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paul5263
post Nov 19 2013, 10:55 AM

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1. Brand : Any as long as reliable
2. Budget : <70k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Preferably new
4. Specs : Doesn't matter
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : NA
7. Type : Seden
8. Remarks : Consider Proton Preve Exec/Premium (what's the difference) vs Persona, what's all the difference (from FC, Maintenance). Open to all recommendations as well.
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post Nov 19 2013, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Megaboost @ Nov 18 2013, 02:21 PM)
Hi All,
I am 189cm tall on average size.
Fresh grad with income less than 3.5k
If you dont mind.
Can you suggest me a car that can fit me in with 10k Dp
thank you
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50k car with 10dp = RM699/month which I think is manageable and not too burden for you.

2013 Mitsubishi Attrage - i've my concern about the power output of this car for its body, it has the bodysize similar to B-segment cars but with just a 1200cc engine so that's either great engineering work or they just slotted an underpowered engine because its cheaper to produce....i dunno...i've yet to test drive this car to really find out for myself. Though as a package I think its a good buy if you must go for Japanese brand with your budget.

2013 Mitsubishi Mirage - uses the same engine as the Attrage, I suppose its easier and cheaper to build a common engine than have another but then performance might be an issue on the Attrage....but on the Mirage (since it has been around abit longer) is a good car light steering but decent feedback, decent road holding and spritely performance from the 1200cc engine. Talked with some owners of this car their feedback is the car is decent enough for the asking price, nothing much to complain. Long term maintenance and resale value is still unknown but looks positive.

If you're okay with Proton I think that kinda budget can get a really good spec Persona smile.gif

QUOTE(faizal87 @ Nov 18 2013, 04:29 PM)
thanks for explanation bro, fyi,im never bought  and never have a car before.just got motorcycle ,for this reason i will skip his offer.. thanks again,much appreaciated.. thumbup.gif
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you're welcomed.

QUOTE(codefuturama @ Nov 18 2013, 08:17 PM)
Thanks for the suggestion bro. Think the 208 is out of consideration now, though I liked the design. Just one random question to ask, is it more profitable buying a used car or better to buy a new one?
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well depends on a few factors.
some people more suitable for used car than others.

QUOTE(thinakarant @ Nov 18 2013, 11:30 PM)
Thank you for your valuable insight. notworthy.gif Really appreciate your expertise. I like the Skoda facelifted version with the 2.0 FSI engine but the sedan version. Unfortunately none available at the moment. Might take a look just to be sure I don't miss a good deal.

The Ford looks promising. Will definitely check it out too.
Thanks!  nod.gif
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Look around I'm sure someone would sell their 2008 FSI soon enough.
I've seen 2007 FSI on sale past few months.
Though Skoda seems like a dying breed here even with all the vibe VW is making.
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post Nov 19 2013, 02:38 PM

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plan to buy ford fiesta. maybank offer me 2.47 interest rate for 9 years. is it high?
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QUOTE(paul5263 @ Nov 19 2013, 10:55 AM)
1. Brand : Any as long as reliable
2. Budget : <70k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Preferably new
4. Specs : Doesn't matter
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI :  NA
7. Type : Seden
8. Remarks : Consider Proton Preve Exec/Premium (what's the difference) vs Persona, what's all the difference (from FC, Maintenance). Open to all recommendations as well.
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Proton ah?
Proton Fanbois <----- this way!

Seriously, you've gotta see the specs for yourself and decide.
There are a lot of difference specs with shitty accessories making you think its worth more but its not.

Only two really matter.

1. Preve IAFM + CVT (NA)
2. Preve CFE + CVT (Turbo)

Any CFE spec should be fine.

QUOTE(death_nite @ Nov 19 2013, 02:38 PM)
plan to buy ford fiesta. maybank offer me 2.47 interest rate for 9 years. is it high?
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below average.
the average for new car is 2.5%
do check out RHB i think i hear 2.40% now.

