymore.
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No, it has gone downhill since mid-90's after all the corruptions were revealed. Not only that, the mentality of our 'boys' are too shallow. Rather to play in the so-called "super league" rather than to make a name in Bundesliga(Div 2 tho).
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He/She has a point. And it is true if you run into some hooligans, that might be your fate. There 90% chances it won't happen.

But we can stop idiots feeling at home. There no rule saying you can't support something you adore. Manchester, Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea be it. It something nicer than Malaysia. Why ?

It is just our culture. We have no backbone. Our politician ask us to be 1 Malaysia? But the brutal truth of history shows we have been run over and over again. From the Portuguse, Dutch, Bugis, English, Japanese and anyone who just felt like conquering our geographical area. Heck, the person who started Malacca came from Indonesia. Blessed with the ignorant mindset, we get excited seeing something new. We surrender if being threat. We let it be just to be safe.

So let us be idiots. When Manchester come let us support them instead of our country. Afterall issit worth fighting for?
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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ Nov 19 2009, 12:52 PM)
No, it has gone downhill since mid-90's after all the corruptions were revealed. Not only that, the mentality of our 'boys' are too shallow. Rather to play in the so-called "super league" rather than to make a name in Bundesliga(Div 2 tho).
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who exactly do you mean by choosing to play in local league rather than germany? i forgot la their name

QUOTE(ponomariov @ Nov 19 2009, 01:03 PM)
He/She has a point. And it is true if you run into some hooligans, that might be your fate. There 90% chances it won't happen.

But we can stop idiots feeling at home. There no rule saying you can't support something you adore. Manchester, Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea be it. It something nicer than Malaysia. Why ?

It is just our culture. We have no backbone. Our politician ask us to be 1 Malaysia? But the brutal truth of history shows we have been run over and over again. From the Portuguse, Dutch, Bugis, English, Japanese and anyone who just felt like conquering our geographical area. Heck, the person who started Malacca came from Indonesia. Blessed with the ignorant mindset, we get excited seeing something new. We surrender if being threat. We let it be just to be safe.

So let us be idiots. When Manchester come let us support them instead of our country. Afterall issit worth fighting for?
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i think you are over the top by bringing the colonial powers and parameswara into football matters. the "idiots" as you called them acted like that because they were exposed to BPL way too much while there's nothing to cheer about local football. it's nothing to do with backbone.. etc etc.. well maybe lacking patriotism spirit but.. chill dude biggrin.gif

like i said, improved the quality of our league and better marketing it will be alive again like it once did in the past.

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The only thing TS is successful is : Attempting to troll us football fans.

If what you saying is true, go bring this up to our Ministry of Sports lo.

Next time we bash and curse those Non-Malaysians who sit our Proton car, eat our nasi lemak, support out Lee Chong Wei, ya, TS?

BTW, The ang moh people should be killing us already because we all using almost everything from abroad, including cars/electronic gadgets/vehicle/etc. tongue.gif
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Maybe government also earn money if we buy jerseys from foreign countries... Kastam tax..?

-btw, where is TS? In KLCC with her selipar JEPUN from CARREFOUR?
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if the avatar is u, wah quite hot girl ah... <- referring to the TS

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i for one support this..
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if the avatar is u, wah quite hot girl ah... <- referring to the TS

moronic opinion but hot girl nonetheless smile.gif
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QUOTE(rushmode @ Nov 19 2009, 02:04 PM)
who exactly do you mean by choosing to play in local league rather than germany? i forgot la their name

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akmal rizal & one more dude..
last time the local papers reported that they came back to play for they states but there are reports saying that their contracts were not extended.
IMO, they didnt fight for it hard enuf since they're already sort like 'national heroes' during that time..

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QUOTE(sahathai @ Nov 18 2009, 12:56 AM)
This fool is so proud to have bought a 'selipar JEPUN' from Carrefour, the FRENCH retailer.
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mmm....cant you read R E A D, or shall others stick it on yer forehead? whats all these personal attacking and nonsense you trying hard to pull out? ok, just to make you satisfied, the statement 'selipar jepun local product' ..cant u see? read? do u understand how so-called mega-market works? and thats another issue. a piece of advice, dnt come out with personal attack/ remarks in discussion, it only tend you to be a phatetic loser and congratulations! you just called yerself a fooly proud ... dont have medal for you boy...


Added on November 22, 2009, 1:26 am
QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Nov 19 2009, 12:25 AM)
already he got one thread closed by a mod.
simple - just click the report button.
so he can go make a new account and come back to make new topics.

btw, your spelling is horrible.
pls improve your english before u start posting here.
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ho nimrod2...my reply meant for " shahathai' not you am afraid. it's due to yer post to me with his/her attachment, so did i gave the feedback within yer such post to me.

reagrds to yer friend rebel_azri(?) ta!

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damit, i still cant understand wat this means

"mmm....cant you read R E A D, or shall others stick it on yer forehead? whats all these personal attacking and nonsense you trying hard to pull out? ok, just to make you satisfied, the statement 'selipar jepun local product' ..cant u see? read? do u understand how so-called mega-market works? and thats another issue. a piece of advice, dnt come out with personal attack/ remarks in discussion, it only tend you to be a phatetic loser and congratulations! you just called yerself a fooly proud ... dont have medal for you boy..."



This is a forum. U cant just talk to someone. Like that u use the PM function. Otherwise, you post it on a thread for discussion



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Awesome smile.gif

No offence against the football part but

the awesome is for the part where u dont wear panties to KLCC smile.gif
nice smile.gif

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QUOTE(leymar7 @ Nov 18 2009, 12:52 PM)
KID...Understand this post up here

maxis 3g,pet wonderland..ape lagi?? doh.gif  retard...doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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so? wheres yer contibution here. ? if you just want to crying out loud exposing yer stupidity here, then go back to your kampong. unedrstand? dont get it dont you? i dnt blame u tho...


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QUOTE(madfag @ Nov 17 2009, 05:20 PM)
you're a moron. these big clubs has fans all over the world. not just Malaysia. what does that make them? they too get bashed if they go to UK? i'd support local clubs too if they'd up their standards. problem is, the local games arent as interesting to watch compared to premier league games.
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so? wheres yer contibution here. ? if you just want to crying out loud exposing yer stupidity here, then go back to your kampong. unedrstand? dont get it dont you? i dnt blame u tho...


Added on November 22, 2009, 1:36 am
QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 17 2009, 05:42 PM)
you're a friggin moron.

is an englishman managing the england national team?
while a real englishman is managing the thai team instead.

the top 4 premier league teams also dont have english managers.
heck, the last english manager to win the premier league / 1st division was howard kendall way way back in 1987.

likewise, all the africans, spanish, french, italian playing in the english league are also not welcomed? same with the other leagues around?

anyway what are u wearing right now? nike? levis? oakleys? puma?
why dont u wear asadi? uhh what else are local ripoff brands?
sp stop being a fool yourself.
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so? wheres yer contibution here. ?
u not even understand the context

if you just want to just crying out loud exposing yer utmost stupidity here, then go back to your kampong. unedrstand? dont get it dont you? i dnt blame u tho...

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You've got a blog or something ??
i am intrested to read the things you write
very different from others awesome
you will be sucessful in life cause of your difference in mentality
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Nov 22 2009, 12:29 AM)
damit, i still cant understand wat this means

"mmm....cant you read R E A D, or shall others stick it on yer forehead? whats all these personal attacking and nonsense you trying hard to pull out? ok, just to make you satisfied, the statement 'selipar jepun local product' ..cant u see? read? do u understand how so-called mega-market works? and thats another issue. a piece of advice, dnt come out with personal attack/ remarks in discussion, it only tend you to be a phatetic loser and congratulations! you just called yerself a fooly proud ... dont have medal for you boy..."
This is a forum. U cant just talk to someone. Like that u use the PM function. Otherwise, you post it on a thread for discussion
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read the threads! if they couldnt take it , then why started it . am just giving their own medicine. anyway what r u trying to prove within this mere discussions?


