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 bought ATI 4770, but PC couldn't start (solved!), problem solved!

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TScloudstrife07
post Nov 5 2009, 11:43 PM, updated 17y ago

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problem solved, it's the board and processor that died. and i dont know why suddenly it died. sweat.gif

and i bought a Athlon II x4 620 instead of buying the 9150e from my friend, and bought a new board (Asus M2N68-AM Plus):


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thanks to everyone that helped, especially goldfries and InFe_eD smile.gif

This post has been edited by cloudstrife07: Nov 8 2009, 01:36 AM
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post Nov 5 2009, 11:45 PM

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the HD4770 is good but that X4 no point la. you get 4 cores but drop in speed.

if you need to upgrade, aim for a higher clock speed X2 like those around RM 200 - 300 range.

edited : oh, new processors may not work that well. so you can get stuff like X2 5200+ used unit.
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post Nov 5 2009, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 5 2009, 11:45 PM)
the HD4770 is good but that X4 no point la. you get 4 cores but drop in speed.

if you need to upgrade, aim for a higher clock speed X2 like those around RM 200 - 300 range.

edited : oh, new processors may not work that well. so you can get stuff like X2 5200+ used unit.
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u mean like 7750+?

well because i got the quad core offer from a friend, some more at a bargain price, that's why i thought of getting it. cant seem to get other phenom at that price though, be it 8 series or 9 series hmm.gif
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post Nov 5 2009, 11:51 PM

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what games do you play?

going from 2ghz to 1.8ghz feels similar, in most cases it's a downgrade.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 5 2009, 11:51 PM)
what games do you play?

going from 2ghz to 1.8ghz feels similar, in most cases it's a downgrade.
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well it's been awhile since i played latest games because my X1650GT is a bit outdated. just thought of trying new games when i buy that 4770 sweat.gif
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post Nov 6 2009, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 5 2009, 11:51 PM)
what games do you play?

going from 2ghz to 1.8ghz feels similar, in most cases it's a downgrade.
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I don't know if you can directly compare the old Athlon X2 with a Phenom X4 on a clock per clock basis.
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post Nov 6 2009, 12:18 AM

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why not amd 620 rm355? with 4770 rm330.
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QUOTE(piumiu @ Nov 6 2009, 12:18 AM)
why not amd 620 rm355? with 4770 rm330.
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isn't 620 AM3?
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post Nov 6 2009, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(everling @ Nov 6 2009, 12:01 AM)
I don't know if you can directly compare the old Athlon X2 with a Phenom X4 on a clock per clock basis.
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you can't. that's why i say it MIGHT be a downgrade because I'm not certain at the time of the post. also forgotten that they're of different architecture tongue.gif

now the 2 concerns could be

a) whether TS would feel the difference
b) whether the mobo can support the X4 9150e (someone do a search on it? tongue.gif )
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 6 2009, 12:40 AM)
you can't. that's why i say it MIGHT be a downgrade because I'm not certain at the time of the post. also forgotten that they're of different architecture tongue.gif

now the 2 concerns could be

a) whether TS would feel the difference
b) whether the mobo can support the X4 9150e (someone do a search on it? tongue.gif )
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i don't know if i would feel any difference, since like you said, 2.0 to 1.8 maybe there's no difference, moreover if i'm not using multi-core apps.

as for supports or not, my board is AM2, and that proc is AM2+, theoretically that proc can run on my board right? since AM2+ is backward compatible with AM2 hmm.gif
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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Nov 6 2009, 01:10 AM)
i don't know if i would feel any difference, since like you said, 2.0 to 1.8 maybe there's no difference, moreover if i'm not using multi-core apps.

as for supports or not, my board is AM2, and that proc is AM2+, theoretically that proc can run on my board right? since AM2+ is backward compatible with AM2 hmm.gif
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try check here..

http://www.abit.com.tw/cpu-support-list/mb...rce550_kn9s.htm

it seems ur mobo cant support phenom cpu
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post Nov 6 2009, 02:02 AM

