Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

Food Cooking. An art or science?, What do you think?

views
     
SUSbuntutman
post Nov 17 2009, 02:09 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
324 posts

Joined: Mar 2009
cookin is an emotional thing.

if your mom cooking bad but is cook with love, u eat also u song ! correct or not.
812799
post Nov 17 2009, 02:10 AM

Enthusiast
*****
Senior Member
836 posts

Joined: Aug 2007


urm i dunno how can that happen ... but i think i'm ok with it ... hehe no doubt electric cooker is faster ...
M@Y
post Nov 17 2009, 02:13 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
150 posts

Joined: Jul 2009
From: Malaysia


@buntutman,

If many years eat mommy's cooking, how to know it is bad or not. Its just that everyone's cooking style and taste is different only. Not burnt until it is not edible already sweat.gif

@812799,

If used to it, sure fast. Just depends how much amount i wanna cook only biggrin.gif

happy4ever
post Nov 17 2009, 02:15 AM

(✿◠‿◠) Queen of Love ⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠
*******
Senior Member
7,194 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Sanctuary of Paradise


QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 17 2009, 12:33 AM)
that also among the many other things, like say for example making beef - did you know that beef tastes better medium rare than well done? many people don't, go straight order well done. damn, ordering well done, might as well just order chicken.
*
Muslims kennot eated rare la.. must not have traces of blood.
So now the science part is, how to make well doned steak taste like medium rare? sweat.gif

and oso how u massage the cow, make the meat more nicer before u mampuskan the poor cow. Meat will be nicer... its science ya wub.gif

QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 17 2009, 12:45 AM)
some people fry the chicken wrongly la.

a lot of chinese chap fan stall fail that - the chicken looks damn tasty, crispy skin but after you start to eat, WTH inside there's blood and uncooked meat. WTH!?!?!

such cooking is strictly commercial la, no art............ but apparently they don't apply science as well, that's why the outcome fail.

to get a chicken done properly, first - don't fry the fella straight out of the freezer. tongue.gif then the heat shouldn't be too hot, too hot then the skin turn brown already inside not yet cooked. so how? put lesser heat so it heats up evenly.

grilling can be fun too! the think is some people think grilling must always have high heat - it's not necessarily so. it can be done with indirect heat. 

the scientific knowledge of what you have with you are just damn important to get the food right. smile.gif after that, to add sour cream on top and cover it with olive oil, well that's out of your ARTISTIC creativity already la. tongue.gif
*
Thats why u send it to thegutterfood liao to gutter to fail fooood.

QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 17 2009, 12:53 AM)
i not so clever to have recipe yet. i just like to cr[eat]e food. smile.gif

sometimes people choose fried fish because if the fish not fresh, then it doesn't taste that bad. unfortunately over-frying does occur.


Added on November 17, 2009, 12:57 am

so far one of the most fun dish to look at........

user posted image

the igloo was the most interesting part. smile.gif so big presentation but only 3 small things to eat.

itu la fine dining - ART of presentation. small items but quality dishes.
beef has this special taste and smell that chicken doesn't. chicken hor, you mix with practically anything also can turn out nice, but this is not so for beef. biggrin.gif

duck meat also nice. brows.gif

user posted image
*
Eh, Puchong i oso got eated this creative work

user posted image

its called the "twin peaks" of happiness rclxms.gif

artistick liao..

M@Y
post Nov 17 2009, 02:18 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
150 posts

Joined: Jul 2009
From: Malaysia


Is that egg? mellow.gif
TSHootoot
post Nov 17 2009, 02:19 AM

New Member
*
Junior Member
4 posts

Joined: Sep 2009


QUOTE(M@Y @ Nov 17 2009, 02:18 AM)
Is that egg? mellow.gif
*
more like taufoo
M@Y
post Nov 17 2009, 02:23 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
150 posts

Joined: Jul 2009
From: Malaysia


Woh... biggrin.gif

Chat again later. Wanna sleep d. Nightz, guys~ wink.gif
happy4ever
post Nov 17 2009, 04:06 AM

(✿◠‿◠) Queen of Love ⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠
*******
Senior Member
7,194 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Sanctuary of Paradise


QUOTE(M@Y @ Nov 17 2009, 02:18 AM)
Is that egg? mellow.gif
*
it is tofu

made to look liek twin peaks wub.gif
Cas
post Nov 17 2009, 09:11 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
262 posts

Joined: Jul 2006


I would say both. I always look for ways to make my dish look more colorful and appealing and at the same time I always see if I can alter the recipe or take it a step further by turning it into a fusion dish. Recently I made Thai green curry soup with spaghetti and the results were really good smile.gif
stimix
post Nov 17 2009, 09:13 AM

Dunno
Group Icon
Moderator
3,542 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Puchong, Selangor



That's the best tofu in Puchong liao...me like it...so it's an art! Creative enuf wth the idea of twin tower tofu.. drool.gif

QUOTE(happy4ever @ Nov 17 2009, 04:06 AM)
it is tofu

made to look liek twin peaks  wub.gif
*
This post has been edited by stimix: Nov 17 2009, 09:15 AM
goldfries
post Nov 17 2009, 11:42 AM

40K Club
Group Icon
Forum Admin
44,415 posts

Joined: Jan 2003




let's not go off topic liao la.
vey99
post Nov 17 2009, 01:46 PM

Manyzer
*******
Senior Member
2,851 posts

Joined: Jun 2006
attractive and tasty and fresh idea is art
gutterfood is not art
SUSMr.Wokayyy
post Nov 17 2009, 04:31 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
62 posts