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QUOTE(KLshcoolkid @ Nov 22 2009, 02:44 AM)
read the threads! if they couldnt take it , then why started it . am just giving  their own medicine. anyway what r u trying to prove within this mere discussions?
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givin us our own medicine,ya? So, is this what we did? Did we open a thread to trash Malaysia football for you to open one that classifies foreign football to the dark side?

And one piece of advice for you, improve your grammar before posting such a long whine. Use "I" if needed. Dont just "am around" without your "I". Not to say that you need a bachelor degree for english before posting but at least use the type of english where we can all understand. You can use Malay too if you want to.
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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ Nov 18 2009, 11:13 PM)
Obviously you're making a fool of yourself... laugh.gif
For someone to ask others dont juz make personal attack/remarks, but then you insist they're loser/dumbass/what-so-ever-piece-of-crap.
You cant even dare to debate/argue someone's point of view, juz "read it moronz...", what's the point asking others to read it??
Surely u're lacking love/attention from FAMA, that's why seeking some attentions here without any understanding on what football is..

If supporting a foreign club or wearing their merchandise is pathetic, why dont you give us some points on why we've to support our local clubs which can surf as a promoting purpose as well..
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again, READ and trace the threads. understand the context and scope of the subject! this a discussion portal and u proudly tend to claimed it to debate? mmm...okayyyyy... if so, then wheres yer contribution here? i'd suggest you to get yerself within the subject, obviously you failed! and yet you have the guts to call others moron. mmm well, it do reflects yer mentality here, what is proven here is that you are the one sad cowardly utmost moron

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mmm, i got no business with you
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QUOTE(hsi3nrhu @ Nov 22 2009, 01:37 AM)
You've got a blog or something ??
i am intrested to read the things you write
very different from others awesome
you will be sucessful in life cause of your difference in mentality
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i would like to read too..i dont see it as stupid statement. i see it as different perspective of view too see thing in other angle which i can say you are among the rare people to have the gut and dare to post it here..should you have any blog, please share
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Congratulation for blocking me out. It’s indeed a chicken out act by you. Ha ha ha

Anyway , don’t worry , this is the newly created ones, but agin don’t worry, I’ll not going to bother you again.Just to put up some note especially to those still couldn’t get it …mmmmm….sad innit…

Okay…Remember the keywords:
=International sport Business industries
=Cultures Local & Abroad
= Attitudes

International muliti billion euro business sport industries used their controlled tools like mainstream media, sport products manufacturer –fr. global tv, advertising, magazines, newspaper/tabloids - all in creating the trend or culture of consumerism. Why? Because it’s a business. It got nothing to do with the football cultures in any specific location/ region, its just mainly a profit-driven global business. One of the many ways to capture a huge massive profit worldwide is through merchandizing like Jerseys (one sample to make it clear here).How to get everybody spend their money and buying these jersey? Easy, they pictured everything to look good and beautiful. They create dreams. They create things so you become proud in buying them. They create stories about world are all into it and everybody must have one. They feed false cultures. They create events to heat up the ‘divide and conquer’ games amongst yerself . They selling dreams. They only want you to chase the dreams they’re selling, to buy the product they’re selling, all over again and again…every season and every year. So you guys would prolonged arguing debating amongst each other while keep on crawling and buying what they feed you.

Culturally (not business …just to remind you on separate issues here) – to undermine the domino impact of robust marketing towards local cultures in relevant to this issue.

a.In Malaysia

…So, people who swallow without thinking just crawl for the products , dream of the products, squeeze to buy the products, wearing them, being proud, patch up stickers to their cars or here and there, Proud and bragging, show each othetr that they get the ‘originals’, show each other that they ‘re so and so supporters or fanatical supporters, and they think they know everything about the clubs and the football whilst they actually been manipulated very very easy fell into victim of multi billion euro marketing industries.They think that all the worlds are into it. They think that there’re part of the family of original foreign home ground supporters. They never to whether think they would be acceptable or otherwise. They think that if the foreign home grd supporter saw them wearing their jersey, they will greet you and overwhelmed to learn that “wow you’re also supporter of our team? Wow…how nice, what a surprised…where is Malaysia…bla bla bla”
Some even dream of getting themselves to lick the foreign home ground stadium.
They also wearing the jersey without acceptable event.

b.In home ground foreign turf.

Its their homeground team. Their neighbourhood. Their stadium. They ‘re born in this place. It their ‘things’ culturally. They don’t accept others. Its their turfs. Its so protective Its their jersey their home jersey. They know when and where to wear and put on their jersey on.. ( note: jersey are dirt cheap there).They have very strong community in protecting their turfs, their home supporters, they sing their own song …various local songs suited certain events. They sing along, they drink along, protect along some in very nasty way, they watch their turf, they watch each other and almost they know each other and connect fairly easy to who and who. Over there, football is not just the game, the management, the home ground investment and flagship. Its some way as ritual for them, its for their home ground. It covers the other side of the surface itself. Its their blood. Its about underground world of football organization.

Cross CultureExamine(facts)

The original foreign homeground supporter - They don’t give a toss if you’re reaching your dreams coming over to their homeground wearing their jerseys hoping for recognition and greetings or welcome from them or waiting for home grd supporter offer drinks to you as you think you’re the same supporter from Malaysia’ You dream and you hope and crying.

The reality is they don’t give a toss where you come from. They don’t need you. They don’t even want you. Who are you to wear their homeground jerseys? Who’re you to sing their homegrond song? Who’re you to get into their pubs and be with the homegrond crowds? So , what are you doing with their jerseys? Because you ‘ve been totally been manipulated, abused, cheated, believe what the business industries had feed you, what the business industries had been telling you, what the business industrieshad been selling you …selling you with dreams, selling you with psychological info so you become proud, so you must buy their products, their jerseys, you become proud, you buy stickers and patch up to yer vehicles, you become proud so you brag to the world that you are ‘so and so’ supporter , you become proud to support the team which is thousands of miles away from you, the place you don’t know nothing about, the culture you don’t know nothing about, the people you don’t know nothing about, the roots you don’t know nothing about. The only thing that you know or think that you know is what the business industries feed you…that’s it by actually you know nothing except been screwed!

You been screwed so loose that even you pathetically wearing their jerseys in a match with your own national team. This would not be taken place or happened in their home country! It’s a shameful disgusting act even in their home country where the foreign club exist which the jersey you’re proudly wearing or put on. They were just laughing at you, don’t you see? Have you watch any of this match tv coverage in their country? How humiliating the coverage, even more humiliating when they aired the view/scene of Malaysians wearing one of their local home football club in a match against Malaysia ! How disgusting!~ What the feedback from them?from the people there? “ they’re just laughing out loud coz You are idiots, you’re dumb ass…you see? It’s a damn joke! And yet you feel proud wearing those foreign jersey ? Gosh!

You see? You get the picture now? You get these attitudes?

Well, its okay if you wish to pursue with it.and continue humiliating yerself. The original foreign homeground supporters would say to you straight in yer face” whose this monkey idiots doin here with our jersey!!!?”and its not free as you spend hundreds of rinngit to get those remarkable acknowledgements.

Either way, if you’re pursuing wearing them with such attitudes in KL ,then just to let you know that you only humiliating yerself in front of KL community.

Coz

You’re FOOLY PROUD OF NOTHING.

da da da da da


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QUOTE(KLshcoolkid @ Nov 22 2009, 02:56 AM)
again, READ and trace the threads. understand the context and scope of the subject! this a discussion portal and u proudly tend to claimed it to debate? mmm...okayyyyy... if so, then wheres yer contribution here? i'd suggest you to get yerself within the subject, obviously you failed! and yet you have the guts to call others moron. mmm well,  it do reflects yer mentality here, what is proven here is that you are the one sad  cowardly utmost moron



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give me the differences between a debate and discussion.

I'll give u its similarities,
1. both of them requires u to give ur personal opinion
2. you stand on 1 side and u defend ur side.

