I would appreciate(and allow it) if someone created a separate thread titled something like 'Why You Shouldn't Buy Modern Warfare 2'. Put all the points why the game/Activision/Infinity Ward should be ignored.

The reason for this is I feel those that want to complain are already hijacking this thread way too much. I understand your rage but you can't force everyone to agree with you and not to expect everyone not to play this game simply because you wont be doing so. By having that new thread you still give forumers the choice to view your side as well as allowing them space to discuss about this game if they wanted to.

Just don't bring the hate to this thread. No more flaming from here onwards please.

1-no dedicates servers

Just played some multiplayer had 80-120 ping. Could aim on people but this could be due to anti lag. Game is fast paced like cod4.. with improvements. graphics seem the same. im running on medium not sure what my fps is obviously. I have a 9600gt asus geforce. 2.6 dual core intel and 4gb of ram but running vista so yeah. only 4v4 at this stage not enough people online i guess.

I think the recoil isnt good enough to easy on full auto to nail some one. Sucks not having the lean function! Going to take a while to get used to.

game runs smooth. Ping isnt to bad considering. Host migration is a real turn off if u know what i mean. Guess it comes down to if u can live with it or not. At this stage host migration is the most annoying part

PC gamers are being treated as minority and dedicated server issue is completely ignored.

What? BC2 have perks?

I think you're referring to the competitive community rather than the pc gamers in general .. not everyone plays this game seriously .. and they are the ones who need the ded servers + mods more than anything .

Can't say they have big difference. Most competitive clans like FFF, JEDI, Bf.Nut came from BF2142/BF2 because CoD4 killed its community

Although I agree that you don't have to advertise other game here. Just chillax bro

Just installed the game. Went staight to multi player. It feels like an arcade console shoot em up to me. Its awful.

IWNet is basically the xbox/console game finder which after people connect it chooses a host. The best part is, if someone leaves, the game pauses while i chooses a new host.

IW, I waited, I stuck with you. I believed you. I hoped you'd get it right. I hoped you knew what you were doing.

You failed me. A long standing customer. I will never buy a game you make again unless you fix this mess.

gimme their hp, i need to ask them something

er... the shop guys just sent me an sms that COD MW2 is in stock now, now I'm struggling either go collect it or not...

er... the shop guys just sent me an sms that COD MW2 is in stock now, now I'm struggling either go collect it or not...

TF2 will last forever, the best game i every bought.

I'm waiting for the reviews on MW2 PC. I'm sure that many games site like gamespot, ign, and etc are aware that this is probably the review that most PC gamers will be waiting for. I just hope that they are total honest in their assessment.

the thought of ac130 or nuke killing only 6 enemies    what a waste of big firepower..

no...swat sux because you can't nuke 6 people!

i have borderlands now, i can play till dec then BFBC2 beta.

BFBC2? oh my im so googling this game to see the juices

@JuzJoe

that avatar of yours, its Borderlands right? How's the game? n yeah how ironic im installing it right now to get rid of my frustration towards MW2...lol

okAy that's it.

after i found out TDM is only 6v6, i killed my intention of getting the game already.

5 hrs worth of SP? dang...ill jz go to cyber cafe and play.

guys, as much as i hate to say all above....i still...

Disclaimer: The preceding review is based on an event organized and paid for by Activision, in which media outlets were provided hotel rooms, each equipped with an Xbox 360 and copy of Modern Warfare 2. As this was Joystiq's only opportunity to review the game in advance of its release, we willingly deviated from our standard policy of not accepting accommodations and used the room. We did so because we felt that participating in this event best served the interest of our readers.

For more information on the Joystiq Editorial Ethics Policies, please click here.

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/11/10/review-c...dern-warfare-2/

At the end of the review i found this disclaimer:
WOW so much for an honest review. 

I hate to break it to you, but they DID release a major gaming title & it was a hit.

Too bad for us die-hard holdouts, though.

i feel u bro, what an utter dissapointment. Hey how bout u try Dragon Age, awesome RPG i might say. 

yo bully! yeah i peek on dragon age, looks like a cool diablo-like game.

but u know what, i am playing Borderlands! and omfg this game is aWESOMEe!!!!!

it's like an RPG TF2 hahahahaha! love the graphics! love the gameplay, the quests n the co-op play, the leveling up(shit,played too much Korean MMO hahaha) is nice!

thanks for whoever suggested Borderlands in order to get rid of my MW2 Warfail!

Dragon age is so not diablo, they're very very different games 

can anybody confirm whether there is Lan for MW2?

okay, wow-like (i meant fantasy-wise, not AK47-wise haha)

anyway I think that guy on the other thread confirmed that there is no LAN, but there is Private match(whatever that is)

IINM from COD MW1 on PS3 I played before, Private match is a LAN match.

coz last year i entered the cyberjaya COD4 ps3 tourney, matches were hosted under private match..

but the downside of private match is that u only get to use default classes, no weapons mod nor access to higher perks, all stock! shucks man!

just dl the game and the crack then play the sp. it not worth it to pay rm200 to play 5 hours game rite? if want to play mp just roll back to mw1. y support this arrogant company? lol

Its not exactly right to pirate it and mention it to everybody,they did make the game after all. 