Joined: Sep 2009
i still say its emotions
happy4ever
post Nov 17 2009, 04:43 PM

(✿◠‿◠) Queen of Love ⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠
*******
Senior Member
7,194 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Sanctuary of Paradise


QUOTE(vey99 @ Nov 17 2009, 01:46 PM)
attractive and tasty and fresh idea is art
gutterfood is not art
*
gutterfood is abt ppl focusing too much on science, until art tarak.
vey99
post Nov 17 2009, 04:43 PM

Manyzer
*******
Senior Member
2,851 posts

Joined: Jun 2006
fusion alwiz try to pass off as art, but i duwan eats pizza with bakso topping. no thanks.
SUSMr.Wokayyy
post Nov 17 2009, 05:01 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
62 posts

Joined: Sep 2009
i dont like sucky food that try to dress up themselves ...... thats called fine dining.
vey99
post Nov 17 2009, 05:02 PM

Manyzer
*******
Senior Member
2,851 posts

Joined: Jun 2006
big big plate, in the middle one scallop with some few drop of sos, RM69. syiok.
etigge
post Nov 17 2009, 05:15 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
295 posts

Joined: Oct 2009


QUOTE(Hootoot @ Nov 17 2009, 12:09 AM)
I am a Culinary Arts student, and I think that cooking is between art and science. And I would apply both during cooking.

But this is only my theory. So what's yours?

Vote and give a reason  biggrin.gif
*
I am a cook and my opinion of the above is both but it is more Art than Science. The Science part came in because time changes and made it into a Science. They started having courses for it but in actual good cooks cannot be taught. They have to follow the process of apprenticeship to 2nd wok (or chef) before they are experience enough to plan the menu.

The really Arty part of cooking is " No two person can cook the same flavour " even if you give them the same ingredients and time. Likewise, if you were to ask me, "how much of this or that to put in", I cannot really answer because commercial cooks never measure! It's a matter of feel. You can only estimate when you measure the quantity. No ingredients are the same . Even the soya sauce you bought this week and next week are different so measuring is just a guideline. In some cases even the different sequence of adding ingredients produces different flavour. In the case of margarine, if you cook with it and not overcook it, it's fine and might taste nice but if you put too much heat for too long it's toxic. Plastics are manufactured in the same way.

Actually the quality of food has declined through the decades, but because people adapts a new bar( lowering the bar in actual). Have you ever heard of good places to eat and suddenly the quality dropped. That's because the main chef left or died. No matter how close you are to the chef, he will never impart al his knowledge unless it is a family restaurant. Ask your parents, is Kam Lun Tai or Yoke Woo Hing the same as last time. A simple example is 'Xing Zhao Mei' or Singapore Fried Beehoon. The art is lost because in actual you can never get the type of beehoon that older generations used. Those beehoon are handmade and hence tougher. They have to be blanched first before cooking. Ingredients changes through generations.

The newer generations tends to simplify things and definately taste and flavour changes and to the newer generations it may be good but to the older generations they are bad. They have the newer 'fusion food' which sets a new bar and the only judge to the quality is our tongues.

To sum it up, 'COOKING IS AN ART' because just like art,once the artist is dead, you will never again get to taste the same flavour again even if a new chef follow his cookings step by step.


Added on November 17, 2009, 5:20 pm
QUOTE(Hootoot @ Nov 17 2009, 12:09 AM)
I am a Culinary Arts student, and I think that cooking is between art and science. And I would apply both during cooking.

But this is only my theory. So what's yours?

Vote and give a reason  biggrin.gif
*
I am a cook and my opinion of the above is both but it is more Art than Science. The Science part came in because time changes and made it into a Science. They started having courses for it but in actual good cooks cannot be taught. They have to follow the process of apprenticeship to 2nd wok (or chef) before they are experience enough to plan the menu. More importantly like artist they have to be creative! Cooks in franchise restaurants are more like line production operators. They have no avenue to display their creativity but just to follow the procedures from the head branch.

The really Arty part of cooking is " No two person can cook the same flavour " even if you give them the same ingredients and time. Likewise, if you were to ask me, "how much of this or that to put in", I cannot really answer because commercial cooks never measure! It's a matter of feel. You can only estimate when you measure the quantity. No ingredients are the same . Even the soya sauce you bought this week and next week are different so measuring is just a guideline. In some cases even the different sequence of adding ingredients produces different flavour. In the case of margarine, if you cook with it and not overcook it, it's fine and might taste nice but if you put too much heat for too long it's toxic. Plastics are manufactured in the same way.

Actually the quality of food has declined through the decades, but because people adapts a new bar( lowering the bar in actual). Have you ever heard of good places to eat and suddenly the quality dropped. That's because the main chef left or died. No matter how close you are to the chef, he will never impart al his knowledge unless it is a family restaurant. Ask your parents, is Kam Lun Tai or Yoke Woo Hing the same as last time. A simple example is 'Xing Zhao Mei' or Singapore Fried Beehoon. The art is lost because in actual you can never get the type of beehoon that older generations used. Those beehoon are handmade and hence tougher. They have to be blanched first before cooking. Ingredients changes through generations.

The newer generations tends to simplify things and definately taste and flavour changes and to the newer generations it may be good but to the older generations they are bad. They have the newer 'fusion food' which sets a new bar and the only judge to the quality is our tongues.

To sum it up, 'COOKING IS AN ART' because just like art,once the artist is dead, you will never again get to taste the same flavour again even if a new chef follow his cookings step by step.

This post has been edited by etigge: Nov 17 2009, 05:20 PM

3 Pages < 1 2 3Top
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0470sec    0.88    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 27th November 2025 - 02:10 AM