This post has been edited by zenix: Nov 22 2013, 02:28 AM
veron208
post Nov 19 2013, 11:16 PM

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1. Brand : Mazda 6
2. Budget : <100k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : 2.0 or 2.5
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : FI
7. Type : Sedan
8. Remarks : Considering FL model year 2010 and above. Any comment or problem with this car model ?
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Bro zenix, I understand you are not a big fan of korean car, but my budget is only max RM45000 so I am currently considering new Myvi 1.3SE and Hyundai i10 1.25 colourz, which after rebate their price is almost the same, may I know your view on this?
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QUOTE(veron208 @ Nov 19 2013, 11:16 PM)
1. Brand : Mazda 6
2. Budget : <100k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : 2.0 or 2.5
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI :  FI
7. Type : Sedan
8. Remarks : Considering FL model year 2010 and above. Any comment or problem with this car model ?
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2011 Mazda 6 - you can probably look for this 2000cc one they're priced around there even if it is only 2 years old (how unfortunate for the new car buyer) the 2500cc versions you need to fork out anywhere between 15k-25k more. Worthwhile since the new car price is significant, however I do hear some nightmare cases for this car so do remember to test drive and be fully confident in the car before signing anything.

2006 Toyota Mark X - I'd recommend this although it is older being a 2006 model but you can buy it as new because it is imported and unregistered. You get the famous Toyota reliability and prestige of an imported car without heavy maintenance bills. It is also a very powerful car, highway speeds of 160kmh @ 2500rpm brows.gif

QUOTE(freedom8901 @ Nov 20 2013, 04:19 PM)
Bro zenix, I understand you are not a big fan of korean car, but my budget is only max RM45000 so I am currently considering new Myvi 1.3SE and Hyundai i10 1.25 colourz, which after rebate their price is almost the same, may I know your view on this?
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Haih!

This is why I really hoped Honda bring in the Brio and Brio Amaze to Malaysia to show them how to do A-segment cars.



2013 Brio Amaze Sedan V-spec THB521k @ RM52k
2013 Brio Hatch Limited Edition Spec THB533k @ RM53k
* Lowest spec with automatic transmission is RM45k

Though because of our automotive policies don't expect that kinda price so then it doesn't make sense for Honda to bring it here so because it would be priced to closely to the City and Jazz.

What Australia thinks of the Bio?

Key sub-B segment competitors include the Suzuki Alto from $11,790, Holden Barina Spark from $12,490 and Volkswagen’s new Up, which kicks off from $13,990 for the three-door against rival five-door configurations, but introduces new levels of standard safety technology such as low-speed emergency braking for a class-leading five-star ANCAP crash-test rating.

Launched in early 2011, the Brio is 3610mm long, 1680mm wide and 1485mm tall, sits on a 2345mm wheelbase, and is built in India and Thailand, with Indonesia joining in from next year.

If the Brio does come to Australia, it will likely arrive from Thailand, where most local Hondas are sourced, or Indonesia.


It is okay....Malaysia's Melaka plant is a mothball making stuff only for local consumption, not a global player coz we already have Proton dry.gif

This post has been edited by zenix: Nov 22 2013, 02:30 AM
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post Nov 20 2013, 11:36 PM

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1. Brand : -
2. Budget : 80k+
3. New/Used/Unreg : New
4. Specs : -
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : -
7. Type : -
8. Remarks : I thinking to get Mitsubishi Attrage SE or Proton Preve CFE. I will be driving to works and as family cars also. Build quality & technology wise, i prefer Attrage. But in terms of power, i prefer Preve.

Can anyone help me so that i can make my decision?
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post Nov 21 2013, 12:02 AM

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[quote=zenix,Nov 20 2013, 05:35 PM]
2011 Mazda 6 - you can probably look for this 2000cc one they're priced around there even if it is only 2 years old (how unfortunate for the new car buyer) the 2500cc versions you need to fork out anywhere between 15k-25k more. Worthwhile since the new car price is significant, however I do hear some nightmare cases for this car so do remember to test drive and be fully confident in the car before signing anything.

2006 Toyota Mark X - I'd recommend this although it is older being a 2006 model but you can buy it as new because it is imported and unregistered. You get the famous Toyota reliability and prestige of an imported car without heavy maintenance bills. It is also a very powerful car, highway speeds of 160kmh @ 2500rpm brows.gif
Haih!


Thanks for your reply bro .... I am not interested with Mark X design smile.gif

However, for the M6 2011 I found the posting date to be scary. Seems like used M6 harder to sell based on the post date.

Car MakeMazda
Car ModelMazda6
Car Variant2.0 (A)
Year Manufactured2011
MileageNot specificed
TransmissionAutomatic
Engine Capacity2.0L
Color
Color TypeNot specified
ConditionUsed
Body TypeSedan
LocationKuala Lumpur
Time Posted 29-Mar-2013
Last Updated 21-Oct-2013

Any inputs ?
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post Nov 21 2013, 09:02 AM

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2. Budget : I can afford DP of rm12000, with commitment of rm550-600/month
3. New/Used/Unreg :
4. Specs : -
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : -
7. Type : -
8. Remarks : Good FC, good pocket for maintenance, reliable. Is second hand vios ok? something like that?

http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Vios+1+5+A+FULL...OP-24326006.htm

I owned a kelisa. I am actually reluctant to buy a car because life without commitment really gives a lot of freedom. but It's has been making noise here and there.

