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post Feb 2 2010, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Feb 2 2010, 10:58 AM)
The steam profile comparisons aren't exactly full proof since they only actually update once you exit the game and sometimes it takes awhile to update.

Also, is this game still worth trolling against? Its been out for 3 months already. This thread itself feels a bit moot by now.
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I would be more convinced if fourzerotwo purposely told steam to add the playing hours to show that he actually "cared" for the PC gamers.
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Robert said, in regard to this:

It’s magic.
or….. I just locked my computer without closing everything when I went home for the weekend.
One of these two scenarios are true.
Source: http://www.infinityward.com/forum/viewtopi...256910&start=0=

Well Robert, the second one scenario seems the most plausible to me.. but hold on a second. Since when do you play MW2 on PC anyway !? So how is it possible to forget to close down MW2 in the first place anyway ?

Also, Robert still hasn’t learned how VAC works. In a recent topic over at the IW forums, were Robert actually responded in, basically someone asked if making changes to the .cfg files are VAC bannable (it’s a well-known fact that VAC doesn’t ban for that).
402 said that changes to the config can trigger a ban. Someone told him the truth citing the Steam site, and he spouted out a BS reply to cover for not knowing anything. Then he said that texture hacks are bannable. He got owned a bit more, didn’t reply, and then locked the topic, saying:

Glad you got the answers you were looking for.
I was playing it a bit safe, but as you can see there are a number of helpful posters that can give you specifics as to what you can change and how
Source (and topic): http://www.infinityward.com/forum/viewtopi...p?f=24&t=257260

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post Feb 2 2010, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Feb 2 2010, 11:06 AM)
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Well Robert, the second one scenario seems the most plausible to me.. but hold on a second. Since when do you play MW2 on PC anyway !? So how is it possible to forget to close down MW2 in the first place anyway ?

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That's actually more plausible than they play it out to be. It is not uncommon to leave your work terminal running over the weekend (Especially so since it is a development studio).
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post Feb 2 2010, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Feb 1 2010, 07:53 PM)
Check out the next reason why IW developers are all liars and cheaters

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Well,that just shows that he just play it on X-Box more than on PC.

2-3 months of gaming will at least have 100 hours if one play a game excessively.


Added on February 2, 2010, 12:09 pm
QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Feb 2 2010, 11:06 AM)
I would be more convinced if fourzerotwo purposely told steam to add the playing hours to show that he actually "cared" for the PC gamers.
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He could idle it.

Just leave it on and play it on his favourite 360.

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post Feb 3 2010, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Feb 2 2010, 12:08 PM)
Well,that just shows that he just play it on X-Box more than on PC.

2-3 months of gaming will at least have 100 hours if one play a game excessively.


Added on February 2, 2010, 12:09 pm

He could idle it.

Just leave it on and play it on his favourite 360.
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post Mar 4 2010, 05:31 AM

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Here is something for you guys to ponder on before i dissapear from this thread.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/107/1073556p1.html
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post Mar 4 2010, 10:20 AM

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Who owns the right to Call Of Duty?

Activision or IW?
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post Mar 4 2010, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Mar 4 2010, 10:20 AM)
Who owns the right to Call Of Duty?

Activision or IW?
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Activision owns IW, so kinda irrelevant.
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post Mar 4 2010, 10:55 AM

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it is good thing they(original Medal of honor team)split. When they split from Medal of honor company,2015 Inc, they create Call of Duty in new company(IW)....next time i hope they create the new cool thing in their next new company..... thumbup.gif

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Vince Zampella was formerly the Chief Executive Officer at videogame developer Infinity Ward, Inc., overseeing creative development and production for the blockbuster Call of Duty franchise. Previously, he was a producer on such titles as Medal of Honor: Allied Assault, Vigilance, Skies, Baldies, and NBA Jam. Zampella worked at Gametek, Atari, Panasonic/Ripcord, Sega, and 2015 before co-founding Infinity Ward.

In March of 2010, Zampella was unexpectedly let go from Infinity Ward. Former President/Game Director/CCO/CTO Jason West was also let go on the same day. SEC filings by parent company Activision on the firing of the two studio heads described breaches of contract and insubordination. Particularly given that Infinity Ward's last project was the mega-blockbuster Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, most indications as to the reason Zampella and West were let go point to clashes of interest over control of the Call of Duty franchise and Infinity Ward's future outlook.