Stop asking us to read the thread. The level of your english is terrible and to understand the whole thing, its hard. Make it clear, we are trying to point out something to you, and you are constantly avoiding it by saying "Read again". Personally from me(though its not important) he wasnt off topic at all.
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At first I wanted to give you a 3/10 KLschoolkid, I thought you're a horrible troll.

But looking at the number of people that have already been trolled, 7/10 would be my last verdict.

Good effort in my opinion.
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QUOTE(KLshcoolkid @ Nov 22 2009, 03:00 AM)
Congratulation for blocking me out.  It’s indeed a chicken out act by you. Ha ha ha

Anyway , don’t worry , this is the newly created ones, but agin don’t worry, I’ll not going to bother you again.Just to put up some note especially to those still couldn’t get it …mmmmm….sad innit…

Okay…Remember the keywords:
=International sport Business industries
=Cultures Local & Abroad
= Attitudes

International muliti billion euro business sport industries used their controlled tools like mainstream media, sport products manufacturer –fr.  global tv, advertising, magazines, newspaper/tabloids  - all in creating the trend or culture of consumerism. Why? Because it’s a business. It got nothing to do with the football cultures in any specific location/ region, its just mainly a profit-driven global business.  One of the many ways to capture a huge massive profit worldwide is through merchandizing like Jerseys (one sample to make it clear here).How to get everybody spend their money and buying  these jersey? Easy, they pictured  everything to look good and beautiful. They create dreams. They create things so you become proud in buying them. They create stories about world are all into it and everybody must have one. They feed false cultures.  They create events to heat up the ‘divide and conquer’ games  amongst yerself . They selling dreams. They only want you to chase the dreams they’re selling, to buy the product they’re selling, all over again and again…every season and every year. So you guys would prolonged arguing debating amongst each other while keep on crawling and buying what they feed you.

Culturally (not business …just to remind you on separate issues here) – to undermine the domino  impact of robust marketing towards local cultures in relevant to this issue.

a.In Malaysia 

…So, people who swallow without thinking just crawl for the products , dream of the products, squeeze to buy the products, wearing them, being proud, patch up stickers to their cars or here and there, Proud and  bragging, show each othetr that they get the ‘originals’, show each other that they ‘re so and so supporters or fanatical supporters, and they think they know everything about the clubs and the football whilst they actually been manipulated very very easy fell into victim of multi billion euro marketing industries.They think that all the worlds are into it. They think that there’re part of the family of original foreign home ground supporters. They never to whether think they would be acceptable or otherwise. They think that if the foreign home grd supporter saw them wearing their jersey, they will greet you and overwhelmed to learn that “wow you’re also supporter of our team? Wow…how nice, what a surprised…where is Malaysia…bla bla bla”
Some even dream of getting themselves to lick the foreign home ground stadium.
They also wearing the jersey without acceptable event.

b.In home ground foreign turf.

Its their homeground team. Their neighbourhood. Their stadium. They ‘re born in this place. It their ‘things’ culturally. They don’t accept others. Its their turfs. Its so protective  Its their jersey their home jersey. They know when and where  to wear and put on their jersey on.. ( note: jersey are dirt cheap there).They have very strong community in protecting their turfs, their home supporters, they sing their own song …various local songs suited certain events. They sing along, they drink along, protect along some in very nasty way, they watch their turf, they watch each other and almost they know each other and connect fairly easy to who and who. Over there, football is not just the game, the management, the home ground investment and flagship. Its some way as ritual for them, its for their home ground. It covers the other side of the surface itself. Its their blood. Its about underground world of football organization.

Cross CultureExamine(facts)

The original foreign homeground supporter - They don’t give a toss if you’re reaching your dreams coming over to their homeground wearing their jerseys hoping for recognition and greetings or welcome from them or waiting for home grd supporter offer drinks to you as you think you’re the same supporter from Malaysia’ You dream and you hope and crying.

The reality is they don’t give a toss where you come from. They don’t need you. They don’t even want you. Who are you to wear their homeground jerseys? Who’re you to sing their homegrond song? Who’re you to get into their pubs and be with the homegrond crowds? So , what are you doing with their jerseys? Because you ‘ve been totally been  manipulated, abused, cheated,  believe what the business industries had feed you, what the business industries had been telling you, what the business industrieshad been selling you …selling you with dreams, selling you with psychological info so you become proud, so you must buy their products, their jerseys, you become proud, you buy stickers and patch up to yer vehicles, you become proud so you brag to the world that you are ‘so and so’ supporter , you become proud to support the team which is thousands of miles away from you, the place you don’t know nothing about, the culture you don’t know nothing about, the people you don’t know nothing about, the roots you don’t know nothing about. The only thing that you know or think that you know is what the business industries feed you…that’s it by actually you know nothing except been screwed!

You been screwed so loose that even you pathetically wearing their jerseys in a match with your own national team. This would not be taken place or happened in their home country! It’s a shameful disgusting act even in their home country where the foreign club exist which the jersey you’re proudly wearing or put on. They were just laughing at you, don’t you see? Have you watch any of this match tv coverage in their country? How humiliating the coverage, even more humiliating when they aired the view/scene of Malaysians wearing one of their local home football club in a match against Malaysia ! How disgusting!~ What the feedback from them?from the people there?  “ they’re just laughing out loud  coz You are idiots, you’re dumb ass…you see? It’s a damn joke!  And yet you feel proud wearing those foreign jersey ? Gosh!

You see? You get the picture now? You get these attitudes?

Well, its okay if you wish to pursue with it.and continue humiliating yerself. The original foreign homeground supporters would say to you straight in yer face” whose this monkey idiots doin here with our jersey!!!?”and its not free as you spend hundreds of rinngit to get those remarkable acknowledgements.

Either way, if you’re pursuing wearing them with such attitudes in KL ,then just to let you know that you only humiliating yerself in front of KL community.

Coz

You’re FOOLY PROUD OF NOTHING.

da da da da da
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Wow, where did you copy that long essay from? Suddenly!! Suddenly, u have a lvl of english where i can understand.

Back to what u copy pasted,

What do u mean, foreign club football manipulate us? You mean you admit that foreign football gives a better kick than local football and therefore is more able to play with our mind?? You know, jerseys can be wore like a normal shirt when you go out. Its not necessary made for football events only

Home ground turf, NONSENSE. Pure NONSENSE. If you cant use or wear a foreign-manufactured item such as a foreign football club jersey, then try not wearing any foreign brands on ur clothing. Dont wear Billabong pants, dont wear Adidas sneakers. You are probably hanging your Gucci handbag beside your computer now.

Your 3rd point was just a beat around the bush from your first post. Like what some of the forummers said and proved. U never been to UK before. Whats wrong with wearing a Manchester United jesey when u are Malaysian? They wont bash you up for that. And we are not buying dreams. We are watching football for entertainment. We are buying the product as a prove of support to the club, not to brag about the "original'nest" of a jersey. Turn this around, if you see an Englishman wearing a malaysian club jersey, what will you do to him? Laugh at him for buying our dreams?

I'm sorry if my vulgar hurts you, i have jus lost my patience upon reading this
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Either way, if you’re pursuing wearing them with such attitudes in KL ,then just to let you know that you only humiliating yerself in front of KL community.

WHAT THE FU*K!? You are a FU*KING KL citizen that lives in a stone. KL people are much more open than how u describe them. They dont stare at people with a bent mind that discriminate people who support foreign club. The only reason i'm being mad is because I am a KL citizen and that sentence is downgrading us.


--- if the government thinks that its wrong to support foreign football, they can just propose a law to block all the broadcast of foreign football on TV and on the newspaper. They're not doing it because they think far. They dont just think of "Oh no, no one watch Malaysia football anymore" "Oh, we are being humiliated for wearing football jersey".