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post Nov 21 2013, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(Devilhpk @ Nov 20 2013, 11:36 PM)
1. Brand : -
2. Budget : 80k+
3. New/Used/Unreg : New
4. Specs : -
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI :  -
7. Type : -
8. Remarks : I thinking to get Mitsubishi Attrage SE or Proton Preve CFE. I will be driving to works and as family cars also. Build quality & technology wise, i prefer Attrage. But in terms of power, i prefer Preve.
Can anyone help me so that i can make my decision?
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If you have until 80k ++

You can consider...
Honda City 85k ++
Honda Jazz 74k ++
Nissan Almera 71k ++

Tech and accessories wise would be either one of the Honda's.

QUOTE(veron208 @ Nov 21 2013, 12:02 AM)
Thanks for your reply bro .... I am not interested with Mark X design smile.gif

However, for the M6 2011 I found the posting date to be scary. Seems like used M6 harder to sell based on the post date.

Car MakeMazda
Car ModelMazda6
Car Variant2.0 (A)
Year Manufactured2011
MileageNot specificed
TransmissionAutomatic
Engine Capacity2.0L
Color
Color TypeNot specified
ConditionUsed
Body TypeSedan
LocationKuala Lumpur
Time Posted 29-Mar-2013
Last Updated 21-Oct-2013
Any inputs ?
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Mazda's are one of the colder cars on the market, there is no doubt about it.
The typical Malaysian usually buy Toyota and Honda because of the brand image, reliability, resale value, and abundance of 3S/SC unfortunately for some of the brands being "re-launched" in Malaysia like Mazda the amount of 3S/SC is one of the things that keeps customers away especially those with the mentality "drive so far for service, think i very free ah?".

Mazda 6 is an excellent car in terms of design and performance, however ownership issues such as parts cost and maintenance fees also ease of maintenance like finding 3S/SC nearby might be difficult.

2010 Honda Accord 2.4 - why not consider one of the more establish players in D-segment like an Accord, I know its very common and boring but of course the plus side is ease of maintenance, cheaper parts, reliability and better resale value. This particular car has mostly taken the brunt of the depreciation so from here on its going to depreciate at a slower rate.

This post has been edited by zenix: Nov 22 2013, 02:33 AM
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hello bro zenix
i am looking to buy a used conti car with a budget arouind 20k
browse through mudah and found a few i liked
what say you about the quality and maiantenance as well as fuel efficiency for these models?

Volvo S80 year 2000
Mercedes Benz C180 year 94-97
Peugeot 407 Year 2000

Which u think is the best in, i am particularly worried about the cost of maintenance and fuel efficiency.
Thanks in advance, any further suggestion would be much appreciated
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post Nov 21 2013, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 20 2013, 05:35 PM)

This is why I really hoped Honda bring in the Brio and Brio Amaze to Malaysia to show them how to do A-segment cars.



2013 Brio Amaze Sedan V-spec THB521k @ RM52k
2013 Brio Hatch Limited Edition Spec THB533k @ RM53k
* Lowest spec with automatic transmission is RM45k

Though because of our automotive policies don't expect that kinda price so then it doesn't make sense for Honda to bring it here so because it would be priced to closely to the City and Jazz.

What Australia thinks of the Bio?

Key sub-B segment competitors include the Suzuki Alto from $11,790, Holden Barina Spark from $12,490 and Volkswagen’s new Up, which kicks off from $13,990 for the three-door against rival five-door configurations, but introduces new levels of standard safety technology such as low-speed emergency braking for a class-leading five-star ANCAP crash-test rating.

Launched in early 2011, the Brio is 3610mm long, 1680mm wide and 1485mm tall, sits on a 2345mm wheelbase, and is built in India and Thailand, with Indonesia joining in from next year.

If the Brio does come to Australia, it will likely arrive from Thailand, where most local Hondas are sourced, or Indonesia.


It is okay....Malaysia's Melaka plant is a mothball making stuff only for local consumption, not a global player coz we already have Proton dry.gif
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It would be selling like hotcakes if we can get a Japanese car with less than 50k, such a waste doh.gif

How should I choose if it is between Myvi and i10?