PC Modern Warfare 2 Locked in Steam Time Vault

    * By Matt Peckham - Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:19AM EST

If you purchased a copy of Modern Warfare 2 through Steam, caveat emptor, because you won't be able to play it today along with everyone else. Yes, Infinity Ward's operatic military-shooter goes on sale today for Windows, Xbox 360, or PlayStation 3 platforms at brick-and-mortar retailers--in fact the game went on sale unofficially several days ago when GameStop corporate loosed the hounds on street-date-snapping mom-and-pop stores and phoned their pre-sells to come in and snatch up copies.

But Steam online pre-sells? Gamers who've long since preloaded Modern Warfare 2, where the game code's literally ready and waiting on their hard drives? They're able to play today as well, right?

Ready... Set... Wait!

Yes, wait. Sadly, inexplicably, maddeningly, Valve's elected to exacerbate the Modern Warfare 2 launch kerfuffle by delaying availability of the online-bought Steam version until Thursday, November 12th. This, despite the fact that the retail versions available today, November 10th, are also the Steam versions of Modern Warfare 2.

Even PC retail pre-sells who managed to get their mitts on the game from street-breaking stores were told they'd have to wait until Tuesday to play, despite the fact that nothing prevented console buyers from doing so.

All courtesy Valve's digital rights management technology, which allows Valve to decide on its own demonstrably mercurial terms who gets to play, and when.

You've probably read that Activision elected to slip Valve's Steamworks technology into both retail and digitally downloadable PC versions of Modern Warfare 2. If you've bought a retail copy of the PC version of the game, you're playing through the same intermediary access technology as someone who bought their copy online.

I learned about the online-version delay in roundabout fashion this morning. I fired up my PC and the Steam client over breakfast, expecting Modern Warfare's status to blink up "Available," only to discover it locked tight, still, with a 'November 12' release offering cold comfort. Kotaku Australia confirmed the news this morning.

The breaking response on Steam's Modern Warfare 2 boards has so far been scathing.

"I will NEVER pre-order through Steam again," wrote one user. "The idea that I can play it sooner by buying the retail version just breaks the last straw for me. I don't care if it is or isn't Steam's fault, the point remains the same: I am punished for pre-purchasing and pre-downloading the game. Fact."

"Unfortunately these issues seem to be setting Steam up to remain the backseat driver when it comes to PC gaming sales," wrote another.

"[Y]ou can't generate...big media hype around the game, entice gamers...build up expectations...and then go like meh, whatever, i'll allow them to play when I feel like it," wrote a third. "I don't know about you, but that sucks hard."

Valve's not offering a "why" (yet--email inquiries dispatched per usual) but Kotaku speculates it might have something to do with capacity load. That's probably part of it, though I'd wager Valve and Activision did some back-room dealing with retailers to help bolster retail sales--sales that benefit both retailers and Valve in this case.

Modern Warfare 2 is the gaming event of 2009. Anyone disagree? Analysts estimate it'll annihilate revenue records held in any other entertainment medium. Valve can't afford to have Steam choking off the block due to server overflow. Yes, Steam's morphed from a simple online storefront into a nosy, contentious digital rights management tool whose benefits are debatable, but if that DRM tool suddenly comes between "playing" and "not-playing," the backlash could snap the service's back.

That won't placate online pre-purchasers, who'll surely seethe over the sudden delay.

Can you blame them?

After all, what's the difference between Steam crashing repeatedly during the game's inaugural moments, and not being able to play the game at all?

Zilch.

Update: If you're thinking about canceling your Steam pre-purchase and buying a retail PC copy today, reports on Steam's MW2 boards are that you'll have to create a new Steam account to get the game running, as the old one's tethered to your pre-purchase. Gamers who pre-purchased, then grabbed a retail copy at the launch parties last night and cancelled the pre-purchase, are reporting it won't run.

It's shorter if you're good, and 10 hours if you're shit and spend more time seeing quotes from various important personages than actually killing stuff.

FWIW I found it similar to the length of CoD4. Just 5 times as epic.

You guys should see this:

Who was that fanboy in this forum that said he wanted to work for Infinity fail? hmmmmm 

who was that poor kid in this forum that says he can only afford to buy pirated games HMMMMM

use your brains pls. i rather work for a established game company then work for KFC like u.

joining a game in server browser is considered difficult.

dude im stuck on the 2nd level i cant get past the part where you have to icepick up the cliff face because the hand eye coordination is too hard and i keep falling off wtf are you talking about this game is really difficult

I am this ----| |---- close to closing this thread unless you kids want to stop bickering.

dude im stuck on the 2nd level i cant get past the part where you have to icepick up the cliff face because the hand eye coordination is too hard and i keep falling off wtf are you talking about this game is really difficult

ar...left and right mouse button coordination. press left hold it press right hold it press left hold it and so on. tricky but can be done. i fell off 3 tim

Please don't close this thread, frags created it for us to rage 

Btw, honest question here, did they added autoaim into the PC port?