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QUOTE(hsi3nrhu @ Nov 22 2009, 12:37 AM)
You've got a blog or something ??
i am intrested to read the things you write
very different from others awesome
you will be sucessful in life cause of your difference in mentality
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Hi there,

Pls dont get me wrong. Am merely highlighted and stating the facts pertaining the issue within various different angle and perspectives.
Yes i do have few other blogs/website (only in active mode occasionally as am still studying and always backpack globally), few however had been attacked by Zionist Illuminati agents as my works exposing their effort including their new world order agenda. Am totally against new world order, and whether you realize it or not, Malaysia is currently under hefty attack (am not kidding) by Zionist Illuminati. Let me recall " IS ".

anyway, just email me asap. Take care.

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can you pm me ur blog links ??
i really like how you see things differently
its hard to get to see people like this
it is true that we are brought up and is under influences of the media exposures of the higher power
we are thought to think what "they" want us to think
I wont mind sharing a few topics but i wont mid reading a few as well

It is hard to find people like you
so please do let me know ur views

P.s. i Am more twisted than all of you smile.gif


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Wow long argument.

My stand on this?

I rather not watch football then to watch thrash from our local leagues whistling.gif

I felt there was some hope when MPPJ did well and got pretty huge funding. But they blew it and then the most ridiculous rule of all banning foreigners came into play ... i just loled

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It seems that my account had been purposely blocked for no reason.

Meaning some people are real chicken out to face me and face the facts i stated pertaining negative attitude of some as in my first text.and it's all now so obvious.

anyway, thanks for let me real having fun here.

1)to those with positive attitude and open mind, cheers mate!

2)but to those who're cant take the facts and pain in positive manner and always turning this discussion into debate, with zero contribution, hollow
perspective, failed to capture the context, yet exposed yerself as phatetic loser and only managed to come out with personal attack on me...well to these sort of people, i thank you nevertheless for let me having fun time kicking you around! ha ha ha ; as for these people as you cant even understand about live out of the box even, again let alone manage or even try 'em. thats typical kampung wannabes in KL. sad. you're no match to me and to KL orginals boys/girls even. these type of people only know to crying out loud cursing without essence, and when we gave them their own medicines, they will crying even louder in their utmost stupidity and it smells stink.well, for those who're forwarding bad words to me, you 're just speak for your ownself and cursing your ownself. These people...they are just humiliating and degrading themselves. its so sad. I dont want to know them.

Well...
Your time is out now .
since you blocked me out. since you chicken out. you no need to blocked me for the 2nd .time. it clearly shows yer 'sub-culture'.Shame !after this ,

I'll leave you mingled this topic amongst yer own kind within your thick box. nobody care.

My jobs done.

And the conclusion above ...READ it!

mmm, fer yer info, in case any of you not satisfied and feel peace in mind and soul and wish to face me personally, i'll be in KLIA monday night. euro flight. you can easily spot me as in my photo here.

Lastly, folks...get rid of inferiority complex to others alright, shall u have it.When engaging with something u not sure, study 'em first, dnt easily crying out loud without understanding the context, the least do bit of SWOT analysis... most of u boys are 'sportsman/woman'? or...not understand?

Bye everybody...and dont forget to smile.

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this thread is objectiveless, going nowhere,so-personal, full of useless argument....

i propose this thread to be closed. fullstop.
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QUOTE(KLshcoolkid @ Nov 22 2009, 02:00 AM)
Congratulation for blocking me out.  It’s indeed a chicken out act by you. Ha ha ha

Anyway , don’t worry , this is the newly created ones, but agin don’t worry, I’ll not going to bother you again.Just to put up some note especially to those still couldn’t get it …mmmmm….sad innit…

Okay…Remember the keywords:
=International sport Business industries
=Cultures Local & Abroad
= Attitudes

International muliti billion euro business sport industries used their controlled tools like mainstream media, sport products manufacturer –fr.  global tv, advertising, magazines, newspaper/tabloids  - all in creating the trend or culture of consumerism. Why? Because it’s a business. It got nothing to do with the football cultures in any specific location/ region, its just mainly a profit-driven global business.  One of the many ways to capture a huge massive profit worldwide is through merchandizing like Jerseys (one sample to make it clear here).How to get everybody spend their money and buying  these jersey? Easy, they pictured  everything to look good and beautiful. They create dreams. They create things so you become proud in buying them. They create stories about world are all into it and everybody must have one. They feed false cultures.  They create events to heat up the ‘divide and conquer’ games  amongst yerself . They selling dreams. They only want you to chase the dreams they’re selling, to buy the product they’re selling, all over again and again…every season and every year. So you guys would prolonged arguing debating amongst each other while keep on crawling and buying what they feed you.

Culturally (not business …just to remind you on separate issues here) – to undermine the domino  impact of robust marketing towards local cultures in relevant to this issue.

a.In Malaysia 

…So, people who swallow without thinking just crawl for the products , dream of the products, squeeze to buy the products, wearing them, being proud, patch up stickers to their cars or here and there, Proud and  bragging, show each othetr that they get the ‘originals’, show each other that they ‘re so and so supporters or fanatical supporters, and they think they know everything about the clubs and the football whilst they actually been manipulated very very easy fell into victim of multi billion euro marketing industries.They think that all the worlds are into it. They think that there’re part of the family of original foreign home ground supporters. They never to whether think they would be acceptable or otherwise. They think that if the foreign home grd supporter saw them wearing their jersey, they will greet you and overwhelmed to learn that “wow you’re also supporter of our team? Wow…how nice, what a surprised…where is Malaysia…bla bla bla”
Some even dream of getting themselves to lick the foreign home ground stadium.
They also wearing the jersey without acceptable event.

b.In home ground foreign turf.

Its their homeground team. Their neighbourhood. Their stadium. They ‘re born in this place. It their ‘things’ culturally. They don’t accept others. Its their turfs. Its so protective  Its their jersey their home jersey. They know when and where  to wear and put on their jersey on.. ( note: jersey are dirt cheap there).They have very strong community in protecting their turfs, their home supporters, they sing their own song …various local songs suited certain events. They sing along, they drink along, protect along some in very nasty way, they watch their turf, they watch each other and almost they know each other and connect fairly easy to who and who. Over there, football is not just the game, the management, the home ground investment and flagship. Its some way as ritual for them, its for their home ground. It covers the other side of the surface itself. Its their blood. Its about underground world of football organization.

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The original foreign homeground supporter - They don’t give a toss if you’re reaching your dreams coming over to their homeground wearing their jerseys hoping for recognition and greetings or welcome from them or waiting for home grd supporter offer drinks to you as you think you’re the same supporter from Malaysia’ You dream and you hope and crying.

The reality is they don’t give a toss where you come from. They don’t need you. They don’t even want you. Who are you to wear their homeground jerseys? Who’re you to sing their homegrond song? Who’re you to get into their pubs and be with the homegrond crowds? So , what are you doing with their jerseys? Because you ‘ve been totally been  manipulated, abused, cheated,  believe what the business industries had feed you, what the business industries had been telling you, what the business industrieshad been selling you …selling you with dreams, selling you with psychological info so you become proud, so you must buy their products, their jerseys, you become proud, you buy stickers and patch up to yer vehicles, you become proud so you brag to the world that you are ‘so and so’ supporter , you become proud to support the team which is thousands of miles away from you, the place you don’t know nothing about, the culture you don’t know nothing about, the people you don’t know nothing about, the roots you don’t know nothing about. The only thing that you know or think that you know is what the business industries feed you…that’s it by actually you know nothing except been screwed!

You been screwed so loose that even you pathetically wearing their jerseys in a match with your own national team. This would not be taken place or happened in their home country! It’s a shameful disgusting act even in their home country where the foreign club exist which the jersey you’re proudly wearing or put on. They were just laughing at you, don’t you see? Have you watch any of this match tv coverage in their country? How humiliating the coverage, even more humiliating when they aired the view/scene of Malaysians wearing one of their local home football club in a match against Malaysia ! How disgusting!~ What the feedback from them?from the people there?  “ they’re just laughing out loud  coz You are idiots, you’re dumb ass…you see? It’s a damn joke!  And yet you feel proud wearing those foreign jersey ? Gosh!