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QUOTE(mrhulk @ Mar 4 2010, 10:55 AM)
it is good thing they(original Medal of honor team)split. When they split from Medal of honor company,2015 Inc, they create Call of Duty in new company(IW)....next time i hope they create the new cool thing in their next new company..... thumbup.gif

Vince Zampella
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Bobby Kodick and Robert Boling decided to stab the dedicated server stalwarts, ah IW, how has thou fallen biggrin.gif
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post Mar 4 2010, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Mar 4 2010, 10:23 AM)
Activision owns IW, so kinda irrelevant.
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http://kotaku.com/5485295/infinity-ward-fo...npaid-royalties

From the above, looks like IW owns the rights to COD.

Corporate structure usually quite complicated, just because you own a company (even at 100%), doesn't necessary mean you own the right to certain process /products / trademark. That's why there are royalty payments from subsidiary to holding company or vice versa. (Not just for gaming companies)

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Mar 4 2010, 02:45 PM)
http://kotaku.com/5485295/infinity-ward-fo...npaid-royalties

From the above, looks like IW owns the rights to COD.

Corporate structure usually quite complicated, just because you own a company (even at 100%), doesn't necessary mean you own the right to certain process /products / trademark. That's why there are royalty payments from subsidiary to holding company or vice versa. (Not just for gaming companies)
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Thing is, a lot of developers get paid by their publishers based on royalties... regardless of whether the developer is owned by the publisher or not. Plus, since IW was formed by former 2015 heads, royalties were probably part of the deal they made with Activision.


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Interesting, that means their salaries and remunerations are dependent on royalties.

I must get my friends from overseas to send me some royalty agreements for software, especially games.

Never seen those in my field yet.
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Infinity Ward Vs. Activision: The Battle For Creative Direction

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Simmering problems between Activision and Modern Warfare 2 development studio Infinity Ward — involving the creative direction of the Call of Duty series — may have come to a head with yesterday's dismissal of IW's two studio heads.

The reasons for the dismissal of Jason West and Vince Zampella, the top two men at Infinity Ward remain murky a day after the news broke that there was a shake-up at the Activision-owned studio. The publisher, in a financial filing, only vaguely referred to "insubordination" and "breach of contract".

But in the past 24 hours the long-rumored problems between Activison and IW have come a little more clearly to light. A source familiar with the studio told Kotaku that Infinity Ward has long bristled at the notion of any studio other than IW making a Call of Duty game. The studio heads' renewed 2009 contract with Activision affirmed that only Infinity Ward would be allowed to make Call of Duty games set in the modern era, according to the source.

Infinity Ward's two most recent games were 2007's Call of Duty IV: Modern Warfare and 2009's Modern Warfare 2. In between, Activision-owned Treyarch developed Call of Duty: World At War and is expected to making 2010's Call of Duty, keeping with Activision's annual Call of Duty cycle. Infinity Ward, according to conversations Kotaku has had with employees at the studio in the past, is a one-game studio and one committed to two-year cycles. For IW, making a Call of Duty annually would not have been consistent with the studio's current structure. (Tensions between the studios flared up in public online close to the release of World at War.)

Kotaku has continued to hear from sources that Infinity Ward wanted to make either a new intellectual property or a game set in the future — the two projects might be one and the same — but that Activision resisted that.

Tensions between Infinity Ward and Activision had intensified in recent months to the point that IW would only deal with two employees from the publisher, according to Kotaku sources.

It's unclear if disagreements about creative direction are what finally led to West and Zampella's dismissal. But those disagreements appear to have contributed to the frailty of the relationship between publisher and studio that led to yesterday's breaking point.

Keep checking our round-up on news on Activision vs. Infinity Ward as news breaks.


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Looks like thats the reason why Jason West and Vince Zampelle left IW.

Activision Blizzard have 3 profitable franchise which is Guitar Heroes series, Call of Duty and WoW. Since the sales of Guitar Hero have slowed down recently and now, IW's studio lead has left IW and Treyarch's CoD never really felt as good as IW's CoD, Activision Blizzard is a one legged stool now.

EA, Take 2 and THQ seems to be in a better position than Activision Blizzard,until SC2 and D3 release.No wonder that they are aiming to launch SC2 on Q2 this year so that they get another cash cow if the other 2 dies completely.

It would be great if Kodick got fired because of all these and replace it with a game-loving-optimistic CEO.

Activision's New Plans For Call of Duty Include New Developer, New Genres

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Publisher Activision announced today new "strategic plans" for the Call of Duty franchise, announcing a new developer for the shooter franchise and confirming the departure of key Infinity Ward staffers.

Activision announced it will form a "dedicated [Call of Duty] business unit that will bring together its various new brand initiatives with focused, dedicated resources around the world." It plans to expand the Call of Duty brand "with the same focus seen in its Blizzard Entertainment business unit" placing a focus on "high-margin digital online content and further the brand as the leading action entertainment franchise in new geographies, new genres and with new digital business models."