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QUOTE(H.K. Lee @ Nov 21 2013, 09:02 AM)
1. Brand : -
2. Budget : I can afford DP of rm12000, with commitment of rm550-600/month
3. New/Used/Unreg :
4. Specs : -
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : -
7. Type : -
8. Remarks : Good FC, good pocket for maintenance, reliable. Is second hand vios ok? something like that?
http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Vios+1+5+A+FULL...OP-24326006.htm
I owned a kelisa. I am actually reluctant to buy a car because life without commitment really gives a lot of freedom. but It's has been making noise here and there.
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A few faults I can pick-up from the advert:
1. Don't be fooled that isn't a real TRD although exterior wise the previous owner try to do some make-up.
2. No mention of the original spec, so i'm guessing it is a J-spec (lowest spec with automatic) because if it was anything else they would surely be confident enough to write it down. J-spec = rear drum brakes. It says auto but in the picture it looks like a manual gear.
3. I dunno about the rest of the bodykit but the front bumper isn't original TRD, looks like a replica front bumper with the additional air-inlet, the fit and finish is poor -- look at the gap between the bonnet and fenders and the bumper. Original bumpers are made from ABS material, the best non-factory bumpers are made from PP, most lousy is Fibre (easy to break, quality poor, etc) then got PU (stronger than Fibre but fit & finish issues as it warps abit from the mold if not made properly), then the best out of the cheap stuff is FRP (but of course it doesn't come close to the quality, durability and finish of either ABS/PP (FRP is fibre reinforced polymer -- something like Fibre+PU). So because it is not factory spec it ain't going to last if you even get in minor accident and definitely won't help to save your life in bigger ones because its not the same spec as original so there goes the star ratings)
4. The lower part of the bumper got scratched already its either parking accident or the suspension too soft/hard, although it is mentioned the absorber is changed but the springs aren't mentioned so i assume it is stock. If people are serious about upgrading their ride & handling both shocks and springs must be replace and tuned together...if not it is just shitty.
5. So outside looks ganas like sports car....inside? I dunno about you but feels like a Kancil/Alza.....*puke* so basic and boring.

So anyway 12k DP with 600/monthy would be about 55k lets see what we can buy??

2009 Honda City E-spec - this is about the lowest you can possibly find for this car, eventhough it is the lesser spec of the two variants it has a few things going for it. Firstly, you get a much more spacious cabin and luggage space. Secondly, its ANCAP 5 star rated car (Vios not sold in Australia so it is untested so we don't know how bad/good it is). Thirdly, being Honda it is just as reliable and cheap to maintain as a Vios but the Vios is of course going to be cheaper because from 2003-2013 model they all use the same parts.

2009 Nissan Latio - this one is the sexier hatchback with the impul bodykit, as you can see original bodykit fit and finish is very good the gaps aren't noticeable in pictures. Although many would say just go for the 1800cc version but that's a different case because the hatch only comes with 1600cc while the sedan has a choice of 1600/1800cc engines -- don't worry about the power issue there is more than enough from that 1600cc lump. It has an even more spacious interior than the City because it is one step up being a C-segment car, though luggage space compromised abit because it is a hatch. Maintenance for this car? Very cheap coz it uses low tech engine/gearbox.

Either one of the above would last you a good 15 years eventhough they're used (if they don't come with problems already, assuming no issues when buying) as the City and Latio are built with quite a high quality standard. I wanted to intro you a Ford Focus around this price range too and it is an even better car, though I think you might want to keep things simple and cheap so best go for either one of the above.

Vios is a decent choice but don't get fooled into something its not as alot of sellers claim this spec that spec but actually is kosong doh.gif

QUOTE(JohnPaleo @ Nov 21 2013, 03:52 PM)
hello bro zenix
i am looking to buy a used conti car with a budget arouind 20k
browse through mudah and found a few i liked
what say you about the quality and maiantenance as well as fuel efficiency for these models?

Volvo S80 year 2000
Mercedes Benz C180 year 94-97
Peugeot 407 Year 2000

Which u think is the best in, i am particularly worried about the cost of maintenance and fuel efficiency.
Thanks in advance, any further suggestion would be much appreciated
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Firstly, you won't be able to get loan for anything older than 2003 car.

I wanted to recommend you my favorite Skoda/Saab but recently i've notice unless you go for original parts from the distributor or source your own chopped parts or oem from china, it is very hard to get parts for these brands nowadays.