You see? You get the picture now? You get these attitudes?

Well, its okay if you wish to pursue with it.and continue humiliating yerself. The original foreign homeground supporters would say to you straight in yer face” whose this monkey idiots doin here with our jersey!!!?”and its not free as you spend hundreds of rinngit to get those remarkable acknowledgements.

Either way, if you’re pursuing wearing them with such attitudes in KL ,then just to let you know that you only humiliating yerself in front of KL community.

Coz

You’re FOOLY PROUD OF NOTHING.

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klschoolkid, i can see u have da indon mentality. u know?

this kind of epl vs country thing only exist in east asia. In europe , they dun play club againts country. And what is the reason for epl clubs to come to Malaysia? behind the scene, of course it is about money. Above the scene, it is about supporters. So those supporters wear their jersey as a sign of support. I bet all those supporters will be happy regardless of how much is the score, or who win the match. Its just a paradox.

U need to see from both side to know what i am talking about. else, u have the indon mentality.

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Personally I don't really want to comment too much on this issue.. Why? Football is a hobby and meant for fun, why so serious? Who cares if we wear whatever jersey.... It doesn't make the person less patriotic or what.... Why so serious.

I just want to say that I disagree this statement:

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The reality is they don’t give a toss where you come from. They don’t need you. They don’t even want you. Who are you to wear their homeground jerseys? Who’re you to sing their homegrond song? Who’re you to get into their pubs and be with the homegrond crowds? So , what are you doing with their jerseys? Because you ‘ve been totally been  manipulated, abused, cheated,  believe what the business industries had feed you, what the business industries had been telling you, what the business industrieshad been selling you …selling you with dreams, selling you with psychological info so you become proud, so you must buy their products, their jerseys, you become proud, you buy stickers and patch up to yer vehicles, you become proud so you brag to the world that you are ‘so and so’ supporter , you become proud to support the team which is thousands of miles away from you, the place you don’t know nothing about, the culture you don’t know nothing about, the people you don’t know nothing about, the roots you don’t know nothing about. The only thing that you know or think that you know is what the business industries feed you…that’s it by actually you know nothing except been screwed!
How do you know they don't need us?

Why is Real Madrid interested on the Asian market? Why did Florentino Perez thinkered on the idea of moving the broadcast timeline to suit the Asian timezone?

Why did some clubs like United encourage the participation of foreign fans? Introducing the One United scheme to attract more foreign fans. Introducing manutd.com.kr and manutd.com.jp

And don't you think that there is an opportunity for us as well from our behalf. Airasia being sponsors for the EPL refs and United? Aren't we also taking advantage as well? Are the brits idiots because they have sponsors from a Malaysia company?

How do you know that the fans there don't accept us? I lived in England once, I know how they view us. Heck, in England also.. United fans come from many districts in UK. They have fans from Ireland who make daytime trips, Cockney fans from London etc etc... Do the local United fans from Salford, Bury etc etc reject their presence?

About your anger on the Malaysia fans who wore United jerseys to watch the Man Utd vs Malaysia game.. Did the United fans boo Amri Yahyah when he scored? Who cheered the Malaysian team? Were they booed? Don't question the fan's patriotism because they wore United jerseys. It's a chance for them to show that they support United and also a fair opportunity for them to see their beloved team live.

I have United mates who went to the match and wore the Malaysian jersey. A friend of mine even wore both (the Malaysian jersey inside the United jersey). I was planning to DIY a two half Malaysian + Man Utd jersey (but I canceled because I could find the right size for my malaysian jersey).

If you think that it's a shame then... fair enough, that's your point of view. Don't expect others to agree.... But don't make statements that you think you know what other people's opinion are. Like your statement that "they don't need you'. Who told you? What proof you have. Share the proof first that 'they don't need us' first before you stake your claim. Like what I normally do, when I say a jersey is fake or not, I publish photos as proof.. Only then people accept my opinion and judgement.. and also respect my views.



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QUOTE(schmeichel7 @ Nov 22 2009, 12:15 PM)
Why is Real Madrid interested on the Asian market? Why did Florentino Perez thinkered on the idea of moving the broadcast timeline to suit the Asian timezone?
No la... Real madrid used 80 million to buy Ronaldo just to exploit the Spanish market tongue.gif tongue.gif

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No la... Real madrid used 80 million to buy Ronaldo just to exploit the Spanish market  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(KLshcoolkid @ Nov 22 2009, 01:22 AM)
mmm....cant you read R E A D, or shall others stick it on yer forehead? whats all these personal attacking and nonsense you trying hard to pull out? ok, just to make you satisfied, the statement 'selipar jepun local product' ..cant u see? read? do u understand how so-called mega-market works? and thats another issue. a piece of advice, dnt come out with personal attack/ remarks in discussion, it only tend you to be a phatetic loser and congratulations! you just called yerself a fooly proud ... dont have medal for you boy...
You talk like a complete moron, got problem understanding half of what you say. If you don't know how to write in English, then write in Bahasa lar.

By the way don't try to pretend you're a girl to get off easy (wear no panties in KLCC - wtf), everybody knows you are a stupid boy.
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The TS absolutely a MORON who has no idea about what's football all about. Maybe he/she was forced to do a fellatio on some stinking caucasions on da first day of wearing his/her jersey.

Football nowadays are both BUSINESS and PASSION. More passion = more business = more $$$ = more likely to win trophy = fans more happy. Its WIN-WIN SITUATION which the stupid moron TS failed to realise. Why does this idiot wanna control on how others spend their $$$? If more such moron exist in our society, i bet we can start talking abt to live in a cave again.. thumbup.gif

Oh btw, some caucasians think that eating rice is plain stupid. So TS must stop eating rice from now onwards..

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TS, u may see football fans in malaysia wearing EPL jersey everywhere and u can conclude that they are not patriotic. but if u went to the match between malaysia and man utd, even though the outer they wear man utd jersey, but when malaysia scored, they all cheered like that is no tomorrow.

yes, some hooligans in UK might laugh and call asian people idiot for wearing epl jersey and support epl team but bear in mind that they are quite extremist and racist. some of them even still despised black people for wearing their national jersey. how many times players like defoe, campbell and cole were jeered with monkey chant until FA had to tackle racist problem. it's no surprise if asian people were targeted also. but, not all are like that. i've been to Manchester once and wear the jersey. some of them greeted me with warm hospitality. even during the match i sat among unknown man utd supporters and they put their arms around me asking me to stand up and sing the song along with them. i might be lucky not to bump into hooligans but not all of them are like what TS mentioned.

TS, i know u have noble intention of reminding us of who we really are and the consequences of supporting foreign product. u said foreigners laugh at us because we cheer their team but we also did the same. we too laugh at foreigners for most of what they are doing. our country already face the effects of globalisation. foreign products are everywhere.

TS, like u've said, football in UK are like their religion. they would die for it. it's like war for them. it's their way of life. but not in malaysia. most of us like football as a game, beauty of the game, style of play, and togetherness when supporting ur team. no more than that. we don't have to be like them. their fans cannot see eye to eye or else hell break loose. but no problem here in malaysia. Kelantan fans can sit at the same table with Johor fans without busting each other face. we all only enjoy the game. we crave for beautiful football like ones that played in EPL. but during malaysia match, we all watch and support and often left with heartache. malaysia lost not because of the fans, but management and players. we give our support, going to the stadium and cheer like there's no tomorrow.
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Why dont you TS use your original account instead of duping? =X

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Honestly, I don't see why everyone is so concerned over his comments.

a) His is merely an opinion, one of many. Opinions are free which is why everyone is so willing to part with them.
b) Who cares if we're buying into commercialism? You reckon he doesn't buy greeting cards from hallmark? How about a Christmas tree from 1 Utama? Fact is that we have a right to decide what we want to spend on?
c) They don't give a shite about fans over here? Hmm I'm not convinced. I've been to Liverpool and spoken to fans over there over a couple of pints. It was the reverse for me. Those I met were impressed that I made the long journey over and that I knew my stuff. I can however emphathise with them given the number of OOTs around the world these days who don't feel history or knowledge of the club is important.