As previously announced, Activision will release a new Call of Duty game from series co-developer Treyarch, responsible for Call of Duty 3 and Call of Duty: World At War, this fall. Developer Infinity Ward is still scheduled to release two downloadable map packs for Modern Warfare 2 this year.

In 2011, Activision will release another new game in the Call of Duty series from an unspecified developer. It also announced plans for another Call of Duty-based title from developer Sledgehammer Games, the recently formed studio lead by Dead Space creative leads Glen Schofield and Michael Condrey. The Sledgehammer-helmed title will "extend the franchise into the action-adventure genre."

The previously mentioned Call of Duty business unit will be led by Philip Earl, who currently runs Activision Publishing's Asia Pacific region. Activision Publishing's Steve Pearce, chief technology officer, and Steve Ackrich, head of production, will lead Infinity Ward on an interim basis. Former studios heads Jason West and Vince Zampella are no longer with Infinity Ward, officially.

"Activision doesn't comment on HR matters related to its studios," said reps when asked for comment about the departures and allegations of insubordination. The two former Infinity Ward heads are said to have butted heads with their publisher creatively over the direction of the Call of Duty franchise.

Activision Publishing also announced that the company is "in discussions with a select number of partners to bring the franchise to Asia, one of the fastest growing regions for online multiplayer games in the world."


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At the same time,new plans emerges.

CoD have become the next Halo.

Well,still a lot of CoDs for those who love MW2.


Added on March 4, 2010, 4:20 pmThere is more,

Infinity Ward Founders Suing Activision Over Unpaid Royalties

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Jason West and Vince Zampella, the men at the centre of this week's drama at Call of Duty developers Infinity Ward, have filed suit against Activision over claims they are owed "substantial royalty payments".

"Activision has refused to honor the terms of its agreements and is intentionally flouting the fundamental public policy of this State (California) that employers must pay their employees what they have rightfully earned," said the pair's attorney, Robert Schwartz, of law firm O'Melveny & Myers. "Instead of thanking, lauding, or just plain paying Jason and Vince for giving Activision the most successful entertainment product ever offered to the public, last month Activision hired lawyers to conduct a pretextual 'investigation' into unstated and unsubstantiated charges of 'insubordination' and 'breach of fiduciary duty,' which then became the grounds for their termination on Monday, March 1st."

West and Zampella are coming out swinging. "We were shocked by Activision's decision to terminate our contract," Jason West says. "We poured our heart and soul into that company, building not only a world class development studio, but assembling a team we've been proud to work with for nearly a decade. We think the work we've done speaks for itself."

"After all we have given to Activision, we shouldn't have to sue to get paid", Zampella adds.

Interestingly, in addition to seeking the unpaid royalties, the pair are also after "the contractual rights Activision granted to West and Zampella to control Modern Warfare-branded games". Whether that means they want to make "Modern Warfare" games without Activision, or would seek to have the brand buried if it's without their input, is unclear. We'll update when we hear more.


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Activision is an ass. IW have made an extremely profitable game and what they get in the end is getting fired by Activision.

Im actually glad that Jason and Vence left IW so that they can join Activision's competitors,just like what happen to Harmonix.

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post Mar 9 2010, 02:15 AM

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but...its a fun game to play.....

imho, the "flaws" are to battle piracy. maybe.

btw, it never lags. or hasnt yet so far lor...

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post Apr 3 2010, 09:27 PM

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okay, i'm lazy to read all the posts in this thread, freaking long.

Can someone summarize everything for me?

Cause I want to buy it soon for the multiplayer.

I've heard bad things about the game on Steam, no dedicated servers, no mod tools and stuff. What else?
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You have pretty much sum up all the bad things about that game.

Also,BFBC2 have released. MW2 is pretty much worthless to buy it now.
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Same old, same old.
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QUOTE(wilsonphua @ Apr 3 2010, 09:27 PM)
okay, i'm lazy to read all the posts in this thread, freaking long.

Can someone summarize everything for me?

Cause I want to buy it soon for the multiplayer.

I've heard bad things about the game on Steam, no dedicated servers, no mod tools and stuff. What else?
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I've read the bad things. about no dedicated server, hackers and what not. I told myself that i wouldn't buy but in the end i bought it. No regrets so far. Matchmaking isn't that bad... but yea... it's matchmaking..

But hey, i'm having fun. even better i'm having fun with my clan mates. laughing over voice talk.

But BFBC2 isnt bad either. I've yet to buy it. But soon... i might..

So far i have no regrets and having fun. It's up to you to buy it or not despite the bad things about it. smile.gif

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