Skoda Octavia would be a good choice if you want it to act like an Audi A4 but is of course much cheaper and younger (around 2005-2008), you can treat it like an A4 with new parts and refurb it abit for that quality feel. That route would be good if you want a cheap car to start but don't mind using original parts (which can be quite expensive) but it is younger so you can actually do a short loan to spread your commitment.

Volvo S40/S80 are great cars. S40 more compact and sporty while S80 bigger and more stately. However, they're both turbo cars and I somehow feel that generation of Volvo's are abit lost. They shared quite abit of parts with Ford so they don't feel as premium because certain models use the same signal stalks/aircon as a Ford Focus. The turbo isn't much to shout about but maintenance can be a bummer, it is more expensive than the Peugeot because the parts are mostly imported -- though you can source for oem parts from china/taiwan which cost less.

Peugeot 407 is a hit/miss. I don't really recommend this one as it is too old and now since the parts are all cornered by Naza you can't get cheap ones anymore.

Merc is a good choice. Bullet proof engine, though gearbox, and abundant parts around at cheap price. All the merc's of that generation were great the 190E, 230E, C200, etc.

QUOTE(freedom8901 @ Nov 21 2013, 04:37 PM)
It would be selling like hotcakes if we can get a Japanese car with less than 50k, such a waste doh.gif
How should I choose if it is between Myvi and i10?
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I think for the sake of reliability, resale value and headache free maintenance its best to go with the Myvi, eventhough its sort of abit expensive for what it offers. Though, if you aren't in a hurry then wait until January comes around I think there will be one or two more new car launches and also some special discount to entice buyers to buy a new car for CNY.

I do think the Mitsubishi Attrage/Mirage or Nissan Almera would be good choices too but they seem abit out of your budget, unless you're willing to pay more on the monthly or more in the deposit.
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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 22 2013, 02:26 AM)

I think for the sake of reliability, resale value and headache free maintenance its best to go with the Myvi, eventhough its sort of abit expensive for what it offers. Though, if you aren't in a hurry then wait until January comes around I think there will be one or two more new car launches and also some special discount to entice buyers to buy a new car for CNY.

I do think the Mitsubishi Attrage/Mirage or Nissan Almera would be good choices too but they seem abit out of your budget, unless you're willing to pay more on the monthly or more in the deposit.
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I too prefer japanese more than korean/local, and I will grab the Mirage if there is any rebate that cut its price to below RM50k drool.gif

i understand that in terms of resale value and maintenance Myvi is the winner, but reliability wise as well?
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QUOTE(freedom8901 @ Nov 22 2013, 09:19 AM)
I too prefer japanese more than korean/local, and I will grab the Mirage if there is any rebate that cut its price to below RM50k drool.gif

i understand that in terms of resale value and maintenance Myvi is the winner, but reliability wise as well?
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koreans and locals are much the same, their technology is derived from japanese.
so lets say reliability is about equal when they come out from the factory.
however, myvi being a staple here for a long time there are many perodua 3s/sc you can go to for service and all cherry tree workshops can handle this car, plus abundance of parts at different quality level (original, oem, fake, etc) -- which cannot be said for Hyundai cars.

overall, i10 is a decent car though you'll experience a few hiccups here and there.

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 22 2013, 12:03 PM)
koreans and locals are much the same, their technology is derived from japanese.
so lets say reliability is about equal when they come out from the factory.
however, myvi being a staple here for a long time there are many perodua 3s/sc you can go to for service and all cherry tree workshops can handle this car, plus abundance of parts at different quality level (original, oem, fake, etc) -- which cannot be said for Hyundai cars.

overall, i10 is a decent car though you'll experience a few hiccups here and there.
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Thank you so much bro, I always thought that koreans is superior if compared to locals, and the current promotion for i10 which is about 10k discount and 5 years warranty is a big temptation. But I think I will just have to stick with Myvi rclxub.gif



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QUOTE(freedom8901 @ Nov 22 2013, 12:29 PM)
Thank you so much bro, I always thought that koreans is superior if compared to locals, and the current promotion for i10 which is about 10k discount and 5 years warranty is a big temptation. But I think I will just have to stick with Myvi rclxub.gif
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I think when you compare with cars like Cerato 2013, Sonata 2013 and Optima 2013....yes they're very much superior to local cars, but at this range they're more or less equal. Since manufacturers don't pay much attention and R&D for compact cars in this price range -- cheap and relatively safe is the name of the game.

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just a question, is there any banks other than bank islam that provide full loan?
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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Nov 22 2013, 11:34 PM)
just a question, is there any banks other than bank islam that provide full loan?
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actually many do.
depending on how your SA does the deal.

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