In the end who cares what others think? What matters is not what he says, it's what you think of what he said.
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in short, don't force a piece of meat that is not to everyone's taste into everyone's mouth and expect them to swallow it.

summary;

"one man's meat is some girls poison" smile.gif

get it?
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Hmmmm, just my 2 cents. Does the ts know about the corruption and mismanagement of the local football by the powers-that-be? I've seen my fair share of downs more than up of local football. I was there when the semi-pro league started - was an ardent Perak supporter. I was there when we won the gold medal in our own home turf in 1989. I was shattered and disillusioned when the corruption was exposed. I've personally heard tales of rampant match fixing from ex-players. I've heard of racism in the grass-root football levels. I'm with those who thinks that FAM needs a major revamp and a big kick up the arse. Until we sort out the problems, its hard to support the local football scene. Well, as for my personal experience, i've yet to encounter any problems with the British Liverpool supporters (Scousers) that i've met over the years.

Call me a fool or what nots, i'm still gonna support my foreign team - been doing so for over 20 years. As it is, my support for the local football scene is in the storage room until i see real progress in the revamp and rebuilding of the all levels of football in Malaysia.
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Yes, agree with you JonC. You know the funny thing is, we've changed like a dozen of national team coach, we've changed like hundreds of players since the glory days of 80's. We've changed a couple of team managers and even after the multiple team management and players change, our football still sucks. Funny thing is, the only 1 thing that has not changed is the FAM. The same guy or at least his son who's at the helm of FAM for the past 20 years or so. Don't they realise the problem is with FAM top guy and not the hundreds of people who's been part of the national football team be it coaches or players.

Im definitely not watching any local football till improvement is seen. People talk about how expensive it is to watch English football, be it flying to England or just the complaints about Astro increasing their subscription price. The way i see it, if they're playing good stuff, im enjoying the game and the thrills, i don't see a reason to complain. Even if it means saving up to fly to England to watch. Its the whole experience of watching a really good game, the atmosphere, the thrills when your team score or concede a goal. Is it worth putting in a couple of thousand of $, to me yes. My point here is, would i pay a whole lot of money less, say RM15 to watch a local game. Answer is, NO. Thing is, they're playing lousy football and you end up feeling like you wasted your time and the RM15 to watch bad football, there's no thrill and enjoyment, so its money wasted more than anything else.

To put it in another perspective, i'd rather pay RM50 to have a really really good meal than to pay RM5 for shite meal.




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i thought local football had no real support...until i went to the recent malaysia cup final...bloody packed everywhere.
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QUOTE(giotto @ Nov 23 2009, 04:30 PM)
Yes, agree with you JonC. You know the funny thing is, we've changed like a dozen of national team coach, we've changed like hundreds of players since the glory days of 80's. We've changed a couple of team managers and even after the multiple team management and players change, our football still sucks. Funny thing is, the only 1 thing that has not changed is the FAM. The same guy or at least his son who's at the helm of FAM for the past 20 years or so. Don't they realise the problem is with FAM top guy and not the hundreds of people who's been part of the national football team be it coaches or players.

Im definitely not watching any local football till improvement is seen. People talk about how expensive it is to watch English football, be it flying to England or just the complaints about Astro increasing their subscription price. The way i see it, if they're playing good stuff, im enjoying the game and the thrills, i don't see a reason to complain. Even if it means saving up to fly to England to watch. Its the whole experience of watching a really good game, the atmosphere, the thrills when your team score or concede a goal. Is it worth putting in a couple of thousand of $, to me yes.  My point here is, would i pay a whole lot of money less, say RM15 to watch a local game. Answer is, NO. Thing is, they're playing lousy football and you end up feeling like you wasted your time and the RM15 to watch bad football, there's no thrill and enjoyment, so its money wasted more than anything else.

To put it in another perspective, i'd rather pay RM50 to have a really really good meal than to pay RM5 for shite meal.
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you are wrong to judge local game "bad" football. i went to watched occasionally and it's quite entertaining. granted, it may not as entertaining as Astro's poison known as BPL but still... it's pretty good.

(national team is shite - no argument)

people tend to assume the typical malaysian league is shite.. my say is, try go to the stadium and watch before u say anything. the stadium may be empty and quite but the most important is the game itself. give the league a chance. it may grow on you.

rm10 you can chose any seat you like.. gud wat?
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Don't local matches clash with the EPL games on the telly? They usually play on weekends at about 845 pm am I right? I remember this becoz back when I was little I used to watch them play right after the 8 o clock news. Now, given the option of choosing between watching your favorite EPL team play or travelling to the stadium to support your local club, which would you choose? Slag my patriotism all you want but I know where I'll be come matchday.
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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Nov 23 2009, 08:59 PM)
Don't local matches clash with the EPL games on the telly? They usually play on weekends at about 845 pm am I right? I remember this becoz back when I was little I used to watch them play right after the 8 o clock news. Now, given the option of choosing between watching your favorite EPL team play or travelling to the stadium to support your local club, which would you choose? Slag my patriotism all you want but I know where I'll be come matchday.
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that's what TS would like to bring forth but somehow he messed up the word tongue.gif

liga super weekend match either on friday or saturday. rarely on sunday. i won't slag your patriotism but when there's intl break you should try and go watch. they start back on end January i think.
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err i think most of you guys are not getting to the root cause of the problem.

the original poster is saying that he got slacked off in UK because he is a foreigner wearing a 'foreign' jersey.

maybe is has nothing to do with the jersey and is purely a face problem
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QUOTE(FisshY @ Nov 23 2009, 11:25 PM)
err i think most of you guys are not getting to the root cause of the problem.

the original poster is saying that he got slacked off in UK because he is a foreigner wearing a 'foreign' jersey.

maybe is has nothing to do with the jersey and is purely a face problem
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lol really.. i got these type of bollocks from the local lads before..the old 'support you local team' tales..but this is the first time ive seen it coming out from mates on my side..and suprisingly i can see lotsa people here arent use to this "support your local team" agenda...its simple

am born and bred here in kl, but i refuse to support my home team..
i'd rather support the team who never knows my existence in this world

u can never understand the logic if ure not one of us sons..
and u dare telling me am stupid..
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Hahaha...wtf is wrong with TS? Maybe some people never heard a quote "Its better you keep your mouth shut and let people thinks that you are stupid rather than you speak and remove all doubts"...what a moron..

She or he (or whatever) obviously have no clue about football in Europe.
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maybe he was wearing Man United jersey walking around in Merseyside and get screwed laugh.gif
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when i was growing up , i supported KL which had players like Fandi Ahmad, Malek Awab and Shebby Singh. However, in the early 90-s the nationwide crackdown on match fixing actually killed the game in Malaysia and also Singapore pulling out of Malaysia Cup. And from there , everything went downhill.

This was also the time where Premier League began its existence and over the years, with the marketing effort and tv money, the EPL just got bigger and bigger and you see EPL teams coming to this part of the world. So, it is just a matter of how EPL reach out to the audience in this part of the world. I dont think the people in England would hate us for supporting their team. There may be a minority group there who take offense but to the majority of them, they would be proud to know that a Malaysian supports their team.
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when i was growing up , i supported KL which had players like Fandi Ahmad, Malek Awab and Shebby Singh.  However, in the early 90-s the nationwide crackdown on match fixing actually killed the game in Malaysia and also Singapore pulling out of Malaysia Cup.  And from there , everything went downhill.
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Believe me, its much worst in Singapore.
At least in Malaysia, the malaysia cup sees full house and guranteed wild atmosphere.
At least here you could see yellow scarfs with red jerseys. tongue.gif
Kallang Roar, Kallang Wave. Its all in distant memories now in Singapore. For eg: Liverpool vs Singapore. That was really terrible morale for Singapore to feel like an away side. wink.gif
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QUOTE(visionary1993 @ Nov 25 2009, 01:00 PM)
Believe me, its much worst in Singapore.
At least in Malaysia, the malaysia cup sees full house and guranteed wild atmosphere.
At least here you could see yellow scarfs with red jerseys. tongue.gif
Kallang Roar, Kallang Wave. Its all in distant memories now in Singapore. For eg: Liverpool vs Singapore. That was really terrible morale for Singapore to feel like an away side.  wink.gif
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that is why there were talks of getting Singapore back to Malaysia Cup.

anyway, this is out of topic in this thread.