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best bet would be getting a x2 5200+ or x2 6000+ (maybe cant support )

your mobo cant support that phenom iinm

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post Nov 6 2009, 02:32 AM

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tat is a super slow quad core
unless u r doing rendering
u r downgrading rather than upgrade
although 150 is cheap
y dun u upgrade your ram
im sure the performance boost is more noticable

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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Nov 6 2009, 02:32 AM)
tat is a super slow quad core
unless u r doing rendering
u r downgrading rather than upgrade
although 150 is cheap
y dun u upgrade your ram
im sure the performance boost is more noticable
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I'd rather upgrade CPU or GPU.......2GB is plenty already.......I don't think you can even notice the difference in performance...... rclxub.gif
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post Nov 6 2009, 03:10 AM

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2gb ram is more then enough already, especially considering TS is NOT using on-board graphic.
I have 4gb of ram and even after disabling the pagefile completely, I still didn't utilized more then 2gig of ram usage.
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TS could simply stick to only the 4770 and leave things be for now.

Another idea is to buy a newer hard disk, maybe a 1 TB Black. That 160 GB is likely to be rather slow and a new hard disk may grant quite noticeable perf improvements.
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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Nov 6 2009, 02:02 AM)
best bet would be getting a x2 5200+ or x2 6000+ (maybe cant support )

your mobo cant support that phenom iinm
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i was thinking of those two procs too. but it seems getting a 2nd hand one from garage sale is harder than i thought.

QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Nov 6 2009, 02:32 AM)
tat is a super slow quad core
unless u r doing rendering
u r downgrading rather than upgrade
although 150 is cheap
y dun u upgrade your ram
im sure the performance boost is more noticable
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well i need to upgrade my GPU mainly because my older GPU died. and i was actually waiting for Radeon 5 series (the mid-to-low end ones) before upgrading my GC. sigh.

as for RAM, it can wait.

QUOTE(altimi @ Nov 6 2009, 02:43 AM)
I'd rather upgrade CPU or GPU.......2GB is plenty already.......I don't think you can even notice the difference in performance...... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(InFe_eD @ Nov 6 2009, 03:10 AM)
2gb ram is more then enough already, especially considering TS is NOT using on-board graphic.
I have 4gb of ram and even after disabling the pagefile completely, I still didn't utilized more then 2gig of ram usage.
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well i never had 4GB of RAMs before so i don't how much difference the performance would be.

QUOTE(everling @ Nov 6 2009, 03:39 AM)
TS could simply stick to only the 4770 and leave things be for now.

Another idea is to buy a newer hard disk, maybe a 1 TB Black. That 160 GB is likely to be rather slow and a new hard disk may grant quite noticeable perf improvements.
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hmm maybe you're right.

as for hard disk, i dont know much about it nowadays but does a 1TB Black really gives improvement? or better if i just RAID-0 the 160GB with another low capacity hard disk? cheaper solution yet vast improvement.

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post Nov 6 2009, 03:57 AM

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150 buck for a phenomx4 is quite a bargain. If you are comfortable with OC, I suggest that you get it from ur fren, of coz only if ur mobo can support it thru a bios update.

2.2ghz is easily attainable.

TS, why would you want to get the outdated k8 dualie again? Especially considering you're already using 1 urself

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post Nov 6 2009, 04:04 AM

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juz forget abt upgrade your proc if u not going to change your mobo
upgrade proc within same family not worth at all
i can c u watch alot of anime , y dun u upgrade to 40" LCD TV (juz kidding)
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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Nov 6 2009, 04:04 AM)
juz forget abt upgrade your proc if u not going to change your mobo
upgrade proc within same family not worth at all
i can c u watch alot of anime , y dun u upgrade to 40" LCD TV (juz kidding)
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Ummm, I'm not sure if you should call the k8 and k10 same family blink.gif

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