QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 5 2009, 12:51 AM)
HDMI Cable Quality?, Really make a diffrent?
HDMI Cable Quality?, Really make a diffrent?
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Nov 5 2009, 12:55 AM
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Nov 5 2009, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 5 2009, 12:51 AM) Data stream received will not be accurate. So video/audio will not be reproduced accurately.But typically in data transmission over network, if there are errors, the protocols allows for re-transmits, ie. send again to fix the error. But for high bandwidth streaming of audio/video, don't think there's time to re-transmit? So, unless you have robotic eyes and ears that can sense all these minute inaccuracy of video/audio reproduction, then maybe the splurge on expensive HDMI cables is only psychologically effective, ie. you think you are seeing a better picture or hearing a better sound, and so, therefore you "really" do. |
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Nov 5 2009, 01:18 AM
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Nov 5 2009, 02:42 AM
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QUOTE(cosmicmeadow @ Nov 5 2009, 01:09 AM) Data stream received will not be accurate. So video/audio will not be reproduced accurately. HDMI 1.3 only one way signalling rite... then how to re-transmit if the receiving end can tell the sending end that the data receive is attenuated But typically in data transmission over network, if there are errors, the protocols allows for re-transmits, ie. send again to fix the error. But for high bandwidth streaming of audio/video, don't think there's time to re-transmit? |
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Nov 5 2009, 04:45 AM
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Nov 5 2009, 05:05 AM
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Nov 5 2009, 09:00 AM
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this topic.... very nice debating indeed....
my fren, a sony technician and me did confirm there is a change, one HDMI seem to display clearer PQ than the other, and also for AQ the ambience is different As for me i believe there is a difference, but at the end of the day... The Decision is Yours |
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Nov 5 2009, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Nov 5 2009, 09:00 AM) this topic.... very nice debating indeed.... moomoos,my fren, a sony technician and me did confirm there is a change, one HDMI seem to display clearer PQ than the other, and also for AQ the ambience is different As for me i believe there is a difference, but at the end of the day... The Decision is Yours Was there less noise in the images? Added on November 5, 2009, 9:06 am QUOTE(cosmicmeadow @ Nov 5 2009, 01:09 AM) Data stream received will not be accurate. So video/audio will not be reproduced accurately. Isn't there enuf redundacy in the transmission that can take care of this? I was under the impression that there were checks and balances on the HDMI transmission on the receiving side. But of course I cold be wrong.But typically in data transmission over network, if there are errors, the protocols allows for re-transmits, ie. send again to fix the error. But for high bandwidth streaming of audio/video, don't think there's time to re-transmit? So, unless you have robotic eyes and ears that can sense all these minute inaccuracy of video/audio reproduction, then maybe the splurge on expensive HDMI cables is only psychologically effective, ie. you think you are seeing a better picture or hearing a better sound, and so, therefore you "really" do. This post has been edited by anfieldude: Nov 5 2009, 09:06 AM |
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Nov 5 2009, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 5 2009, 09:03 AM) moomoos, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transition_Mi...ntial_SignalingWas there less noise in the images? Added on November 5, 2009, 9:06 am Isn't there enuf redundacy in the transmission that can take care of this? I was under the impression that there were checks and balances on the HDMI transmission on the receiving side. But of course I cold be wrong. TMDS is use by HDMI for error correction. |
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Nov 5 2009, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 5 2009, 09:03 AM) bro anfield, dont know whether its noise or notone displayed blurrer pictures, and certain brightly lit spots appeared smeared (bigger...of cos not measurable la have to use the pioneer BD to calibrate the Detail level up ( there's improvement ) but cant better the other cable i also did freeze frame on facial, and did swapping few times, the wreckles, facial pores ( dont know wat you call it.. mind my inglish..hehe) seems clearer. one very good example is on the spiderman 3, when the SandMan finally gather back its figure, notice the "details" grains of sand flowing/streaming along, and when he picks up the pendant on 1st attempt, notice the expression (details on eye) you really dont have to pause/freeze to just let it play and replay happy experimenting !!! This post has been edited by moomoos: Nov 5 2009, 10:00 AM |
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Nov 5 2009, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Nov 4 2009, 11:18 PM) y is it when you use a cardas interconnect, you get better bass, What type of interconnect are you referring to above? HDMI cable, optical cable or the analogue RCA cable?an audio quest, you get better treble maybe van del hul, a more soothing sound what about the transparency, soundstage, depth, etc?? Added on November 5, 2009, 10:02 am QUOTE(moomoos @ Nov 4 2009, 11:22 PM) This calls for a blind test! This post has been edited by jchong: Nov 5 2009, 10:02 AM |
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Nov 5 2009, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Nov 5 2009, 09:32 AM) bro anfield, dont know whether its noise or not What were the two HDMI cables used in this comparison?one displayed blurrer pictures, and certain brightly lit spots appeared smeared (bigger...of cos not measurable la have to use the pioneer BD to calibrate the Detail level up ( there's improvement ) but cant better the other cable i also did freeze frame on facial, and did swapping few times, the wreckles, facial pores ( dont know wat you call it.. mind my inglish..hehe) seems clearer. one very good example is on the spiderman 3, when the SandMan finally gather back its figure, notice the "details" grains of sand flowing/streaming along, and when he picks up the pendant on 1st attempt, notice the expression (details on eye) you really dont have to pause/freeze to just let it play and replay happy experimenting !!! |
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Nov 5 2009, 10:12 AM
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Nov 5 2009, 10:19 AM
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where's the monster cable ?
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