The thing is we can support any team in the world we want. It is not only in football, but in basketball, american football, rugby etc ... i watch NBA and is a Celtics supporter. If i wear a Celtics tops in Boston, i am sure there wouldn't be anyone asking why i m wearing the team's shirt. Sports is really a global business nowadays. Open up any form of news media be it online or paper, there will surely be news of sports. It has actually reached out to the world wide audience.

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QUOTE(71ers @ Nov 25 2009, 12:05 PM)
when i was growing up , i supported KL which had players like Fandi Ahmad, Malek Awab and Shebby Singh.  However, in the early 90-s the nationwide crackdown on match fixing actually killed the game in Malaysia and also Singapore pulling out of Malaysia Cup.  And from there , everything went downhill.

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I still remembered that Matlan Majan(playing for Sabah) was 'paid' for the Msia Cup Final(Sabah v Selangor) and Sabah still won by 3-0? tongue.gif Before the crackdown, almost all the stadiums are fullhouse most of the time and we got live matches on TV3, not on the lame rtm..
Even the local papers were dominated by local football news then. Now, maybe max 3/4 of a page...lol..
I bet da TS still sucking milk during that time.. laugh.gif

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watching football at the Merdeka Stadium grandstand which will shake if everyone jumps in unison .. those were the days of local football ..
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despite the general 'unpleasantness' directed at the TS, he/she has some valid points.

football nowadays is a brand, and the EPL does market itself very well. There are definitely hardcore supporters (like Duke and JonC for Liverpool, and jersey Schmeichel for ManUtd) but sadly these people are in the minority.
there's a lot of 'glory hunters' out there, eager and willing to spend on the next 'in' thing.

now, back to Malaysian football. Being local (and yes, I am looking at you proton) does not mean that you have the god given right to be popular and well loved locally. You have to earn that right, and i do not think the local football scene has done quite that. yet.

i miss the good old semi pro days...

p.s. btw, there's much much more to being a 'supporter' than buying an original jersey.

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Instead of being mad of local wearing foreigner club's jersey, let me ask this question.

Is Malaysia's football industry as strong and solid as the Brits? No offense but I think they're pile of dump where people just try to corrupt money as many as they can get.
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What TS said, I could understand from where it coming from. Probably experienced it first hand eh. Unless people actually live over there and experienced or truly understand English football culture, it's could be hard to understand. While we do have some fanatics of our own in local football scene, over there lots of them take it religiously. It's more about tradition. Some of the root fans just don't want their club to be associated with fans (from Asia especially, Caucasian is more or less can be forgiven) whom they they are not familiar with and don't really know their background (unless you're a guy who pour millions for the clubs) and would make the club looks like losing it's own identity. But most likely they are on the minority side.

I bet if TS actually phrased her words differently while talking about the same thing the thread probably get a better response.

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all this barking about local football not good is somewhat not fair to the league.

have you guys ever go watching it live at stadium? if you said yes, how many times you actually go? at least try watching a few times before making a judgment. most of us have been pampered with the quality of BPL and conclude Liga Super is bad because it is not the same standard as them. please lower down your standard a bit and be neutral.. i bet you'll think differently.
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ei?? wat's this? an 'essay-writing' before SPM?? herein LYN?? wow...
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if this was presented as an essay of a SPM student, the standard of english of a SPM candidate must be terrible
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I do watch local football. i even have touched the cup, take photograph, even handshake with terengganu player when they won piala malaysia few years back. now i live in kelantan, and i support the kelantan team although i didn't condone the violence by kelantanese supporter. i have kelantan shirt too, with a writing "FA campaign" at the back of the shirt.

BUT,

I also have been to BPL games, when i was in UK last year for studying. I've been to Stadium of Lights, the home ground of Sunderland FC, the main rival for Newcastle United last year. and guess what TS? they do welcome us to support their team, even the hooligans there said they were proud to have an asian supporter. i even met a guy, with a tattoo that says "ha'way lads!" with sunderland fc crest on his hand, and he gave me a seat so i can watch sunderland games in a local pub. so what's your point TS? i think people don't like you because of faceproblem.
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I admit not going to the stadium since the days Selangor were a powerhouse when we had the likes of Zsolt Bucs, Karel Stromsik, P. Maniam, A. Jayakanthan, Pavel Korejcik, Karel Stromsik, Ismail Ibrahim, K.Gunalan etc in the team but the difference between then and now is stark! I tell you what, the decision to remove foreigners from the league and more importantly turn it into a pro league has contributed to our crappiness.

One doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to see there is a problem. Our teams suck in the Asian Champions League and our national team sucks big time.
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phrasing it better or not from the original thread starter means very little if they are saying one is foolishly supporting a foreign club as oppose to supporting your local boys.

its everything to do with today's media coverage and other forms of communication given to the foreign leagues. like it or not, whilst this may sound unpatriotic in many ways, we have more or less ourselves to blame for portraying a small minded mentality when it comes to our local leagues. lets not talk about competitiveness, its not even there. the old days are gone.

have they done all they can to improve it? honestly we all know the answer to that.

are we ashame to support our local team? definitely not. but would you pay money to watch pros or schoolboys play?

there is nothing foolish about supporting something you believe in or something that you like. but by saying its fooly proud of nothing, that is disrespectful.

anyway whatever reason she (or he) is trying to point out, its already pretty insolence the way it was put. immature maybe.. the nic name used already partly shows it. maybe should just stick to studying for the betterment of themselves rather than to harp on other peoples interest aye?
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QUOTE(visionary1993 @ Nov 25 2009, 01:00 PM)
Believe me, its much worst in Singapore.
At least in Malaysia, the malaysia cup sees full house and guranteed wild atmosphere.
At least here you could see yellow scarfs with red jerseys. tongue.gif
Kallang Roar, Kallang Wave. Its all in distant memories now in Singapore. For eg: Liverpool vs Singapore. That was really terrible morale for Singapore to feel like an away side.  wink.gif
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Thats because most of us at the stadium that evening were Malaysians/Indons etc. Why would we non-Singers want to support your permanent resident footballers?

QUOTE(rushmode @ Nov 25 2009, 08:17 PM)
all this barking about local football not good is somewhat not fair to the league.

have you guys ever go watching it live at stadium? if you said yes, how many times you actually go? at least try watching a few times before making a judgment. most of us have been pampered with the quality of BPL and conclude Liga Super is bad because it is not the same standard as them. please lower down your standard a bit and be neutral.. i bet you'll think differently.
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Its ok for you if you support the big teams like Kelantan, Perak & Selangor. At least there's something worth watching.
Try going to games of of the Premier League, & then tell us to go watch games I've been to watch KL play at Cheras stadium in the Premier League several times. The quality of the product on the pitch was uniformly dire. Each time there were at most 200 supporters, of which about 30 were in the KLFA official supporters club kompang group. Who are you to tell us supporters of KL, Melaka or Sarawak that we should abandon Chelsea or Arsenal just to support the dire football being played in the lower reached of the premier league or the FAM league?

I want to ask the thread starter if he/she knows where to buy the jersey for Melaka.



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What happened to the TS?
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i think the TS got a bad experience went to UK wearing his favorite EPL team jersey, probably got beaten up by a group of hooligans, that's why he express his feeling here, hoping to get some attention and sympathy laugh.gif

jerseyman, TS probably went to his mom and cry tongue.gif

ok2, i was just joking, hehe

i also saw a few tourist wearing malaysian nike home jersey, at some point i feel proud about it smile.gif but for me, a jersey is just a jersey la, u can wear it if u want. its like a computer geek wearing vans skate shoes wink.gif

and there's nothing wrong with supporting any football team, it is that simple. its not like its religiously forbidden tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Nov 26 2009, 12:16 PM)
I admit not going to the stadium since the days Selangor were a powerhouse when we had the likes of Zsolt Bucs, Karel Stromsik, P. Maniam, A. Jayakanthan, Pavel Korejcik, Karel Stromsik, Ismail Ibrahim, K.Gunalan etc in the team but the difference between then and now is stark! I tell you what, the decision to remove foreigners from the league and more importantly turn it into a pro league has contributed to our crappiness.

One doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to see there is a problem. Our teams suck in the Asian Champions League and our national team sucks big time.
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you mention Karel Stromsik twice. it should be Zoran Nikolic biggrin.gif

anyway, FAM really screwed the league up when forbidding foreign players play here. and Gov make it worst when they revoked the tobacco company rights to sponsor sporting event.

current FAM need to thrown out and replace with people who actually knows football and loves the game. please no politician.
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the foreign players are not effective enough to improve the local players and the wages + allowances are damn high ...

so FAM remove them ...
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the foreign players are not effective enough to improve the local players and the wages + allowances are damn high ...

so FAM remove them ...
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no money which results from their mismanagement and failed marketing. if you have the chances growing up in the late '80s and '90s then you should know almost every weekend stadium merdeka is full (i rarely missed the game back then).. the same goes to other stadiums. heck, even when KL played the stadium almost packed. FAM failed to take this chances to elevate the status of our local league. bad decisions after bad decisions and the bribery scandal killing the quality of our national league. when it is clear that FAM top management is no longer relevant, they refused to step down. instead they arrogantly stayed.
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this is one of the reason our football industry cant compete with europe's,

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barcelona's joan gamper sportive center (correct me if im wrong barca's fan tongue.gif)
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ghoster, even malaysia got those training grounds also useless because the person that manage it is a noob
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ghoster, even malaysia got those training grounds also useless because the person that manage it is a noob
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I think the problem lies more in the mentality of those involved in Malaysian football and the management, not the facilities.
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i like the way u guys give ur opinion by voicing out all the corruption in Malaysia Football sector : ) see what TS gotta say about it
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QUOTE(rushmode @ Nov 26 2009, 07:17 PM)
you mention Karel Stromsik twice. it should be Zoran Nikolic biggrin.gif

anyway, FAM really screwed the league up when forbidding foreign players play here. and Gov make it worst when they revoked the tobacco company rights to sponsor sporting event.

current FAM need to thrown out and replace with people who actually knows football and loves the game. please no politician.
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That's right, thanks for correcting me smile.gif Also remember a certain Zsolt Bucs (pronounced George Bush).

I think foreigners can only add to the quality of the league. At least they can impart some knowledge onto our local lads. We have aspiring youth with talent and ability, but they ultimately succumb to the greed and corruption that has a firm grip over our local league. The mentality of the players is another contributing factor. Geeze there are just so many things wrong, diet, training, etc?

What about the Chinese and Indian footballing community? Why have they decided to stay away from football? We were at our best when we had a multi cultural team eh? Soh Chin Aun, Mokhtar Dahari, Santokh Singh, Arumugam... these 4 alone are from diverse racial backgrounds. How many Indian or Chinese do you see in football these days? It isn't that footballers don't get paid enough.

Staying away from the stadium's is a good thing if you ask me. It shows the FAM that we have had enough of their shananigans. The supporters will not accept an inferior product anymore. It isn't about being unpatriotic. Support the local league? Go to the stadium? Pah! Respect is earned, not given and the FAM do not have my respect at all!
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football is not a career in Malaysia and that is a fact
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dude.. depend one which state/club you play, a semi decent player will earn at least 5k a month is better than most of us here. few of my friends who playing states/club now rocking at least 6k excluding extras bonus. heck, the harimau muda (under 22) is earning 2.5k.. it's damn good if you ask me. it's a matter of how well you control your financial.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Nov 30 2009, 03:34 PM)
That's right, thanks for correcting me smile.gif Also remember a certain Zsolt Bucs (pronounced George Bush).

I think foreigners can only add to the quality of the league. At least they can impart some knowledge onto our local lads. We have aspiring youth with talent and ability, but they ultimately succumb to the greed and corruption that has a firm grip over our local league. The mentality of the players is another contributing factor. Geeze there are just so many things wrong, diet, training, etc?

What about the Chinese and Indian footballing community? Why have they decided to stay away from football? We were at our best when we had a multi cultural team eh? Soh Chin Aun, Mokhtar Dahari, Santokh Singh, Arumugam... these 4 alone are from diverse racial backgrounds. How many Indian or Chinese do you see in football these days? It isn't that footballers don't get paid enough.

Staying away from the stadium's is a good thing if you ask me. It shows the FAM that we have had enough of their shananigans. The supporters will not accept an inferior product anymore. It isn't about being unpatriotic. Support the local league? Go to the stadium? Pah! Respect is earned, not given and the FAM do not have my respect at all!
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hmm...therein lies the root of the problem? imho (and i might be wrong for i have not followed the local football scene for a while now) the fact that the other races no longer seem interested in playing the game is both a shame and a wasted opportunity.
surely a squad of talented, multi racial malaysian boys gunning for world cup qualification will be able to whip up more goodwill and national pride than any expensive and supposedly expansive 1Malaysian slogan the government's PR people can conjure.
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hmm...therein lies the root of the problem? imho (and i might be wrong for i have not followed the local football scene for a while now) the fact that the other races no longer seem interested in playing the game is both a shame and a wasted opportunity.

surely a squad of talented, multi racial malaysian boys gunning for world cup qualification will be able to whip up more goodwill and national pride than any expensive and supposedly expansive 1Malaysian slogan the government's PR people can conjure.
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It isn't my intention to stir up controversy (or is it?) but are the other races staying away because of racial politics? I mean it's practiced in every other facet of nation isn't it? I wonder why they no longer seem interested? Do we practice meritocracy in football? We sure as hell don't anywhere else.

We can sit here and complain all we want. The thing is the powers that be don't care about the state of our football so long as they get to stuff their fat faces, so why should we?
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involvement of other races really is scarce.. i dont believe it caused by politics or racism (at least not within the team.. FAM not sure la)..

maybe just because they think football is not a profitable career like a poster strongly said a few post above.

well, at least there's still multiracial teams in the futsal tourney..
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QUOTE(loko02 @ Dec 18 2009, 09:27 AM)
hope this will spur the malaysian MU supporters to support our countrymen the next time MU plays us..bunch of traitors! yeah, u know who u are...u were there hahahahaha now u want to come to lowyat.net to tumpang our glory! sorry lah babe! this bandwagon is not yet full, feel free to join us, but wipe your feet with your MU jersey before hopping on the bandwagon...and donate that jersey to singapore... I love everton fc but no way its gona go above my love for my country! HAHAHAHAHA PEACE MU (MSIA) SUPPORTERS SDN BHD!
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Malaysia is currently under hefty attack (am not kidding) by Zionist Illuminati. Let me recall " IS ".

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Sorry for going out of topic but some wrongs need to be righted.

doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif You my friend FAIL at History. Now THAT'S a fact mad.gif Why would ANY Zionist movement suddenly give bear hugs to the Illuminati and start working as partners to TAKE OVER MALAYSIA?! blink.gif IIRC, many a innocent Jew was slaughtered during the Crusades and also during the Inquisiton. IMO, a union between the Catholic Church and Judaism is utterly impossible. The resentment is STILL there.

Also, What is FOOLY?


*exhales* Thank you

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i think playing football also needs some level of intelligence other than physical factor

and good management .. we dont have any of those factors i guess

 

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